Tales From The Neutral Zone: “La Morte de la Guerre” A Star Trek Fan Production

The Death of The War: A Star Trek Fan File Production
When the USS Excalibur responds to a distress call, the crew finds themselves a race to stop the outbreak of War with the Romulans.
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[@mythdusterds]

The lighting on set was great.

[@ericmadsen7470]

This is good. You guys did a great job on this episode on Tales from the Neutral Zone. Tell me there is more to come? I can wait.

[@tombombadill22]

Awesome!!!! I feel like I'm back in 1966 again 😊😊😊

[@joshuairwin2016]

Thank you! Definitely what we were going for.

[@donaldkroth2579]

Nice job! Impressive, most impressive. Stellar acting people and to the Special Effects crew marvelous work. 🖖

[@Raggedymannn]

Rick Cole: I knew there's a Fan Film coming out Saturday, this one I'd heard of and forgot when it would release, at any rate it's a great Friday morning surprise, thank you all, great job in every way, super story and acting by all, loved the Captain and #1, they are super actors, thank you all for your time participating with this super Fan Film

[@DominicParry1]

Great job to all involved!!!

[@RyanHannaProductions]

Ahh the turbolift changed directions! Nice touch

[@drouindf]

One of the best ever

[@mythdusterds]

The story was so much better than I expected based on being on set. I could not understand the story with the Romulan’s from just being on set or context of what was going on set of the bridge from seeing the set. But as a whole this was a great story.

[@robertmuntz799]

What a great episode. Better all the time.

[@jonathanlane1377]

Lots of hard work and dedication...and it shows!

[@mythdusterds]

The visuals look fantastic

[@nickpond9337]

Nice Nod to Archer , and Good Switch around with the Crew Very Good Story Thank You ;

[@meowza3k]

wow! excellent job.

[@walkerdark6012]

Great job guys! Keep them coming!

[@KevinScott76]

Thank you😇 This is the best Star Trek show I have seen since I was watching after school in the late 1970s. It felt like I was watching it again for real😍

[@DB-xj3ze]

Outstanding!💯❤️

[@neiljvoice1603]

Really enjoyed this one. One of the best ive seen.

[@davidwhitney7473]

GREAT

[@chrisstenger3719]

very cool !!!! love the vibe :) thanks !

[@michaelaldredge-greenwell1692]

Such a wonderful, thoughtful, thought provoking, inspiring, powerful, beautiful episode of trust, faith, compassion, kindness, courage, nobility, honor, & one of friendship & hope. I’m literally crying here!! This has touched my heart. Thank you all for once again showing us we all don’t have to be enemies, & for showing us Gene Roddenberry’s vision of peace & hope!! This is why I love your channel’s wonderful content. Please…more of these fantastic episodes!! (Wiping my eyes…)

[@joshuairwin2016]

Thank you! I really appreciate that! Probably the best compliment you could give us!

[@michaellochmueller1100]

My wife and I have worked on small productions and what you have produced is on par with substantial budget productions ! Great Work!!

[@Cmcdaniel4879]

This is very good I enjoyed this very much. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing many more of these.

[@mythdusterds]

I love the final scene in the Captains quarters. I feel like that scene was one that made the most sense even on set and holds up emotionally.

[@robertw31968]

Wow! This was a great episode. I swear y'all are getting better and better. In my opinion this is better than any official Trek being put out.

[@TheBlindDyslexic]

Sweet. What I think would be cool is, the next episode has The Excalibur finding a file that refers to one of the Original 7 (*coff*3rd or 4th*coff*) Doctors of Doctor Who. Granted it's Discretionary only. But still think it would be a cool little tidbit.

[@markc7440]

I can see either of them saying "Oh dear, I don't think I am supposed to be here." But then still getting involved.

[@katmckool]

Great work!

[@jackieanderson9408]

This was sweet.

[@brightandshiny6670]

Fantastic job thanks for making this

[@JBearwebb]

This is simply good stuff! All the way around, the special effects, the acting, the characters. Better than most of the most recent shows on Paramount. I enjoy that it’s short, only 20 minutes and more can be built of each episode

[@AboveAvgMan]

Paramount is like a corporate chain restaurant.

[@veedubya4636]

Very well done and a great story!

[@StarFleet_Tech1701]

A true Star Trek episode. Awesomeness!

