Tariffs Explained to MAGA by a Professional Importer/Exporter

[@Blahajzilla]

"I love the uneducated!" - Trump.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

If you could teach maga...

[@feline-n6b]

@@ThatOpalGuy you can’t teach them anything

[@bobbyb9757]

They buy his Trump bibles that are made in China and cowboy Trump NFTs for 100 bucks a pop

[@liquidreality472]

It's almost as if we shouldn't allow everyone the privilege to vote

[@blazeroranger]

Its you guys, not us. We should had expensive foods, goodies and etc in 2016-2020. Same tariffs. Whats different? Yeah you guys uneducated

[@dinaanand6388]

The professional importer/exporter should get medal for his patience and such clear explanation

[@arnaudx2754]

I just listened your president, and he plans to lower taxes for US compagnies producing in the US, therefore it will reduce domestic product prices (supossing the elements composing the good create in US are not imported). ps: I also know some about import/ export.

[@Asmodis4]

@@arnaudx2754 depends, if those companies gave away such tax cuts to the consumer. what do you think how many billionaires will pocket this money and dont care. ps the "tariff" game can be played from BOTH ends, funny that. so, if a company is producing for the US and for foreign markets BEFORE the trade wars he DESPERATLY wants (only with the rest of the western world because, as he said in davos, "china is a good partner") and now foreign countries make MY product more expensive you gain a little bit domestic market but losing the export. no problem if the domestic people have ENOUGH money for that. But us citizen are struggling to pay rent and gtoceries, do you see the error of your ways?

[@dinaanand6388]

@@arnaudx2754 income tax comes off after profit, they don't decrease prices they increase profits. If you look at economic history since the 80's you will find decreases in income tax have never decreased prices.

[@judyives1832]

@@arnaudx2754 But he is only cutting taxes on the wealthiest corporations. Thereby creating huge monopolies and destroying competition. Smaller companies and all mom and pop businesses will be paying tarriffs without tax relief leaving them in an unsustainable market. Trump is effectively killing all but the few and workers will end up with very little choice for jobs and basically unable to quit. Trump has said he will remove minimum wages so the employers can pay less than 7.25. Trump has said he will increase the work week so employees can work more. He has also said he will remove or extend the age at which people can retire and to get rid of SSI so people can’t retire. Americans have voted themselves into slave labor.

[@leor7870]

​@@arnaudx2754Unfortunately the tax saved will go to the shareholders not the consumer. The recent inflation was caused by excessive coperate profits.

[@esbenm6544]

When prices went up during the pandemic, corporations passed 110% of the cost onto customers. The entire cost + a little extra for themselves. They are going to do the exact same thing with tariffs.

[@DavidBennell]

right, the 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico will end up increasing prices more like 30% because you know if you have to change the price you may as well take the opportunity to bump it a little further since you are already taking the pain anyway... And the best-case scenario is that now with the increased price, US companies' alternatives become competitive and can match the new increased import price... but either way that increases the price the consumer pays for it in the end, no way around that.

[@Dragonited]

Many increased the price with more then 110% of the increased cost.

[@mattROKX]

Let's be real it was closer to like 150% 😅

[@mrleafbeef634]

The government needs to cut down. Minimum wage lower. Taxes lowered.

[@plushgray]

"I'm not educated enough on this" is a wild last thing to admit in a conversation where he was previously trying to shout his beliefs

[@marambula]

probably the most intelligent thing he’s said in weeks

[@Elcore]

He's about to get a whole series of even tougher lessons over the next decade or two.

[@WiiAsian]

At least he had enough humility to reflect and admit he needed more information. That is a good thing, and we shouldn't bully others because they don't know everything.

[@askani21]

Well, better late than never loll I don't think it'll go far, but hey it's a start lolll

[@phukhu525]

@@WiiAsian no, but we shouldn't handle them with kid gloves either. Stern , but fair.

[@egx161]

WE CAN’T TAX ANOTHER COUNTRY

[@KG-fw5wk]

They are literally idiotic to think we can tax another country. They hate globalism, but then they’re all about globalist policies. Completely hypocrites and fools. Imagine being middle-aged and still figuring out how the economy and politics works.

[@Alblaka]

... actually, I think you can. If you sell the trade agreement for a transfer of national funds. Aka, a "pay us 20 cents per banana you want to export to us, and we'll give you a free trade agreement. Otherwise, we'll levy a tariff of 40 cents per banana." Just that I don't think this would be well received as a practice, and countries would just go "well sure, then go and screw over your own country's consumers, we'll just export to elsewhere in the meantime". Not entirely sure this would truly be a 'tax' rather than 'national level extortion'.

[@valoriethechemist]

@@Alblaka It's not a real tax even doing it in that manner... and ultimately, the local end customer pays. Essentially, ALL of it boils down to debt. Force the consumer to spend more so that their economic success is limited to merely paying the debts and force countries to bring on debt they'll never be capable of repaying so we can control them. We are being chained to the debt created by wealth inequalities of enormous proportions and shackled to wages so there's no escape.

[@earlr2992]

These idiots can't understand that.

[@thefozzybear]

But you can sanction them.

[@travisyarbrough4033]

Tariffs are a cost put on companies here and is passed on to consumers. PERIOD.

[@morbid747]

You couldn't wake up someone who pretend to sleep.

[@americaisdyingslowly]

Did this douche also take him to Biden and explain to him about tarrifs bc they were so bad Biden kept them..

