This is the best comparison and unbiased unlike many youtube "reviewers" . Also hope they tone down the HDR in daylight. I don't see much improvement in jitter in low light.
@TimBrownTown5 күн бұрын
Hey! It looks like D-LogM is now prioritizing faces for exposure! I hope they update the Pocket 3 to do the same!
@GadgetsBoy4 күн бұрын
love how they are frequently doing things to make it better and better
@Dynamics4164 күн бұрын
I think that's a major positive on an already long list from DJI, they constantly do updates and seem to pay attention to feedback to improve.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I’m just hoping the HDR look can be toned down a bit in the next update, but in D-Log M the footage looks really good.
@SkingleyJoseph4 күн бұрын
@@TamaraGabrielUK Drop a OSMo Action 5 pro best settings on your newsletter site
@StringerBell3 күн бұрын
Actually they didn;t do anything. The Bitrate update has no obvious quality improvement and it's very subtle. They actually didn't address any of the issues Tamara had bringed up on the release date.
@ALEXESCOBAR2154 күн бұрын
If you completely turn off noise, reduction and sharpness, it helps a lot with the footage. Also, the new update helped with the jitters with the footage at night.
@EternalArrow4 күн бұрын
FW updates is a good thing, but i didn't notice any difference at all. Looks almost identically.
@7erdogdu7 сағат бұрын
Probably thats why they didnt have it from the begining.
@sauliuslag4 күн бұрын
I practically didn't notice a difference between the old and the new update, even when the bit rate is higher in the new one. Except for a few shots in the dark. But anyway thanks for test comparison.
@biohazard20305 күн бұрын
I definitely noticed a difference with the slower shutter speeds. I mainly focused on the background which is where I was seeing a lot of the ghosting/jitters. With the new firmwear it looks greatly reduced. I want to test mine out shooting in manual at 1/50 with an ND filter outdoors and see if I notice a difference.
@BenStimpsonAuthor5 күн бұрын
Thankyou for letting us know! I got my Action 5 last week and havn't had chance to use it due to projects piled up that needed working on. Will download now!
@babyboy19714 күн бұрын
I’m actually really enjoying the Action 5 Pro. I’m finding it a great companion to my pocket 3. Your night footage in normal (non super night) with minimum shutter at 1/100 looks fantastic and ZERO jitter. I’ve found similar results in my own testing. 1/100-1/8000 and 25000 ISO gives the best night footage. They did improve super night a bit but it’s still not enough. Especially with the Ace Pro 2 dropping. I will say I did a huge test in daylight since the firmware update. My findings were similar to yours. Footage in D-Log M looks great. Regular footage, details and foliage seem improved but that HDR effect is still there. I think they went overboard with the “13 stops of dynamic range“. But if you recall, the Ace Pro 1 had permanent HDR on until they fixed it in a firmware update. They’ll fix this one. One thing I did also fine was that it seems to be worse for just a second or two when you move from shadow to light and then the camera adjusts itself really nicely. It just takes a second for the exposure to adjust, which to be fair, happens in pretty much every camera when in auto. Keep up the good work, I love your tests! Don’t give up on this camera. I think they have yet to fully get the most out of that new Qualcomm chip. They have barely tapped it.
@Marian1st.5 күн бұрын
Looks better. More light in the dark. Thanks for posting this comparison video.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
You’re welcome.
@IanTed5 күн бұрын
Getting there but still prefer my OA4, small increments but I’m sure they’ll get there as usual.
@theGameR-ek9pe4 күн бұрын
shall one get OA4 instead of OA5 pro and save 119 USD ?🎉
@2fast2fpv4 күн бұрын
@@theGameR-ek9pe OA5 has it's benefits if you're gonna be shooting in lowlight. Also future firmware updates will make it better as DJI always does, so it's up to you what you think is worth
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
Even in daylight, the OA5 is better. It exposes shadows much better than the OA4, which crushes shadows.