[@anthonylowder6687]

Starfleet could sure use more officers like her....she took a gamble and won, for both sides.

[@harleydominga]

What if she lost that gamble..... then millions could have died. A typical Star Trek conundrum.

[@ShrekWallBee]

maybe in some alt trekerverse that reality played out

[@mizzmaddieUTube]

Great job everybody!!!

[@michaelrussom6463]

I had no idea this was coming out. The effects, sets and costumes are amazing. The captain is actually stunning. First officer is a bit odd, but no big deal. That aside, I would still recommend this new show. Thanks and well done...I felt a need to tweak my comment. I don't know much about casting these fan productions.

[@levelemup]

Its a fanfilm. Sometime "casting" is more an "coincidence"

[@joshuairwin2016]

Caitlyn is a good friend of mine. And actually, The First Officer is the antagonist of the film. Having her be off-putting a bit was what I wanted.

[@markc7440]

I like how this First Officer keeps the Captain grounded. Plus she is kind of cute.

[@HollywoodpyrotechnicsInc]

Love it! A great story, well directed and acted. Keep it up!

[@jamesavalos4555]

That was excellent !!!

[@andrewmilner3480]

The whole thing- excellent 👍👍

[@davelee7296]

MORE MORE MORE. Least this looks like StarTrek thank you.

[@gregorytremaine1164]

Great Job! Good episode. I've been looking forward to this. And to the next one.....

[@copy801]

Great job as always

[@georgepapadimas3523]

Very enjoyable . thank you

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly fabulously wonderfully well done spectacular job indeed!.

[@thomasdye9869]

Nicely done.

[@RogueSarge]

This was damn good! I really enjoyed it!

[@dhh1979]

One of the best episodes, awesome job everyone!!!

[@MH5XXXX]

GREAT JOB ON THE VIDEO.

[@hansumjoe]

the black guy was Masada on the Constellation in the prequel to the doomsday machine, which was awesome!

[@joshuairwin2016]

Louis is a fantastic Actor! It's always a no brainer to have him in a film.

[@toddkurzbard]

A (nearly) all-Female bridge crew? SIGN ME UP!!!!!! "No matter how you started, you deserve to command that ship" I couldn't agree more.

[@loreleyproductions6204]

A new movie nice. We want to see more.

[@joshuairwin2016]

More is coming!

[@SkyStarNova]

Awesome! One of my favorite fan films. Canon.

[@takefive1302]

Fan Trek is the only Trek now

[@markc7440]

Sensors will be useless. Well go to the shuttle bay and look out of the hanger doors! Hey, the series never seemed to think about that so I don't blame you guys. Well produced, well acted, well written (not overly complex), and the effects were great. The Excalibur looks superb.

[@donaldkroth2579]

I also wanted to add this. I like the going to warp effect in this and some other fan films out there that did this. I really wish that they had done it on the remastered original Star Trek series. It looks a lot better in the flow of things.🙂🖖

[@epaulsmith7850]

Fabfrigentastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@joshuairwin2016]

Greatly appreciated!

[@gorymarty56]

This was good , please tell me you are making more.

[@joshuairwin2016]

We are making more. 🙂

[@davidponseigo8811]

I just love a beautiful woman in uniform ! Great episode also. I just love the first officers expressions in every episode.

[@Thunderation710]

Very nice ! Is this the doomed USS Excalibur ? Sad.

[@joshuairwin2016]

Doomed? Not at all. This is after her resurrection.

[@Thunderation710]

@@joshuairwin2016 Oh good. Thanks very much !

[@levelemup]

I like the Screenplay very much. The DP is nice but the editing give me some troubles about the direction whats happend. I think the acting from the Number One is a little but too much. I have problems with original music but i can understand why creators use it. The VFX are realy great. I realy like this movie very much.

[@joshuairwin2016]

Thank you to our friends from Germany for supporting us! We appreciate you!

[@levelemup]

@@joshuairwin2016 Everytime!!!

[@jlomesou]

Is war the only theme fan films of Star Trek can be about?

[@joshuairwin2016]

This film is about peace.

[@AboveAvgMan]

Go away

[@billtaylor2405]

I see Jussie Smollett finally found work.

[@pepperVenge]

😆

[@michaelreed4744]

Hello. Have you thought about submitting this idea to the CBS Network?

[@pepperVenge]

CBS isn't interested in making good Trek.

