Tamiya DT-02 MS

[@rcinhand9671]

Hi, Glenn. I know this video is a couple of years old, and don't know if anyone has mentioned this. But, you can adjust the ball diff with it in the car. Just remove the cup with the long pin, and use the tool to tighten while holding the other wheel.

[@NordicRC]

Yeah, it’s a real beauty but that diff is a pain to get hold of. 😕 I’m not too keen about the stock wheels and tires - though I’ve kept them on mine too. Great video my friend. Watched it all 🙂

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks buddy you’re really the only channel I’ve found with this car 🤩. Oh and I’ve now got the DF MS too 😊😊😊

[@danielandrews7028]

For anyone wanting the dampers for their sand viper you can no longer buy the ms version nor the dampers on the buggy. However I found out that the front springs on the sand viper are identical to the MS just not painted white. The rear springs are the red ones from the dt02 spring kit. If you order the tt02b/df03 aluminum dampers just follow the instructions out of the MS manual and use the springs I mentioned. I acquired all of the parts and verified with Tamiya support. The cool part is that the sand viper comes with medium springs and the dt02 spring kit comes with the soft and hard springs. Now if I could just get the rear tires or something close to it ;)

[@aviano72]

Awesome video about the DT-02 The DT-02 is so much fun to drive. Does wheelie with a 13,5 motor :) Foam pads always does the trick against a rattling body The DT-02 ball diff is pretty useless on high grip surface. But on loose surface it's nice. My TRF201 is just a shelf queen now so DT-02 gets a lot of running

[@TAMIYALegends]

aviano72 TRF201 😍😍😍

[@Danglebarry62]

Great channel buddy! I still regret parting out an incomplete super champ I had, but I was starving at the time and it was worth over $500 in pieces! I will live vicariously through your channel. Keep at it!

[@TAMIYALegends]

thenewBH Excellent thanks for watching buddy 😎😊

[@willsrc1222]

Haven’t had time to watch yet but looking forward to it!!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Will’s RC Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻

[@DeliriumElectric]

Good stuff. Love the DT02 but have to say I always preferred the more old school look of the Desert Gator shell. Looking forward to see your running vid

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻

[@andreaswheeler]

another great video, always like your content 03:17, you can tell he is a top driver he has the terra scorcher in his hand!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻

[@ShenRC]

Looks great! the DT02 is a great fun chassis for sure!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Shen RC Cheers buddy 😊👊🏻

[@atomicboomerang]

Good call on the shock tower brace. I've got the Sand Viper and it cracked, been looking for a replacement for 2 months now with no luck. Keep up the good work!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Chris Bradshaw Thanks Chris 😊👊🏻

[@willsrc1222]

Awesome video. Super informative! Can’t wait to see this one rip 👊

[@TAMIYALegends]

Will’s RC Excellent track video coming soon my friend 😊😊😊

[@paulfam1932]

It is a good looking car 😄 Great info about bracing the front shock tower 👍 I'll do that to my Sand Viper

[@TAMIYALegends]

Paul Fam Thanks for watching Paul 😊👊🏻

[@ianwinpenny1857]

This is the same ball diff I put into a DT03 recently. I have run 2 batteries through it and it has loosened slightly, so I think it is a case of keeping track of them. I also just finished a top force build and have found them a bit of a pain as you have to pull them out to tighten, but the car is brilliant and I think the ball diffs make quite a difference in handling especially on loose dirt

[@PreeMoo]

What a great looking buggy. But those different style wheels also throw me off. Get the tamiya white df03 multi-spoke front wheels which match the rears, and buy the GPM hex wheel adapters, which come with the bearings. It will then look absolutely ace. And no, I am almost certain tamiya did not make those wheels for the 2wd buggy. Great vid, keep them coming!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks buddy I’ll have a look at that upgrade 😎👊🏻

[@valentinosgsxr]

@@TAMIYALegends I tried them and they do not work with the Tamiya wheels. They just get squeezed by the wheel-nut assembly and jam. There are some Carson wheels that much but I only found them in black. Check it if you like. tamico.de/Carson-All-Terrain-2WD-Wheel-Set-4

[@greghurst6092]

Great video as always Glenn 👍🏽

[@Mark_5150]

Can't wait to see the cars on the track.

