TASCAM Portacapture X8 32-bit float HDR Audio Recorder

[@curtisjudd]

This video is normalized to -23 LUFS so that I didn't have to do any post processing and so you can hear how it sounds directly out of the recorder.

[@OMTEKNO]

Is it possible to apply internal effects such as compressors and preset effects to the audio that has been recorded on this recorder?

[@curtisjudd]

@@OMTEKNO While it is recording, yes.

[@DanielSRosehill]

I think you've mentioned in a few videos that - 23 LUFS is broadcast standard but - 16 LUFS is often preferred for online distribution. Any chance you could expand upon this in a future video?

[@curtisjudd]

@@DanielSRosehill Yes, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIDdi357jK9orc0

[@philosophiaentis5612]

Which one has better preamps, the Tascam DR100 MKIII or the Portacapture X8?

[@geraldundone]

Great coverage, Curtis! Thanks.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Gerald!

[@ernie548]

I've had the DR100 MK3 for a couple years now and have not been disappointed. It has worked well even under fairly rough conditions, including heavy costal moisture in the air.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for sharing, Ernie!

[@steverolfeca]

For sound designers, the X8's ultrasonic noise spikes in 192K mode are definitely significant! Take a recording, drop it a few octaves, and that noise will become a high-pitched audible tone. Whether you could work around that without spoiling the sample would depend on the application.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@indee7142]

This problem has not been fixed in the new firmwares ?

[@ErikPelyukhno]

I had a traumatic experience where I was filming an EDM festival for my first time, using the X8 to capture audio off the DJ mixer. Because I enabled pre-record for my first time, when I hit record and saw the border of the screen illuminate red and heard the inputs through my headphones I assumed it was good to go. When I went to listen back to the recording after filming all night long (New Years in Miami is wild), there was no audio captured. People need to know, this recorder must have the record button pressed twice to actually record.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@ww1www]

I have a bunch of recorders, but the X8 is probably the one I would keep if ai had to part all but one. It is a very good concept and gives you the most versaitility. A variety of inputs, a lot of ways you can attach mics to the recorder body. You also get a lot of functionality: it is a mixing board, a DSP processor, a mobile podcast studio. It can record 24 and 32 bit simultaneously. It has control apps for both iOS and Android. As audio interface it works both 24 or 32 bit now. Very- very close to perfect for my needs. And I am happy with the audio quality as well. Having said that I also have an F3 and an F8n Pro, and a few more. The X8 stacks up nicely. There are a few things in the software that could be improved on, but recording quality is on par. The only thing I find misleading is the headphone amplifier which is quity noisy. I thought it was preamp noise, but no, the recording is clean, just there is too much hiss in the headphones.

[@curtisjudd]

Glad it works well for you!

[@gummoman]

im really waiting for this video. I have heard a lot of problems of the Portacapture X8 and I was waiting for your review to make a good decision.

[@curtisjudd]

I hope it was helpful.

[@DavidConnors]

Very detailed review - nice work Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks David.

[@vivaforever1606]

20:24 You are amazing. That question was literally in my head and I was about to write that question in the comments. Great efforts, well appreciated.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@franklong6269]