[@joshuairwin2016]

They don't really take these kind of submissions, and have a lot of shows planned. But, look at it this way, CBS/Paramount give us the grace to make these fan films, when they don't have to. So in a way, you do have them to thank for giving you something that you like. 🙂

[@martinbaxter2616]

🥹👏👏👏👏🤌

[@der_admiral]

Do you have permission from Avalon Fan Films to copy their films? Or from the other fan films? You don't mention them here in the info box or anywhere else? In the credits you can still see in which universe the whole thing is set.

[@hkh_vfx]

This was a joint Neutral Zone Studios/Avalon Universe project.

[@joshuairwin2016]

We collaborated, all good!! In fact since this is an anthology film belonging to "Tales From The Neutral Zone" we need permission to run their film on our channel haha. Which we have.

[@kadindarklord]

Not that the XO wasn't wholly wrong, but calling out your Captain's First name when on duty? I'm reminded of that TNG scene between Data and Worf during that Pirate episode. There's a time and a place to be raising concerns. Otherwise, good episode.

[@joshuairwin2016]

Chakotay did it with Janeway on a few occasions when things were getting out of hand.

[@kadindarklord]

@@joshuairwin2016 Again, time and a place. And that's NOT on the Bridge.

[@joshuairwin2016]

@@kadindarklord That's your Opinion. Chakotay did it on the Bridge in several Voyager Episodes.

[@markc7440]

It is established military procedure but then we should remember the times that Spock called Kirk "Jim" at times when he wanted to convey his message in a more personal and / or grounded way. So I would say, yes it happens but use sparingly so that when it's used it has the fullest impact.

[@joshuairwin2016]

@@markc7440 She only did it once. Again Chakotay did it ON THE BRIDGE.

[@danrodriguez6205]

I really enjoyed the episode and I look forward to seeing more only one slight negative comment I think number one should complain to the ship's laundry because they did a very bad job laundering her uniform top I don't think it would pass inspection🤔🤭👍👏😊

[@joshuairwin2016]

What are you talking about? Her uniform isn't dirty. The only difference is that she's wearing Velour, and everyone else is wearing double knit. That's the costume that fit her.

[@danrodriguez6205]

Was about the collar looking like it was all stretched out of shape

[@pepperVenge]

Not bad. The production value is out of this world, as usual. The only thing I didn't like about this episode is the first officer, specifically when she said it's her job to question the captain. This is true, but she does so in front of the crew and she expresses frustration at her captain publicly. That is not what a first officer is supposed to do. Why the captain puts up with it, I'm sure I don't know. The TNG two part episode _The Gambit_ explained this exceptionally well. A first officer is only allowed to question the captain in private. In public, they are to obey their captain without question. We saw this dynamic between Kirk and Spock, Picard and Riker, and Janeway and Chakotay. Other then that, this movie wasn't bad.

[@joshuairwin2016]

I can’t really give you a hard time for not liking the first officer. The character is actually the villain of the story, and I wrote her to be pretty unlikable. And while what you’re saying should be true in principle, it isn’t always in practice. The first time Mason states her opinion Allenby asks for it. Directly after the attack, Mason expresses frustration with her tone that they are being chased by a Romulan warship, but does not directly challenge Allenby. In Engineering, Mason doesn’t directly challenge Allenby, she challenges Xhosa, whom she outranks. On the bridge she reminds Allenby twice that the ship is defenseless. Now there actually are several instances in Classic Star Trek when a first officer does challenge the Captain on the bridge when they feel ship is in danger, or are questioning the Captain’s fitness for command. Spock: The Conscience of the King: Spock openly questions Kirk’s orders to change course to Benicia Colony on the bridge. Arena: Spock approaches Kirk and urges him no to engage the Gorn in battle. He’s professional about it. He keeps his voice down, but it happens on the Bridge. The Doomsday Machine: Spock is openly adversarial with Decker while he is in command, challenges his orders and threatens to relieve him. And then does so. The Enterprise Incident: Even though It’s just for show, Spock openly challenges Kirks orders in front of the crew. Turnabout Intruder: Spock, though respectfully, engages in an open argument with who he believes is Captain Kirk on the Bridge. Riker: Allegiance: Riker forcibly takes command from Picard’s imposter when the ship is placed in danger. The Pegasus: The Pegasus First Officer led a mutiny against the Captain for conducting illegal experiments that threatened the crew. Lt. Commander Christopher Hobson Redemption Part 2: Spends the entire episode challenging Data’s orders on the Bridge, and is blatantly disrespectful of Data’s command. Chakotay: Scorpion Part 2: Disregards Janeway’s orders and terminates the alliance with the Borg. Equinox: Chakotay challenges Janeway on the bridge and yells at her in front of the crew. In the same episode he’s relieved of duty after stopping Janeway’s execution bluff of an Equinox crew member. I won’t even bring up Michael Burnham. In this instance, much like Christopher Hobson, Mason doesn’t believe in Alleby’s ability to command, and also believes that Allenby is endangering the ship. Is she unprofessional here? Yes. Would an ideal first officer behave this way? No. But Mason is human, and makes mistakes. And in real life people make less than ideal choices all the time. The story is about Alleby’s trial to prove herself worthy of command. For there to be a question as to her ability to command, someone must question it. Mason is the antagonist of the story who does. The Romulans are not the villain of the story, Mason is.

