SUNDERLAND 2-1 NORWICH CITY | CANARIES KEEP FINDING NEW WAYS TO LOSE

[@jamesr5827]

It's been a rough period, and it may well be a difficult season, but I'm fully convinced that we have the right man for the job in JHT. I would much rather have a turbulent short-term if it sets us up for a bright long-term 🔰

[@antonioaguiar5071]

Agreed, constantly swaping gaffers doesnt seem to be the solution. Lets trust the process, for now...

[@geoffpoole483]

Daniel Farke's first season at Norwich was nothing special, but that soon changed.

[@GrahamShepherd-b8d]

Well said Jack. Thanks for your measured summary. Have a good Xmas.

[@brianlawson6006]

I watched the game yesterday ..I'm a Sunderland fan. Thought Norwich were a bit unlucky, but for the referee you would certainly have secured a point. I think Norwich will be fine. Reminds me of where Sunderland were last season. Decent players, good manager, a dew additions and you will be at least top 6... Good luck...always liked Norwich

[@camper9356]

Huh, Sunderland better team and it was a sending off, the only thing Sunderland did wrong was giving away a weak goal. Absolutely deserved the win

[@kaiguevara3272]

Sunderland fully deserved the win, I do wonder why some Sunderland fans unnecessarily put a negative slant on things. The best team won.

[@grantallsopp6372]

😂😂

[@psmith77271]

Sunderland are ones to watch, why? They are not playing their best at the min, a bit of a slump in form and are still getting points from games, that is a sign of a very good team/coach/set up. Last season, no way would sunderland have got anything from these games

[@michaelbowers541]

I initially interpreted your comment as having a dig at us, but having read it properly, I now see what you meant. Last season we were awfully mismanaged & while to be fair I didn’t expect us to be within a shout of top two at Christmas (at least before the festive period anyway), I always felt our team was good enough for playoffs if we addressed certain things within the side. All this having sold Jack Clarke as well. His replacements effectively, Romaine Mundle & Tommy Watson both currently out injured too. As for Norwich, didn’t make much of them yesterday but I also think Jack & Chris have a point about McLean & Sargent making a difference when both return. For me, when everyone is fit, Norwich have a side capable of challenging playoffs. But that’s just an outsiders view yet someone is who is a fan of this channel.

[@psmith77271]

@michaelbowers541 yeah, what i was getting at was tbe games where sunderland have had a draw or just scraped the win this season, last season tbey would of lost them games. They had a great start to this season. But dropped off slightly, difference is with the little drop off they are still picking up points. After the year i think sunderland will knock it up a gear and be within a chance of autos.

[@michaelbowers541]

@@psmith77271 sorry for the late reply. Thought I had replied to this but obviously didn’t. While many of the draws we had were very frustrating (Coventry & Millwall respectively considering the late equalisers in both games), they could be massive come the end of the season. If we’re still in the mix for automatics going into the window & particularly if we do well in January then it could be very encouraging. As for Norwich, a couple of really winnable games for you. Big week ahead is it fair to say?

[@ewanmcc01]

The worst thing you can do against Sunderland is go a goal up and defend for the rest of the game until you're inevitably a goal down

[@paulmorrison4983]

Sanz obviously is a quality player but does he normally go on like that ? One of the previous comments sums it up perfectly . "the boy who cried wolf"

[@chrissoames3410]

I really feel (and I've said this before) that Borja is holding us back as a team. Obviously a wonderful player, but more and more he seems to be just trying to do it all on his own. The amount of times yesterday he went straight into a defender whilst missing really obvious attacking passes that were on, and in some cases just straight up losing the ball. There will be games where he randomly scores lots of worldies for us, and he will be rightly praised (and absolutely nailed on for PotS), but I keep thinking back to the early days of the Farke era and how much better we looked when we lost James Maddison, even though we were super depressed about it at the time. Overall I agree with you Jack, we're not far away, mistakes are costing us a lot of points, we're playing really well but not capitalising on our chances, and these injuries and suspensions are just absolutely killing us. Fix those issues and we're suddenly 20-30 points up the table. Keep the faith!

[@Res0nate]

Without his goals we’d be in the relegation zone

[@chrissoames3410]

@@Res0nate It's a fair point, and I'm not underselling his value to us this season in any way, I just suspect we'll be a better "team" once he's gone. Or he can start passing the ball occasionally and I'll stop complaining!

