Nutritional Strategies for Cancer Patients: Insights from 2 Experts in Oncology Nutrition

[@TargetCancer]

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[@adouglas8405]

As a cancer survivor and healthcare clinician, it is becoming abundantly clear that first, our clinicians and dieticians need to unlearn their initial training. They keep going back to old ways of knowing.

[@cassieoz1702]

I can guarantee my inflammatory symptoms (arthritis, pain) with come back with a vengence if i eat (most) fruits, legumes and starchy veg.

[@williamhenry3337]

I WANT TO SCREAM ! ! Every "so called" health expert says not to eat red meat but THEY DON'T talk about fed lot meat standing in 6 inches of poop, pumped up with antibiotics and steroids and fed GMO soy and corn. They don't talk about VERY HEALTHY grass fed beef. I'm 75 years old with NO HEALTH ISSUES and have never had a prescription in my life. One sick day in 1969. I eat red meat. Still have the same 29" waist I had when I graduated High School in 1967.

[@jenniferwaithe7153]

Such a pity that you stopped watching it. I have watched it in its entirety and I'm watching it again. Will watch again and again until I have internalized the concepts.

[@H4KnSL4K]

In the context of chemo, did you guys mention fasting at all? I believe it's a huge factor to lessen the side effects of chemo and make it more effective (allowing to use lower doses).

[@lynlawley8903]

Heard that but no lower dose was used so depends on where you are being treated !

[@joankessel5850]

I have had 18 chemos. I have fasted 32 hours before each of my 12 once a week chemos. 72 hours before each of my 6 3 weeks apart chemos. Without fasting, I would’ve been exceedingly ill! For the first 12 kg I worked every week as a consultant and my client was unaware I was going through treatment. Fasting is so important for our bodies! I have exceeded my first perceived, expiration date! I am traveling, and active and enjoying life! I know I have a ticking time bomb that will come back, but fasting and keto carnivore has given me time to live a life! metastatic breast cancer will take its toll, but I’m pushing it as far down the road as I can!

[@peterkobli6196]

Das ist vollkommen blödsinn.Mit fasten wird deine Körper generell abgeschwächt und dazu noch Chemotherapie hinzuzufügen ein sehr schlechtes Duell.

[@rnla7034]

Sadly, my least favorite interview. I always appreciate your work because you reach and think outside the box. These two ladies are very much conventional and following all the 'approved' advice that they're 'allowed' to give. Mainstream yawn from both of them. Redo this video with some Integrative and alternative minds and see what the pulse is beyond the hospital walls, it's vast and the discussion would be Gold!

[@karenohanlon4183]

I agree this is the same old stuff about plant based and your body needs sugar? No mention of how much is required. Please get Thomas Siegfried on Jason Fung Robert Lustig . Ben Bickman. The above people are experts in gathering evidence explaining research and they don't just make statements without backing it up with hard evidence. Neither of the two ladies mentioned the Warburg effect.😮

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

Bingo! But I am Sharing because it's at least good for patients to know that diet matters. Friends have been told to follow the Mediterranean diet. I never know wth that even means! Lots of Italian pasta? Greek lamb? Or pizza?! French cheese?! I do understand most in the Mediterranean countries eat fish, so there's that. But otherwise I have no idea. Then there is Mary Ruddick who lived in Sardinia (blue zone) and said they ate a lot of meat. Most Greeks that I know eat a lot of meat. 🤷‍♀️

[@mikerudd4943]

Much truth in what you say. 1. Diet IS important. 2. Too much "standard of care".

[@laurelmartone73]

Agreed. Less than halfway through, and already I am disappointed.

[@allenbrost9564]

@@jellybeanvinkler4878 Exactly. It's a poor recommendation. Carnivore is a much better dietary guideline in general.

[@mrpad0]

This all seems like such good advice, and with caveats expressed well. A good presentation. As a cancer 'survivor' (post 5 years) I did not use chemotherapy or organ-removal surgeries (tumor removal only) I noticed that there was talk of supplementation/lifestyle and diet as possibly having a negative effect on conventional cancer treatments. I would add that successful supplementation/lifestyle and diet is equally likely to be affected negatively by conventional cancer treatments. It's as if no-one wants to state that rather obvious possibility. But, obvious it is!