Just a quick comment on the internal amplifiers for 32 bit recording. I am a singer/song writer and have written dozens of original songs. My songs have a large vocal range and can go up to "D" above middle "C," which is an operatic level. Right now I am recording my songs for copywriting. Using the suppled mics in 24 bit 48.1 Khtz mode, I just set up the record levels on the recorder to what I think will work. I have found that even if the levels go into the "red" , where it should clip, it doesn't clip. In fact, I have had a hard time getting the X8 to clip at all under normal use. Out of curiosity, I raised the gain too high and tried to get it to clip. It did clip in this situation. I also set the gain at normal levels and shouted into the mics up close and it just clipped a little in this case, which is pretty impressive. So I am saying, for singer songwriters, this recorder is exceptionally flexible and easy to use. I also purchased the Zoom H8 and it was NOT easy to use. In fact, the Zoom H8 was so buggy, that I returned it. The Zoom H8 was clumsy to use, hard to follow the Zoom work flow logic, and the record function would not turn on at times when I pushed the record button twice (which was VERY irritating). There were a lot of things I really didn't like about the H8 recorder. Probably if a person is recording 192 Khtz, 32 bit recordings a lot, they should be purchasing a higher end audio recorder anyway. If they use Tascam X8 for field recordings, I don't think they will be disappointed. I have not been able to HEAR any discernable noise added by the unit. I get that they are concerned about inaudible noise that is added, but I am not sure why. If humans can't hear it, then what is the point? I guess if you boost the recording in post production or something like that (I am not an audio expert by any means) then it might be an issue. If I was recording in 32 bit, 192 Khtz levels, my first concern would be the quality of the mics I was using, not the indiscernible noise below human hearing from the X8 unit. Though, again, I am not an expert, based on what experts have said, it appears that to record at these high levels you need some very expensive mics with high dynamic ranges. I agree with you that the Tascam X8 audio record quality is better than the Zoom H8. Both are very good, but the Tascam has better dynamic range and the included mics have better sensitivity. I had trouble getting the Zoom H8 included mics to pic up my guitar and vocals at the same time and I had to place the unit very close to me, which was irritating. The Tascam X8 allows me to set the unit back three or four feet and get great recordings.

[@curtisjudd]

Glad the x8 is working well for you, Frank! 🎙

[@vaidehiarts]

Thank you for the review.. Now waiting for Zoom H6-II with 32 bit float, USB-C connection and faster bootup. For now, the Zoom H5 continues to be budget convenience king (along with F4 for more 'pro' work)

[@curtisjudd]

You're welcome. Happy recording!

[@tfransson]

Agree, I got the XLR-module for my H5. I can use it for lavs that do not require phantom power. With backup recording it will protect from clipping in most situations. The XLR inputs I use for boom mics. In a dialogue or interview setup it will give you three recordings of the same source, plenty to work with. The signal from the boom mic needs to be pretty hot, like Rode NTG5. Using the optional remote, removes handling noises. Adjusting gain is out with the remote but you can start, stop the recording and playback. In addition, the H5 takes full size SD cards. microSDs are more fragile. Mini USBs are sturdier than micro, also a feature of H5. Why Zoom chose microUSB for H8 is beyond reason.

[@pianopotato]

I like how you included a bit of musical use for this recorder Curtis. I won't be a buyer for this new Tascam recorder but it's a good trend to see 32 bit float recording now available in these consumer type recorders with onboard mic capsules. I use and love the Zoom F6 these days and have the H6 in my bag as backup when I'm recording my concerts. Thanks for the great video again!

[@curtisjudd]

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[@MarkHarmer]

Good choice! I have the same two recorders (and the F8n but will soon upgrade to F8n pro)

[@DanielSRosehill]

Was that Irish music at the start Curtis? Great video as always!

[@curtisjudd]

Yes! Out on the Ocean.

[@edclevel402]

The Zoom XYH-5 XY stero mic capsule module has a _bit_ of shock isolation between the mic capsules and the frame. Each mic capsule is suspended by a small rubber gasket that does a decent job of at least partially reducing handling noise.

[@franklong6269]

Are you referring to the Zoom H8?

[@curtisjudd]

Good to know, thanks for sharing!

[@JohnnySprings]

Curtis , you are our audio King , thank you so much for explaining everything so thoroughly to us mere mortals!! I can’t make a single audio related purchase without checking out your opinions first! Let me ask you one thing my friend… I do a lot of video work with doctors, dentists and etc for social media… been using lavalier mics but wanted to step up my game , so I picked up a mkh 416 this week… would you say that this tascam would be a good combination with it?? I would use mostly for spoken word… Thank you so much my friend

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, that should work nicely.

[@rich9785]

Thanks Curtis. Appreciate the vid. 👍💯

[@curtisjudd]

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[@ronflores7]

Would love to see a comparison against the zoom fx3 when avail.

[@curtisjudd]

I'll definitely review the F3 once I receive my copy. We'll talk about how it compares to various other 32-bit float capable recorders.

