14 Isle unto Thyself (Demo) - Hawaii Part II Part II

[@FerHivore]

It’s great listening to the demos and realizing Hawaii: Part II is actually like 16 different albums crammed into one.

[@Candme38]

Considering there's eleven songs, where did the other five albums go?

[@conic2721]

@@Candme38 they're all the mind electric and time machine

[@RainyFoxUwU]

666'th like let's gooo yes i'm gonna be that person

[@Candme38]

@@conic2721 And inside the mind of simon

[@starling1226]

You have 666 likes I don’t want to ruin it

[@distorted_heavy]

I love how crispy the drums are in this version

[@corngod8059]

the triangle makes it so much better I didn't know triangles were even useful instruments

[@KasioGames]

@@corngod8059the triangle is unironically my fav thing abt the mind electric

[@WILLWOODING5]

I know it's so clickity clackity

[@KivoThefirst]

ross

[@PizzazzGreen]

So crispy crunchy clickity clackity 😋 (I am a percussionist😭)

[@project_letters]

The "i was a victim of magic Apollo" bit siunds so much better here it's beautiful

[@asherstudiosREAL]

No way 😧

[@naps_878]

it sounds absurdly jazzy and it pleases my auditory senses.

[@Pizzaferretsissuperswag]

Fr it literally makes me ascend

[@tabby_013]

I love it so much more than the official version it’s just so *YUMMY*

[@pokerations]

why u here

[@robin-dm5ji]

this version is gives me tally hall vibes but the completed one gives me miracle musical if that makes sense

[@chickengaming4344]

it does

[@BlueYoshi]

apparently it was recorded in january 2006 so that's probably why.

[@bigmanbazzaaa]

A lot of the Hawaii: part II / part II demo songs have samples of unreleased TH songs, which might be why

[@Mr.Happy777]

@@bigmanbazzaaa In fact, Mind Electric and Time Machine were originally Tally Hall songs back before MMMM. Also the song I'm Gonna Win on Rob's solo album

[@alvhawk4461]

@@Mr.Happy777 and murders was prob meant for good and evil cuz demo was recorded in 2009

[@titoariscon5979]

Finally. Isle unto myself.

[@YgptheTallyHallfan]

Lyrics: Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a island onto myself I had a heart i hadn't felt Why would it hurt me? Or was it real? It was the day I had to part I was afraid to miss my heart What did it matter? Why did it matter? And would I feel? Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a victim of magic, Apollo Catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow, I followed Thinking alound without hearing a sound When all the planets fall to dust Lonely departing after us Gone not forgotten Long but forgotten In every element of life Love camouflages under strife Or other matters Not only matter Let there be more Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known Maybe we'll tango [tangle] tomorrow The sorrow Sweeping us up as our mother replies Suddenly, everything flowing My [like] water Clearer than all we can see With all thine eyes (Interlude) Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive? Why do murderous animals survive? Why do i deserve to be revived? Why are any of all of us alive?

[@salmonwalmon]

You don't know how much I love these demos of just Joe singing

[@Loui3star]

The voice distortion is not cool but the lyrics and other instruments make this a small issue and the actual album is more vibing

[@mirror9863]

soggy cat shark pfp based

[@tabby_013]

I love just hearing the thought process behind these with raw Joe vocals ESPECIALLY HERE OMG THE VOCALS ARE SO TASTY OMG 😭😭

[@platinumsix2087]

The final version sounds like it’s about the singer of this version.

[@platinumsix2087]

Even down to stuff like how this song says “why DO murderous animals survive”, while the album version is “why DID murderous animals survive.” It’s like it’s looking back while this version is in the present.

[@duolingoowl920]

@@platinumsix2087 interesting!

[@D9992.]

I love this

[@artistmeme8103]

I like this better than the album version for some reason. Feels a lot like a kind of song from the 40's or 50's, mixed with a hawaiian style.

[@MichaelTurner856]

Always reminds me of this song kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3SnpGNsbJVrZ6c

[@MichaelTurner856]

Or this version kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaqTnn-CgK9jerc

[@koopa_knight]

The drumming gives it late 60s and 70s vibes

[@terramarc]

I think that this and the Time Machine demo fit as standalone experiences while the complete versions are best played in the album’s sequence, neither of them are worse per-say, but they serve different purposes

[@GodsErrandGirl120]

That was exactly what I was thinking!!!

