Dr David Starkey: 'Russia is a country made in blood and violence'

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[@royalirishranger1931]

As usual David Starkey has a very sound grasp on the reality of the situation , unlike our PM and his government.

[@hittitecharioteer]

David Starkey is compulsive listening.Why the man isn't an advisor to The Foreign Office I don't know. The Foreign Secretary doesn't know her geography; so I imagine she's more than capable of demonstrating her lack of history knowledge too.

[@steadfastandyx4947]

I don't think cabinet ministers and politicians, in today's world, will allow intelligent and knowledgeable advice. They are unable to understand the advice anyway and too arrogant to defer.

[@mancini3989]

Compulsive. You are spot on

[@wiggawithattitude]

Because he talks about things that actually correspond to reality, and that doesn't work for their agenda.

[@nickgent9949]

Dr Starkey continues to impress me regarding his extraordinary ability to link the past with the present. This enables him to speak with unrivalled authority on a broad range of subjects. We are so fortunate that he can dissect the most complicated and controversial subjects and bring them down to “street level”. We are very indebted, thanks so much Starkey!

[@annehudson3210]

What a wonderful intelligent man is David Starkey so good to listen too.

[@middleman9183]

Love hearing Starkey's historical take on events

[@cavendish009]

David always right - frighteningly right ! So fascinating.

[@violinstar5948]

“Get a chinese virus - get a chinese society” - Best Starkey Quote

[@MickeyCool30]

Chinese society is communist just like Russia ex KGB never change their spots

[@bigjoeangel]

Brilliant man, compelling listening, thanks.

[@stevensarson482]

Two of the life rafts that might keep us from drowning in a sea of lunacy. Ian and David , always a good listen.

[@grumpy-dad3701]

And the UK, Europe and America was made on a bed of rose petals & unicorn poop.

[@Capristan1954]

Old school Dr David Starkey. I wish he taught me for history 55 years ago, then I wouldn't have been first out the school gates on leaving day.

[@iaminyourbrain5400]

He's the man like

[@pablocortando1]

The most intelligent and interesting gentleman on talkRadio,well done Again Ian.

[@medieval07]

David Starkey is brilliant 🤩

[@junesmith790]

Starkey’ Never Dull Could listen to him all day. Interesting genius of historical facts 👌💕

[@demcheeks9847]

"Sir" David Starkey is one of the most informative and intelligent people of our generation. A Misunderstood man by the indoctrinated but celebrated by skeptics and deep thinking people

[@redwine2664]

and a spin doctor.

[@paulwilson2651]

Bollocks he is a Right wing nut job if he wants to rabbit on about a Country built by blood all he has to do is look around at the corrupt UK he lives in.

[@JohnSmith-mk4nf]

His spin' on history has a lot more in common with harsh historic realities, than any contempory I can think of.

[@nifralo2752]

As opposed to those countries that where not made by blood and violence. Name just one

[@whattheactualfook976]

Wakanda ( probably )

[@samain11]

I joined the army at 16 and spent 12 years training in Germany to fight the 3rd Shock Army, we assumed that we were outgunned and that our role was to die as slowly as possible to give time....outnumbered and outgunned we were but all our stuff worked and our soldiers were properly trained, might we have won?

[@UKtoUSABrit]

Starkey is one of the great public intellectuals of last few decades.

[@servicekid7453]

Why can’t we have more discussions like this on TV? People might actually learn something!

[@agw100100]

What... And displace cookery programmes, soaps and talent contests. Fat chance.

[@470danadidas]

Always a brilliant analysis by Dr Starkey. I could listen to him all day .

[@masterofnone8400]

So is every country david

[@lydiamalone1859]

The same for the Ukraine.

[@suds2808]

David is such an intelligent man, when he talks you listen

[@bobandrew8884]

Not a fan of the frequently anti Scottish, Starkey, however he at least is more objective than most on this subject. He also omitted to mention that Britain and France were allied to Turkey at the time of the Crimean war. Slavery of Christians was legally accepted at the t in the Ottoman Empire then, the slave markets of Belgrade were in operation till the 1890s. Starkey like all clever men picks his facts carefully to fit his arguments.