[@TAMIYALegends]

This is the fourth car I’ve had there and the only 2wd, I honestly think this went round the little track faster and better than the 4wd cars 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks for watching 😊👊🏻

[@paulus842000]

Another interesting video, I love when you get in and start working on the cars. Doing this you are going to get more subs and views. The only gripe I've got with this car are the wheels, they don't do the car justice, it's like tamiya went into the parts box and just slapped on the first thing they found. Do the car justice, make her proud, Glenn you know what to do, put on some wheels to make her pop. Keep up the good work mate.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks Paul 😎👊🏻

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Toe-In for RWD, Toe-Out for 4WD and FWD... Oh do I love the DT-02 Glenn!! I got it in its LOWEST spec as what I call the 'Oliday Buggy - an homage to my best Mate, Mark Bryan. However there's SO many hopups available!! 😁 I've been able to add a few... BTW, Floureon Batteries make a 2S and 3S Batry that fits that Battery Tray snugly! I run a 3S Batry in mine with a 25T Torque Tuned Motor, and she SCREAMS!! Those Dampers though... OMG!!! 😁😁😁 Tamiya has used Springs that are WAY TOO stiff for so long, most Tamiya enthusiasts think it's the correct way to run... IT ISN'T! The way yours has a little natural Droop when you put weight on it, is beautiful!! If the Springs on your real Car sat fully extended - your Ride will be terrible and you'd have abysmal Handling!! I try to explain that on the TamiyaClub Forums, but I can't get the more hardcore guys to understand..... OMG those Springs are so perfect - I must find some! Or even find the Spring Rates, so I can get similar. Another thing open for hardcore Debate for many years, is Diff types! I'm a firm believer in Sealed, Oil Filled, Gear Diffs.... There's also some who believe that Ball Diffs are the only way to go. We're of course, open to our opinions - but a Gear Diff will NEVER work loose, causing slippage and need adjustments. And a Ball Diff is slightly more efficient, less drag. Do you have an opinion? 😉 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

GAWD I can write a lot!! 😜 I just became a new Granddaddy over the weekend, and I'm SO excited!!!

[@TAMIYALegends]

PoorManRC Excellent comment my friend 😊 Yes very happy with this one and it runs so well 🤩🤩🤩 I much prefer gear diffs, but trying to use and learn as much as I can about ball diffs 🤓

[@TAMIYALegends]

PoorManRC Congratulations 🥳

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Thanks Glenn!! 😊 Baby's doing great! Ball Diffs aren't BAD... But they are more fiddly - especially if you have to take apart the Gearbox to adjust!! 😲 If you can find them in Canada, you should try Floureon Batteries. Mine are 3 years old, and show no signs of going anytime soon!! 👍👍 MOST of them are made to a similar size of NiMH Stick Packs, or smaller. Like I said, a 3300 MAh 3S Floureon Battery fits snugly in my DT-02! Their 3000 MAh 3S fit with a very minor modification in my M05!! 😁 Everything's got a drawback..... The only one I've found on these Batteries is, NO high C ratings. Highest is 50C. However I've had NO problems with any of my Batteries! 😉

[@robcraighill6315]

What a beast, looks awesome!

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks Rob 😊👊🏻

[@johnwindsor9069]

I have raced many brands of rc since the late 90's, ball diffs were the norm back then too. What I learned is that ball diffs do require frequent servicing and adjustment. For whatever reason, the Tamiya ball diffs always had issues up until Tamiya made the TRF series of kits. Tamiya basically copied the rc10 stealth diffs which is still the gold standard today. Those spring washers are hit or miss, made assembly complicated, and were eventally replaced with an actual spring which makes it easy to build, and more consistent. Nothing you can really do with the older style ball diffs, just keep the power low, and check every run.

[@TAMIYALegends]

John Windsor Great information John, thanks for commenting buddy 😊👊🏻

[@bradkalman2353]

I like ball diffs ff01 had one at took a little while before the ball diff got loose, but it was easier to tune like that one.

[@GTMatukka]

Glenn! Paisen RC is the channel name. Great vid again :)

[@TAMIYALegends]

Cosmo 1:35 That’s the one 😊 He’s on a lot of the Tamiya Inc videos too 😎👊🏻

[@bwells2710]

Great video.. love the Tamiya stuff.. since you are a legend I figured I could ask you a question a little non-related.. I picked up one of those knock off TT-01 frames to build a car and of course I over powered it.. 😎 My question is if you know of any steel diff pinion gear sets? I stripped the pinion gear in the rear diff pretty much instantly. I've been looking and searching and have ordered the Tamiya factory gears but they are still plastic. Steel ones would be amazing! Thanks for your time and I hope you are doing well in these times. Cheers

[@TAMIYALegends]

