Tank Boots - Scuba Tech Tips: S12E13

[@mankwt]

You are A treasure of scuba diving information God bless you Huge amount of respect for you ❤️

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Wow, thank you Mohammad.

[@DigginwithSeven]

Another informative video. I have boots on all 16 of my tanks. One additional tip: some boots are hard to get on the tank, but if you soak the boot in hot water for a few minutes it will slip right on and then grip the tank when it cools. Thanks for sharing your tips... I love them!

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Thanks for sharing! A good tip for everyone.

[@scottm6927]

Such a great channel, sir! I always learn something new with each enjoyable episode!! Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and experience!

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

My pleasure Scott.

[@ivoryjohnson4662]

Mr Peirce, thank you again for your contribution to the sport, if there was a Hall of Fame you would be in the Ring of Honor

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Thank you so much for this Ivory. Kevin wants to be in the bacon hall of fame.

[@ivoryjohnson4662]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Only if I can be the runner up

[@timgosling6189]

Glad you explained about the rolling thing. I was just wondering how big a wrench you need to screw that thing on the tank.....

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

How did you know they screw on. Secrets out! Good point Tim.

[@caravandanadventures]

Found your channel searching how to prep new scuba mask. Now I see you have a playlist for " Sea Hunt Remembered". I'm 65, remember watching that show. Dig your channel. Even though I just started Snorkeling, your channel will be helpful to me and , entertaining. Saying "Hello" to you sir, from South Georgia, US.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Welcome aboard! Lots to learn and remember in my Vintage Scuba and Sea Hunt Remembered playlists. I do own the worlds largest collection of Sea Hunt memorabilia so I know something about the show.

[@caravandanadventures]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter , I loved Loyd Bridges, he was a great actor.

[@rickkinney2544]

Thanks for the reminder Alec. I need to replace a couple of boots that split apart for some reason. Not mishandled, just lack of use I guess.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Welcome Rick. Take care sir.

[@victorhernandez4375]

Alec you are the best profesor, thank you

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Thank you! 😃

[@dominikgruss4457]

Hey Alec. As I'm just on the look-out for a good summer holiday read 📚 I thought it would be awesome if you could present a few books scuba related books that you would suggest to read. I would greatly appreciate it.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

There are a lot of scuba related books from technical to stories but to do it right, I would have to read the book (not skim it). Sorry but I don't have time with all my At The Ranch projects to do it properly. Try the various scuba magazines as most have book reviews. Hope this helps get you something nice to enjoy.

[@dominikgruss4457]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Thanks a bunch for taking the time to answer. I just finished the new book by Achim Schlöffel who does the Inner Space Explorers channel. An excellent read and comes in an english version too. Would be fantastic if you could publish something similar. I'm sure the educational value would be of worth to many divers.

[@scubasteveandunderwaterroc3547]

Some of my tank boots are glow in the dark. It's pretty neat.

[@nathanjohnson9231]

I want a set for my LP72s. All I'm finding is black, and that's hard to find.

[@scubasteveandunderwaterroc3547]

@@nathanjohnson9231 all I could ever find are for Al80s

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Another strange option. Does not replace a tank marker though. Thanks for watching Steve.

[@Teampegleg]

Blue Steel/Faber still sells steel tanks with the form fitting softer plastic tank boots, those trap water terribly. You can get after market steel tank boots that are the hard plastic design that drain better, but even those should be removed periodically to ensure that you are able to rinse everywhere.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Good point Peg. Tank boots must be removed for hydro testing and should be removed for a complete VIS inspection (some stores skip that). Thanks for watching.

[@johnnyf4r]

great stuff Alec

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Thanks Johnny.

[@LeonardBaak]

I was hoping this might offer tips on getting the tank boot onto the tank without breaking it. It always seems a challenge for me.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Here is an easy way, position the tank 6-8" over the boot, let the tank down so the boot is positioned correctly and then up/down the tank to drive the boot fully onto the tank. Some like rubber mallets or hammers but that puts force on one spot, not all around the boot. Give it a try. A

[@LeonardBaak]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter I found a way online that worked great. I soaked the boot in a sink of hot water (just hot water from the tap) for a few minutes and wiped the bottom of the tank with a soapy paper towel (liquid hand soap). Then I just lowered the tank into the water warmed boot. It went on much easier.

[@michaelclarke8972]

Another "help" to drain off water is tp ensure that there are drainage holes in the base of the boot. If there are none, just drill a few so that the water can drain out of the boot.

[@alainbourgault1937]

Considering all that I've witness in my not so long life, I feel obligated to put a disclaimer on that comment; DO NOT DRILL HOLES IN YOU BOOT WHILE IT"S ON THE TANK!!!!!!

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

The two models I show have drain holes but a good point Michael. And given today's eduction levels, Alain's point is valid (but hopefully not needed). Safe diving my friend.

[@michaelclarke8972]

@@alainbourgault1937 😂

[@alainbourgault1937]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter It's that kind of warning that I would classify in the same category as warning people not to use hair dryers in the shower. You would hope it's not necessary but the reality is that some people need that warning. But the sad truth is, if you try to make the world idiot proof, the world creates a better idiot :) Keep up the good work, I can never get enough of Alec Peirce Scuba.