[@rahulmodi8706]

Well said. It’s disingenuous of Starkey. Likewise for Syria, pre-civil war it was peaceful. The Jihadis supported by the Western Neo-cons destabilised the region. The same group did the tactics in Ukraine While Britain is great for ending slavery. Starkey have habit of playing down atrocities in Ireland and Africa by the British empire

[@Finn-yd3iw]

Find this one sided

[@terencematthew1]

What about the Ukraine murders in Donbass

[@artelibros]

Would never mention them because it doesn't suit his Russophobia and narrative.

[@wendyjones5853]

What David Starky doesn't know about British history and especially the Tudor period is not worth mentioning , the guy knows his onions 😢

[@brian5154]

David Starkey "lies" by omission. He forgot to say that it was the Soviet Union, with 25 million dead, who beat Hitler, who preoccupied 70% of Hitlers armies and enabled D-Day to succeed, who's land was butchered and burned in the worst battles of the European war. Having witnessed their land and people beig raped in a totally barbarous way, it is not surprising that they wanted to exact revenge in the most brutal manner.

[@fujohnson8667]

I think every country is including our own. We had 3 civil wars to decide to go with a constitutional monarchy as opposed to an absolute monarch.

[@DrawnInk1]

Should be an advisor to the foreign office.

[@aaronburge3680]

How was the UK and America made?

[@nifralo2752]

Stop making completely valid and logical points

[@aaronburge3680]

@@nifralo2752 Haha

[@artelibros]

Not suiting the narrative)))

[@chrisherne6454]

A ruling class that speaks one language and a peasantry that speaks another... Well England was one such for large parts of its early history and survived it, but not without much bloodshed.

[@artelibros]

exactly.

[@Jim804]

I like listening to David Starkey & Peter Hitchens, but they do seem to differ on some ideas. It would be interesting to have them both on together debating this.

[@raynierllewis2827]

Britain born out of love and respect.......

[@kirpalani-griffin3706]

Who can explain to me: Why this form of torture and "genocide" has not happened in other - i.e. all, most or even many - cities occupied by Russia (unless done by Ukrainians)? Why the Russians and the locals would leave bodies out on the streets for weeks and then leave evidence of atrocities behind as they move on to their next mission in orderly fashion? Why none of the images of bodies turned up during these weeks, when facilities such as Internet in the city were still operating? Why Russians would leave all these facilities still operating and for no obvious reason torture and kill just these few people? What you "know" about Putin being responsible for this - even if it was Russians who are responsible, there's no pattern of this and it may have been rogue soldiers? Why this belongs in a category of "genocide" where thousands might have been blown to pieces just to pass the time, but were left unharmed? Why satellite images of blobs are sufficiently convincing "evidence"? Why a thorough investigation from many independent parties is not underway, given the seriousness of accusations an capacity to proceed? Especially, why the mayor of this town failed to mention any of this atrocity in his "reclaimed city" victory speech? Because all I see otherwise is a mindless hatred of Russians and no answers. Thanks. Why, also did these images appear the day after Ukrainian leaders were quoted at stating they were going back to the town specifically with an agenda to "root out and destroy all those residents who cooperated with the Russian soldiers?" As one other commentator put it, "Perhaps for selling the Russians some eggs, they were then killed?" It's potentially a similar scenario to the fate of so many Afghans who worked with America and were then left to be tortured and killed by their fleeing "allies". Are these bodies real? I've even heard - not seen - of footage where some bodies lying down waved during or sat up after they thought the camera rolled by. True? I'm tempted to say they were calling for help, if it is true, but not after lying in the street for weeks first, I'm sure. So, are the dead actually Russian sympathizers killed by Ukrainians? Please demonstrate how that could not be the case? Ta. Note: It strikes me as perfectly obvious, given all that I can learn and with all my critical thinking at play, that Putin did not approach this event with an agenda to torture and kill Ukrainian people. There is solid room for doubt in every aspect. Peace is required now, and OUR decency in practice is critical before we preach and damn - and destroy - others from what we don't know.