@costas801live4 күн бұрын
@@theGameR-ek9pe yes
@jasper59454 күн бұрын
in no situation the OA4 is better, unless youre upgrading from 4 to 5, if you're from other ecosystem like gopro and want to move to DJI, get the 5
@17cream4 күн бұрын
When comparing the OA4 you said that it retained more detail. Has that changed with the firmware update on the OA5? With increased bit rate you would assume that the two cameras should be equal now
@BlackapinoTheTechGuy4 күн бұрын
*Although I'd never use Low Light even though I live in Alaska and during the Winter it's dark most of the Time I just shoot where there's lots of light anyways, BUT At least I know what the results would be*
@mat-ventures4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparisons. The footage looks more bright (in low light) on the one with the update, as you can see at 6:50
@phong67244 күн бұрын
they simply increased the video brightness a bit, this is not a physical factor
@jer30065 күн бұрын
Great comparison video that, by the time it reached my monitor, showed very little difference before and after. I appreciate the commenters with sharper eyes that identified any specific improvements. Thank you for posting this information to help with the update process and the review.
@costas801live4 күн бұрын
I have both 4 and 5 only shooting in dlog m in auto mode , Action 4 has 100-200 iso in auto mode no hdr and less noise reduction in -2 .Action 5 has 100-800 and tends to pumb the iso to 800 , , ,more noise reduction and hdr on top ....that makes it look mudy
@isavkov5 күн бұрын
I… really don’t see a huge difference between the normal and high bitrate options. I have updated my OA5 and to be honest it’s the same
@BemandYangOfficial4 күн бұрын
small difference in the supernight but the trees in the background still looks the same...
@leeyandro_captures5 күн бұрын
i bought my 2nd action 4 2days ago, and i was like dang they just released new firmware upd on OA5 then when i watched your vid. im glad i made the right decision 😂
@thurber_shots3 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the update here. Super Night Mode looks equally as bad with the new update, unfortunately and that was the main reason I went with DJI Osmo Action Pro 5 over GoPro to begin with. In all of my experiments it drags light trails and makes the footage unusable, I can see it doing the same here.
@independentmind63454 күн бұрын
I used to have those purplish skies, but then figured out how to get rid of it. EV -0.7
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I usually set mine at -0.3EV, unless it's a really bright day when I use an ND filter.
@independentmind63454 күн бұрын
@@QuicknStraight ND filter might actually be better, that way you can keep the overall image a bit brighter.
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
@@independentmind6345 I live in the Philippines... Midday sun can be crazy bright, so an ND is a must!
@IbbySS.5 күн бұрын
For the low shutter rates, it looks like it's still visible but it has been improved ever slow slightly
@zooskifilmsКүн бұрын
Thanks for the video. What bit rate do you export at for uploading to YT? Cheers!
@MarinusMakesStuff2 күн бұрын
The old supernight on the left looks so much better, around 2:50 it's really clear. Much more detail, better white balance. In the other shots the new firmware does look a bit better though. And in daylight it's also clear, there it more detail and less artifacts.
@jamesh64114 күн бұрын
The jitters in low light with the slower shutter speed improved with the new firmware. Daylight did not show any real difference. Hope they come out with a setting to reduce the HDR look and bring back a more natural sky and clouds.
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
I don't think the Normal Mode daylight footage is as bad as people make out. And in the dark, I'm using a gimbal and turning off EIS and the footage is much cleaner because the muddiness caused by the EIS is neutralised. And I live in the Philippines, where it's often blindingly bright and sunny, so ND filters are a must.
@johnsojourn91144 күн бұрын
Nice comparison! New firmware looks to have a bit less compression, bit more noise reduction smoothness, less reds, less blues, more yellow and a touch more brightness. It's subtle but interesting to see.
@TechMindsOfficial4 күн бұрын
Thank you Tamara!
