[TAS] Super Smash Bros. 4 3DS: Classic Mode 9.0 Ganondorf (No Damage)

While admittedly less impressive than a 9.0 Wii U finish thanks to not having the Master Fortress, I'm still happy that I was able to do this because it proved my hypothesis regarding the emulator's desync problems.
The key to solving the entire problem was backing up and restoring the save data for the game every single time I closed and re-opened the emulator. The only desync that occurred in the process of making this was a standard input error that happens on practically every TAS-capable emulator out there.
As for the actual TAS: Again, not really much aside from reads and some perfect shields. Do you expect me to perform intricate 0-deaths with Ganondorf of all characters?
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[@DyllonStejGaming]

This was done without custom equipment or custom moves. In this regard, Ganondorf is actually handicapped a bit. While admittedly less impressive than a 9.0 Wii U finish thanks to not having the Master Fortress, I'm still happy that I was able to do this because it proved my hypothesis regarding the emulator's desync problems. The key to solving the entire problem was backing up and restoring the save data for the game every single time I closed and re-opened the emulator. The only desync that occurred in the process of making this was a standard input error that happens on practically every TAS-capable emulator out there. As for the actual TAS: Again, not really much aside from reads and some perfect shields. Do you expect me to perform intricate 0-deaths with Ganondorf of all characters, in a Smash game with a combo game almost entirely based around 50/50's?

[@majztic]

All Star Mode next?

[@SmashCrafter321]

Is wii u TASing possible yet, let alone proper emulation?

[@DyllonStejGaming]

Cemu doesn't have TAS support yet, but it can properly emulate several games.

[@zernek9199]

Alternate title: Ganon styles on CPUs that read your inputs for 5 minutes

[@ikagura]

@June Smash 4 was not bad.

[@lukealias1uk345]

They read your inputs... oooh that explains why I am bad against level 9 CPUs in this game !

[@zernek9199]

Luke alias 1uk3 Oh yeah you literally cannot spike because they’ll always airdodge at the right time.

[@blackdot105]

@@zernek9199 I'm happy others are aware of that bullshit.

[@Jeffrydounut]

@Zernek Naw, y'all r just bad, the only kills I ever got on lv nine CPUs where spikes lol, and I understand how bullshit it was, but it was still fairly easy to DEMOLISH lv nines.

[@adelinehaley9428]

I miss when Ganonciding killed the opponent first. This really brings me back.

[@sonicgamer5905]

Don't forget bowsercide

[@PASTELXENON]

I miss when Ganondorf didn't have a sword for easy kills

[@sonicgamer5905]

@@PASTELXENON me too

[@rayminishi689]

@@PASTELXENON Don't get hit

[@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450]

He already has really stupid smash attacks, I think he’s fine lol. He’s already lame, we don’t need anymore lame points.

[@majimagoro1631]

VERSUS-

[@Iris_Descent]

Dyllon I hope you realize how utterly satisfying it is to watch the unfair Smash 4 CPUs get destroyed, and on Classic Mode 9.0 no less, where you take more knockback than normal

[@Mari-lg1wk]

You do?? I've played Smash 3DS for so long and never knew that lmao

[@GMKGoji01]

You were right about how impossible to beat the CPUs are in 9.0 difficulty.

[@Mario2980]

Ah yes, Free-for-all.... except the CPUs will still target the player and not fight each other...

[@Toadallythebest]

"nothing harder"

[@blackdot105]

@@AGZhark Ultimate's pretty easy in comparison imo. I found that the CPU in Smash 4 would almost always perfectly air dodge or shield your every move. It was awful.

[@doclouis4236]

Can we appreciate how much good content Smash 3DS had compared to WIi U.

[@EvilMariobot]

The 3DS got Diet Adventure Mode; and WiiU got... Mario Party.

[@doclouis4236]

@@EvilMariobot "Diet Adventure Mode" is still replayable compared to whatever Smash Tour was. With 80+ enemies in Smash Run, it's always fun to replay each time with a different character. And the fact that 3DS had a better Classic mode than Wii U, gives the 3DS version the slight edge in winning.

[@EvilMariobot]

@@doclouis4236 Preaching to the choir. I really don't think I missed out on much only having the 3DS version; except maybe Event Matches.

[@Spingerex]

@@doclouis4236 And I think the 3DS as a whole managed to outlive the Wii U by a bit longer...

[@TZMHBT]

@@Spingerex 3DS came out when the Wii was still thriving and only fell after the Switch was thriving. It's one of the reasons Nintendo got through the Wii U era.