[@pepperVenge]

​@@joshuairwin2016 I appreciate your thoughtful response, but I respectfully disagree with much of what you've said here. And I emphasis the word "respectfully." What I say below may come off as adversarial, but assure you I do not mean it to be. I am merely offering constructive criticism. Further, I didn't think the writer of the story would respond to my criticism, but since that has happened, I will avail myself of the moment: I want to say that I think you wrote a good story here. I just don't think it needed Mason to be the counter point to Allenby that you made her. First, Mason may have been asked for her opinion from the captain a time or two, but she wasn't always. Most notably at 12:50 when Allenby orders the ship back into Romulan space. She was given a direct order, and she responds with frustration and objection. That isn't okay. She should have just carried out her captains order There was no obvious sign of danger. Its not as if Allenby was ordering the ship to fly into a star. They didn't know a Romulan fleet was back at the outpost, nor did they know if they would attack. In fact, the whole purpose of going back was to give a peace gesture, which is common among Starfleet tactics. And what Mason does or doesn't say isn't the sole problem. Her attitude through the episode is unacceptable for a First Officer, or any officer. She consistently shows annoyance and frustration at her captain Publicly, which is not acceptable under any circumstance. I know you tried to write Mason as the bad guy in the film, but the behavior she shows isn't what I would expect from a Starfleet officer. More like a petulant 13 year old. Maybe that's just the performance, I don't know. I opine that it may have been better to make the villain character a guest on the ship, and not a Starfleet officer, and certainly not the first officer. Now here I am going to address the several examples you cited. In your argument, you move the goal post. You're citing instances that do not equate to the dynamic we see between Allenby and Mason. Specifically, you cite situations where the first officer has reason to believe the captain is either not themselves, is directly in command (Captain is gone), or the captain is taking actions that will unnecessarily and most certainly threaten the ship or lives in general. *_"The Conscience of the King"_* You're mistaken, this isn't _Conscience of the King,_ this was _Turnabout Intruder._ Spock has valid reason to believe Kirk is either influenced by an unknown entity or otherwise impaired, making his public challenge to Kirk acceptable. *_"Arena: Spock approaches Kirk and urges him no to engage the Gorn in battle. He’s professional about it. He keeps his voice down, but it happens on the Bridge."_* This is because Kirks life is in danger, and doesn't stand a chance. The first officers duty is to safeguard the lives of everyone on the ship, especially the captains. *_"The Doomsday Machine: Spock is openly adversarial with Decker while he is in command, challenges his orders and threatens to relieve him. And then does so."_* Again, your argument here is invalid. Spock challenges Decker because Decker was directly placing the Enterprise in danger with his reckless attacks that both he and Spock knew wouldn't work. That falls under the "Unnecessary Risk" category. Spock relieved Decker because Kirk ordered him to. _Spock, I am ordering you to relieve Commodore Decker under my personal authority as Captain of the Enterprise._ Both Kirk and Spock rightfully believed Decker was not fit to command, particularly given what he was trying to do. *_"The Enterprise Incident: Even though It’s just for show, Spock openly challenges Kirks orders in front of the crew."_* If it was just for show, why bring it up? *_"Turnabout Intruder: Spock, though respectfully, engages in an open argument with who he believes is Captain Kirk on the Bridge."