Hey Bob, Unfortunately I don’t know if metal gears are an option 🤷🏼‍♂️. I don’t think I’ve ever seen them 🤔 I’ll do some digging 👊🏻

[@bwells2710]

Thank you!.. I did order the factory parts so I'm hoping they will be more durable.. thank you so much

[@markbruton-young9228]

Yeah I would use about an inch of Velcro each side and also 10mm wide by 5mm thick high density sticky back foam along the sides of the chassis which helps to avoid dirt ingress, and will avoid the shell rattle. You can find this sort of thing on eBay

[@markbruton-young9228]

Interesting it has a ball diff but no slipper. Using the ball diff as a slipper is not the best design idea. Means it will wear out quicker and need resetting often.

[@markbruton-young9228]

Odd that the heat sink motor plate is buried in the gearbox and has no fins on it. Why did they not design a full bolt on motor plate like other cars, which also moves the motor nearer the centre line?

[@TAMIYALegends]

mark bruton-young You make great points Mark, I had wondered about some of these things 🤷🏼‍♂️. But I have to say the thing runs so well, hopefully you’ll see that in the running video coming soon. Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻

[@stephenmanley4097]

I'm not a big fan of ball diffs, but I've got a df03 & cat xls with pro transmission to build. DT02 MS very nice car. 👍👌

[@TAMIYALegends]

Yeah they need to be maintained and adjusted on a regular basis. I’m getting a much better understanding of them now but I still prefer gear diffs 🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks for watching Stephen 😊👊🏻

[@bradkalman2353]

I once had white springs for my TL01. They should re-release bat model to TL01 and make a new tl02.

[@calvin1mac]

Awesome as always Glenn. Have you ever had a Tamiya DN01? Still seems to be a few Zahhak kits floating about. I guess they are like the 2wd equivalent to the DB01 Durga, based on the TRF201. Be great to see one on the channel.

[@TAMIYALegends]

calvin1mac Yeah I’d like to get hold of one, but I’m holding out for a TRF201 if possible 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@Paul__FC]

That's a sweet rig!

[@1114mat]

DT 02, what a beast 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks buddy 😎👊🏻

[@1114mat]

TAMIYA Legends your welcome buddy, I nearly brought a DT 02 tonight. But when I seen 1000 dollar my jaw dropped lol, crazy but must be well worth it🤩

[@TAMIYALegends]

MattyG Yeah I’ve seen that one, been on sale like that for ages 😞

[@1114mat]

TAMIYA Legends yeah, plus I’m still waiting on 3 other other buggy’s,been waiting like close to 3 months for them. If I had that extra cash I would have brought it tonight, but then I think I could buy four or five more tamiya cars for that price 🤔

[@alanpassmore2275]

Hi Glen . I have just noticed that the Tamiya Nissan Titan has tamiyas astrol wheeeeels front and rear in gray wearing dual block tyers front and rear. ?? Dual block are 62mm astrol wheels are 60mm?? Also did they make narrow front tyers.

[@Bennie98]

Maybe the cardboard is to prevent them from rusting together. Although the plate is probably aluminium so it would surprise me. Looks like a fun buggy though. I'm still looking to buy a 2 wheel driven car. Maybe I'll take a look at one of these. :D

[@TAMIYALegends]

Excellent you won’t be disappointed with a DT02 buddy 😊👊🏻

[@arnoldapplewhite3149]

I haven't worked on a DT-02 before so to say i'm no expert would be an understatement but could you adjust the ball diff by dropping the suspension arm on the side that the diff has the alan drive adjuster, remove the driveshaft and then the ball cup from the diff, would you then be able to insert you alan driver into the diff and by holding the opposite side wheel tighten or loosen the diff accordingly?

[@TAMIYALegends]

No unfortunately not, you have to take the hex plate off the diff to get to the allan head bolt 😞. That can only be done by removing the diff. Now I’ve said that I’m going to double check that lol 😂 Thanks for watching buddy 👊🏻

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

Cool RC as usual buddy

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thank you 😊

[@duffduff4948]

Hey Glen. glad to see your excellent content coming along :) interesting and enlightening as always. As it happens i picked up a new in box sand viper just before lockdown, with no real plan as to what to do with it. I knew nothing about these MS cars until your video today, is it technically possible and viable to turn the humble viper into a DT-02 MS if yo have the budget for it?