[@TargetCancer]

Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment!

[@janeaustentv9226]

Love how this podcast gets straight to the point with key areas. Excellent take ways for cancer treatments.Thank you

[@laurelmartone73]

I want to know if either of these women have helped anyone survive Glioblastoma for longer than 18 months with their plant-based/low-meat advice? Whereas, patients on ketogenic/carnivore diets have survived Glioblastoma 9+ years.

[@allenbrost9564]

Low meat advice is bad advice I think. Too many lost nutrients and bio availability protein.

[@mpoharper]

@@allenbrost9564it would be bad advice for me. Even before cancer I started losing muscle mass. Protein and weight lifting is very important to my health as I fight the beast.

[@ltoland112]

Agree. Plant based not sustainable long term.

[@cognitivechaos1043]

And you're definitely losing a lot of muscle on a plant based diet

[@rnla7034]

'Red meat is the enemy' is the new mantra of the powers that be, and this info continues to be echoed and repeated through the controlled Institutions and education centres. The 'science' is controlled propaganda, not actually truth and both these ladies share the allowed points like perfect robots. So many voices now breaking through with the benefits of keto and even carnivore diets for cancer. Lettuce is not the answer to health...

[@cognitivechaos1043]

@@lf7065 I'm happy for you but you are an exception(maybe you didn'thave much muscleto start with, i don'tknow) , I know many people who went plant based(who don't have cancer) and loss a bunch of muscle and are now skinny-fat, because they replaced good clean protein with empty carbs and fake meat full of seed oils. If you have cancer you should definitely cut a lot of things out of your diet, with all sugers at the top of that list but to say you're not going to lose muscle is defying reality unless you're eating 20 pounds of nuts and beans everyday or supplementing with processed protein powders which is also full of seed oils. And if you don't believe me feel free to look up the vegan propaganda film game changers, because everyone in that film either went back to eating meat because they couldn't keep up or completely stopped competing.

[@llkoolbean4935]

Great point

[@H4KnSL4K]

Going plant based will limit how much you can reduce your carbohydrates, won't it? Don't you want as low a GKI as possible? (See the work of Dr. Seyfried)

[@allenbrost9564]

Why would you go plant based? So many nutrients lacking in plants compared to animal nutrition.

[@joankessel5850]

Did you catch the part where she said plant-based included meat once a day? She doesn’t even know what plant-based is a sued to me. It’s like saying I lived on a sugar Bass diet before, which I did. But I ate things in addition to sugar. She can’t make up her own definitions in this type of a podcast because people assume plant-based means no meat.

[@mikerudd4943]

Hey Cancer Onc Doc.. your opinion on sugar after your diagnosis with stage 4. NET cancer. MY docs have said no influence. I now disagree after being on a no carb no sugar diet for 8 months. I am doing much better all around. Next scan in April. So many great changes for my body . Your thoughts?

[@ShajJan-r4u]

Keep off sugar and carbs, don't change anything

[@mikerudd4943]

@@JorgSingh-b3z yes he does. I hope to hear his own view as a cancer doc

[@janeaustentv9226]

I have found exactly the same. The two tumours have shrunk in half!

[@mikerudd4943]

@janeaustentv9226 that is very good!! I bet you were overjoyed! Would love to hear more

[@janeaustentv9226]

@@mikerudd4943 yes l was! I did it in 3 months with a keto diet, intermittent fasting, taking Blushwood Berry tincture, metformin, quertain, fenbendozol, black seed oil, medicinal CBD oil and sound frequency meditation. I have now cut out fenben, quertain and black seed oil. I also use castor oil rubbed onto my stomach before l go to bed. I believe Blushwood Berry is a must. Clinical trials on this have been done in the U.S. I’m a bit too relaxed at the moment with my regime but I’m getting back on board. Jane Mc Lelland’s book is must read. She talks about blocking pathways. I hope this helps you or any loved one.