_* As I said above, Spock had valid reasons to believe Kirk was an imposter. Mason didn't think Allanby was an imposter, nor was there reason to believe she was. As you said, she was the villain who thought her captain wasn't a good captain, and expressed that belief publicly. *_"Allegiance: Riker forcibly takes command from Picard’s imposter when the ship is placed in danger. "_* Yes, of course he did. This wasn't an incident of simply questioning ones captain, this was a mater of life and death. Riker believed PIcard was not himself and acted before he could endanger the ship. Again, this is what a First Officers duty is; Keep the ship safe, and challenge the captain when they place the ship in unnecessary danger. *_"The Pegasus: The Pegasus First Officer led a mutiny against the Captain for conducting illegal experiments that threatened the crew."_* You said it better then I could have. The ship was under threat and the first officer acted appropriately. When the ship is in unnecessary danger, the first officer is supposed to directly act against the captain, even publicly. *_"Redemption Part 2: [Hobson] Spends the entire episode challenging Data’s orders on the Bridge, and is blatantly disrespectful of Data’s command."_* Hobson was acting on predjudice because he didn't believe an android should be a captain. He was not acting on a belief that the commanding officer was placing the ship in unnecessary danger. Frankly, if one doesn't believe that Hobson was a poorly written character, then you'd have to believe that he's a terrible Starfleet officer. *_"Scorpion Part 2: Disregards Janeway’s orders and terminates the alliance with the Borg."_* This is not a valid argument because Chakotay was acting as the Commanding Officer of Voyager when he did this, not the first officer. He always voiced his objections to Janeway in private when she still had command, and remained silent when he had disagreements in public. Further, Chakotay never believed that an alliance with the Borg would work and that such an alliance would only place the ship in unnecessary danger. And he was right. As soon as the war with Species 8472 was over, the Borg turned on Voyager tried to assimilate the ship. Thankfully, Janeway heard and considered her first officers objections, and they both worked together to prevent such an eventuality. *_"Equinox: Chakotay challenges Janeway on the bridge and yells at her in front of the crew. In the same episode he’s relieved of duty after stopping Janeway’s execution bluff of an Equinox crew member."_* Again, Janeway was placing Voyager in unnecessary risk as the tactics she was using to stop Ransom and the Equinox were dangerous and even unethical. Janeway relieved Chakotay because he threatened to relieve her of command if she tried anything like what she had been doing again. This is something the captain can do. As for Janeway herself, I think she was beyond angry and even afraid. She was angry to find a Starfleet captain resort to such immoral actions to get home quicker. She saw Ransom and the Equinox crew as blood enemies and would not hesitate to treat them as such. And I think she was afraid because she didn't want to believe that a Starfleet Captain could do the horrible things that Ransom had done. She was afraid that, if desperate enough, she might resort to the same acts, but she didn't want to believe that, and I think that terrified her. So stopping Ransom and the Equinox was more then just personal, it was more then just duty. It became the only thing that mattered, even if it meant her life and the lives of the Voyager crew. Fundamentally, she wasn't fighting Ransom and the Equinox, she was fighting to uphold Starfleet principles and ethics. But she did get a bit carried away, and even almost became the thing she was fighting against. I think Chakotay was trying to tell her that. *_"I won’t even bring up Michael Burnham."_* Thank you. (Continued in Second Comment)

[@pepperVenge]