[@PAZPERDEE]

Great video, clear and concise, thanks and just subscribed 👍

[@curtisjudd]

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[@ChestiiPrinAmerica]

That is the type of video when you have 0 info about a product, after you watching it, you do informed decision. Thank you. I have 2 questions tho. Will describe my scenario then at the end will ask. I have to record a podcast with 4 people. Will be using one set of rode wireless go 2 and one DJI wireless mic. Since there will be multiple tracks, when I will sync them, I am sure that will get that "phasing", "echoing" effect a lot. Have to turn off all fhe tracks in post except the one speaking in order to ger crispy audio. I will be using only 2 inputs on recorder, every input will have a track from 2 mics. Question 1: can the recorder make a track baking all together both tracks. Question 2: is the recorder going to mix it down without that "echoing, phasing, bleeding sound" from other mics? I am trying to save time in post production. So I don't have to cut individualy tracks. Thank you a lot. Have a productive week.

[@curtisjudd]

1) You'll need an input for each mic if you want to treat each mic independently in post. In other words, you'll need 3.5mm to dual XLR adapter for each wireless receiver. 2) No, if they're out of phase, the recorder won't fix that for you. If there is a phase invert (I can't remember whether this has that feature per input), then you might be able to reduce the effect a touch. The biggest thing you can do is space people away from each other to reduce that effect.

[@explrr22]

I'm now seeing B&H selling device for $400, or $450 with the Bluetooth and storage card. Let's hope that holds. I needed a step up and reluctantly bought one for $100 more months ago, but with the current price and feature set, it's now looking like a more obvious recommendation for a top-end handheld recorder. I suspect they're hoping to grab a bunch of that market from Zoom. So long as Zoom lacks a similar handheld, Tascam should be incentivised to keep improving the Portacapture. There are some things in hardware and UI design that leave opportunities for Zoom. Still, I suspect 32bit float recording and a flexible touchscreen interface are winning design elements for the next generation of multipurpose handhelds.

[@curtisjudd]

That’s a substantial price drop! I hope that is sustainable for them.

[@ConsumerFanatics]

The X8 is super useful for me because of the class-compliant USB audio interface functionality. My work IT does not allow non-approved software to be installed, including drivers. The X8 works great as an audio interface; I'm currently using the Earthworks Ethos as my work mic. When I tried the Rode A1, for whatever reason, the audio quality was compromised. With the X8, it is as it should be. I'm thinking a lot has to do with my crappy work-provided laptop, but also whatever differences there are in class-compliant standards between the two devices I tried. It's important to note that you need to match the sample rate between your computer and X8, so 48kHz across both devices. Also important to note that the in-built processing (gate, compressor/limiter, EQ, etc.) cannot be used when the sample rate is set at 192kHz on the X8; you'll get an error message on the X8 when trying to connect it as an audio interface.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for sharing! Yes, I like that you do not have to install a driver if you just need a stereo feed to your computer.

[@DigIntoGaming]

Hey Curtis, have you used the tascam x8 as a windows 10 deskop audio interface? So far I am liking all the options and use cases the tascam x8 can do and compared to other recorders it seems to win out. But I need to be able to record 32bit float on my pc and monitor myself live via the tascam x8. I'd also like to be able to turn down the mic monitoring and desktop audio coming through the tascam x8 independently but I don't think that's a feature unfortunately. I will be using a rode nt1 as my microphone so hopefully the pre amps on the tascam x8 are good enough for that mic.

[@curtisjudd]

No, I’ve got a Mac. But I will say that the preamps are good enough for a RODE NT1.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

My choice: Sound Device MixPre-3 II. 😀

[@curtisjudd]

Mine too. Sadly, anybody who wants to buy one in early 2022 is out of luck as they're not available.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

@@curtisjudd, yes, indeed.

[@patentjohntran1283]

had it and prefer the x8 over it tbh

[@spritual_enlightenment]

@@patentjohntran1283 What did you like about X8?