[@melanieadcock750]

Going through chemo/immunotheraphy for breast cancer right now. My two biggest issues right now are the pain from Neulasta injection (Claritin doesn't help) and eating/drinking the 10 days following chemo. I had anosmia/parosmia prior to cancer diagnosis. Chemo makes everything including water taste like feces/rotten meat/bottom of the dumpster. I've lost 25lbs since the beginning of the year. I did find Orgain organic nutrition shake in vanilla this week. It is the only thing I can taste (vanilla) and doesn't have artificial sweeteners. I have a list of supplements but it is hard to take the fat soluble vitamins when you can't eat. I also love water but I struggle to even sip it. I've tried adding flavorings but nothing helps. My nutritionist and naturopath both want to help but at this point I just want to keep from losing more weight.

[@lf7065]

Are you able to enjoy citrus? It was a taste I could tolerate well. I also found beans & lentils, avocados, olive oil and macademia nuts helpful in keeping up with weight.

[@melanieadcock750]

The only flavor I can handle is vanilla. @@lf7065

[@barbaraenright200]

The two of these speakers are so vague and very routine, no evidence produced just standard and vague. Yet my doctor told me to not take supplements at all because they might interfere with the chemo. So this podcast leaves me even more annoyed

[@monaoshea1055]

Why don't you try omega 3 supplements to help with absorption? X

[@tedmetre6933]

my oncology doctor just told me my diet did not matter related to cancer treatment. thanks for this podcast i learned so much good info...thanks....

[@TargetCancer]

We're glad it was helpful. Cheers.

[@joankessel5850]

In addition to this beginner podcast, keep delving into more definitive non-registered dietitian, approved information.

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

The blonde needs to do more homework. "Study" is becoming a dirty word to me. The "world health organization," too. I trusted what the dark haired woman said more. Sorry, I didnt get the names. Perhaps that should be in the headline title.

[@judithcrotty6839]

Great topic. Well explained. Very helpful. Thanks so much!!😊

[@TargetCancer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Cajeput]

As a Chronic lymphocytic leukaemia patient I have learnt to my cost that supplements are dangerous if over used. I believed they accelerated me to treatment stage because they 'boosted' my B cells. I spend a lot of my time studying nutrition and how it supports (or not) my condition. After 3.5. years on treatment the hospital team are delighted with my sustained results and I feel great. Went to a nutrition/oncology company in Florida and now follow a tailored plant based, non dairy, food plan for my CLL and my drug. Their approach is based on research on how specific foods behave in the body for my CLL. They recommended only a few supplements: Vit D3, Pomegranate, lycopene, Vit C and iron. Everything else must come from specific foods e.g. no turmeric supplements but a smoothie with ginger, fresh turmeric in it is recommended. I think there needs to be more awareness by health professionals treating people for cancer on the benefits for nutrition specific for their cancer type. My cancer team just "glaze over" if I mention nutrition.

[@ripapart7174]

Very nice podcast .U are doing great Dr. I have recently learned about ferroptosis and JANE MCCLELAND about Metro Map.using food to defeat cancer ..It would be great if two would sit together

[@TargetCancer]

Many thanks for your comment and suggestion!

[@joankessel5850]

I have Research Jane , absolutely respect that woman!

[@conniecasas4955]

Gracias Doc!

[@premilabenjamin4444]

JESUS CHRIST himself took our infirmities and bore all our sicknesses. The LORD GOD our healer. Casting all your care upon him for he careth for you. But he was wounded for our transgressions,he was bruised for our iniquities:The chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. The prayer of faith will heal the sick. He sends his word and heals us. Believe on the LORD JESUS CHRIST and you and your family will be saved.

[@williamhenry3337]

Henry Kissinger's favorite foods were bratwurst (sausage) and wiener schnitzel (deep fried veal cutlets). Being German he most likely washed it all down with a beer. He lived to be 100 years old.

[@monaoshea1055]

Lucky chap

[@lisa-eg8nx]

What a great interview. Very helpful😊

[@TargetCancer]

Thanks for your feedback

[@markhogan77]

Excellent.. thank you 🙏

[@TargetCancer]

We're glad you found the information helpful.