[@pragmaticobserver1592]

He was being confused with facts that a 10 year old can grasp.There are not enough words to describe the ignorance and stupidity of the MAGA American Public

[@dangduong1581]

Exactly, no companies will ever handle those added cost and price is driven up to make up for it.

[@douglasainslie6938]

You're right and you can't say it any simpler than that but they still won't understand.

[@jayneroberts1236]

That man has so much patience

[@Kiskispal]

Both men did. You need that for real communication. Hats off to both.

[@ridhitaghose9796]

Comes from experience and confidence because he knows about tarrifs. He can spend days talking about it because that's his livelihood. We stopped listening to experts and we listen to fix news educated TV personalities and their uneducated opinions based on no experience at all.

[@Peter_1986]

That is the proper way to correct someone; criticise and correct their arguments, without attacking them with personal insults. Of course, this assumes that the person hasn't done something despicable, because in _that_ case he would certainly deserve to be insulted.

[@PunkinBeets]

When you’re dealing with toddlers you need patience

[@TalezFromTheStrip]

lol the MOST

[@JayMS916]

The confidence with which they express their ignorance is really something.

[@marambula]

it’s called faith, not confidence. it’s within the spectrum of beliefs instead of understanding.

[@perpetualgrimace2709]

Dunning Kruger effect

[@earlr2992]

This guy says he goes to China and he doesn't see buicks. I doubt this guy ever went to China ever. I actually go to china on business and there are American cars there. But the Chinese cars sell more.

[@Rissasaulgoodman]

@@marambulathats cool with religion not politics

[@nuxkamina]

He is explaining how the leader of USA has explained it to him.

[@chrisoconnor5880]

$7.50 an hour minimum wage is not looking after workers,,a minimum wage that hasn’t altered since 2009, is not looking after workers

[@JulianaBlewett]

Oh yeah, accounting for inflation insect activity , we should all be making over $25 an hour at minimum wage

[@karlito_ln7091]

It is compared to Chinese workers

[@holobolo1661]

Yeah I think he means in comparison to China which literally has slave labor.

[@fatboy5926]

Yeah I was about to say - I think he simply meant in relation to Chinese workers

[@07Flash11MRC]

That minimum wage needs to be at least triple.

[@mandybrown7758]

They are so brainwashed

[@ClauTo-oh5qu]

Brain dead- mentally ill.

[@marambula]

they think you’re being divisive and taking things too seriously if you correct them in their ignorance. hopeless

[@MrFace921o]

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels

[@feline-n6b]

@@marambula. Beyond de-programming

[@Kevin-lp3pu]

Just misinformed

[@raeted43]

just say a tariff is a import tax, paid by the local inporter to the government then passed on to the consumer.

[@remp919]

Bingo!

[@eyecu9746]

They will still REFUSE to understand. Their absorbing/learning is BLOCKED! Also, they would have to ADMIT they were wrong! 😮😢

[@Bound4Earth]

Even better call it a sales tax, to the consumer it works the same, and they understand sales tax. Just say it is applied before it hits the store because it is.

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

VP Harris said it over and over - I think she said it to Trump's face in their debate, he just said "no, it isn't." Others told Trump too; I remember an economist in one of those events Trump went to during his campaign, told him that tariffs are paid by consumers, he answered, "I don't believe it." So... If you are Trumpist and hear Trump saying over and over and publishing on his platform Agenda 47 that all the world will be paying tariffs to the USA, what would you believe? Trump or the fake media, which you don't watch anyway?

[@enjek5654]

That’s exactly what it actually is. The word tariff actually refers to the percentage or other rules that define how much import tax is to be paid. e.g. “Bananas imports are subject to a tariff of 8%”

[@NiGHTSaturn]

"You're confusing the question" is a wonderful way to correct someone politely and bring it back to the facts.

[@Adam.Langton]

Too late. In Canada, we learned about tariffs in junior high social studies. If baffles me that adults don't know, and can't be bothered to learn before deciding on them, and then voting for them. Wild.

[@rpgmakerbloodytutorials9486]

Then why is Canada going do tarrfs on the US possibly in retaliation to trump isn't that a terrible idea because Canadians pay the tarif on David pacmans channel there's a Canadian leader wanting to impose terrifs for retaliation of Trump's terrifs

[@sheilaneveu9121]

So true Adam!!! I'm Canadian as well, and I am shocked how many Americans don't know how they work, and if the tariffs on Canada, they will be paying more

[@rko1095]

And even though Canada and the US have a "Free Trade Agreement", renegotiated by Trump, Americans still pay a 14% tariff on Canadian softwood imports to build their homes.

[@mariae26]

It’s also sad that most adults in these united states don’t even know the difference between a pending charge, and authorized charge on a bank statement.

[@MeMeMe-Myself-And-I]

It's by design. Uneducated citizens are more gullible to all sorts of (mis) information. Just look at all the blatant lies the Führer 2.0 pumped out which were proven lies and yet his supporters believe every single word.

[@HooligansCycling]

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

[@Dreyno]

Never wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get covered in sh-t but the pig enjoys it.

[@visivox]

The stupid remain stupid, there is no pill to help them. - German folk saying,

[@mydude8061]

Or ignore solid arguments and continue to live in their own hubris... It gets frustrating.

[@linjea8503]

Yep

[@travisyarbrough4033]

Mark Twain !!!!

[@jilldlc4423]

The right person came in at the exact right time to drop some knowledge on someone who was certain they knew what they were talking about. Great video!

[@heartland96a]

I d trust someone with twenty years experience . Period . It’s how he makes money so he knows what he’s talking about and pulling it out of thin air

[@Dude-iw2qw]

The internet has made people experts at being dumb.

