Tamiya Avante 2011 Brushless Set Up...

[@steveblackbird]

I just built one of these 2011 Re-Re's. Fitted a Technigold motor with a 60amp brushed ESC. 2S. Put some cheap Aliexpress buggy wheels and took it out for a maiden last week. 37kph. Handled so well I smiled ear to ear. It was a "by the book" builds..used vernier calipers to measure the turnbuckles that's how serious I went. I have quite the collection of RC's that are current..Arrma Felony, Arrma Typhon 6s V5, Traxxas X-Maxx and XRT and a bunch of others. The sheer Joy driving the Avante (My first Tamiya in 34 years!) was enough to get the Tamiya bug again. I have a Tamiya Porsche 959 on the way (My dream RC from when I was young) and bidding on another new built 959 right now. I've missed these cars. Yeah...addictions are tough. Cheers for the vid!!

[@andysmith5152]

nice to see them going not just on a shelf

[@TAMIYALegends]

Andy Smith Yeah this one takes quite a few beatings 🚗💨💨

[@LifeSized101]

Brushless combo recommendation currently ?

[@mattridge5986]

I'm not into shelf queen's Glen. But if I could I'd have 1 off these, stunning bits of kit.

[@Leonsrchobbys]

Very my friend its going to be quick😎😊👍🇬🇧

[@TAMIYALegends]

Leons rc hobbys It certainly was buddy 😊 🚗💨💨

[@hyperdude4821]

Your vids are seriously TOP END!!!!💪💪

[@TAMIYALegends]

Hyperdude Thanks buddy I appreciate that 😊👊🏻

[@gaz1967]

Great vid Glenn, you never know what needs sorting out until you give it a run. The new tyres do give it a nice look though.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Gary Rawlins Yeah I really like the look of the car with those wheels and tyres buddy 👊🏻

[@VoidXRC]

Cool man nice work

[@TAMIYALegends]

Void X RC Thanks man 👊🏻

[@angelogandolfo6374]

How can you tell if the Centre Diff is tight enough or too lose, please?? Thank you!

[@TAMIYALegends]

It’s not adjustable unfortunately 😤

[@fabrizioviscardi40]

Impressive video!

[@TAMIYALegends]

fabrizio viscardi Thanks buddy 👊🏻

[@wholespeed]

Hey Glenn what type of tyres were you running on those aftermarket rims?

[@operation11charlieinc]

Awesome brother like Always 👍🙏

[@TAMIYALegends]

11CHARLIE RC Thanks man 👊🏻

[@operation11charlieinc]

@@TAMIYALegends 🙏👍✌🤙

[@Bandit-Darville]

This. This is actually my unicorn. It was my first hobby grade RC and had to grab all the savings i had at the time at 14 years old to acquire this. Adjusted for inflation i'd reckon a solid 1500-1750 bucks. Dollar, Pound, Euro, whatever. Back then i had it upgraded to an ESC, 18 turns Topaz motor and it ran on 7 cells. NICD or NIMH, i'm not sure anymore. The thing was too fast for what i could handle at the time and eventually i couldn't afford the replacement parts anymore and traded it in. These days i'd really like to have it back but only if it is this exact version and not the upcoming limited edition black one. And they're still asking a cool 500 bucks for these, which is insane in my opinion. Some things never change i guess.. But cool that you have one man; I wonder what the top speed will be on this brush-less setup. In my child mind back then, i recall it reaching or exceeding 80 KPH/50MPH. Cheers man, take care of her.

[@BasBoyRC]

Cool, super fast.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Bas Boy RC Yeah the setup is a bit quick but I needed to see how it would be, first Avante I’ve actually run hard 😬😬😬

[@johnjosey5184]

Glenn, just thinking out loud here but is it possible to fit the top force wheels and tyres just to get a straight out comparison ? If nothing else, it'll give you a base line from which to work your magic. You could even take it one step further by fitting the avante ones to your top force. Or it could just be my OCD 🙈

[@TAMIYALegends]

John Josey Yeah I did have a play with different wheels and tyres buddy. In the tarmac videos that are coming I settled for the TRF dished wheels on the dual block tyres, they ran really well 😊 But on the gravel I went with the Avante set up 👊🏻🚗💨💨

[@BullyBoxer]

You know back in the day Glenn when we used to race we used to run the diffs and drive shafts dry with zero grease , most people thought it made it faster . Obviously I’m talking the late 80s there were no brushless set up back then lol

[@TAMIYALegends]

CiganoBoxer Wow that’s an interesting fact buddy. That’s the first I’ve heard of it. Suppose it makes sense when you’re racing to try get any extra advantage you can. Thanks for watching 👊🏻

[@KaizerTest]

Nice brushless setup. I have a Boomerang that I put one of these cheap brushless systems in and I run it on 7.2v and get 35 mph/56kph. On a 5000 mah battery it get a pretty long run time as well. The vid of it running is on my channel. I may try a 3s in it just for fun...hahahaha.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Kaizer Test Excellent buddy I’ll have a look 😎👊🏻