@RonaldBrown594 күн бұрын
I didn't see much difference after the update. But I'm glad the low-bit rate controversy is now over. Great video, and thanks for sharing.
@awilderireland4 күн бұрын
I still have the original Osmo. I think if I was going to upgrade I would snap up the Osmo 4. Yes the 5 might be fixed in updates. But...
@kess4104 күн бұрын
looks good. if you get a chance please make a video sharing with us how you grade the d log footage. thank you.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I’ll share a video at some point.
@terryrccrazy69934 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information and testing
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
You’re welcome.
@conradk4 күн бұрын
To me, it looks like DJI added some blur to reduce the low light jitter. The scene most noticeable where you are walking away from the parking area (white sign, blue P).
@trym21214 күн бұрын
That sounds like ace pro. Blur in lowlight
@JeffCDollente4 күн бұрын
If you really wanna see a difference between 8bit and 10bit, shoot waterfalls or a fast moving stream 😊
@CanuckQuest2 күн бұрын
I always appreciate your videos. Thank you.
@the_fitrider4 күн бұрын
Low light D-log M difference is quite noticeable. Thanks for sharing this video. 👍🏻
@Luidoly3 күн бұрын
Hi Tamara: Love the comparison, but honestly they can keep the High Bit Rate in the closet where it belongs, I have done extensive testing since updating and cannot see any difference between standard and HBR. using the inspector on the QuickTime player on the Mac, standard setting runs about 48-51 Mb/sec, and the HBR usually runs 87-90 Mb/sec, I don't think that improve the image so much, I may be wrong but I don't see it. Even using it in fast moving scenes. Thanks, Luis
@MainJet1584 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video, I was looking forward to your opinion and test results. No difference that I can see even in my own testing. I still like the Action 4 in the normal color profile for sunny daytime action videos. Easy to use and no color correction needed in most cases.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
💯
@Savagehunter214 күн бұрын
i am a non techy commerce post graduate and i think Firmware update for improving photo video quality is a gimmick...only time this update looks promising when in dark corridor she was walking there the diff appeared ❤
@The.JZA.4 күн бұрын
Sweet! I'll update my 5 pro when I get home.
@monetarnie38414 күн бұрын
Tamara Gabriel for president!
@seanndemafeliz09224 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video Tamara! Can you also make a video on what are your recommended settings for the OA5Pro? Both for normal colour profile and DLOG-M? Much thanks!
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I’ll share at some point.
@traver4 күн бұрын
I wonder how much the higher bit rate will affect the 🦇🌲?
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Hahaha! 😆 I see you’ve watched a previous video where I talked about 🦇🌳
@traver4 күн бұрын
@@TamaraGabrielUK lol , big fan of your work
@韓日男2 сағат бұрын
6:45 I found it different, it work in D log m well, because it is for PRO
@sachin43654 күн бұрын
Ya it is slightly better after firmware update 👍
@simonwyndham3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately most of the action cameras now use tone mapping for their standard colour profiles. The Natural profile on the HERO13 is very harsh on skin tones in contrasty conditions, particularly when backlit against the sun. I agree that there should be an option to turn it on and off, or better still have an Off, Low, Med, High setting for it.
@berhanarisoy3 күн бұрын
Süreyya hanımın muhteşem değişimi gibi olmuş sevgili Tamara 😂
@Spyder2010ify5 күн бұрын
Ich erkenne beim besten Willen keinen Unterschied, die Farben meiner OA4 sind besser.
@justfishing9am4 күн бұрын
Are you recording in horizon balance ?
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
No, RockSteady.
@thomashorner71414 күн бұрын
is it possible to use this for macro or close work ? what is the minimum focus distance ? would you say the action 4 is still producing a better picture are there any benefits to the action other than the bigger screen ?
@phong67244 күн бұрын
6:43 location of the burned out billboard, right side
@gafiews4 күн бұрын
Very good comparison, but in this firmware I don't like when I press record video and the screen dims 3 times every 10 seconds.