[@HL-qv3yd]

It wasn't clear which herbs increase estrogen, can you please make a podcast about that please dr

[@TargetCancer]

Thank you for the suggestion

[@louispetrucco2580]

Your guest speakers need to present their findings in a serious way and not loose the content in smiles and frivolity. To me this stuff means life and death.

[@TargetCancer]

We appreciate your feedback!

[@cassieoz1702]

From my reading, noone has actually studied gut microbiome in folks eating whole foods keto or carnivore. Like the vegan research, most of the microbiome studies compare 'plant based' with SAD. Most of this stuff they're talking about is pretty weak correlative research. I thought the research on curcumin had been discredited due to research fraud.

[@lynlawley8903]

I agree with you on that and turmeric I do that at morning and turkey tail at night and also in the day I do food from Dr li and dr fung and listrn to Dr seyfied and finding about metabolic and keto diets vit d s and k2 also vit c and pomigranet s also low carbs n nuts to help

[@kazoz3520]

What about Christopher Gardner and the Sonnenburgs (Erica & Justin) microbiota research? Gardner always stresses the need to compare high quality diets. Eg, if comparing low carb to low fat diets, both arms need to be healthy diets (eg, no ultra processed foods in either diet).

[@cassieoz1702]

@kazoz3520 Gardner 'accidentally' showed the superiority of a keto diet years ago and has been trying to rectify his mistake ever since. One of his last studies changed the goalposts (measured end points) mid-project. His department is heavily funded by the fake meat industry and, despite his avuncular demeanour, I don't trust him one bit.

[@shus5787]

Dr Siegfried?

[@beatstime7727]

our patient is at 4 stage breast cancer the cancer has spread in liver and body she is young and her position is serious no doctor is ready to cure her in this position plz plz what should i do we are from Pakistan

[@joankessel5850]

Look up Dr. Thomas Seyfried, hours of KZbin videos. Short version, get a Keto-Mojo meter or any kind of blood glucose meter and a ketone meter. There is a calculation called GKI. I have met a person in there now 50s who was diagnosed with GBI in their 40s. It’s been seven years! Hundred percent keto diet very strict. He is alive and doing well. That is one story, not a guarantee. My best of skill to you, because Luck runs out.

[@marieperez5100]

Just saw video and halfway I stopped watching it.

[@hastihoseini4865]

Very disappointing . Lot's of fruits and vegetable? Wrong guideline. I show you where the guideline comes from. I will share the video below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGGrZ3aFdt1oiKssi=oEa-9lmj8TBycpos What about dr Seyfried work? They comparing plants based to standard American diet not a better or more optimal diet like carnivore or ketogenic diet.

[@joankessel5850]

These ladies have stuck a toe at the edge of the box, but none of their toes reached over the box of Registered Dietitian, remember who pays for their books? The big agriculture and pharma. My first 12 chemo for estrogen positive breast cancer; registered dietitian was not happy when I sent the volunteer away who had a basket of candy she was trying to get me to eat it while I was being given chemo . The RDs said enjoy it won’t it won’t hurt- in 2019. I also got pushback from the nurses when I fasted, they had never heard of the word autophagy. Keep doing your own research!

[@lifeinsuranceguru]

Neither were very knowledgeable about nutrition. Very disappointed. Especially recommending a plant based diet. Nonsense. It's nutritionally deficient. Get someone familiar with a keto and carnivore diet. Denise Potter, Beth Zupac

[@joankessel5850]

She says plant-based diet. But it took a while for her to describe that plant-based diet as meat once a day, including chicken and red meat and the rest vegetables. Sounds very ketogenic to me and she poo poo the ketogenic diet versus a vegan/ vegetarian I don’t remember the term she used. This is really the most boring non-informational interview I’ve ever seen on this channel. On the reverse side, it’s nice to see some registered dietitians move away from their standard dogma and think. But they’re still thinking with inside the box.

[@kendras.9601]

What is Proton therapy

[@barbaraenright200]

Every vague piece if advice "eat lotscof fruits and vegetables". They oresent ni eveidence cutings at all, just lots of suggestions that this might work or that might work.