[@xixXxxXxix]

​@@chrissoames3410as a Sunderland fan I was supremely disappointed by him yesterday. I was bigging him up to my Dad and looking forward to him v O'Nien 1v1 before Kick-Off. He made 1 half decent through ball that went out for a goal kick and the rest of the time he spent obviously diving which I was gobsmacked that the ref blew his way for numerous times. A better ref and he'd have been carded twice for the theatrics. One your point about being a better team without him, I had a lot of detractors last Season within the Sunderland fan base whenever I stated that we'd be a better team without Jack Clarke, including my Dad n brother who said I was stupid lol. My point was that even under Mowbray our entire play went down the Left Wing to Clarke, and yes he'd scored the most goals but that was because he was the only person being fed the ball and he was also on Penalties. This was also borne out in the fact that Patrick Roberts didn't score in the entirety of last Season n only for 2 assists. Since Clarke left we've brought through 2 extremely good Left Wingers in Romaine Mundle and Tommy Watson who've both been Man of the Match a number of times and have both been Match Winners. Sadly they're both currently injured but yesterday when Roberts was switched to the Left he played the best he has for 2 years. The team as a whole has had better chemistry and has been more free flowing with people all over the pitch chipping in with goals and assists, all of that to say that is why I agree with your assessment that yous could be a better team without Saínz. Sometimes you add my subtracting, and take away his dives yesterday and winding our players up and Norwich might have come away with a result because being as pissed off as the Sunderland players were with Saínz trying to get them and even Régis Le Bris sent off, there was no way they were allowing him to come away with even a point.

[@grs4691]

Completely agree with you

[@ScaloNCFC]

Having travelled to Sunderland yesterday, and sat through the 90 mins, I was disappointed. Shocking game management from our players, especially Cordoba. Not seen it back but looked like we should've had at least 1 pen for handball. I don't like to be negative about such a good player, but it was the worst game I've seen Sainz play for us. He looked disinterested and lost the ball more times than I could count!! It was a replica of the Burnley game tbh. January can't come soon enough because this squad needs help. Have a good Christmas everyone, and let's hope for more green shoots on boxing day

[@andywright160]

Could of been down too 9 men dirty crap side enjoy zero points

[@ScaloNCFC]

​@@andywright160 both teams were close to having players sent off tbh, the game got scrappy. I never said we deserved anything from the game lad, we were crap.

[@xixXxxXxix]

​@@ScaloNCFC Sunderland were only close to having someone sent off because Saínz was diving round like a little prick n the Ref was so thick he believed him numerous times. He'll never make it in the Premier League if he acts like that against a challenging team, doesn't matter how many he'll score this Season. Also, wasn't a handball in a million years and if u wanna talk about penalty what-ifs Sunderland had a couple better shouts that were worse tackles than Cordoba's first (I didn't see his 2nd as looked away briefly) & definitely worse than tackles that Saínz "won" free kicks from.

[@simonsuniverseofmusic8585]

I was there yesterday I feel just forget everything about this season and . Let’s see what happens in the summer and see what next season brings. This season is just going to be hard to see for Norwich City

[@purplexphantom9525]

What i took away from that game was - Nlrwich are a good team and I can see why they've been moving up the league. BUT, from that game want I can say is "they are a bunch of cheaters made of rice crispies". Every battle for the ball and Sainz would be on the floor for no reason. There was a moment early on where Ballard got kicked in the head - fine after 20 seconds. On the other side, Sainz gets battled off the ball TWICE by O'nien - drops to the floor clutching his face. Don't get me wrong he's a great player on an upwards trajectory but he was genuinely embarrassing all game

[@leemday5731]

We are in free fall with the ground coming up fast the club needs now to organise some kind of frantic action...before its to late?

[@sch9673]

As a Sunderland fan who enjoys this channel and the banter between Jack and Chris, I have to say, Norwich are a bang average outfit. We were nowhere near at our best, but the better sides don't need to be to win. Norwich miss Sargent naturally but we are missing many players, Mundle, Watson, Samed and Abdullahi are back in the coming weeks, thankfully. Norwich seem like a bit of a nothing team, not in a horrible way, in the sense that they look neat and tidy, they can pop the ball around well, in all the areas that don't matter, so heavily reliant on Sainz, if he has an off day, which he did yesterday, soent more time rolling around and sulking, then Norwich are just no real threat. All the best for the season ahead and have a great Christmas

[@dalebaker5030]

as a norwich expat, it's about next season, although sainz will surely be a goner it will be a delight to see some of the utter dross stealing a living leaving at the end of the season.