@Luidoly3 күн бұрын
That is because you have selected NEVER when to turn off when filming, set the time to 5 min or 10 min and the dimming will disappear, DJI IS DOING THAT TO IMPROVE BATTERY LIFE. anyway it is rare that you constantly shoot clips that last longer than 5 min very frequently, for each scene. Hope this helps, I noticed the same problem, after the firmware update. Thanks Luis
@gafiews3 күн бұрын
@@Luidoly Thank you very much, I will use the method you suggested. Great job.
@voizetvsl4 күн бұрын
should do drone shot or mount on vehicle .Then we can see how new firmware affects bitrate issue
@petrub274 күн бұрын
normal profile still looks bad, but dlog m is fab
@IamJay4 күн бұрын
In an average eye it doesn't have any significant difference. DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro and Hero 13 black are best action camera as of this moment. I choose OA5 because of price difference and the battery life and other features that is not present in the Hero 13 Black.
@17cream8 сағат бұрын
Needs an even higher bit rate, the processor has the capacity
@CarlosRomero-db4mx4 күн бұрын
BUT IN SETTINGS IT SAYS THAT ONLY THE HIGH BIT RATE IS AVAILABLE IN SUPER NIGHT AND SLOW MOTION. DOES IT APPLY FOR THE NORMAL VIDEO??
@TheMatsunami4 күн бұрын
@@CarlosRomero-db4mx it also says VIDEO so yes!
@CarlosRomero-db4mx4 күн бұрын
@@TheMatsunami THANK YOU
@airrik845 күн бұрын
Not sure if it’s better or worse 🤷🏻♂️
@stormerneo22444 күн бұрын
What did you use to convert the DLog-m to Rec.709?
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Final Cut Pro.
@haroonvlogs54375 күн бұрын
Much better look with osmo action 4 if I am honest . The sky looks like very very over processed in OA 5 . I bought the OA4 and I think I will keep that as it’s much better and mature predict while OA5 they still trying to figure it out .
@TamaraGabrielUK5 күн бұрын
Yeah, the Osmo Action 4 is still awesome.
@IanTed5 күн бұрын
I’m holding back too, still prefer the OA4 but I’m sure they’ll get there, we are the test crew sadly as with a lot of great DJI kit including my new NEO drone.
@allenmovies4 күн бұрын
I really hope they can tone down that HDR look in the next update. Or make it so that its a feature that people can turn on & off.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
💯
@sutv67544 күн бұрын
Do you know Tamara, Can a person have just auto shutter speed? I can on my gopro but I don't think I can on my action 5. I wish I could. Please let me know if you know.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Yes, it’s auto when the camera is set to auto exposure
@sutv67544 күн бұрын
@@TamaraGabrielUK well of course. I’m talking about being able to put the camera on only automatic shutter speed like the GoPro. You can do that. It seems like with the action five it’s either full auto or just auto ISO. Like the GoPro I want to have only auto shutter speed.
@EmexBeatzКүн бұрын
love it
@rubbergames50855 күн бұрын
anyone know why when i record on normal and d-log, my videos look a bit shaky. i’m normally walking and it looks like the video sensor is shaking. like the video looks like it’s vibrating. this happens to my gopro9. maybe it’s some kind of settings i’m doing?
@TamaraGabrielUK5 күн бұрын
Do you have RockSteady on?
@rubbergames50855 күн бұрын
@@TamaraGabrielUK yes, i’m not even running, biking or anything. i’m just walking. and when im standing still and i spin 90° to record to my left. my video vibrates
@RESISTAGE12 сағат бұрын
whers the difference ? if difference is barely noticeable then it wasn't worth mentioning .
@deshr85412 күн бұрын
I can see that the update has removed the cartoonish HDR effect when shooting in low light.
@TamaraGabrielUK2 күн бұрын
Yeah, definitely reduced it. The more I've tested the low light footage since this video as well, the more I see how much better SuperNight is in the right situation.