[@Dareios074]

I call it “diarrhea of knowledge”.

[@Dianne-r5p]

Best comment 🏅

[@rks5457]

And gullible

[@Akindone53]

It's deliberate if not just plain being lazy. The tool is useless if one insists to use a hammer when a screwdriver is called for.

[@Blackronin357]

The internet allowed morons to spew their nonsense and infect others. The internet still has good information, but some people don't want that information because it their biases won't agree with this new information and they don't want to be wrong or feel stupid. It's a bad cycle.

[@fiffy326]

it is like watching a child learn to read, truly fascinating

[@benzo___]

to a certain degree you gotta feel for these people, main reason they are voting Trump is just lack of education which you can't really blame them for, they live in a system that discourages and hinders that, that's part of the problem underfunded public schools, little paid vacation and spare time, low wages, privatized media, etc.

[@KainMcnab]

@@benzo___ Bullshit, it's a lack of integrity and intelligence. They have just the same opportunities to pull their heads out of their ass as the rest of us, they just choose not to, willful ignorance.

[@nickiwilliams546]

@fify your statement is so correct

[@andromidius]

Children tend to want to learn, though.

[@redlaserfox3988]

Being snotty doesn't really help tho Take the high road and help your fellow Americans learn

[@stephanbosch225]

"We take care of our workers". Hahaha. Yeah, $7 an hour. Good grief these people are ignorant.

[@theresa922]

More than China but all depends what state you live in here. Bessent can’t even make the fed min wage to 7.25.

[@CrabRango]

Could be wishful thinking on my part but I think that was a statement made for the sake of argument. Comparatively, we are doing a much better job at taking care of our workers; though that isn't to say there aren't still massive problems in terms of American labor conditions to be worked out.

[@WillyJWill]

You should see China and try being lower class there. No one can even legally make $7 an hour here.

[@dsalvatier]

He walked away with knowledge, but no smarter. Your patience is exemplary.

[@Asmodis4]

they are building their personality around trump or maga. proofing them wrong is a direct attack on that personality. people, in general, dont like it when the foundation of there core believe and personality gets attacked, even if this thread is imagined. you cant persuate them away from that. people always ask why the germans dont cease fighting even in late april 1945, THIS is the reason. the ONLY way to get those people back is when THIS system gets total shattered. The republicans must guide this country in a hellhole of inflation and recession, best combined with an unpopular war and THAN people will crack and abandone this cult.

[@fitnesse9055]

"Wisdom is chasing you, but you are faster!"

[@TallDiana]

Trump voters, when presented with facts and evidence, usually react with disbelief. 🤡

[@bereal6590]

They only believe their orange god!

[@mrswagpunk]

A guy gets smarter by regularly trying to learn, an argument with an expert isn't gonna get him anywhere but it might get him to try and learn more about how tariffs actually work.

[@IGiganticusI]

MAGA's & Rightwingers are always such a prime examples of the dunning kruger effect.

[@alastairgreen2077]

MAGAs

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

We don't have to purchase imports. We do have to pay a fine for working.

[@luisguillermoviruesdelgadi182]

Dunning Kruger is about overconfidence, not iliteralism about a topic. Just trying to help here.

[@youneverknow1316]

@@luisguillermoviruesdelgadi182 The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people wrongly overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area. This tends to occur because a lack of self-awareness prevents them from accurately assessing their own skills.

[@tekaz84]

​@@user-zu5do6ri6r WTF are you yammering about.

[@lovelyskull3483]

Every American needs to watch this. Also what a respectful, reasonable group discussing without anger. Bravo!

[@firejaw6459]

“I don’t know, I don’t know enough to debate what you’re telling me” Then shut up and listen.

[@firejaw6459]

@ Yes, because his version of things is simple. Good guys, bad guys, making the world “fair”. The wool is very comfy.

[@rayw2977]

He isn’t trying to debate he is trying to educate.

[@WookieWarriorz]

depends brother, maga people pretend to be experts then people sit and listen to their dogshit and believe it. Listening is good but also so is critical thinking.

[@lorehammer40k4]

Hey, he never said that he wasn't still going to try, pidgeon-playing-chess style.

[@KickinRadTopHat]

"My understanding is..." Your understanding is wrong, so it's time to start over.

[@Collins311]

"i can't counter that, i don't have the information". MY GUY HE JUST GAVE YOU THE INFORMATION!!!

[@euenfheiejrj]

“I need to hear what Fox News tells me to respond back.”

[@bobagorof]

You can't counter the information when you started out with no information. Now that you have the information, it's incumbent on you to update your position.

[@chrispswann6825]

Wal-mart buys a hat made in China for $10 and sells it to an American customer for $13. With a 25% that hat will now cost $12.50. Do you still think they'll sell it for $13? Of course not. That hat now sells for $15. So thanks to the tariff, that hat now costs an extra $2 - paid by the American customer. Now take that example and multiply it by hundreds of billions throughout all industries. Get ready for prices to skyrocket. A tariff is a tax and it's a tax that 's paid by the consumer. Not the country making the product.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The other way to Phrase it is, CHINA still gets their "Global price" of "$10"

[@Transforming2024]

Now I know why Trump is shutting down the department of education. It’s absolutely useless to fund education when it’s not working.

[@alisonb5796]

😂

[@goat369]

Yeah shits CLEARLY not working lmao

[@gaden002]

He is shutting it down because the people than run the private schools are paying him to.