@@joshuairwin2016 (Continued from First Comment) *_"In this instance, much like Christopher Hobson, Mason doesn’t believe in Alleby’s ability to command"_* This is clear, but why did Allenby tolerate it? That is not the conduct of a first officer that a Captain should allow. *_"and also believes that Allenby is endangering the ship."_* I would question how, because I don't see any unnecessary risks being taken here in this movie. First, Allenby diverts Excalibur to respond to a Romulan distress call. Despite the risk, Allenby is trying to save lives, something Starfleet would approve of I opine. This is not an unnecessary risk. Even though they are not allowed to cross into Romulan territory, they are bound by duty and morality to aid desperate, sentient lives who are calling for help, no matter who they are, or what species they are. Second, when Allenby orders the Excalibur back to the destroyed Romulan outpost, its to offer a gesture of peace to the Romulans to prevent a war between their two respective nations. Despite the risk, avoiding war is certainly worth dying for, and is certainly an act that Starfleet and all of the Federation would be highly grateful for. So this too was not an unnecessary risk. *_"Is she unprofessional here? Yes. Would an ideal first officer behave this way? No. But Mason is human, and makes mistakes."_* Well I'm glad you at least acknowledge that Mason is unprofessional. But that is why I have a hard time accepting that someone like her would make it as far as first officer. I understand she's human and makes mistakes, but this is not the kind of mistake that should be tolerated from a first officer. Anyone who makes it to the position of First Officer should already know better then to behave like this. So because she does behave this way, she really shouldn't have the first officer position. *_"And in real life people make less than ideal choices all the time."_* Civilians sure, but not people in Starfleet who are trained and earn positions like First Officer and Captain. You don't even see people in real life who serve in the military making mistakes like these. They're trained not to do such things, and if they can't hack it, they're not put in the field. They follow the orders of their CO, they respect the chain of command. Any objections are presented in private, IF, and only If their CO allows it. *_"The story is about Alleby’s trial to prove herself worthy of command."_* I think you did a good job writing Allenby. You can definitely see a character arc. *_"For there to be a question as to her ability to command, someone must question it."_* I respectfully disagree. The audience can pose that question well enough on their own. You don't need a visual story element to pose that question for the audience. You just need to show it. In the first TNG episode _Encounter at Farpoint,_ was there any element in the story that constantly questioned Picards ability to command the Enterprise? No, it was demonstrated to the audience through Picards actions. The story showed us that Picard had the ability to command the ship and lead its people. ------- I suppose that concludes my response. As I stated at the start, I hope you take this as just constructive criticism. I am not trying to be adversarial. Nor will I apologize for my criticism. If your response to what I've said here is adversarial, I will just politely ignore it. Again, I think you wrote a good story here, I just don't think it needed Mason to visually act as the consistent counter to Allenby's ability to command. Its not what a first officer is supposed to do as it is in conflict with what we have already seen of first officers in Star Trek, and even executive officers in reality.

[@joshuairwin2016]

@@pepperVenge I do appreciate the kind things you have said. A content creator will never make choices people won’t pick apart. I’m glad you like Captain Allenby for example, other commenters have disagreed with her, and even stated she shouldn’t be a captain because of her age or gender. (Yes I have multiple comments on another video stating a woman should not be in command) A writer might not respond on a real Star Trek episode, but a Fan Film is normally a pretty small project. Not only has the writer seen your comment. The actor has as well. I don’t feel I’m being adversarial with you. You stated what I felt was a rather rigid viewpoint that “the first officer in this fan production questioning her captain in front of the crew. She even expressed frustration at her captain publicly. That should never be tolerated, no matter the circumstance.” I then cited 12 examples where a First Officer did so in various ways. You then acknowledged that many of those instances were in fact tolerated due to the circumstance. But I would like to respond to some of your counterpoints. The Conscience of the King: 14:41 Spock: May I inquire as to our course Captain? Kirk: Benicia Colony. Spock: Benicia Colony is 8 light years off our course. Kirk: If my memory needs refreshing Mr. Spock, I’ll ask you for it. In the meantime, follow my orders. I, in fact, cited the “Turnabout Intruder” example in my first response. The scene in question occurs at 13:40. At that point in the episode, Kirk (Lester) hasn’t given Spock any reason whatsoever to be concerned. It’s in fact this bizarre exchange that peaks Spock’s curiosity to begin with. Spock has no reason at this point to believe that he’s talking to anyone other than Kirk. Spock may be quite logical and calm in the way that he questions the person he believes to be the Captain directly in front of the crew. But he definitely challenges Lester-Kirk’s orders on the bridge in front of the crew, embarrassing and enraging Lester in the process. Arena: The exchange at 15:28 is not about Kirk fighting the Gorn in hand to hand combat. Spock: You mean to destroy the alien ship Captain? Kirk: Of course. Spock: I thought the hot pursuit alone might be sufficient? Destruction may be unnecessary. Kirk: Colony Cestus 3 has been obliterated Mr. Spock. Spock: The destruction of the alien vessel will not help that colony Jim. Spock was professional about it. But did express that he disagreed with the course of action on the Bridge. The Doomsday Machine The example directly shows that a first officer will forcefully challenge a Starship commander on the bridge if said first officer feels that the ship is in danger, and not simply obey orders without question. Though you may not feel Allenby was endangering the ship. Mason did. The Enterprise Incident. I bring it up because why would Kirk and Spock engage in this behavior in front of the crew, if the crew would be unwilling to accept the behavior as genuine? I’ll give you one last TOS example of a Starfleet officer that did absolutely behave in the way you state no officer would… Dr. Leonard McCoy. That guy never held back on his viewpoint, even when it was completely inappropriate for him to even be on the bridge “Dammit Jim! What the hell’s the matter with you?” (Continued in the 2nd comment :)