[@DubaiCanary]

I guess JHT was handed a number of senior players who will not be in his longer-term plans. We have seen glimpses of what this team can do and that makes these inconsistent results so frustrating. We have to hang in and give him a couple of transfer windows before we see the real JHT side emerge. If he gets all his 'ducks in a row' we could be in for a very exciting ride next season!

[@Mrtwistedblack]

Safc fan, what was going on with your Keeper and Defender.. you need to sort stuff out like that for you to improve. Small margins in this league, those sort of things matter.

[@aconiteuniverse]

Not playing Crnac as centre forward is criminal...

[@jonathanpayne3298]

I think you hit nail on the head when it does go right it looks unbelievable! Semi false hope

[@paulmorrison4983]

It looks like you were missing Sargeant

[@christopherstone9277]

Ok Jack and Chris now we will see what Attanasio has really got. Despite the positive vibes this team is failing dismally and increasingly next season offers only concern. Knapper proper reset required, no half measures, anybody who think Barnes, Hernandez, Duffy, Sorenson and Hanley are worthynof retentionis delusional. Otbc

[@walteroconnor2805]

If you got points for diving and rolling about you would be top of the league, some of your players are a disgrace,

[@RC-yd3hx]

We need a Skipp-type midfielder who keeps the ball well, senses danger and protects our CB’s who have been liabilities for most of the season. If we can find that CDM it will be huge to how JHT wants to play. Once Sarge is back it will take some of the burden off Borja

[@elliotsloan3983]

Skipp was an absolute cheat code in this league.

[@NigelCraske]

I've been saying that all season,Alex Tetty did so much good work unnoticed,this season we just can't put a run of wins together,I want to be positive but when the run of 2 wins in 13 is relegation,I'm sure we will pick up points when McLean and Sargent are back in the team,we definitely need new players in January,a strong midfielder who can hold our team together,at the minute we just can't c games out,very frustrating because at times we look a good side but another defeat to go with the Burnley match when quite easily of been 2 wins,it does hurt and like any other fans I want success at my club 🤣🤬💛💚🇬🇫

[@ange1098]

Nunez form is not improving, Sargent is injury prone, Sainz might be gone. Could go on but basically we’re in 🤔

[@StoltenbergsFall]

without Josh we are mediocre

[@scottybee8]

there not ready for there PL yet miles off 🔰😂

[@sj-30000]

Neither are Sheffield United, but looks where they are... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@scottybee8]

@ have more of a chance then Norwich

[@domdesouza444]

You can use the words transition and patience all you want, football won't wait for Norwich to decide when it's ready to mount a serious promotion campaign. Leave it too long and get overtaken by hungrier teams.

[@sunboycold9164]

Sunderland didn't play well yesterday but still won the game.

[@sj-30000]

Bit like what the team at the top are doing every week

[@andywright160]

Poor side Norwich never seen a team dive so much in the championship your no.7 should be in the Olympics like Tom daily poor side sat back got punished haha zero points

[@reddevilreview97]

6th to 13th is progress? JHT has taken Norwich backwards

[@kra6750]

In danger of feeling sorry for ourselves and acting as such. The manager needs to install discipline and fight into the team.

[@ragioniereacasamia]

The referee let the Sunderland players literally bullying Sainz,there won't be a more blatant red card than what O' Nien did to Sainz(it will be a scandal if the EFL won't punish him) ,my God even their manager participated.So it would have been a very different match if Sunderland played with 10 from the first half.And second half apart from their goals they had one big chance with Isidor and nothing else.Norwich even with 10 men had a big chance right at the end hitting the post.

[@nickwilso77]

Sainz was boy who cried wolf, dived at every opportunity You were lucky you didn’t have more than 1 sent off

[@kaiguevara3272]

@@ragioniereacasamia don’t be so daft, Sainz brought it on himself, all he was intent on doing was play acting, he even made it out as though the manager Le Bris tripped him up which when you see the replay he clearly didn’t. Sainz was lucky to stay on the field, he was embarrassing.

[@Arthur-t3j9y]

The referee gave norwich everything .

[@xixXxxXxix]

This has to be a rage bait comment because Saínz was making his diving super obvious. If any punishment were to be made it would have to be to Saínz or the refereeing team for entertaining his cheating tactics. If he acts like this when he comes up against teams who are a challenge then he'll never make it in a Top League.