[@username7763]

In the USA, education is primarily funded by local taxes (often property taxes) along with state aide. The federal government pays for a percentage of school funding but it is quite low compared to local + state. I don't have a lot of knowledge over all of what the department of education does or it's merits, but I'm not concerned over lack of school funding.

[@blindbrad4719]

Well yeah, when religious schools teach Bible instead of evolution, it's no wonder it's not working. It's easy to neglect critical thinking skills when standardised tests are as useless as they are. Jon Oliver does a great bit about it on here

[@timstatham3635]

Voting for something you have absolutely no idea about = the Law of BREXIT

[@lythalls]

👏👏👏👏

[@Charmony0815]

Haha true. Was a big shock for lot of brits and it took half decade to finished the "deal". Greetings 🇩🇪

[@Little_Sidhe]

Swathes of voters wanted Brexit because England is desperate to close their borders to invaders and protect their children, not everything is about money.

[@sarahclifford2015]

And it has turned out a disaster for us Brits. We will regret it even more now with Trump in power as we are floundering on our own. We would be in a lot stronger position if we had stayed in the EU.

[@Tonykayemusic]

Bang on.

[@MrCarloszeca]

At the end of the story, China doesn't pay the tariff neither USA, it is the consumer.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

IF you're an American, I would be asking not only "who pays it" but "WHERE DOES IT GO?"

[@MrRecrute]

@@rogerstarkey5390the money goes to the consolidated revenue of the government.

[@shawnaford5540]

That was amazing, especially as the person finally recognized that maybe he did not understand the tariff process. He might not of been fully convinced. What an excellent example from the importer on how to inform.

[@alastairgreen2077]

He might not have been, not of been.

[@Ten2More]

But not understanding didn’t prevent his strong opinion in 1st place. Not ashamed to sound foolish.

[@shawnaford5540]

@@Ten2MoreYou have to start somewhere and I am probably the worst at reading people I sensed a ‘pause’ or room for him to explore new ideas.

[@randallcline1176]

If he were to accept what the importer told him, that would mean that his lord and savior orange jesus would be wrong. And that's unacceptable in the cult of tRump.

[@Alblaka]

@@Ten2More Ye. Him going 'welp, guess I was wrong' in the end doesn't mean hes the next saint. But it's a silver lining.

[@ginabc123]

Walter. You are a National Treasure! This is so profound

[@waltermasterson]

Thank you

[@dynastysfl2292]

​@@waltermastersonkeep up the fight. Godspeed you stay safe as these fascists feel more brazen.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

He'll be an enemy of the state, soon.

[@EthelMaeHenderson]

@@waltermasterson Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements. By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.

[@jasonpotts6490]

You should get that guy to do some events with you to help the maga become more aware of what a tariff is and who pays for it. Great video!

[@jeremyparrish1013]

I do want to point out this is one of the most calm maga supporters I’ve ever seen and he actually listened so let’s give him some props for that because even though he may not know what he was talking about he actually listened and was respectful and willing to be educated on something. If every maga supporter was like this guy we would actually make some progress as a country so props to him🎉

[@anonymousnudibranch7444]

I saw one of them in a Klepper interview the other day that also listened and admitted he had not done enough research. The optimist in me wants to believe that they're starting to doubt what they've been told but I've just seen too much stupidity and doubling down to really be able to hope anymore.

[@godsend2297]

As bad as he was he was calm and willing to listen...That is for a MAGA man.🙄

[@goddessgia27]

You don't get special credit for being able to engage in civilized conversation. That is the bare minimum.

[@brook_angel]

​@@goddessgia27the bar is 5 feet under ground

[@lauracraig8110]

Yes honestly he did not shout or yell, he listened... he did not quite grasp it maybe, but he atleast listened. If only people would have done this before the damn election!

[@Tranquilized_]

I can't believe some of them still think the other country pays the tariff, i thought they swapped to "yeah we pay it but it's okay" already.

[@ebWhytt]

That was about the wall

[@5374seth]

“We’ll make them pay for it” 2.0 Can’t expect much from these lobotomy survivors

[@Alblaka]

@@ebWhytt "China will be paying the tariffs the same way Mexico has paid for the wall. Stop expecting that yelling "AMERICA FIRST" will somehow persuade foreign governments to give us money." should be a straight forward and intuitive argument.

[@MrWeiskog]

Even if the other country was paying the tariffs, they would just increase their prices to cover the costs.

[@elmoredneal5382]

​@@MrWeiskog Exactly! Anybody who has the ability to pass those tariffs along to somebody else is going to do it! They'd be a fool not to. The only people who can't pass the tariff along to somebody else are the end consumers

[@JimmyBoah]

I like that you're actually educating instead of trolling. Good stuff.

[@s44577]

"My understanding." That's the problem. He doesn't, and he doesn't want to. This is an EXCELLENT presentation and discussion of how this things work in practical society.

[@yoyoyo3531]

While we the people do bare the cost of the tariffs, trumps threats to raise them so high still is a bad thing for the other countries. As if the tariffs they are high, then the price goes up. You guys in America won't buy them. Which then hurts the other countries that want to sell products to America.

[@Monkeyz218]

@@yoyoyo3531to a point that is true. But on things like agriculture they take their business elsewhere. His first term hit farmers the worst where close 50% of money in farming was subsidized by the government. China turned around and went to South America. They could grow the crops and trade with them for cheaper forever hurting the trade with china leaving farmers hurt. So yes it works for some products, but not all.