[@Joe_Hutchinson513]

I am a huge fan and love all of your videos. I enjoy watching and listening to your video playlists while I'm on the road trucking to keep me entertained. This is just constructive criticism but I have a hard time hearing the sound in your videos , I have to turn my volume on my bluetooth speaker to 100% and I can still barely hear you, when I'm at home I have to turn the volume on my TV up all the way. Maybe you can turn up the recording volume on your future videos for us, it would be very helpful. Thank you for all your hard work!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Joe Hutchinson Thanks for telling that buddy, I’ve not had anyone else say anything but I’ll have a look at that and see if I can improve it 😎 And thanks for your support 👊🏻

[@becca6791]

Nice bro I'm building an abisma 2.4at she going brushless goal speed will it 70 mph to start with

[@TAMIYALegends]

becca 70mph Dammmmm that’s fast! The quickest I’ve been so far is 54mph and I thought that was fast lol 😂. Good luck with you speed tests 😊👊🏻

[@becca6791]

@@TAMIYALegends 54 mpn that's very quick for a tammy an ye the other half she dont like my hobby so iv tell her its cheap lol sa e costs imuse her KZbin lol

[@BeardedRC]

I have just literally bought this combo for my Baja Champ

[@TAMIYALegends]

Bearded RC You won’t be disappointed buddy, there great value for money 🚗💨💨

[@STEVOD313]

Looks good Glen, im on the fence about putting a brushless in mine, might keep it stock motor

[@TAMIYALegends]

STEVO D 313 Yeah I know exactly what you mean buddy. That kit motor on 2s is perfect for that chassis in my opinion 🚗💨💨

[@La_motavation]

you can always change the turn of the motor i believe its a 17t-20t for the tamiya torque tuned. you can stay brushed just go for a 13t or 15t

[@TheUsmc0802]

I run a Brushless in my Egress , the gearbox and chassis can handle it! Do it!

[@dillonbuttner2114]

Looks like a skyrc leopard combo about 55USD. But then again I think a couple people use orange cans although not alot. It's funny I was looking at this combo moments b4 I watched this great video I cant wait to see some real dialed in speed runs.. i believe that combo could handle 3s.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Dillon Buttner Hi buddy, Yeah it’s just a cheap combo, but it runs great tbh, it’s never missed a beat. Takes 3s without any trouble too 😊👊🏻

[@paulwright1016]

Can you give a link of what brushless setup you have and where to buy thanks

[@TAMIYALegends]

Paul Wright Something like this Paul ⬇️ www.ebay.ca/itm/353102505750

[@y1ano]

This is great , I do wonder though why use a cheap brushless system ? I’d like to see a high end brushless system in a high end car . Maybe a series of videos highlighting the component failures and modifications when the chassis is really pushed hard ? Anyway as always great stuff glen !

[@TAMIYALegends]

John Georgiou Hi John, Yeah I only own two Brushless combo sets and the other one is way too hot tbh. The majority of my running videos are using Brushed motors which I enjoy. As you say maybe I need to invest in a lower kv higher end setup 🤔 Thanks for your comment buddy 👊🏻

[@MrBezbezik]

Top top top! Do the gears hold up well with being brushless and going lipo? Looks like the same system I have in my ECX Ruckus and it's a violent one on 2s lol. Keep it up man.........I can see my Monster Beetle going the same way, woohooooo!!

[@TAMIYALegends]

43 : RC It runs epic on 2s, although it makes that centre diff really busy 😬 I also ran it on 3s but just to see how fast it would go on tarmac 🚗💨💨

[@MrBezbezik]

@@TAMIYALegends It's a wonder they didn't turn molten!!! Fantastic stuff mate!!

[@zackthebongripper7274]

Glue them tires up buddy and give it another run ;) Let us know how she runs then. I read that for some reason the center diff has to be tightened when using modern wheels and tires. Can you confirm?

[@TAMIYALegends]

Zack TheBongRipper I don’t think there’s much adjustment on the centre diff tbh buddy?

[@Zeros_Hobbies]

Very interesting combo. Idk if the classics were designed with the future brushless in mind. BTW how many avantes do you have.lol

[@TAMIYALegends]

ZERO'S HOBBIES Right now I have none 😞 But I’ve had quite a few over the years 😊👊🏻

[@KyzerGB]

Seems fast. But I've always thought that putting a brushless motor in a nylon gear set and diffs would not last as long as my arrma and traxxas .

[@TAMIYALegends]

KyzerGB You’re absolutely spot on buddy 👊🏻

[@Mini-z1994]

Biggest issue with this drivetrain is the center diff/spur combo. Otherwise the gears hold up fairly well if dust can be kept out of them & there aren't too much rough landings under throttle. Though there are parts that locks this center diff which affects how it handles a bit (if you don't look too race this it's fine really.) But makes it a lot more reliable as a full time runner, besides perhaps reinforcing the chassis here & there for jumps.