[@buddygang9834]

i think he sings this to himself in the actual album after he goes back in time, hence why "I" turns into "you"

[@nirvedkamble2858]

what

[@wash8533]

@@nirvedkamble2858 what do you mean what?

[@kaisatous8996]

@@wash8533 what

[@leowolastname2250]

holy shit

[@furrettheferret9562]

the idea presented in “time machine” is actually just Simon’s mind messing with him as he believes he did commit the murder

[@UnflappedFlea]

It's weird how "I" turned into "You"

[@xx_kerotehcorgi_xx2892]

You*

[@MrMoon-pp8xv]

I read the comic and then i heard it then i was like JESUS

[@mariea6034]

@Blaze Catt I still don't understand what's the story's about?

[@Alexplains.]

@@MrMoon-pp8xv tHe coMiC??

[@davide.9576]

@Luke B WHAT FUCKING COMIC

[@zoftell519]

why does it sound sort of like joe’s trying to sing with a country accent

[@kittlesgames6808]

It does

[@MichaelTurner856]

I guess a little bit if you squint your ears haha

[@christopherkimball350]

He's doing Belafonte, I think.

[@salteeth]

@@christopherkimball350 ?

[@christopherkimball350]

@@salteeth By Belafonte I mean Harry Belafonte! Joe is clearly influenced by the musician Harry Belafonte, who is a famous musician active from the 50s onward. The influence comes through strongest on "Banana Man", which Joe readily admits. Its not hard to figure out though, Belafonte's most famous song is the famous "Day-O (Banana Boat Song)". I think at this stage in the album's construction he was planning for it to be a lot more "tropical" than the final product turned out to be. The deeper but swinging vocal quality here seems to be an attempt to emulate, if not exactly replicate, Belafonte's style. You'll notice the quality of Joe's voice is very similar to the way he was singing in Banana Man, minus the affected grammar.

[@irena6197]

Idk why but I like the alternate lyric “ blind *a* shining star”

[@Zoinkerton778]

It implies a star can see in the first place

[@elmigajas]

@@Zoinkerton778 or to stop the light coming from the star

[@RainyDayDance]

It does sound unfinished but you wouldn't expect the final version to come out of this.

[@Loui3star]

Same, is flawless

[@mugpizza7297]

3:03 I AM ACTUALLY ASCENDING I LOVE THIS PART SO MUCH

[@paupaulikejuguito350]

Fr

[@cheesecake924]

ITS SO GOOD FR

[@its_ya_girl_soundous]

FRRRR THAT'S MY FAVORITE PART IT'S SOOOO GOOD IALQJDSO1ND9EHG

[@AzteckExistant]

THE BEST DAMN PART, LIKE HOLYSHIT IM ASCENDING!!

[@CodySky]

It feels better than the final version in my opinion

[@beefsmeller27]

0:00-4:19 best part

[@hummingbirdspark3998]

Do you dislike the last second?

[@Loui3star]

Bro i agree

[@CrimyAndTheMoonphases]

Oh you little goober

[@just1rando]

​@@hummingbirdspark3998 The last second was garbage the rest was amazing

[@Aloekunyep]

True

[@CharlotteTriesExisting]

I will literally kill to get hawaii part II part II on Spotify ☹️☹️

[@edynleaf]

Real

[@AceCJay]

I volunteer as tribute

[@Sharkie_numbskull]

I’m sorry I already sacrificed my soul for silksong

[@axl256gamesx7]

So we will *murders*

[@qiwunu]

I agree. I think that Miracle Musical should have released this as an album on Spotify as well. I wouldn't have ever known there were demos in the first place if I didn't go on the Miracle Musical wiki page.

[@abbiec2.089]

The magic apollo verse in this version is so much better

[@moonybamboony]

agreed!!

[@angry3195]

disagreed!!

[@achoo3001]

disagreed!!

[@Uber_Versace]

@@achoo3001 agree to disagree.

[@achoo3001]

@@Uber_Versace ok i'm not sure why i said disagree cos the apollo verse in the demo is literally the best thing i've ever heard

[@residentsimon9921]

if i had to choose a username out of any of the demos it'd be this one

[@residentsimon9921]

wait

[@Alexplains.]