@MaxCorner114 күн бұрын
do fast movements like riding a motorcycle and you'll see the differences.
@EditioCastigata4 күн бұрын
How so? Did anything appreciably improve?
@MaxCorner114 күн бұрын
@@EditioCastigata yes there is. the road, especially the edges were more detailed compared to the old firmware. even in fast movements images were detailed. especially the trees. the leaves were more detailed this time and the contrast is way better.
@EditioCastigata3 күн бұрын
@@MaxCorner11 Thank you! I’ll update it then, as cyclist.
@MaxCorner113 күн бұрын
@@EditioCastigata you're welcome!
@chemareasalbaticiei4 күн бұрын
I cannot belive this "new" and "pro" camera is worst than previous one (action 4) i regret buying it...if i owned dji company i will fire the entire development team and the team who's working on image quality and algorithm...
@costas801live4 күн бұрын
100% i have both 4 and 5 4 is so much better in all mods
@mondodaftasabrush4 күн бұрын
So pleased I am not the only one whom regrets buying the 5 and still prefer my original osmo action so small and light weight . I have old tech and need the latest M chip to edit on light cut as I need a larger screen cannot edit on mobile phones
@chemareasalbaticiei4 күн бұрын
@@mondodaftasabrush i edit A5 footage on my phone... i struggle alot but in the end it's fine... 😅
@priyalraj285Күн бұрын
I hope you see this. After the update, my video are getting rec at 50k bitrate instead of 80k, in the old one I was able to rec at 80k bitrate, but after the bitrate, it's messed up.
@Ohmverse5 күн бұрын
I have to admit…in a fair number of those instances it is difficult to spot the differences. Updated mine last night, but won’t get to test it until later today. Looking forward to it though. Thank you for what you do 🙏🖖
@Riskirustian4 күн бұрын
The same as the insta360 ace pro.
@EamonMcMullan74 күн бұрын
It's hard for me to understand why a company like DJI can put out a camera like this with a normal color profile that is so weird, meaning way too much saturation on the normal color profile. Anyone with white skin who has some color (reddness) in their cheeks, the normal color profile completely blows it up turning their face into a gaint tomato, as well as over doing it on the HDR look around trees and buildings.
@afshark63194 күн бұрын
yeah, in all these new comparison videos the magenta tint and HDR oversaturation looks awful on the action 5!
@EditioCastigata4 күн бұрын
We don’t know how much they depend on Qualcomm’s software, from whom the new chipset is.
@EamonMcMullan73 күн бұрын
I tested the Osmo Action 5 more today in the normal color profile and D log M and I really do not like the whole HDR look . Decided I'm sending the camera back, the footage is unusable.
@ramlinz59534 күн бұрын
So you guys want - daylight clarity on dark night shooting? Be sensible and accept the fact.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
Who said they wanted daylight clarity on night footage? 👀
@BartvanderHorst5 күн бұрын
My screen dims every 10 seconds until I see almost nothing while recording... dang
@Luidoly3 күн бұрын
Hi: The reason is that in the settings of TURNING OFF THE SCREEN WHEN RECORDING YOU have set it to NEVER, just change it to 5 or 10 min and the dimming will disappear, DJI IS TRYING TO SAVE BATTERY, I had the same problem when I updated the firmware to the latest. Thanks Luis
@lynsmith10965 күн бұрын
Looked very the same
@TamaraGabrielUK5 күн бұрын
Yeah, I can’t see a huge difference
@DanF27675 күн бұрын
DJI is going to suffer as from tomorrow I think , 95 % of users are not interested in D-log, they want quality out of the box. Let’s see if Insta 360 Ace Pro 2 listened to that 95 %.
@ThomasJeffersonWolfcall-kn3bx4 күн бұрын
You know what they say, chili today; hot tamale.
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
The Ace Pro 2 is likely to cost $499 for the standard kit, which is almost 50% more expensive than the Action 5. I, for one, would never consider spending 500 bucks on an action camera.