[@SHEIKH141]

hey Alec, can you please do a video about tech diving more specifically twin sets and side mount.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

I could but there are dedicated KZbin channels on tec diving with lots more info than I can share. Look up Lake Hickory Scuba as they have tec tips from tying bolts to twins and mixed gas. Take care and dive safe.

[@jacquespoirier9071]

a very important fact Alec specified is that that a tank should be free of surface damage, that is so important that on highly fatigue cycled parts that a surface shoot peening is mandatory, this is even more important on high performance materials that are used on a fatigue situation. it is the main reason why a periodic hydrotest is mandatory, this test at 5/3 of the service pressure have a dual mission, the first one is is obviously to proof the tank, the second one , less evident, is to cause the blunting of the micro cracks that arose in the normal filling service. personally, I find a bit abusive that test on tanks that sees only a few filling per year but is is totally justified on a tank that is commercially used and sees many fillings every day. as a failure can cause important damages or death the procedure have its reason to exist.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

I see your point regarding commercially used tanks versus personal tanks but, there has to be a standard so 5 years was chosen. It's not unreasonable. It may be a bit too long for commercial tanks and a bit too soon for personal use tanks but it's a good compromise. Alec

[@barrybaldwin5535]

Hey Alec, save the cocktails for AFTER the shoot!!!

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Oh I wish. This was the last video of a long days shooting so I'm tired and ready for home. It's Kevin that keeps pushing me to do more, the tyrant!

[@pucioy]

Thanks for informative video.Technical question: is it possible to put on the first stage on a tank under water without destroying it? What will happen if water gets thru the regulator? Are there differences between piston and di. regulator in above situation?

[@Teampegleg]

It can be done, it is considered a possible emergency procedure in tech diving. But there is a chance that it won't work, and it will require a complete tear down and rebuild following. So it is done only in an absolute emergency, ie it is the only way to get enough breathing gas to make it to the surface safely.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Possible, yes, advised: only in an emergency. ANY water that enters the 1st stage, salt or fresh will require a full service before diving again. Both types are affected equally as water will have entered the HP and LP ports. Note allow that the water entering the 1st stage will be pushed into the HP and LP hoses so your air integrated dive computer hose and possibly computer may be affected. The 2nd stage will need a service to remove the water from the hose and reg. Water in the LPI hose will affect the schrader valve before entering the power inflate valve. Overall NOT advised as everything from the 1st stage outward will need checking, cleaning and service to ensure nothing fails. Take care.

[@Mahargbot]

Should I be removing my tank boot to clean the tank? I mostly just dive lakes but occasionally travel to the ocean.

[@nathanjohnson9231]

I've had the same question. I'm not sure how easy it is to get them off though.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Fresh water diving gets mostly mud and sand, its salt water that really corrodes a tank. After a days diving, if you have a solid lead weight, us it to tap around the boot, assuming its hard plastic, to work the boot off. Soft boots and be pulled by sitting down, hold the tank between your legs and use both feet on the sides to pull it off. Rinse and hold the tank over the boot and drop it down to push the boot back on. With practice takes only a minute off and on.

[@acem7749]

any opinion on tank protection? mainly mesh sleeves.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Think I touched on that in another video. I'll add that to my ideas list for future subjects, thank. A

[@bassh8me1]

Both my plastic boots cracked after being in the closet for 2 years. Any idea why?

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Maybe water was inside during winter (if you have winter). I had plastic tank boots on a tank for 12 years, no problems. A

[@HhhHhhh-pe8qt]

👍

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Thanks.

[@christophercarder1828]

Installation video???

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

It would be a very short one, put boot on floor, position tank, tap tank onto boot. Still want a video? A

[@christophercarder1828]

@Alec Peirce Scuba if that's all there is to it then I don't think it's necessary. Thank you for the response! I am a newer diver and I very much enjoy your videos

[@scubacro5758]

​@@christophercarder1828 what did you think ist gona be😂😂

[@christophercarder1828]

@@scubacro5758 LOL, no way that thing was going on unless I bashed it onto the tank on the garage floor. Didn't seem right but that worked

[@SeattleRingHunter]

And yet we still see all the GUE tech divers ripping off all their boots from aluminum and steel cylinders alike. Steel 100 HP doubles leaned up against wall.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

Must be a GUE thing for doubles. My vintage friends have old doubles and some triples, all with boots to stand up. A

[@SeattleRingHunter]

@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Absolutely is a GUE thing. A lot of great GUE divers but they follow a very specific gear configuration and believe to only take what you need in a dive. I suspect at some early point they noticed tank damage, some may have felt it was slightly more drag or slightly less streamlined for what ever reason, or maybe some diver caught the edge of a rigid tank boot against a cave rock or hard edge while penetrating a sunken ship. No real safety concern from what I can come up with they refuse to use a boot on both aluminum and steel cylinders. I tend to be more about practicability and not wanting my steel tanks to tip over in my garage. The Seems quite “lame” to me but some how some where they got it stuck in their police station not to use tank boots. Doesn’t make them right as they like to think Doing It Right, it’s no longer about right or wrong. It’s about what works and having the correct gear for the application at hand.

[@MAGAisacult]

The only thing more annoying and useless than tank boots is that ridiulous plastic net webbing for tanks.

[@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter]

It has a purpose. Kevin uses them when in the trunk to tanks stop clanking. Not needed for diving.

[@YaNeK92]

That net webbing when it is fluro colour allows your buddy to see you better during bad visibility 😁🤙🏼