[@crunch1167]

its a bad thing just for america, tariffs cause inflation, greedy companies that do manufacture in the US will also raise the prices because they can use that inflation as an excuse

[@marznstarzz]

I can't believe that ended so peacefully with the guy admitting he wasn't educated enough on the subject.

[@EthelMaeHenderson]

Trump's proposed tariffs are not intended to be permanent fixtures of U.S. trade policy but rather tools for negotiation. The idea is to use tariffs as leverage to compel trading partners to make concessions that benefit U.S. industries and address unfair trade practices. This strategy puts pressure on other nations to reduce barriers to U.S. exports, eliminate subsidies that disadvantage American companies, or agree to more equitable terms in trade agreements. By implementing or threatening tariffs, the goal is to create a sense of urgency for other countries to come to the negotiating table. Once the desired agreements are reached, the tariffs can be reduced or removed, making them a temporary measure designed to shift the balance of trade in favor of the United States. This approach aims to secure long-term economic advantages without committing to long-term protectionist policies.

[@tmasst07]

A good deal of MAGA folks are just idiots but not inhumane. They can be reasoned with. A lot but not all.

[@MelioraCogito]

Yet he was so convinced he was right with what little information he possessed. 🤦🤦‍♂🤦‍♀ That, my dear friend, is called the *_Dunning-Kruger Effect:_*_ ‘Those who know the_ *least* _think they know the_ *most.’* - _“What’s curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.”_ -Dr. David Dunning - _“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed (21 Jan 1980)

[@baax]

And yet he voted for it.

[@danorr83]

@@EthelMaeHendersonThat's called extortion

[@Joe_Sheffield]

We need more calm discussion like this.

[@Katimashi]

Lol calm discussion with maga. That actually made me chuckle.

[@lead_guitarist9489]

The calm conversations have been buried by the right since at least the 80,s .

[@childoftheuniverse2644]

With whom? 😂

[@claudiodidomenico]

A lot of people are clowning on the guy but I wish all maga people were like that. He actually listened and admitted he didn't know enough about it in the end.

[@lead_guitarist9489]

@claudiodidomenico i get your point ,but that guy was busy arguing with folk that had knowledge as he was busy arguing his point instead of taking his point at face value the way they swollow the lies told to him by his choice of people.

[@honkymonkey9568]

Maybe if they just called it an import sales tax, it would rattle people so much. When you buy a loaf of bread, who pays the tax? The store selling the bread or the person buying the bread?

[@alvarezfam1]

Thank you 👏👏👏

[@RobertMcSherry]

Not sure they would even understand that, dumd it down even further.

[@TheInsaneShecklador]

In most states there is no tax on groceries but I do understand the point you are making.

[@Kitkat014]

i was pleased to see this was a kind and productive conversation, shaking hands at the end, and it didn't devolve into anything bad like name calling there was slight interruption but overall, a productive discussion. 10/10

[@otsom1986]

This fool doesn’t want the truth; he’s drunk on the stupid Kool-Aid.

[@ajkulac9895]

He can't handle the truth

[@tezz2698]

Nah, he seemed willing to listen and acknowledged his own ignorance. You have to keep in mind that the vast majority of people (including you I bet) won't change their minds during an argument. They change their minds later when they reflect on the argument and realize that it makes sense and that they can't counter it. Not only is that natural, it's good. People shouldn't change their minds without thinking the new stance through and verifying its arguments. It's also why respectful conversation is imporant.

[@geraldcarrington134]

@@tezz2698 Respectful yes, but When? today Maga Mike reinstated a new round of investigations over Jan 6th, until the American people get serious and get out there and Vote these people out, this circus will travel with us ad infinitum.

[@spesaudax]

Walter's zoom in look at the camera when the importer steps in is so....*chefs kiss*

[@Harderanger]

Got to appreciate the rare moments when we witness a genuine political discussion in the US. Fair play to each guy there.

[@la7dfa]

MAGA "wins" because they are millions of clueless people repeating Trump and FOX NEWS. The lies are just simplified and choke all facts.

[@SnakePlissken001]

This was definitely one of the best impromptu segments I've seen. Great job, to the random business owner who stepped in when he saw the opportunity.

[@tinat.4508]

Thank you for debating these issues with people.. that is the only way to get informed.. we can't rely on billionaires who own all of the news outlets.

[@morvent9668]

I guarantee this guy didn’t walk away from the conversation with more information. Trump supporters want to validate their existing position, they don’t actually care about the truth.

[@dh7314]

Importer guy was fascinating, I learned a lot here

[@rogerstarkey5390]

No real disrespect, but that in itself is "worrying"

[@SpaceyMoth29]

I’m trying so hard to not feel defeated and hopeless, but it’s getting really hard.

[@firstlastlastfirst7143]

Welcome to the club, been here since 2003.

[@thomaslawson7689]

Hang in there, you are NOT ALONE

[@lordlemond1350]

Yep. Even if you can get them to understand tariffs.. you then have to educate on infrastructure! 🤦‍♂️

[@jesipohl6717]

@@thomaslawson7689 the thing is a lot of us are, because the centrists are now moderate fascists and the democrats have given up the point on queer and women's rights, immigration and participation in various g3n0c1d3s. But it was always like this, the US was founded by plutocrats and is still run by them today.

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

@lordlemond1350 Much of our infrastructure is unnecessary.

[@maddog2314]

"I just want it to be even" Bro, the absolutely absurdly cheap stuff we get from china easily shows that he's wrong. I can get a shirt off of alibaba and the shipping will be twice as much as the price of the shirt. He sees "trade deficit" and has no clue what it means.