[@ML-mu6vr]

Are you aware of the atrocities committed by the Russian tzars and the civil war between the two communist groups who took over????

[@ML-mu6vr]

As well as those assassinated by Lenin and co and Stalin? You are surprised? Well I'm not!!!

[@rayfinkle8860]

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[@drama772]

Well said mate, I have also been asking such questions and always get the same answer. Putin is bad 🤷‍♂️. Nobody or at least most people aren't willing to engage their brains and think for themselves.

[@jeffcarter5805]

Very well put.. Why are any of the main stream media not asking the same questions as you have.. No independent reporting allowed?

[@shrunkensimon]

Haha. And Britain and America aren't? The list of nations the USA has involved itself with is so long you need to scroll the wiki page.

[@lollyegan9072]

I love that turn of phrase..the lion will lie down with the lamb..very knowledgeable and intelligent man

[@wendyjones5853]

Well yes , but that saying is a biblical scripture meaning God's Kingdom the lion like person and the lamb like person will be at peace with one another ? Think its in the book of Isaah

[@ViridisLumen1689]

Starkey claims Ukraine didn't exist until 1945... Bad history. As well as the medieval state of Kyiv, Ukraine was first declared an independent state in 1918 and from 1921 was a union Republic within the USSR - there was no constitutional change in 1945. Whatever else he is saying, he is wrong in stating this.

[@andyyoung814]

Absolutely fabulous and enjoyable information. Love Starkers!

[@davidcottrell1308]

Dr. Starkey is really great!....and so very BRITISH!

[@adamtapas5584]

Excellent. Very sensible.

[@uttaradit2]

One sided history

[@jeremylister89]

On holiday in Spain about 2011, many Russians. Sullen, miserable looking, non smiling, gave everyone suspicious looks, rude, didn't queue, walked AT you on pavement, if you didn't get out of the way, even for elderly. They'd have knocked you to the ground if you didn't dodge them. Until ... on the evening full of drink they were singing loudly, shouting and temporarily 'happy' before the next day of misery. Only once a little Russian girl said hello to my mum and me in a lift..that was a shock! All this behaviour a hang over from Stalin and an oppressive regime? Most likely.

[@jsykesful]

Rich country, poor people... You know, what I mean? The problem is that not so much of population can speak English or German. Corruption through and through...

[@edwinleslie1330]

The University MINORITY Clowns who turned on him did us the MAJORITY a favour as we have him (thankfully) more and more. Including his own channel.

[@mrderwoz]

😂 😂 Same as USA, Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, Israel, etc..

[@davidcaledonia5187]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

[@milesbrown8016]

Well spoken

[@jonscotty3647]

Great conversation chaps thoroughly enjoyed it 👍🏼🙏🏼

[@ianelliott8224]

David on the money as ever

[@rogerhudson2814]

Superbe analysis. I hope Johnson has time to listen.

[@davidharvey4059]

Just excellent stuff, credit to Collins for letting the man speak without constant interruption Hard to disagree with any of it

[@brethren4life152]

and we are saints in white robes lol come on we have invaded and killed far more than the russians

[@jimdavis8391]

The Russians killed their own, foriegn excursions were not needed.

[@Markusctfldl]

Before even questioning the reality of Ukraine's opportunistic claims about how wickedly Russian soldiers are behaving, the WWII analogy is ridiculous. Did Soviet troops commit atrocities against Germany after they were invaded and subject to millions of deaths? Yes. But then again so did the Czechs in the Sudetenland. The crimes in the Balkans were utterly monstrous, and then you have the problem of what German soldiers themselves did during the War. The idea that Russia conducts war in some uniquely savage way in comparison to Europeans is ludicrous.

[@gerryweites3474]

Great video thanks

[@glennjenkinson1103]

We are a island,with people that can't afford heating,Ukraine isn't our problem, I don't want to die in a nuclear war, to protect peasant people,wake up people.

[@rayfinkle8860]

Peasant people?? And who might you be....? The 13th earl of KZbin??

[@alanjenkins1508]

Authoratarian power has a tendency to spread.

