Tape Ambient Music Techniques | Making Of C45

[@Ellotus13]

You couldn't be more inspirational if you tried! It's incredible how much effort and creativity you put into something that could have been just another mixtape. Always the one to take the high road I see! This came at a good time too, I was planning on doing a cassette on my first album I did a year ago and it might be something you could work with. What's the preferred way to get in touch on that subject? Also, I have a question about tapes. Sorry if it's a little on the obvious side, but I have been getting into tapes as of the last couple of years and I'm a complete beginner on using them in a creative way. If I were to use a microcassette (or any other cassette), how many times can I rewrite the tape? From what I've gathered it has some variables to it and it's preferred if you don't, but a ballpark estimation (or any information) could be very useful information! Thank you once again, you have my favorite channel on KZbin.

[@Hainbach]

+Ellotus13 thanks a lot! Hainbach101(at) gmail.com is the easiest way. You can rewrite the tape as long as it sounds good. You will hear degradation creeping in slowly, less highs less bass more noise. Depending on what you want that might be a good thing. I am hesitant to shoot for a ballpark number, as it varies from tape to tape, but at about seven rewrites it might get a little bit funky. Some of the loop tapes I have are so worn it's super nice.

[@Ellotus13]

HAINBACH Thanks for the answers! I'll probably be in touch about the tape next month.

[@edgeeffect]

Oh... I love that Janus... it's like an "instant Throbbing Gristle" machine.... and joysticks.... effects need more joysticks! These videos where you talk about your techniques are also brilliant gear reviews... because you're showing equipment being used as part of your creative process... a lot of "real" gear reviews leave me thinking "OK, it's got X, Y, Z features... but how can you REALLY use it"......................

[@hvidhajster]

Hi Hainbach, nice video. I reckomend that you make a MANUAL WALKMAN to go with this. Good for short sounds or soundscapes. The idea is to pull of the "tape mover", glue it to a small crank and play it by hand. Good fun.

[@Hainbach]

+hvidhajster thank you for the tip!

[@geecen]

Music thing have something like that for eurorack - Nam June Paik style

[@alexg8233]

Thank you very much for sharing your technique, herr Hainbach! Can I ask, will tone controls on Field Kit FX work for this? Also, I noticed that you like to use delay pedal as your end of chain, like Timeline or Thyme. Do you just use delay or add reverb later? Thank you and have a nice day! You are a never ending source of inspiration for many of us.

[@Hainbach]

Thank you! For these I mostly use delay, as reverb can wash out things to much with all the tape noise. The tone control on the FX works too

[@Ciudadana_Cero]

Great work! Cheers from New Jersey!

[@davido3109]

Thank´s for Sharing... Hainbach!!! Incredible music for real!!

[@Fatdogrecords]

Great sound & set up Love your vids

[@Hainbach]

Thank you! Feedback is what keeps me going, so thanks for commenting!

[@GangiFilms]

love it. bought the janus pedal

[@everymandan4176]

Fantastic video, thanks and more please!

[@Hainbach]

Thank you! Have ideas for part 3 already, but its will be some time before I can record it.

[@justFUNdimples]

@Hainbach Echoing several of these comments in theirs and my appreciation for the inspiring content you always create. Do you have tips for eliminating the blank space in a looped recording? At first I thought it was due to where the tape has been joined together to create the loop... but I tested o. My 4 track... and seems like the blank space is more where I begin and end the recording no due to where the looped cassettes I purchased have been seamed together. I’ve tried a few things like using pause instead of hitting stop during recording... and have tied on a variety of cassette recorders. Any tips, or should I just accept it and work around it?

[@Hainbach]

Unplug the power.

[@justFUNdimples]

HAINBACH I put tape over the eraser head on my cassette recorder... now no more blank spot in my loops. I think it was erasing the tape a milliseconds before the recording head... and so when I stopped recording apparently I was hearing the blank space between the eraser head and the recording one.

[@V3xxe]

@@justFUNdimples That's precisely the issue. One way I've got around it lately is recording what I want to loop on the tape beforehand, THEN cutting the loop. If it's just a drone signal this works well.

[@mexmax1657]

Hey ;) Was kostet der ganze Spaß an Geräten, die im Video verwendet werden? Babyface Pro mal weg gelassen.

[@cuba1956]

Wow, this is fantastic. Thank you for this insight and inspiration! Field Kit looks like a bag of wonders. Can it convert line input to CV triggers similar to MS-20?

[@cuba1956]

I'm a big fan of Boards of Canada and always appreciated not just the music, but the way they can find the great atmosphere in the most unexpected sound. Sound the most producers would not even consider - like that bit on the Sanyo. I have the same feeling with your music every video. The beginning of the C45 is just mesmerising.