I love your profile picture sm oh my god

[@residentsimon9921]

@@Alexplains. I am aware I have an effect on people

[@latedawns1797]

But you’re Simon?

[@residentsimon9921]

@@latedawns1797 your truly!

[@tencolorpen]

1:37 slaps so hard

[@PJones-rq7xe]

Also 3:02

[@Pingyoping]

Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was an isle unto myself I had a heart I hadn't felt Why would it hurt me Or was it real It was the day I had to part I was afraid to miss my heart What did it matter Why did it matter Or would I feel Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a victim of magic Apollo catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow I followed thinking aloud without hearing the sound When all the planets fall to dust Lonely departing after us Gone not forgotten Long but forgotten In every element of life Love camouflages under strife or other matters Not only matter let there be more Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known Maybe we'll tango tomorrow The sorrow sweeping us off as our mother replies Suddenly everything flowing Like water clearer than all we can see with thine eyes Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive? Why do murderous animals survive? Why do I deserve to be revived ? Why are any or all of us alive?

[@Pingyoping]

Not sure if they're saying "Blinding shining star", or "Blind a shining star" so I'm going to stick with the finished lyrics on that part.

[@ekkabee1619]

Its "Blinding shining star"

[@invisiblescout]

2:37 "Blind a shining star He won't see so far" At least that's what it sounds like to me.

[@ekkabee1619]

@@invisiblescout Joe often changes the lyrics around in demos such as in aristotles denial so i guess youre not wrong :/

[@wetoddedd]

I thought it was "Like a shining star", but in the normal version it was "Blinding Shining Star"

[@qokl8skeight]

The final version took my mind on a journey, but this demo version brought tears to my eyes!

[@Jahtso]

I'm pleased to see other people are moved by Hawaii Part 2 content as well

[@nedac2499]

@@Jahtso it’s soooo good

[@FinMP4]

the "I was a victim of magic, apollo." sounds WAYYYY better in this version 1:37

[@naps_878]

there's something about it that just sounds... heavenly.

[@FinMP4]

@@naps_878 they cooked on that one they should have kept it in

[@jeffersonbrent6989]

The part at 1:50 is musical ice cream

[@MichaelTurner856]

Truer words have never been spoken

[@personthatsreal]

I like this more than the complete version. It's more tally hall than miracle musical.

[@ashtonybro]

*Having a panic attack due to how different it is*

[@user-nm1fd3in4i]

did you listen to the time machine one?

[@lampyridae3280]

try the original spring and the storm demo... the one with the garage flooding

[@thedeliveryboy1123]

OC: i had a panic attack because this is way more different than the other one the two guys above me: *cool listen to the others*

[@ghostlamp3482]

that pixel-y part MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM yes

[@lj_fin827]

two trucks having sex

[@landon3137]

@@lj_fin827 the founding fathers cry

[@inverted_paradox4170]

Two trucks

[@m3b02]

two trucks *holding hands*

[@CaribouGutSludge]

@@m3b02 the passion, the passion, more than I can withstand

[@_scientistjeongyeon]

1:38 this version goes so hard mannn I wish it had this vibe in the original

[@whyamitomato]

i LOVE the "I was a victim of magic, Apollo *ding*" I CANT EXPLIAN IT

[@badmerbonks6548]

I like how in the demos for Hawaii ptii the story of the album seems more clearer to understand

[@Z01nkScoobs]

You know I am glad he went with the final one because it feels like in this version he doesn't time his lyrics right and he forgets them.

[@darkofalltraits9149]

Well it is a demo so it doesn't have to be perfect. Just needs to get the sound right. But yeah I agree.

[@Jahtso]

I don't know if this is possible but if Tally Hall made merch I would buy it. I wish I heard of them years before, I only found them a few months ago and really love everything Hawaii Part 2 related

[@adrienfoisy9448]

I found them probably at around the same time as you if the comment says the right time. Anyways, I fully agree

[@themadscarecrow288]

You don't need merch, just buy a single-colir tie and white dress shirt. For this album, get a black shirt instead

[@NotSpyral]

Tally hall did have a limited time shirt in 2016

[@desiredream9861]

@@tuser8 did the miracle musical hat stop being sold? i got one but its bent and i need to roll it with a lint roller lol

[@desiredream9861]

@@tuser8 yea, i could probably just bend it back into place. i swore that it was being sold like a year ago though... maybe my sense of time is skewed. I have the vinyl too, that's how i got it

[@NickGoorgN]

Idk if it’s just me but I think These demos make it seem like they were working on a 3rd album for tally hall but they couldn’t get together fully in one place at the same time so they had to make it a different, independent project.