[@TAMIYALegends]

duff duff Yes you could definitely do that conversion but it’ll be expensive to do in bits 😬

[@duffduff4948]

@@TAMIYALegends Thanks for the reply, i shall investigate :)

[@HarryStephenson]

Hello just a quick question I own a TAMIYA Thunder Dragon there is a few videos of it on my channel just wondering there is an awful noise coming from it when you engage reverse when going forward quickly just wondering if that’s to do with the gearbox?

[@K-Anator]

Just now re-watching this video while I have my DT-02 in pieces, tinkering. 22:25, I would suggest that the heatsink is for the transmission housing more than for the motor. With a better ESC to run my 16t brushed motor on 2s, it gets a tad warm, I'm worried if I push it too hard on a hot day, I might melt something. If I had that spacer, I'd be using the original motor plate too to keep the heat out of the transmission. I think I might need to dig something up similar so that I can stick the finned one on the bottom of the can. One other thing for anyone reading this far: Does the DT-02 usually have an issue where when turning full right, the turn buckle hits the left side of the chassis? When I received it, the original owner had put two spacers between the top of the bulkhead and the shock mount, which solved that issue, but it makes body fitment a bit weird, and pitches the nose down ever so slightly. I just don't like how it looks, I've looked at that section of the manual, all the various servos, servo horns, and turnbuckles I have and nothing works out.

[@chriswatson9519]

Rightly or wrongly I've built ball diffs like that and left them to it I can honestly say Glenn until I've watched some of your videos I had never considered it so it could be an oops moment 😬😬😂😂😂

[@TAMIYALegends]

I think it depends on the motor as well, I guess a 540 and they might be fine 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@tamiyafrog3220]

Another great vid👌👌👌

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thank you 😊

[@RCvapor]

Looking forwRd to track footage, wish we had more tracks in UK, remember going the Halifax track years ago 😂😂

[@TAMIYALegends]

Oh the outdoor tarmac track in Elland? Had plenty runs there, superb facility 🤩🤩🤩

[@RCvapor]

TAMIYA Legends yep that’s the one👍

[@thorhammerr7664]

Wish they would Re-release this again!. Especially if the gearbox was made with FRP or CRP !!. The gear box doesn't hold up well when racing on tracks with larger jumps over time!. Had to fit some toes made of carbon fiber and fill in the hollow area where the a arms are with epoxy to strengthen them !. Would be awesome to see a new DT 02 made from Frp or CRP !!.

[@mitymike]

Yes I had to remove and regrease the ball diff in my tgx mk1 after every 1 to 2 tanks of fuel with a high powered engine. The damn thing would spin so fast it flung all the grease out and eventually burned the pressure plates 🤪

[@TAMIYALegends]

mitymike 1996 Oh the joys of ball diffs 😂👊🏻

[@alanpassmore2275]

We need a trf ms holiday buggy🤣🤣

[@TAMIYALegends]

Haha that would be cool 😂👊🏻 Thanks for watching buddy

[@coryn1980]

Rear diff looks similar to top force love that dt02 ms puts my sandviper to shame lol

[@TAMIYALegends]

Yeah but it can’t be adjusted in the car which is a real pain 😬 Thanks for watching buddy 😎👊🏻

[@coryn1980]

@@TAMIYALegends same as the top force iam still not sure how tight the diffs have to be I do like the dt02 ms just had a look on ebay one wos £350 +£65 postage so I will stick with my sandviper I think lol

[@bradkalman2353]

Maybe anti- wear grease it might stop the loosening of it.

[@phrankdatank]

what are the best shocks for the tt 02b?>

[@LL-wc4wn]

How does the dt02 titan compare, i just bought one

[@TAMIYALegends]

Well it’s a great handling chassis so I’d imagine it to be just as good with a truck body on it 😊👊🏻

[@LL-wc4wn]

@@TAMIYALegends im noob. Are the parts on it same as the one in your vid. Or does this one have higher spec parts

[@TAMIYALegends]

L L Yes the MS is the better spec car, but believe me the kit car runs great my friend 😎👊🏻

[@manuelschottle4547]

i wouldn't be sure about the DT02-MS not being rereleased. The DF-03 MS had an official rere.

[@bradkalman2353]

The ff01 had a ball diff that looked different than that.

[@rcalltypes8230]

Nice find, the MS version is hard to find.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Rcalltypes Yeah and there ridiculously expensive too 🤬🤬🤬

[@razif6916]

The best

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks for watching my friend 😎👊🏻

[@bradkalman2353]

If you would do the new 100 Tamiya's I bet the dt02 to and the dt03 would be on there.