[@Hainbach]

You are welcome! It has an envelope follower, so yeah, it can!

[@discophone_6214]

These are so beautifull mixes thanks for some insight view how you do this 😊

[@Hainbach]

Thank you very much!

[@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX]

This was great and super helpful in terms of pushing me to integrate tape with my euroack system. How wide is the pitch control on the Marantz? There is a pmd222 locally I'm looking at picking up, which I assume is very like your 221.

[@Hainbach]

+Rich oh, it's very wide! But not as far as the Walkman, that can go to complete sludge.

[@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX]

Cool, thanks. I'm picking up the pmd222 tomorrow, should be fun to see how it pairs and compares with my beloved Phonogene and Morphagene. Do you have any recommendations of which cassettes to use for creating short loops and where to get them?

[@toximan2008]

your videos really make me want to buy the electroacoustic workstation... It would compliment sample players and sequencers so damn well! Awesome video... as always ;)

[@Hainbach]

Its lovely, you can't go wrong with it. Thank you!

[@breslin44]

Nice vibes and insight

[@Hainbach]

Thank you Ben!

[@WarIsOver-ifyouwantit]

QUESTION. you say the PMD 221 sounds not as lo fi. what if someone were to use it with less quality tapes? wouldn't it make it sound more lo-fi?

[@Rephazer]

Absolutely brilliant! If I ever do a cassette release I know who to contact ;)

[@Hainbach]

+Rephazer please do! ☺️

[@MarquesLaFelt]

Let’s bring in the fuzz!

[@shane_l8085]

Thanks for the video, can you advise on how to modify the walkman to make it Voltage Controlled?

[@Hainbach]

Have not done it myself, as I got the Walkman with Gieskes VCPre317 module, but here is a how-to: ofsoundmind.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/primer-pitch-bending-a-walkman/

[@shane_l8085]

Thanks!

[@kevinleguillouklg]

A voltage-controlled walkman, now that's interesting ! It's modded to control the playback speed ?

[@Hainbach]

Exactly! CV controls the DC motor inside.

[@kevinleguillouklg]

That's a cool idea 👍

[@dekalboy8816]

don’t understand how is t possible to control the tape speed with the control voltage of the field kit : what is the type of input of the siemens walkman ? thank you

[@Hainbach]

You need to hack the DC motor for external input. Google "pitch mod walkman".

[@monoseq9797]

you're bloody awesome! love it!

[@Hainbach]

Thanks a lot!

[@michelnassar9706]

Super cool!!

[@Hainbach]

Thanks Michel!

[@mattmullen41]

Where can I find the track an 5:37? Such beautiful sound

[@user-ed5ix1sw6i]

is the one at 0:20 a full song? Would love to hear the rest of it!

[@Hainbach]

Its from an as yet unreleased Soundtrack tape - you can hear it longer here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmbNdYyIbqarqck

[@user-ed5ix1sw6i]

awesome, thank you for all your work! keep it up :-)

[@johnmurray4875]

Thank you!!!

[@Hainbach]

You are welcome! :-)

[@ProfessorHumblesDelusions]

Too many non-musicians seem to have caught on that we wish to create audio with walkmans and other tape machine, prices for used (even broken) gear are going way up. 😡

[@Hainbach]

In my opinion it was the big Stranger Things/ Guardians of the Galaxy boom. Way bigger than any musicians hype.

Amazing!

[@Hainbach]

+Trübüla thank you very much!

[@Hardbody94]

how are c45 tapes in terms of quality?

[@Hainbach]

+Warping Warping depends entirely on what you want to do with them.

[@Hainbach]

+HAINBACH I use Ugandan type 1 cassettes, sound very tapey, but not hifi.

[@noisejockey]

Bravo!

[@Hainbach]

Thank you my friend!

[@aboxinthesea]

I second what that Noisejockey guy said..... Bravo!

[@Hainbach]

+A Box In The Sea and thank you too ☺️

[@flynn_22]

Is that bigmuff vintage

[@Hainbach]

Its a russian one from the mid-nineties. Does that make it vintage?

[@degradedecho8397]

Flow State xxx

[@Hainbach]

B E S T S T A T E

[@marcoalorio]

🤔

[@geluix69]

Sorry but this is been done since the 60s , nothing new here. Done many times with 8 track reel to reel. look up Delia Derbyshire.

[@Hainbach]

Thanks, I fully am aware of the continuum I am in :-). I am just showing my compositional techniques.

[@geluix69]

sorry if that came off negative. but ive spoken to so many snooty wannabee these days, its left a bad taste. thanks for sharing this.

[@henryhill92]

You really felt the need to just shit on this for no reason, huh?

[@supershmooperme]

He never claimed to be the first one lmao, no one likes negative people that shit on people for no reason