[@keithrx3c]

Would that be a 9T motor Glenn?

[@TAMIYALegends]

keithrx3c Yeah I believe it was classed as a 9.5 on the box I think 🤔

[@ShenRC]

👍Cool, watch the temps on that finned motor they are not true 540 sized motors they use a smaller 380 sized rotor inside those cans and don't have the power of the normal sized 540 non finned cans do.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Shen RC Thanks buddy 👊🏻

[@drubradley8821]

This may sound backwards ,as per the toe-in and toe-out settings..... please note, none of this is intended to insult your intelligence or experience with off road chassis and suspension setups!!! next, I will explain for this animal, two setups for two points of interest, straight line handling, and then for allot of turns or curves. Going fast and straight is a handful, but, very do-able..... going fast while in a turn or curve, things get out of control very quickly. as you likely already know. You can take away a little bit of the better handling aspects from the "fast and straight" and tune the car to handle much better in the turns, but starts to become less stable in the straight aways. mentally, going fast and straight, is easier due to, well, you are going in a straight line, but the curves or turns, requires all sorts of efforts and quick reaction times, so to balance that out a bit, lets play with the toe-in and toe-out, for both the front and rear... (Yes, the rubber wheels ,as I think you call them, we in the USA call them tires, lol). For a track that has allot of curves or turns, the front will have toe-out, maybe 1 to 2 degrees per side and the rear wheels will have toe-in by 1 to 2 degrees. This is especially great in soil and clay tracks and is many times how I would rocket past my fellow racers, pulling past them in the turns. but I would kinda suffer in the straight away areas of the track. For a track that has more straight away areas then turns or the track has wide long turns or curves, the front will have toe-in of a half a degree to 1 degree per side and the rear will have nothing greater then 1 to 2 degrees of toe-out... and often times, 0 to 1 degree will be fine, for most cases. On pavement or black top roadways for parking lots etc... do understand, it will chew up the rubber tires treads a bit... but, small price to pay, to do 40 mph in a 15 foot wide turns.... LOL I hope that helps, if you didn't already know... Side note, the rear toe-in and toe-out can only be adjust so far, due to the design and is time consuming to do so, but the journey is so worth it... heck, you are playing with a legendary unit... Thanks for the update...

[@Zeros_Hobbies]

Dude thank you for this ive been bothered by toe in toe out degree for years!!!!

[@drubradley8821]

@@Zeros_Hobbies I think I should mention, this also works for the on-road type cars as well, as long as they are 4WD!!!! But, the on-road chassis that are 4WD, are an absolute pain in the bootie to dial in, due to the much higher percentage of sprung weighted traction, due from a smoother track conditions, vs. off road chassis... which typically only have 2 wheels touching the ground at any given moment, due to the rough terrain ... none the less, same configuration methodology of toe-in and toe-out. Good luck... On a side note... gust so you see the extreme difference... set the toe-in's and toe-out's to their maximum, then run the car a lap or 5... then reverse the toe-in's and toe-out's the other direction to the maximum and run a few passes... then just so you can see how they handle on the straight aways ,vs the turns and see how hard you can push into the turns before loss of control... or how fast you can get back on the throttle, maybe at half way into the turn, 3.4's into the turn... or hopefully, just power all the way through. That is for you and your track conditions to figure out... likewise, if you find a sweet spot while playing in a paved or tarmac parking lot, that does not mean it will offer the same corning capability once you get your rigs onto the dirt track, and will likely require a bit of tuning again, to get the push, just right for that location, again.... LOL... that is why I always loved the AVANTE... it never failed to keep me entertained... and challenged ,none the less... Good luck...

[@TAMIYALegends]

Dru Bradley Thanks for all the information Dru, it’s much appreciated, I’m pretty much a novice when it comes to different setups so I’ll take all the help I can get 😊 Thanks buddy 👊🏻

[@drubradley8821]

@@TAMIYALegends Just take your time, and enjoy the process.. For giggles sake... they sell G-meters, that you can stick the car, and then you can start graphing the process onto paper... I always wished I could have had such a thing, 20 to 30 years ago... now, they are like $10 bucks from amazon... LOL

[@TAMIYALegends]

Dru Bradley Too be honest I’m that far in front with my videos, this car has actually moved on now, so you’ll have to bare with me if you watch the next ones on the Avante. But you’re advice will definitely be used on all the stuff I’m working on right now buddy 👊🏻

[@bradkalman2353]

Let's see the insanity Glen. I have 6 new videos out.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Brad Kalman Awesome I’ll have to check them out buddy 👊🏻

[@danielkonrad1444]

First, yeah!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Daniel Konrad Love it 😊👊🏻