[@arilololololol]

i mean, they did preform inside the mind of simon together.

[@scribbleincorporated6899]

I love the echo at the end I have idea why

[@nedac2499]

yeah me too

[@r3strt]

Honestly i prefer this version more than the final version, just if it had higher production value it would've been like genuinely something I wish would've been in the final album

[@evavega1652]

Bro really turned into Elvis Presley 💀(not hate I love this demo!)

[@fireninja5669]

I turned into you in the final version, just like murders where I turned into he. just thought that was interesting

[@christopherkimball350]

I think its because all of the album is taking place in the past from the perspective of the singer of the "Windy Songs" that open and close the album

[@hummingbirdspark3998]

In murders, it changes back in the last line like it’s just revealed that it’s about the singer at the end

[@Green-Cop]

"I was a victim of magic apollo catching my breath as i bleed on the ground somebody called me to follow i followed"

[@lemonlemonlemonlemon7494]

maybe we WILL tango tomorrow!

[@latedawns1797]

Nice pfp

[@invadercivic2774]

Hey! I've seen your comments on a bunch of Lemon Demon songs. You have excellent taste in music.

[@beckel3593]

Oh I see you everywhere

[@adrienfoisy9448]

@@invadercivic2774 Me too, and i agree :)

[@PinballWizzerd]

lemon moment

[@could_possiblybe_thane07echo]

I love the harmonies in this version, the normal vocals with all the voices sounds _so_ good 0:17 1:12 2:37 3:40

[@geetee3201]

I honestly like the demo better than the normal one

[@flixtocicgaming3576]

same lol

[@someonesomewheresomehow]

i feel like the album version is a sort of comfort song, while this is a story about a narcissistic man believing he is being hurt by everyone around him and that he is an isle unto himself. also i like this more .)

[@ivan.minaev]

Dude I think you described it perfectly

[@STAR_WALTZ]

why does it sound like if isle unto thyself was fruity 🤨🤨🤨

[@JakkzOfficial]

Real😊

[@krisdreemurr112]

I enjoy this one more than the regular one

[@tencolorpen]

ye wont see so far

[@orsomethingsys_is_here]

WHY IS THIS SUCH A BANGER NO MATTER WHAT 💥💥💥💥 (Isle Unto Thyself is my favorite as well as Dream Sweet in Sea Major) It's clear that they made this song from mostly if not all first person to mostly second person as someone talking about someone else instead of themself which actually is kind of a theme with Miracle Musical vs. Tally Hall Miracle Musical tended to have this second person point of view because the music is written from an outsiders point of view while Tally Hall sounds like first person because it's heavily written in a way where It's the firsthand account of someone who was directly affected I probably sound insane but whatever 💀

[@tabby_013]

Maybe your insane because you killed your girlfriend and pleaded insanity so you got electric shock therapy and then actually became insane. Just a theory…

[@kuro-the-silly]

@@tabby_013 think of these thoughts as limitless light

[@tabby_013]

@@kuro-the-sillyexposing closing circuitry of fright

[@icyfirefish8722]

i have a crush on this song

[@promaster424]

I like the tone of Joe's voice and the music of this version more but I like the lyrics and the fluidity of the final version. Too bad I can't combine them

[@damo9586]

He changed "I" to "You" and and he did that with Murders too

[@Ruxmew]

Si algun dia tengo un hijo le voy a ponerle isle unto thyself (demo) by miracle musical from hawaii part ii part ii

[@CutmanXNZ]

I like to think Hawaii part II was intentioned to be another album from tally hall, the called 3rd album. But as Time passed by the project was passed to another band

[@LemonPartII]

Kinda. Joe Hawley, who kinda lead the idea, went on to make this after Tally Hall because he had the means to do so. He had known he wanted a project like this for years earlier, and suppose he just found his chance. Source: an interview with him in 2019 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pni9dmekjsicbbc)

[@Bagel_B0y]

This is a surreal experience How much inflection and tone can change things The more Hawaiian vibes is interesting and I kinda wish we got more of it in the final album

[@TheNarratorsAccount]

I LOVE HOW AT THE VERY END ITS A MUFFLED PLAYBACK OF ONE PART OF THE SONG

[@clemclemclemclemcl]

1:35 EVERYTIME I LISTEN TO PART LITERAL CHILLS!!!! IM ASCENDING RN

[@congaspy2058]

wish they kept the third chorus.