[@mattallica0]

another nice car you lucky bugger

[@TAMIYALegends]

Thanks 😊

[@craigwatkinson6329]

I think Glen’s in love ❤️

[@valentinosgsxr]

Paper motor gasket protects the plastic gearbox housing from the motor heat to extend its life.

[@TAMIYALegends]

valentinosgsxr Ok I understand that, but it’s fitted between the motor and motor plate? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@valentinosgsxr]

@@TAMIYALegends The motor plate only acts as a spacer to give room for the heat sink to fit. Heat sink is then responsible to cool the motor down. The plastic housing of this gearbox is very common to crack where the motor is bolted down. I went through many of them after I upgraded my DT-03 to brushless.

[@TAMIYALegends]

valentinosgsxr Excellent information thanks for that 😊👊🏻

[@valentinosgsxr]

You are welcome. Love your channel!

[@bradkalman2353]

I did not know you had a child I hope you get to see her since you're so far away from her soon also I think they should we release these Ms models.

[@markhollinshead5795]

im trying to track one down i love my sand viper

[@TAMIYALegends]

Such a great chassis Mark 😎👊🏻

[@io3204]

Back in the early 90s when I got my manta ray I also had a beautiful sort of catalogue wherein all the tamiya models were listed with great pictures and details. Don't remember if it was from tamiya directly or from the shop. Anyway l could have sworn in that catalogue was a tamiya belt drive model, buggy, not road model. But in the database I find no such model from that time. Anybody knows what ghat might have been? Thx

[@TAMIYALegends]

No I don’t know what that was 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️

[@io3204]

@@TAMIYALegends thank you. I must be mixing it up with a different brand then.

[@jamiecobel820]

Kyosho did a version of the optima buggy with belt driven 4WD. It might be that you're thinking of.

[@1114mat]

Hi Glenn

[@TAMIYALegends]

Hey buddy 🤩👊🏻

[@fila1445]

I was racing DT-02 back in 2008-2009 It had almost no front grip on carpet and with more powerfull engine it just wheellied all the time. It was no match to B4 and xxx-cr

[@TAMIYALegends]

Yeah I wouldn’t expect it to be up there with race cars, but the DT-02 race series looks great fun 😊

[@billcox87]

toe out will turn better, toe in will be easier to track straight at high speed.

[@bradkalman2353]

I think you're wrong I think you need to do it to give it a little more space for the motor to stick out.

[@alfredyost7972]

I do not understand why Tamiya made this buggy? I like Tamiya R/C cars for two reasons. Easy to build and they look great. This buggy looks like a Team Associated RC10. The RC10 is a legendary 2wd buggy. It was just the best old school R/C buggy ever made. I think if you are looking at racing buggies this Tamiya car is a failure. If you want this buggy because it looks cool, okay I get it. Thoughts?

[@TAMIYALegends]

Alfred Yost As always I appreciate your opinion my friend 😊👊🏻

[@AB-80X]

It does have a serial number Glenn. It's 49475. You should get this screw kit though. www.rcscrewz.com/product/tam108-tamiya-dt-02-ms-buggy-stainless-steel-screw/

[@bradkalman2353]

You should put better oil in the shocks. It it bounces too much for oil filled dampers.

[@bradkalman2353]

Don't forget the fastest production car is all wheel drive the Chiron it did 304mph. So even in the rc word don't underestimate a awd car.

[@RC-ty5ym]

You want a fast Servo? So you have chosen Savox SH1290MG. 😂😂😂😂

[@TAMIYALegends]

I only use what I have lying around, most of them come in the cars I buy 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@k1e1v1i1n]

racers Velcro and dont use body pins, or at least i never did

[@bradkalman2353]

Is that cat yours cuz it wants your attention. Lol

[@bradkalman2353]

Aluminum is not a conductor I don't think you'd shorted out.

[@io3204]

Not a conductor? Where did you get that from?

[@bradkalman2353]

@@io3204 is an alloy alloys do not conduct electricity because magnets do not stick to them.

[@io3204]

@@bradkalman2353 that is dangerously wrong. Test it with alu foil on the end of a AA battery so you won't forget it.

[@bradkalman2353]

Yeah it would be a fortune to paint it like that cuz you've already painted a car like. Lol

[@bradkalman2353]

The other gear on the gearbox looks like you need to be replaced it is seriously used up.

[@TAMIYALegends]

Hmmm not sure what you saw, the car had only been run once 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bradkalman2353]

@@TAMIYALegends the counter gear in the other half of the gear box.