[@rhythmatical5284]

2:44 bruh why was that so godly?

[@IgnatRemizov]

He stylin' on the Miis

[@KalokesMysteries]

One of my favorite moments

[@funkyboi3987]

Because it is

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Take a shot every time Ganondorf yells:"HUEEAGH!"

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

Are you trying to get people killed?!

[@aIkaIi]

Man, for some reason, I love these tp grunts. I'm not too much of a fan of his oot low voice, even though it might fit him better. I just feel the tp grunts have more oomph

[@funkyboi3987]

Im sO DRUnk i cAn BarLEY SEE!

[@CyanicCore]

no

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

@@CyanicCore ok

[@SpongeMattb]

You cant stop the DOORIYAH

[@aphato2770]

There is no Doriyah

[@destinee2052]

@@aphato2770 Okey jokey, mate

[@PASTELXENON]

Cringe

[@r04ch36]

It was always killing since Smash was existing

[@Salchichas38]

OOOOOORRRAAAaaa

[@shinobi_4d736]

Man smash 4 on 3DS was great

[@Mari-lg1wk]

It was

[@xangelxal4855]

Ikr, but it's also bad due to the 3ds circle pad, that forces you play not too aggresive with or else it could break, I learn that from the hard way

[@rmissing3361]

Was?

[@rmissing3361]

It still great my man

[@snackknight]

say what you will about 3DS smash 4 but nothing has beat smash run so far

[@Geneolgia]

The fact that Smash Bros for 3DS is a thing was mindblowing back then, we take portable Smash for granted now with Ultimate but Smash 3DS was great package full of content, and even had superior modes when compared to Smash Wii U, and it played like a dream.

[@ikagura]

Yep, a great first handheld smash.

[@catfrombowsersfury1654]

Now we have ultimate

[@ikagura]

@@catfrombowsersfury1654 So?

[@EEBE64]

Now I want to see a SSB4 PacMan tas, that would be the shit.

[@EEBE64]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/onu4m6tqdqZprdk Just in case you need to be convinced

[@subwaymanYT]

Announcer: Wow incredib- Ganondorf: *Grunts aggressively*

[@It-is-a-Smash-Hit]

Never thought the 3DS would make me feel so nostalgic there’s something about it that I just love about smash 4 (besides customs those were pretty cool)

[@chimaeraarts]

Mine was their render style if the characters. As much as Ultimate take of realism like in Brawl, I prefer Smash 4s you really feel like there in motion.

[@deadrat7453]

@@chimaeraarts there also isn't in an insane amount of buffer

[@edl4114]

Ah yes, back when Ganoncide didn't kill Ganon first.

[@ikagura]

Great profile pic, it makes me nostalgic.

[@ikagura]

@Oxnard Darcy Or any Zelda character from the roster (even Sheik got a TP-styled design)

[@peluquin98]

Now you can jump out of it

[@DarkSSJShinji]

0:11 If you look VERY closely, for a split second, you can see Mario T-pose! Even on 0.25 Speed, it's STILL too fast!

[@3Balanced]

Checked frame-by-frame to confirm. It's there.

[@lightbluesquid]

I saw that as well!

[@DarkSSJShinji]

@@3Balanced Glad I'm not the only one. I just happened to find it by accident by pausing the video on normal speed. I was like, *wow* ! I wonder if anyone else had seen it yet? So yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it. 🤣

[@craigkellems2597]

He's doing so with the little creature behind his back, as well! Is he protecting it?

[@DarkSSJShinji]

@@craigkellems2597 Only for *so* long. 😥 Mario knew, eventually, he would have to put it down when it grew too powerful. ....And that day had arrived. 😭

[@FATE522]

Final results Total score 1053820 Stage score 572700 Total Gold Earned 4585G

[@user-hy2ve4zm1c]

I'm impressed that TAS came on SSB for 3DS とうとう3DSでもTASさんが見られる時代に来たんだなぁって

[@MeesterTweester]

I have fond memories of beating 9.0 in Smash 3DS with Ganondorf! Also I saw the last-second taunt at the end

[@Guitarz_fan]

Beating 9.0 was the best achievement i ever got in life. Also nice job for doing it faster and better👍

[@kirbikomeiji]

I've been waiting literal YEARS for this moment, attempting to complete Classic Mode with every character was such a pain in the ass due to this game's absurdly unfair CPU. Nice work!

[@rosebarrett1267]

I forgot how much I grinded this. The constant ganon up smash brings back memories, I kind of missed the sound byte tbh. Great tas!