[@Arthur-t3j9y]

Sunderland are by far a bigger and better team than norwich. Always will be .

[@TheHesK9]

It's not a new way of losing. This has been a consistent way of losing for 4 years now. Going ahead and losing the lead

[@EPIICFOOTBALL-ej8vb]

Yeah. Norwich city need to learn if your the best in the first half your opponents will be 10 times better in the second half . Like in the 21-22 when we were in the premier league it happened so much. Like I remember watching them when they played against Sheffield united and wolves. How they were winning at half time but blew it away. Happened in our last 2 games as well. So annoying the way we lose

[@TheHesK9]

@EPIICFOOTBALL-ej8vb Yep we never seem to kick on after half time

[@stevestibbons1789]

Guys let’s no kid ourselves, we are what we are, a bang average team in a very tough league, we weren’t ever going to get promoted was we, our best this season was and still is making the playoffs. What ever happens the manager needs time , hopefully he is given the time by the board and especially by us the fans. 💛💚 Merry Christmas 🍻

[@14adamrichardson]

It’s fair to say Norwich were the better side AFTER the red card. But my god, yous spent more time rolling around than anything else; embarrassing. Almost as embarrassing as your centre half and goalkeeper trying to scrap with each other

[@ScaloNCFC]

You're right on both of those unfortunately - I was in the away end, and tbh almost all of us were getting so frustrated with Sainz diving every time someone breathed on him 😂

[@14adamrichardson]

@ it actually worked against him because we ( the crowd ) were shite, but the way he kept going down actually got us going atmosphere wise. The referee I feel was appalling for both sides, albeit a bit more for yous with the red.

[@ScaloNCFC]

​@@14adamrichardson I said that to my brother who went with me - we let you into the game by rattling your players and fans. Such poor game management because the atmosphere was flat before all the diving! Do agree though, the ref was giving yellows for absolutely anything! Good luck for the rest of the season mate

[@MarlboroughBlenheim1]

Mid season middle of the road mid table mediocrity.

[@DubaiCanary]

This is incredibly frustrating because it's clear that we are one of the better teams in the Championship. The issue lies in the small things that aren't quite working for us at the moment. Injuries, suspensions & referees have certainly played a part, but, just like last week against Burnley, where we completely dominated the first half, we ended up causing our own downfall. I felt that in the first half yesterday, we were far superior to Sunderland and fully deserved our lead. However, we then hit the self-destruct button and handed them an early Christmas gift.

[@sj-30000]

Your first goal was a gift by us FFS. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DubaiCanary]

@@sj-30000 🤣🤣🤣

[@handyman683]

The relegation battle is on. One day they'll turn up

[@samw4758]

It's simple when you have josh sargent you win without him you suck!

[@camper9356]

Norwich were Shit. One of the worst sides I’ve seen at the SOL this season. Disjointed and far from being a team

[@aconiteuniverse]

Our home record isnt that great...draws draws

[@Chris-9197]

You are just a mediocre team, delusional to think you should be any higher in the table. From what I’ve seen in the last few weeks you will be lucky to stay up.

[@Froge0]

Peep his pre season predictions 😆

[@dylanhall5102]

Someone’s rattled 🤣🤣

[@calectize]

Calm down Chris mate 🤣

[@tangfastic7075]

Thorup is out of his depth. You drove Wagner out and now you're defending this young, unknown coach who is taking us backwards. Give the same treatment to him as you did Wagner, young man.

[@elliotsloan3983]

I don't think you can blame Jack for Wagner's sacking like he's solely responsible.

[@ScaloNCFC]

Difference is, Wagner had 18 months - Thorup has had 5 so far. If you were happy with the squad and style of play under Wagner then that's fine, but it was an old squad which scraped play offs before getting embarrassed at Leeds. Change is important, and if we want any chance at progressing as a club we need to give this time. Thorup is the manager, and whether you agree with it or not he won't be judged for this season because he has inherited the majority of this squad. If in the summer there is an overhaul and we still are mid-table then I'm sure many will critique him. Have a good Christmas

[@timmoore2598]

​@@ScaloNCFCThanks for saving me a long posting 😂👍

[@ScaloNCFC]

​@@timmoore2598 😂 good to know there's some like-minded fans about!

[@jonathanpayne3298]

Wagner is this you?? Are you okay hun?

[@garethcoleman1]

sucking right now

[@AL6Rockman]

What can you say that might make things right, absolutely nothing,

[@AaliyahBland-w5o]

Sack him please