@DanF27674 күн бұрын
@@QuicknStraight in the USA 399 USD I think , In Europe around 449 euro. Action 5 pro is indeed cheaper but the Action 4 is even cheaper now and also still good.
@Sirinealameddine4 күн бұрын
All my videos on youtube shot by iphone
@edc641Күн бұрын
No one talks about how the osmo performs in webcam mode 😞
@TamaraGabrielUKКүн бұрын
I might do a live stream to demo it.
@edc641Күн бұрын
@@TamaraGabrielUK I'd be forever grateful! 🙂
@demexvidea4 күн бұрын
…hope that DJI will fix ugly cartoon hdr look in normal mode and I really don’t like light or sun flares. Insta and gopro make flares much better.
@alekpap-trailers4 күн бұрын
I don`t see anything! the same picture!
@droneetrandonnees57505 күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌
@grumpygrandpa36404 күн бұрын
Personally I don’t see any difference at all maybe a tiny bit but nothing to write home about
@haico19922 күн бұрын
Night mode is still shit, thank!
@TamaraGabrielUK2 күн бұрын
Haha, you’re welcome!
@EyeOfEddie4 күн бұрын
Don’t see any difference, to be honest. Disappointed.
@stephenwilliams19034 күн бұрын
The Action 5 pro, is very disappointing!! Not only is the new firmware update unnoticeable in terms of image quality due to bitrate differences in some instances, but also this new firmware update changed the battery time tremendously, but also created a overheating problem as well.. Sorry friends, I’m not that persuasive to overlook what was marketed, as oppose to what’s really being offered.. I know some are very loyal to. DJI, I respect that, so please respect my difference of opinion.. Have a great day all 🙏
@MC-no8iq5 күн бұрын
hi
@TamaraGabrielUK5 күн бұрын
👋🏾
@Vewpoint4 күн бұрын
Sorry but the image on action 5 it’s a crap; In the borders the image inflates, I buy one and I tell crap action 4 have better image in day light and the insta 360 ace pro 90% better than that crap camera
@warmachine6764 күн бұрын
Looks like new firmware has sharpness issue in night mode.
@chelssycasals2 күн бұрын
Hi everyone, I want to switch to dji from a go pro hero 11. I'm still torn between choosing the osmo action 4 or the 5. Will future firmware updates resolve the muddy resolution problem of the action 5? Or should I just buy the action 4 since I prefer its quality more? The difference in their adventure combos is just $122 here so money's not a problem. I just want to know if the action 5's issues can be fixed 🥹
@OSCARNGUYEN684 күн бұрын
Dji 5pro lần này cập nhật bản mới quá tệ. Không thấy sự khác biệt gì cả. Quá tệ
@JESUS_CHRIST_US4 күн бұрын
PHI 4 STILL BETAH
@jpyuce20545 күн бұрын
The footage still sucks...nothing change still halo arround trees und buildings. At sunny days the sky still looks like comic movie
@QuicknStraight4 күн бұрын
Dial EV down to -0.3 or -0.7. It makes a big difference.
@TamaraGabrielUK4 күн бұрын
@QuicknStraight I always have the EV at -0.3 or -0.7.
@travelwithpeace14 күн бұрын
@jpyuce2054 I don't know what you're complaining about, but in comparison to GoPro that I am using when it comes to night or low light, the dji is miraculous and absolutely amazing. I'm seriously considering dumping GoPro for good and go for the dji asmo pro 5.
@skingleyjoseph54024 күн бұрын
@@travelwithpeace1 get the action 5 pro I switched from GoPro Hero 12 action 5 pro is waaay better
@trym21214 күн бұрын
Huh? Which time stamp? Are you watching the video at min 1080p or let KZbin chose the resolution for you?
@MountainMoo4 күн бұрын
am I the one that realize the old firmware is better in supernight😅
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