[@adamhesketh2338]

Lol peasant people wtf

[@staceydunne4317]

Ukraine is a European country with a desire to enter the European Union, as their neighbours Poland did with huge success. Why should anyone is Europe deny them a future..... What is the alternative being part of the renewed Soviet Union.

[@ricardodavidson3813]

Brilliant!

[@getinvolvedmt]

Which Country isnt?

[@samain11]

Blood violence and .......ignorance.

[@al_bish]

The human fallacies

[@davidhorobin1060]

Superb

[@comeonthegreens]

David is an absolute Legend!

[@MR-ys4ui]

"The frontiers of Britain are fixed"... He seems to have forgotten about colonialism...

[@johnhughes2124]

The 19th century is back, with a vengeance

[@brian5154]

David Starkey will eventually be proved wrong about Europe. He's an English speaking Anglo promotor. With some wayward countries, Europe will now strengthen.

[@staceydunne4317]

David has already been proven right by Germany's continuation of funding the Russian war machine through their imports of gas/ oil. Ukrainians are being slaughtered by the West but at Russians soilders hands.

[@joycemcleod8249]

As usual agreat informative talk

[@thomashealey291]

What a fall for David Starkey

[@febweb17]

David Starkey mentions how our language is being changed to mean different things. I noticed the start of this 40 years ago. The original meaning of the word Gay meant “full of joy or mirth.”. We all know now that it means people who have a desire for people of the same sex. I know many people who call themselves "Gay" and most of them really don't live up to the old meaning of the word.

[@jackreacher5667]

Noticed your comment, and just for clarification, Gay = Good as you. I don't know if you know this but a easy mistake to make.

[@mango2005]

When they abolished serfdom in the 1860s, it didnt make the regime more popular because the former serfs had to pay the landlords for their freedom as a loan. As for them being the "heirs" of something, I would argue that they are the heirs of Genghis Khan and the Golden Horde in their forms of government.

[@robbiepeterh]

To be fair, the Russians I’ve met while travelling abroad, ordinary Russian citizens, can only be described as hostile.

[@vinnyalbonetti1531]

Who wouldnt be hostile when the racist US and UK have demonised them in every media outlet. Its called racism to demonise one group of people. UK and USA are the most dangerous murdering nations that ever existed and aponsored by censorshio and media. Leave Russian people alone you racist hypocrits.

[@paulstewart4195]

Better you stay in your local pub ghen🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@vinnyalbonetti1531]

Pub? Do you identify as a female? 🤡 🤡 🤡 UK and US are partners in war crimes. Its only those that are ashamed of their leaders that hide that fact. These two are the most hated countries on the planet. Millions of brown and black people will testify to that. Millioms of familys of those deemd as collateral damage. Guess white supremecy is your stong 👉

[@artelibros]

ahahahaha, not true. Look at your british fellow countrymen

[@rogerhudson2814]

But isn't Ukraine exactly about borders, isn't it the Slavic ' U krajinu': 'at the border' in English. Krajina the old military border between Austro-Hungary and Serbia has the same root.

[@sarcasmunlimited1570]

That word (pronounced "kray" where the "a" is pronounced as "I") has an Indo-European orgin. It is related to the word Kreiss in German (where the "ei" is pronounced as"I"), which roughly translates to "District."

[@fredjones7307]

The nations who make up the five eyes security arrangement should form a solid security and economic block. The biggest difficulty with this is that the USA would have to reduce it's level of hegemony, which it would be reluctant to do, which is unfortunate for the USA because otherwise its hegemony will be taking away from it..the USA is likely to end up a very large fish in a pool that only it inhabits..

[@RagsYooTube]

'Germany isn't a state... machine producing Volkswagens ' ... Okee dokeee

[@colinpeck5271]

There is no Russian words for kindness and humanity....

[@anonUK]

"The Germans have no word for fluffy"- Edmund Blackadder, 1883 - 1917

[@peterharris3096]

'Look like us' precisely, we see refugees in down jackets carrying shopping bags stuffed with all they can manage carrying children and pets. that's why we empathize.