[@dooshkid]

🎯🎯

[@DimaRakesah]

Also the obsession with being a manufacturing based economy with the assumption it's always better is baffling.

[@deanolium]

@@DimaRakesahespecially as cost of living and labour laws means things produced in the US will always be more expensive than places like China and the third world. All tariffs can do is make those external options expensive enough to the American consumer to match US manufactured stuff. But the difference in cost is so vast it will just massively reduce demand anyway. Meanwhile there’s other markets for these countries, so whilst yes there will be harmed, it won’t be anywhere near as much as the US will be harmed. The sad thing is how they never understand or think this through. Thinking external governments pay for access on a tariff basis is just insane and detached from reality. Or that making American manufacturing competitive will mean everyone will keep their quality of life. We’re all used to having incredibly complex things for incredibly low prices, and I don’t think people realise that’s only down to being able to get things for cheap through third world labour.

[@Rickristian]

This man needs to volonteer and teach the entire population the exact business realities. Worthy of award.

[@thorn6809]

President McKinley has been an advocate for tariffs and has used them intensively until he had to accept that they don't work.

[@JB-yb4wn]

He also got shot.

[@jarlskellington4654]

It's so hard to change these people's minds. They always choose to try to win an argument instead of becoming educated on a topic they seem to care about.

[@Brigantia11]

It's hard to change something that is not even there anymore

[@letsgochamp2023]

We are all wrong about one thing or another. This guy is willing to listen, and also well mannered, so good for him.

[@trova4725]

shoutout to my 9th grade history teacher / 12th grade sociology teacher for informing my class about tariffs bc somehow its not a basic thing we learn in every high school curriculum 😭😭😭

[@JaneDoe-b5v]

It's a beautiful thing when people with knowledge and experience help others. Thank you

[@HaroldHawley]

I don't think he educated that man at all.......when it was explained to him, he was still trying to argue that tariffs made money for the country.

[@shmixedNshmooved]

The man walked away with a lesson and yet didn't digest any of its information. My hat's off to the man who took the time out of his day to explain, but it was unfortunately ineffective. It was equivalent to teaching a brick wall.

[@_stefano7194]

Actually good to see that he genuinely seemed to be willing to listen and understand at some point

[@Sorcerons]

Props to the guy for listening and not shrugging it off after really hearing the importer

[@Dianne-r5p]

He knew all he had was rhetoric

[@williamyamm8803]

Hello from France They should open school books instead of watching Netflix all day long.

[@username7763]

Books? In 'merica, our schools give kids iPads.

[@julie3895]

Hello from the U.S. , you’re absolutely right.

[@Nun195]

Unfortunately they really needed to do it 60 years ago.

[@ocmetals4675]

@@Nun195 Yup, cuz that's who voting now.

[@gatamadriz]

Love the importer/exporter speaking the truth.

[@yourseatatthetable]

That older man was taught this at his high school. All public high schools back in the 70's and 80's (class of 85' here) were taught, both in Government class and in Economics class what tariffs are and how they work. I was, at best, a C student and I know this. I used to feel that I was the stupid one, you know? But man...

[@ToyZee-l7y]

They still do but football is more important

[@breathoffreshair7795]

i was in highschool 9 years ago- i assure you this a united states allowing control over citizens via corporate power of government (states and fed) issue and not a time period issue. i use to bring up how things seemed to constantly contradict each other (in classes) and was always made the mock kid for it- even viewed as a radical in my teen years for simply pointing out the obvious...? the united states was built to prop corporate interest thus the publically funded systems the politicians control (which corporations fund) directly support corporate interest beyond all else.

[@lorihamlin3604]

When you believe in & voted for t, all prior common sense & knowledge went out the back door and whatever t says it’s okay..you know because he’s such a brilliant businessman and so rich. I hear this daily from t devotees. They were all doing so much better during the 4 years he was in office..whether they were or not. These are not uneducated people I’m talking about..they’re dyed in the wool R who seem to not have realized R party is no longer. It’s now t party. They hear praise of t in their churches, at local board meeting, around the lunch table at the diner. I seldom venture out any more..these are my relatives & former coworkers that have lost my respect. It’s best to just avoid them and sit back & watch the s…show.

[@Alblaka]

Duning Kruger effect. If you think you're smart, you're probably stupid. If you think you're stupid, you're almost certainly smart.

[@RubbishFPS]

Amazing what years of brainwashing and propaganda will do. That party is wild. Just let them openly hate others and they will lap up whatever they are told.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

Dude was owned in the first 2 minutes, but didn't even realize it.

[@duanedrouillard2495]

But it was a respectful conversation, both ways

[@wesrobmat]

He was owned by anyone. That’s a stupid American analogy when someone loses an argument. But if that someone learns something in the proses and takes away a positive then they were not owned they were educated. The mentality of owning someone in an argument is what makes Trump the fktard that he is. Because now he can never admit fault in fear of being embarrassed. Childish.

[@docmar42011]

This is the problem with MAGA, they automatically become an expert on anything trump says

[@MGLK20]

That man showing up that like that was beautiful. 😂

[@medusagorgon9]

They were so worried about the price of eggs! Now they can pay thrice the price for everything.

[@FOTOFELICIA]

Great discussion and done so with class. Even the maga guy was able to have a respectful discourse on it, and acknowledged middle ground. You just don’t see that often anymore!