[@blackdot105]

I used to actually main Ganon. I miss his old Up Smash, as well as the strength of Wizard Foot.

[@protocetid]

try Project+, it's got the best Ganondorf out of any Smash game

[@PotatoSoupThe64th]

W O W, I-

[@fanboyyourguy]

V E R S U S-

[@Aeroga201]

Crazy to think this game was back in 2014 doesn’t even feel that long ago

[@simon-ricardokuhn1713]

It's so amazing to see actual 3DS TAS! You just earned a sub, comrade!

[@rushkirt7]

4:23 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU CAN SPIKE MASTER CORE

[@outofthecoral]

why wouldn't you be able to?

[@rushkirt7]

@@outofthecoral nop. he always airdodges when i try to spike

[@Kappa5938]

@@rushkirt7 He was recovering. Can't airdoge if you're recovering

[@kellamyoshikage286]

Like all characters, AI have a window where they have to commit to not dying and recovering and can no longer air dodge to safety. Heck, even if they can, they don't always dodge. As far as I'm aware they only have a chance of dodging.

[@autumnshinespark]

I totally forgot Master Hand turned into that weird shadow demon. Sure wish I could block those attacks 😅

[@greenhunter473]

0:23 yeah that's an accurate representation of the Gaur Plains experience (or Gormott if you're playing 2) to new comers of Xenoblade.

[@greenhunter473]

@@koitern8785 literally just killed him again in DE farming for the Speed Shift Art Book LMAO.

[@RiverRiceRansom]

You have just witnessed the Triforce of Power!

[@femmy2584]

Have you thought of making a TAS combo video? That would be hype

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

thanks for this. its so satisfying watching u full charge and warlock each master form. i played ganon in classic 9.0 so many times and watching that made my day

[@buprevengeance6573]

I really do wish they added this game's modes to Wii U/Ultimate

[@Cqjoker73]

The CPUs were sauced so good that Gordon Ramsay would approve.

[@furrylover5723]

2:43 to 2:45 was so badass best clip I ever seen

[@mr.ledger]

Big fan of the 3DS tases you've made so far! Although I expected more showing off of perfect pivots + foxtrots (as limited as they are) for style points/during dead time lol

[@Blade_the_Cat]

The reason why he doesn't have any custom moves is because he skipped picking them up during the Smash Run TAS

[@KAIsibs]

2:44 THAT MII DIDN’T NEED THAT!!!

[@brianjude6789]

3:01 Master Hand & Crazy Hand!

[@ovengoats]

it feels like there’s just too much to handle and plan out in a tas like this-how do you do it??

[@freezeburn9875]

I’d guess there’s save states, idk tho

[@DJGioGio]

"WOW IN-"

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Finally the lord of Darkness has his own video.

[@lomex6565]

You could do a TAS of Tomodachi Life.

[@anonymoose477]

WOW! In- more like WOW! End

[@el_alex1807]

Man this really takes me back

[@CursedMoistMan690]

I miss playing marth online and telling people to "keep there eyes open" when i kill them or they SD

[@user-wv3of7ol5w]

0:26 why Sakurai deleted this

[@elicorder5330]

I'm gonna subscribe for these i love these

[@Supernir]

How Ironic that Shulk is first when his remake just came out. I miss sm4sh 3ds, *dearly* ;^)

[@francisnguyen6349]

Go, Ganondorf!

[@sms_mario]

I love how the comments say how nostalgic they are. Yes, it brings back memories

[@Gamer-zg2wb]

Remember when Ganondorf had a fun Up-Smash?

[@kaienjin5468]

Good times.

[@BP-bq9uz]

I genuinely forgot that master fortress was a Wii U exclusive and was really confused for a bit ngl

[@len6444]

damn ganon sniped that warlock punch

[@nfslover9215]

You just wrecked the whole competition. 😁😁😁

[@Amar-078]

this is pure nostalgia

[@Khyon521]

I always forget how cool classic mode was in smash 4, with the final core and everything

[@vexzel5773]

i never noticed that the 3ds version lacked a maze at the end

[@tufftuffson]

2:43 dude, you are crazy

[@SMEARGLEX75]

We will achieve victory.

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

Just seeing this game with tolerable loading times is satisfying in itself

[@ironmanryan6388]

This is a Best Speedrun

[@zachstarattack7320]

Seeing the 3DS again is pretty awesome and nostalgic. Rock solid framerate too. If only you could play melee on the 3ds lol

[@reddodeado301]

They brought up the framerate in the reveal. Despite being Smash on a 3DS, it still had a solid 60 frames.