[@joshuairwin2016]

@@pepperVenge (Continued) Encounter at Farpoint: Apples and oranges. Picard is 59 years old in this episode. He had been a Captain for 31 years at this point in his career. No one in Starfleet doubted his ability to command at this point. Which is why he’s given command of the Flagship of The Federation. He had long since proven himself to Admiral Hanson, and Starfleet Command. Allenby is only 31 here, and is burdened by the perception that her appointment was politically motivated. She’s not proving to the audience that she deserves to command, she’s proving it to her crew, the fleet, her first officer, and most importantly.. Herself. These are different stories. Interestingly enough in “All Good Things” when Picard behaves in an odd manner, Worf, Tori, then Yar openly question his orders on the Bridge when they feel his orders go against Starfleet orders, or endanger the ship. Redemption Part 2: Just as Hobson operates from a prejudice that Data should not be a captain, Mason operates from a prejudice that Allenby is not an experienced enough officer to be a Captain, and that her appointment was politically motivated. And that viewpoint factors into her perception that Allenby is endangering the ship. You seem to dismiss the idea that crossing the Neutral Zone directly into Romulan Space alone with no weapons and a severely damaged shield grid is dangerous. Ok, that’s your viewpoint. But Mason obviously felt the order endangered the ship. Like Spock, or Hobson, or Chakoty she questioned the order, but carried it out. “when Allenby orders the Excalibur back to the destroyed Romulan outpost, its to offer a gesture of peace to the Romulans to prevent a war between their two respective nations” Indeed, but Mason doesn’t know that. She was not privy to the conversation in the Briefing room because she was manning the conn. Perhaps they should have talked it over in the Briefing room first. But there may not have been time for that. You offer your opinion that Allenby doesn’t need an antagonist, or a foil. I “respectfully” disagree with your opinion. A hero dealing with a villain or a foil in their hero’s journey is a normal dramatic tool that’s been utilized from the beginning of storytelling. You might have made a different choice in my place. And that’s ok. But I stand by my choice. Mason being a flawed first officer. Maybe that’s why she’s not the Captain even though she’s been in Starfleet 15 years longer than Allenby. And perhaps she’s not yet overcome her flaws the way her Avalon Universe Doppelgänger Captain Derek Mason has. I would submit that this is Mason’s first tour as an XO, and perhaps she’s never gone through situations where she was placed in this type of position. Perhaps she’s never had to deal with jealousy before. Starfleet officers DO make mistakes. Riker made some dumb choices in my view. Early on in any job you make mistakes. I’m sure Mason won’t make those same mistakes again. Why did Allenby tolerate it? Because even though Mason questioned her, she did carry out Allenby’s orders. Allenby did not feel that Mason crossed the line. She was also more concerned with resolving the situation than in taking the time to discipline Mason, and maybe deep down she questions if Mason is right. In her own mind she resolved to talk with Mason about it later, and give Mason the respect Mason was not giving her, because she felt that was the right choice for her to make as a leader. When it was over, like Hobson, Mason admitted her mistake and her prejudice. And Allenby felt the matter was resolved. If I were to extend this story out I would say Mason eventually became one of Alleby's greatest supporters, even after their time on the Excalibur was over. Anyway, thanks for your feedback.

[@nb4749]

if you are going to do old Trek, it needs to have a classical style. Do something with the hair!

[@joshuairwin2016]

I think I'll make the film the way I choose to make it. But thank you for watching it.

[@vincentpuccio3689]

All woke cast hm🤔👎

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What was woke about it?

[@fredsilva7274]

DEI inspired. Hard pass.

[@DMSProduktions]

WTF?

[@joshuairwin2016]

This is a film written by a father, to tell his daughter she can be anything in life she sets her mind to.

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@@joshuairwin2016 Yeah. HARDLY 'DEI'!