[@VIMaggotVIBrainzVI]

Minor props to this guy, he was able to at least keep an open mind and let the importer/exporter explain the full process without shouting him down. He even displayed humility at the end, although only time will tell if he truly absorbed the lesson here. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, so maybe he did. He didn't come off as one of the more stupidly aggressive MAGA koolaid guzzlers that you tend to run into when you do these videos

[@Levittchen4G]

Agreed!

[@Codisrocks]

Nah. He just got scared and went home to brag about getting rid of foreigners like that guy and how we're going to make so much money off these countries. These people aren't going to listen to anyone that isn't angry and white.

[@martinfischer2663]

Walter strikes gold once again! Thanks Walter, you're the best!

[@rkadius001]

He fooled you. He omitted the facts why tarrifs are good.

[@paulgough48]

How so​@@rkadius001

[@georgehatfield9473]

Excellent video! Now I get it. Tariffs will bring money into the Federal government, but it will be like a sales tax or VAT for US consumers since the cost of the tariff will be added to every imported product we buy that has a tariff. A very regressive tax.

[@bigdills]

Beanie glasses came in with one of the best assists in game history

[@LearningStill354]

Crazy how we learn this in 4th grade in the Caribbeans, mainly because how much U.S tariffs and economic policy has screwed our island over the decades. The absurdity does not even end there, the idea is that we are going to manufacture here only and that any food product from overseas will instead be grown here as well. Not only do we have hundreds of factories that we depend on overseas, if we decided to just build the same amount here that would take years and trillions of dollars that we do not have. By then prices will be taller than a skyscraper, and people will be very hungry and angry.

[@owlbluemonday6400]

Where?

[@LearningStill354]

@@owlbluemonday6400 Dominican Republic.

[@MaryLopez-ku1qz]

Thanks for trying to explain in a gentle way, soon people will understand directly, sad to say! So many uneducated were fooled.

[@yoyoyo3531]

Putting High tariffs is still leverage to use against other countries regardless if we pay for it.

[@SeanLamb-I-Am]

That gentleman really explained it well. Also kudos to the other gentleman for listening and seemingly actually trying to learn. I greatly appreciate intelligent conversations like this where people who do have different views can sanely and constructively teach each other.

[@PieceOfHeavenxo]

I agree. It warms my heart to see these individuals engage in such a respectful and real way.

[@dfitz6614]

This guy can't hear anything they're saying. He refuses to listen.

[@viktordtz2080]

Tariffs Explained to MAGA " Explain serious problem to maga and hope they understand something is the same thing that looking a river and wait the moment where the the river flows in the opposite direction.... You lose you time!!!

[@TheRelevantUnknown]

Wow. He listened enough to realize he didn’t understand what tariffs are. He actually changed a belief in six minutes. Pretty amazing to me.

[@007floppyboy]

UK dude here. Before Brexit we (our company) bought stuff from Europe, tariff free. Now, after Brexit, we have to pay an import tariff. That now gets past on to my customer, in the UK, and as the price is higher, they pay more VAT if they ae the end user. (Double loss)

[@MeMeMe-Myself-And-I]

I grew up in Europe. There are diverse discussion panels on all sorts of TV stations all the time, where people from all walks of life discuss in this format and it's always informative, enlightening and (mostly) civil discourse. Your video today reminded me of that, and I wish there would be more content like this. Many people here are un/miseducated. A civil discussion is more fruitful in the long term than the constant belittling on all sides. People just end up arguing and not listening to each other. Great job, Walter. ❤

[@vodkaboy]

it's not the case anymore in a several European countries, like France, Hungary, Italy.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

George Costanza was an importer exporter

[@waltermasterson]

Vandalay baby

[@iainherridge6253]

Who wanted to focus more on the importing & less on the exporting 😊

[@Jethro7e]

Matches. Long matches.

[@tekaz84]

And a latex salesman!

[@dvhughesdesign]

Yes...but he really made a fortune in latex sales.

[@thecapone45]

This was such a good talk and I think there is hope for the man. He was willing to listen to facts. I encounter people on the right who do NOT want to listen and instead listen to themselves explain things how they THINK the world works.

[@hueywallop2461]

We used to teach this stuff in high school.

[@otho69AD]

Honestly props to this guy for keeping an open mind and actually trying to hear the importer out

[@blue.goldfish]

I want to call to attention the following: Most everybody in this here comment section seems to drag down that individual for "shouting their beliefs" - but this was, in fact, a very patient, and RESPECTFUL conversation. And ultimately, that's what made this person even consider the idea that their beliefs may be wrong. I feel, we as one humankind on earth, need more of such conversations; loving, open, honest, without aggression, simply debating over what we believe is true. This may not have been an exchange where they saw eye to eye, and of course patience in itself is already implying that one person has a higher standard of knowledge than the other. But everyone walked away at the very least neutral, at best happy or with some thoughts brewing within them, or both! And this, everhbody, is worth so much. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@beachlol]

Facts

[@TheInternetIsDeadToMe]

“It’s like explaining Norway to a dog”

[@MikeHalsall]

The difference is that the dog isn't 100% confident he knows everything there is to know about Norway coming into the conversation. The dog will at least sit and listen patiently with its head cocked, hoping for a treat - not bathing in his own hubris while being confidently incorrect.

[@sparky4878]

Jackson Lamb, genius.

[@jonasdrejerjensen]

A big kudos for arguing with "I don't know, that is beyond my expertise, but thats not the point of the argument" so many more people would be able to understand each other, if they were able to find the limit of their knowledge.