[@TZMHBT]

If GameCube emulation is possible or if someone implemented Melee's physics into Smash 4 3DS we could play Melee, but seeing how Smash 4 broke circle pads like it was nothing, Melee would do that a thousand times worse.

[@nesswednesday2976]

Seeing Master Core getting spiked is super satisfying.

[@Geshtro]

I get this is a TAS. But I still argue you show this to people who say “Ganondorf sucks.” This proves my argument that ANYONE can be not just good, but a monster, it just matters who the player is.

[@Miguel92398]

Have you tried doing Smash 3DS Turbo TAS? That would be interesting to see that happening. If you have questions about adding mods on emulator, let me know.

[@metareaper8008]

It's weird for me to see ganondorf without his sword after all this time

[@BMN_Prime]

Can't wait for the Bayonetta one!

[@ClouderSavage]

1:18 KH:BBS final fight in a nutshell

[@RC3197]

Is it possible to train an amiibo with TAS? How would it turn out? Would it have PTSD from getting destroyed so much?

[@alabamii]

ah yes, the slightly less bad smash 4 classic mode

[@beta511ee4]

What’s so bad about Ultimate’s

[@maikybravo6108]

Doryah!!!

[@jaredmorales5130]

To this day Ganon has my highest classic mode score in Smash 3DS. All hail the king.

[@eden_essence]

Man, I miss Ganoncide.

[@dkbroman]

Man 3DS was SOOOO FUN

[@mrblt1299]

ahh back when ganoncide didnt kill you first

[@dreeg1896]

I was about to say the whole idea was fighting heroes then I remembered the theming was introduced in Ultimate and was like oh.

[@palkia9063]

Strange how fast this gameplay seemed when the game came out, now it just seems like ultimate in slow mo, and this used to feel close to melee back then.

[@Stargenese]

Ganondorf showed no mercy. Let's be honest.

[@gamesandluigifan7152]

I know this is a super weird request but can you spike the master core next time? Idk, it kinda looks cool

[@tragic3820]

I miss this.....they should’ve kept this ganon

[@wah00__87]

nice

[@clippygoat]

0:59 Robin: Hey Einstein, I’m on your side!

[@John-jl4dl]

Yeah, why did they make a boss fight with 50 billion phases for a mode where you can only have 2 stock by design, again?

[@reddodeado301]

You know you can use customs, right?

[@John-jl4dl]

@@reddodeado301 I don't want to invite the custom characters into my life.

[@xBinari]

I just noticed that this video was an hour ago

[@kasalo1]

I miss dis ganon :(

[@deadlyjello7792]

Man I miss Smash 4 Ganon

[@ikagura]

I wish they kept one skin with his TP one...

[@justsomeplant3305]

It feels so weird now seeing ganondorf having realistic hitboxes

[@ultragogeta1421]

Perfect for an « Thought this was hard 💀 » ahh meme

[@realkiller2160]

0:45 In Ultimate, Samus prob would've died by the Up-smash

[@the_bookworm8281]

His up smash in Ultimate isn't actually stronger. It is about the same power.

[@user-ue1eb7ge6t]

懐かしいものを…

[@sjk_ien]

3:02 Ganondorf｢HAHAHAHAHAHAHA｣

[@ocass66]

huh. looks like 3ds classic mode was a source of inspiration for world of light

[@befriendedyourmomdoc2911]

This ain't a TAS, this is just a flex.

[@JPElOtaku06]

TAS Super Smash Bros For Wii U Classic Mode With Mario ¿Please?

[@squadmassiveentertainment1004]

Some one is finally TASing ssb4

[@reddodeado301]

TOOT TOOT C STICK WARRIOR TOOT TOOT C STICK WARRIOR

[@BustNutster]

Is switch emulation possible yet? If so I would totally dig some smash ultimate tas speedruns

[@DyllonStejGaming]

While Switch emulation is possible, it's very much in its infancy in comparison to consoles like the Wii or 3DS. TAS Tools aren't even a glint in the current Switch emulators' eyes right now.

[@BustNutster]

@@DyllonStejGaming that's disappointing I hope switch emulation gets good enough so there could be tas tools

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

It'll definitely happen someday but 3DS TAS is fairly new and that system is a handheld from 2011

[@undeniablySomeGuy]

Classic mode used to be way cooler. I forgot how cool the master core fight was

[@marvknight1369]

2:43 That was illegal