Talking Points Review, Cheltenham & John Durkan Preview | Weekend Preview

[@tomhurcombe2185]

Given the way Willie operates with entries, he'd usually have entered ferny hollow in the hilly way on sunday just in case energumene can't run. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we hear some point soon he's had a setback.

[@tomhurcombe2185]

And he's confirmed as out for the season as predicted

[@moosiethestaggie5100]

Shout 👍

[@cannylufc8594]

Fleet Street 15/2 with Bet 365 for Saturday International personally think is a real bet at the prices no way he should be 15/2 and i like to move it 15/8 the two horses with best form are Epatante and Fleet street 5yo who will keep on improving i liked the way he won the other week .the new course will play to hes strengths a long up hill finish .way too big should be 3/1 4/1

[@tonyf934]

No pictures guys

[@MJB2244]

Banbridge needs decent ground, facile vega might go and win the supreme doing handstands but if an english horse won a maiden of that quality first time out wud of got absolutely slated, facile vega still might go ballymore, marine national on decent ground cud put it up to him in the supreme, was impressed with him in royal bond

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

Again, he wasn't slated. I said something along the lines of "That was a very good performance, definitely a player in the Supreme. Will give Facile something to think about" The thing with Facile is that we have a year of form to work with. Two Grade 1 bumpers, a Grade 2 bumper, so there is a lot more to work off. Horses in behind have come out and won. Sandor Clegane, The Big Doyen (FPP), Carnfunnock, Itwhatunitesus, Da Capo Glory, Joyeux Machin, Landrake, So Scottish, Harry Des Ongrais, Cool Survivor, American Mike, Poetic Music, Authorised Speed and more. That's the difference substance not bias.

[@MJB2244]

I am aware that FV bumper back form is decent, but its like novices going into open company, we dont know how gud there going to be no matter what there back form is, just saying in isolation we havent learnt a whole pile from that maiden and for it to be 5 to 4 for supreme is ludicrous.👍

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

@@MJB2244 oh I totally agree the 5/4 is rediclous at this time of the year, but he's priced up on what he has done in bumpers and the potential he has being the son of Quevega and so on. Unfortunately the days of getting 4/1 on a Douvan and Vautor type horse are well gone now. 90% of ante-post markets are madness these days.

[@AnthonyJohnson-iy1vn]

They have the perfect faces for radio 😂😂

[@tomgallagher7870]

I wouldnt say edwardstone was bang average over hurdles andrew..he has improved alot but say he was better than average his runs in the betfair hurdle and the county were good giving that weight away

[@daveokeeffe1424]

🤣

[@timcomley5948]

That joke is 100 years old ffs

[@danielkelly573]

That Andrew is some clown,if constitution hill came 3rd with a rating of 160 or over he be calling him a yak and of course nothing wrong with facile Vega when Sean put him in his place,have to wait to see a few more runs rather than hyping him up to be next best thing

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

What 🤣🤣 Literally noting was said about Con Hill this week bar he and Jonbon will win on the Tuesday. Times are so misleading when you compare a horse Facile Vega in a maiden where no one wanted to get within an arses roar of him. If you think Facile Vega would have finished 5th in the other race then your plain and simple wrong. Times in races like the Tingle Creek to the Henry VIII, that has a lot more substance to it, because its a Grade 1 with Grade 1 horses in where they are all there to win not sit out the back if the TV, but if you want to take times literally than you'd want to get on Paul Nolans horse ASAP for the Supreme.

[@danielkelly573]

@@TheFinishingLinePodcast Its the way ye hype up horses,I think Facile vega is a lively horse but let it run before bigging it up,sayin it's best horse in trainin before even jumpin a hurdle is madness and at least sean brings a bit of normality talkin about the times and I'm on about if constitution hill came 3rd like honey suckle did ye would be tearing strips off him,the bias is sickening!! Just call it as it is and acknowledge constitution would beat honey suckle on the bridle

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

@@danielkelly573 first off, I never said Facile Vega is the best horse in training, I personally think that Allaho is the best horse in training. I have 0 problems in saying Con Hill will beat Honeysuckle, end of, he is so good. There is a bias with me and Honeysuckle as I've been on her since day 1 and if you are on someone like that from day one you find it very very hard to get away from it, and people who have been watching us for a while now will know that, and I get when people who only watched recently say what am I on about. I'll give you an example of what happens with us. I started the Bob Olinger fan club years ago and the second I saw Galopin over a fence I said there was no hope Bob beats that unless he falls (which he did) and I was called everything under the sun again because I jumped ship and said that Galopin was a better horse than Bob. This is what we deal with on a daily basis, no matter what we say someone won't like it and will abuse you. People are never happy 🤣 I don't get how people think its ok to abuse people over horse racing, it's baffling. Jesus Christ it's horse racing and we put on a show to try make an entertaining show and have a bit of banter as we go. Of course we get more wrong than we do right, but that's the name of the game.

[@danielkelly573]

@@TheFinishingLinePodcast Na I retract my clown statement,bit harsh to be fair but if the bias around the Irish horses didnt blinker yer opinion think ye would be on alot more winners 😂 And all in all it is a good show,dave is quality!! Yeah sure I think Kilcruit was another monster until he wasnt,the joy of racing I suppose 😂

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

@@danielkelly573 I admit it Honeysuckle clouded my judgement but the whole not liking English horses is madness, just go look at my horses to follow, for someone who hates English horses I think half of them are English 🤣🤣 We all get it wrong and it's not the last time we all get it wrong, but wouldn't have it any other way 😆

[@steffanrosser7250]

Why just audio

[@Thatsportselephant]

The vega had an easy race, a schooling session, "jumped like a handicapper" was slightly worrying report though. Good leg action for the hill but jumped like Sir Gérhard last year, he still won. All about leopardstown.... hope willy knows hes a gooden, American mike did the form a knock as well. Appreciate it was still 9-4 at Christmas, FV to short to back now. Please get him right sir willy

[@tomhurcombe2185]

There was something wrong with American Mike. Clearly wasn't himself.

[@Thatsportselephant]

@@tomhurcombe2185 hope so

[@tomhurcombe2185]

@@Thatsportselephant "It’s back to the drawing board with American Mike. He wasn’t right after his race at Navan. We’ll give him a few easy weeks and see how we are then. It was disappointing but he’s a very, very good horse. He’d have pulled up with another furlong yesterday. We know what the problem is and we’ve just got to iron that out." Gordon on mike

[@Thatsportselephant]

@@tomhurcombe2185 great stuff tom thats encouraging. i said all year FV and CH were bankers, hope we're right come March 👍

[@johnsonkevin1]

Why is "jumped like a handicapper" worrying?

[@tomleach1428]

Mighty potter doesn't jump well enough... won't get away with that at Cheltenham imo

[@patrickhickey3597]

Is this just audio

[@thomaskean613]

It is for me

[@TheFinishingLinePodcast]

It is. The wrong setting was turned on so just the audio was recorded this week.

[@tomleach1428]

What we don't get to see Tom's reciding hairline? 😜😁😁

[@deancrozier7293]

Ferny is out again Dave 🙈

[@thomascooper1144]

What happened to the camera? Lol

[@chriscolombe888]

Lol wtf is everybody? 😂

[@MrLucky29Luke]

No video and your highest views yet LOL

[@wagless]

Have you all had facial surgery?

[@jamiehernandez8169]

I know Dave's bloody ugly, but why just audio ??

[@daveokeeffe1424]

Harsh