[@jeanetteb2347]

Strange, I cannot remember the EU countries voting to leave Britain...

[@davidparker6924]

I enjoyed that 👍

[@MickeyCool30]

The world is actually divided into two the free world and not free world. Yes India isnt liberal but then I wouldnt expect it to be it has its own gorm of democracy like we in UK do. We dont agree with our neighbours either. Russia isnt a free democratic country. The world is divided between communist/ideologically unfree and the not ideologically driven free

[@paulsprouse7239]

Jesus man I agreed with him from a left

[@nicksmith3245]

Brilliant man!

[@stevebryce54]

Outstanding analysis

[@mabbrey]

he knows hes onions

[@duquali1]

Starkey only knows history, not the current circumstances.

[@jackreacher5667]

We can talk about Russia and Ukraine all day, and the reasons for this war, (and there are many) , but the simple truth is Russia is just reminding the Slavic nations that they are the "Daddy". When you think of Europe , think of 4 peoples, Slavs, Latins, Celts, Germanics, this is the real crux of Europe, and the cause of most of its wars. The different mind sets/ambitions of these four Groups of People.

[@MickeyCool30]

Russia of coarse didnt have communism with Ivan the Terrible but many European countries had empires which were violent in some ways but they developed and grew out of that, communism enabled that to keep going in Russia. Russia in past didnt have an ideology it does now

[@mb3503-o4e]

I learned a lot

[@johnarmstrong3140]

Great quote … if it refers to the USA!

[@jimfiggerty833]

If India and China are taking more discounted Russian oil/gas .. that leaves what they were importing before available..... which likely will be discounted too. Leading to the price going down maybe.

[@sarcasmunlimited1570]

Starkey demonstrates that you don't have to be smart to get a PhD.

[@al_bish]

Agreed

[@nickycatton7882]

Excellent

[@tommykempo8962]

Like any other powerful country in human history then

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

For god sake someone elect this chap to design foreign policy for the UK over the next 100 years.

[@Richard19551]

One of the problems with Starkey's comments is that no one would have posited some enormous difference between the behavior of those in Ukraine in the past (the Kyiv Rus or later, when it was part of the Belarus-Lithuanian Commonwealth) and the Russia of the past. Nor was there such a significance between the behavior of Russia and Ukraine during the period of the USSR. But the difference between these nations now - is absolutely striking: Russia barbaric, Ukraine tolerant and civilized. And Starkey does not seem to realize that Russia is losing this war.

[@whattheactualfook976]

Ukraine tolerant and civilised? I think you spelt ‘corrupt tinderbox‘ wrong.

[@stanleyadamson912]

Explain how you think Russia is losing this war?

[@Richard19551]

@@whattheactualfook976 Oh, no, not at all! Have you also lived there? I find it remarkably tolerant - and extraordinarily civilized. Do you disagree? Why?

[@jackreacher5667]

@@Richard19551 I have lived and worked in Russia and found the same with its people, It depends a lot on what you are looking for.

[@Markusctfldl]

This didn't age well.

[@markmewordz6860]

Starkey remains, as always, acutely incisive.

[@nifralo2752]

Egypt has its own Pope as dose Ethiopia. Its not unusual.

[@eugenemurray2940]

Are not all countries?

[@halfrousseau69]

Ukraine was an autonomous republic in the USSR - and created in 1922, so a little older than the good prof reports.

[@markmewordz6860]

So, history began in 1922? Oh FFS

[@anonUK]

23 years?

[@artelibros]

Not as independent state.

[@Wer76der]

Several things that Starkey says makes sense, but others are complete nonsense and superficial generalizations, incl. his opinion about the left, the EU and the German state. He has no grasp about German politics. And some of his perspectives are just narrow-mindedly English.

[@hcsanli]

Germany isn’t a state?

[@jimdavis8391]

Not politically, no.

[@salkeld571]

The British Empire was so Angelic.The Butchers Apron has the Union Jack spot on.

[@voranartsirisubsoontorn9010]

If so with russia, it's its past. Putin simply 2aggressive.