[@invadercivic2774]

Why am I just now finding these. T-T

[@calculatortismm]

AGH ZUBIN'S HIGH NOTES SUNSSHGETDDTTDGDG

[@lloydmartel]

isle unto myself real

[@alannbt]

amo este album

[@Bruno-lo8oc]

La tiró☝️☝️

[@Victorsandergamer]

também

[@ramune_u]

i think i like the final better than this. it gives the questioning lyrics more of a questioning tone to them and i think the change from "i" to "you" was for the best also "i was a victim of magic apollo" is strangely distant in the final, whereas here its just... there. the instruments i just feel are more flat, i guess they added a little echo in the final. also the final few lyrics having a slower and quieter pace makes them feel more eerie, which i love. but i do like the echo of the song's chorus at the end.

[@SubspacePhighting]

1:37 I said this on another video of these songs but I need to say it on the original song, and its that this part REALLY sounds like a regular tally hall song.

[@spaceghoul8921]

I like this better than the other version

[@Grace.24647]

The yummy little pixely bit is so good omd

[@THECLARENCES]

Brilliance!!! xoxo The Clarences

[@4jezchan]

1:31 this part specifically makes me go to heaven

[@Zeywerks]

i like this one more

[@masonjar510]

1:36 to 1:50 is so good

[@Trying2replacemyself]

1:34 THIS PARTTT NGHHHH

[@Datbigking]

My mind in a test

[@michvanderzant9509]

1:38 & 3:02 are so

[@FreeSisyphus77]

This is disturbingly different. It also sounds like its from Mario 64

[@CarmineTheWho]

This is my manifesto

[@abalt]

hawaii partii 🎉

[@crayonnne]

ONE OF MY FAVORITE DEMOS OF MY FAVORITE H:PII SONG

[@Giovie_HellSush]

is really weird how in this demo simon talk about him being an island whit his gf and not she being cold whit him, is such a big change actually

[@ndrew_B]

0:56 bup bup bup

[@13s_the_number]

1:31 my fav part

[@aster2131]

so good

[@sodacanimations]

to the people around my house: rip neighbors, just kidding, i dont care. enjoy the songs while you can

[@strideryourself]

me when im a fish man this is a prophecy!

[@strideryourself]

cymunn ponirr????????

[@tabby_013]

Joes voice is so *CRISPY* here

[@tatteryt]

1:25 i like the weeo weio weeo part here I cant remember what its called

[@Themindelectric1212]

Synth

[@JCS_666]

We were robbed

[@Let_us_sing_710]

1:37 3:02 las mejores, en mi opinión

[@Whipo0]

I actually like this a bit more

[@ufoteeth.]

BLIND THE SHINING STARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@could_possiblybe_thane07echo]

YOUU WONT SEEE SO FAAAAAAAARRRR

[@ajsvsbznsnzbsnzx]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@joener6968]

WHAT THE FUCK THIS GOES HARD

[@adopted6663]

This song did get a glow up when finalized fs

[@MAKER_SMELLA]

i love this song so much tiurhfhhdhd

[@ThatGuyRNA]

Island for myself

[@dydyvin]

I was a victim of magic Apollo

[@Jupiterr-w7w]

Guh this is so yummy

[@CodySky]

3:02 best part in my opinion

[@BuzzOmen]

❤

[@Beni-d7k]

isle unto myself

[@toastervre]

This version feels so much punchier

[@andrescerceno2538]

1:37

[@NickGoorgN]

Such a shame that drum part wasn’t in the final version

[@RealPlanet.1231]

ey WUZ a victim of majic Apollo catching my breath as I blEd on the grOUnd 🤠

[@nedac2499]

WHY DOES THIS HAVE 8 DISLIKES????????