[@breathoffreshair7795]

and respect their own limitations vs let their ego mislead them into ignorant confidence! these individuals dont realize how much theyre shorting themselves

[@kamilmajdanik8834]

That kid made a point that Trump till this day doesn’t understand. Buying cheap low quality stuff made by workers working for nothing isn’t bad. Same applies to things that are important for the country like energy from Canada or technology, or rare early materials from Greenland. It’s a privilege to have access to these and buy them at low cost. And you know what we have smart people doing research in economics and trade since many years. What do they say?

[@visivox]

"The consumer bears the cost." Absolutely! Three outcomes of the import under tariff: (1) the importer absorbs the increased cost of the tariff, (2) the importer absorbs part of the increased cost and passes the remainder to the American consumer and (3) the total cost increase cost is passed through to the America consumer. Which is scenario is most likely to occur (1), (2), or (3)? A possible knock on effect of tariffs. The price of an identical product made in the USA will rise to meet the new cost of the imported product subject to the tariff.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

My Hypothesis. Donny thinks that China is SO eager to be in the US market that they will send product anyway. THEN He thinks the US consumer will pay the price. THEN his idea is to take the money he "Skimmed" and use it to........ ? MAYBE Bail out the failing US industry? Build factories to compete with China? ....... That MIGHT work until... 1) The US public figure out THEY are being screwed [although on the evidence here.... they might not?] or 2) The Chinese think "Hold on!! OUR reputation is being tarnished! AND he's using OUR product to build competition!!" Then THEY might decide to use "inside sources" to blow the whistle... OR They might just say "We have PLENTY of market Globally, DO NOT send the product to USA" THEY will make exactly the same profit selling their "Overproduction" to The Global South" (AKA "the Global MAJORITY")

[@wakemiamigreatagain]

This is one person out of millions. I am so happy that he listened and seemed to grasp this one issue. Hopefully, he will continue to listen to reasonable people and learn. We have been trying to tell them and explain it to them in every possible way, but since so many of them perceive us as the "enemy," they refuse to listen and bury their heads in the sand.

[@brittafrier2430]

This was legendary! To be fair, I don't think the poor bloke was a MAGA-MAGA, he was just republican, and not understanding. He was polite, and actually trying to participate in the discussion.

[@marcisunshine18]

1:30😂😂😂😂 can we all take a moment and appreciate the amount of sarcasm that comes through Walters face with just a simple look.. that’s some powerful shit man😂😂

[@Swnsasy]

The confidence in this means ignorance is mind boggling 🤯

[@MajorSaintValentine]

It boggled my mind that anyone thinks this is how tariffs work. How the hell would we be able to force a country to PAY us to buy their goods, like how does that make any sense, thatd be like me going into a mcdonalds and saying to the cashier "ill only eat the big mac if you pay me 5 bucks to do so" like they would laugh at me and carry on

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The country of "FACTORY" comes to you and says "Our global price for Widgets is $10... That' s our BEST price" You say "We have 20% "Tariff" ....YOU pay it! We'll give you $8!" They'll be gone before you know it.

[@Levittchen4G]

Y'all are doing gods work, educating people with so much patience. It's really criminal how much politicians mislead people on purpose.

[@suburbanhousewife40]

If only MAGA would listen to their fellow Americans!

[@JulianaBlewett]

It's amazing how confident they are in their ignorance.

[@ListenUpDemocracy]

These people are in a cult. Nothing can deter them unless they feel the pain themselves and even then they will blame everyone else for their plight.

[@-Doomer-]

You pretend you're not but you are too

[@-Doomer-]

@@CarRamRod-i9o well joke on you I don't like either side. Both groups act like they are supporting their favorite sport teams. While the same group of people at the top fuck us all. Both sides are wrong and right. Also it is not that one side is dumber or smarter and that we want different out comes

[@mailelouie658]

Give that import-export man a KZbin channel! He’s awesome!

[@annac5059]

I am SO happy you made this video! Unfortunately, I think many people are under the misconception that these tariffs imposed on foreign goods are "punishing" the foreign countries. However, the fact is the ultimate outcome is we the Americans will and already bearing the costs of these tariffs, such as goods are not longer as cheap as they were at Walmarts, Costco, Department stores...etc. ....I just wish thr TV stations also promote this information so the people can see through the lies.

[@king2178]

"My understanding..." That's the problem with these people. They don't understand how anything works, but they're so quick to act like an expert.

[@Farts-and-Humanities]

This moment brought to you by the Dunning-Kruger effect, lol

[@philipbyrnes7501]

A very fair and important point to consider is that this isn’t an opinion to be agreed upon or not, it’s just a simple fact

[@mandybrown7758]

Great video I love the intelligence of that man in the green and young man

[@matthightower1570]

"Never try to teach a pig to talk. It wastes your time and annoys the pig."

[@ClaytonJonesImages]

We got to this point by having people believe their personal opinions on random crap outweigh expert, experience-based, and scholarly advice

[@xq8152]

So that guy in the beanie is the real Art Vandalay?

[@oskich]

Latex is all the rage nowadays

[@BrickGriff]

"And we take care of our workers!" * dry hissing inhale of disagreement * Maybe relatively, sure.

[@manderly33]

Yeah. Of course it depends on the business and the industry, but I think people don’t realize how much there is in place to protect people. Even workplace harassment laws are vastly more comprehensive than most people realize, and I know this because I have to take a harassment course every year. And then I talk to randos, and their idea of what is legal in the workplace is wildly off.

[@bottlesalts]

Not all workers in America get the same benefits, for sure, but as a generalization, some of our poorest working conditions pale in comparison to China's worst. All I'm saying is that the US have made laws against sweatshops that are at least enforced.