[@patentjohntran1283]

@@spritual_enlightenment compared to the mixpre series? 1). Love the large touch screen, 2). Easy, clean and intuituve to navigate UI. I barely needed the manual to understand how to use it right off the bat. Due to small screen, the mixpre settings and UI is buried in multiple layers of screens and button pressing to access, 3). Really enjoy the built in effects (i.e compressor, reverb etc...). Especially impromptu music recordings, just record on the X8 music preset with compressor and little reverb with built-in mic, and you can get some amazing recordings 4). Mixpre preamps are better but to get 32bit and this many channels, ur looking at $1k for the comparable mixpre-6ii. X8 may be less 'pro' but it is more versatile and $500 cheaper for a comparable sound. 5). Looks are subjective, but i just think the X8 is a great looking device versus the mixpre and zoom offerings 6). This is a flagship portable sound recorder product for Tascam so I believe they will fix some of the early issues with future updates 7). Curtis didn't cover it. but the Bluetooth functionality is pretty darn good (I'm on Android). It's so convenient and opens up alot of different new use cases. Cons (what i don't like about the X8 after a month of use): 1). Need a way to completely turn off the display during recording if u want, 2). The way channel 1 & 2 is mapped is weird so it makes using the X8 as dedicated audio device for ur computer unusable. This should be an easy software update fix i think tho 3). no time code 4). due to form factor, it's not able to be used in a traditional sound bag like the mixpre series. This is not really a con for me but I know most pros in the field, this would be a big deal breaker for them 5). Small complaint, but it should have come with a windscreen 6). Wish it had a lithium rechargeable internal battery but to keep it at $500, they had to cut somewhere I guess

[@enriquemartin8655]

Thank you for your presentation.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@enriquemartin8655]

@@curtisjudd I was finally able to figure out how to record on the X8 from your presentation. Now am going to try to get recording connected to camera. Thank you

[@MisterMayhem17]

Im drooling right now

[@RajeshK231973]

Thanks dear curtis 💯

[@curtisjudd]

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[@1ytcommenter]

Nice Video! Does Tascam plan to add more of the apps on the recorder? Or are the preinstalled the final ones? Any plans to try the AK-BT1 bluetooth remote control dongle too?

[@curtisjudd]

I don't know what Tascam plans to add. I am only borrowing this unit so I have not plans to add the bluetooth module.

[@EmoEmu]

Lots of smart ideas in the tech here. It looks like a modern product that ought to warrant a reply from Zoom. Zoom H6 mk2?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, will be interesting to see if Zoom brings wide dynamic range recording to their H series recorders. My sense is that they’ll need to develop a better preamp to make it worthwhile.

[@drmajedmalak]

Hi Curtis...thanks for your unbiased videos. You channel is real gold. If I may ask you. Does the 32bit float allow more agreesive post processing? I am wondering if I could think about it like recording 12 bit raw video which handle way more editing that other compressed format?? Thanks

[@curtisjudd]

Potentially, yes. You end up with potentially more dynamic range.

[@drmajedmalak]

@@curtisjudd thanks 😊

[@hectorarroyoburgos848]

Curtis congrats in another piece of review! One question I’m between F6 and X8, I’ve noticed you told somebody in the comments that you prefer F6. Anything in particular for this advice? The preamps? Build quality? Form factor? Sound? I’m very interested in the float 32 recording.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, build quality and preamp quality.

[@hectorarroyoburgos848]

@@curtisjudd excellent, got it. Stay with the F6 for buying. Thanks again Curtis!😀🙌

[@micksbiggestfan4006]

The 1/8 plugs on the built in mics appear to have 3 conductors as if stereo. I wonder why? Great review.

[@curtisjudd]

Maybe they’re planning some additional microphone capsules?

[@kuyutemelkuyutemel9699]

Hello Curtis brother, I want to bring together all the music in the cassette player, can we save it to my stone recorder?

[@curtisjudd]

🪨

[@philosophiaentis5612]

Which one has better preamps, the Tascam DR100 MKIII or the Portacapture X8?

[@LearnLightAndSoundSessions]

I haven't worked with the DR-100mkIII so I'm not sure.

[@echochillASMR]

Hello, Great Video. I am having trouble connecting my Tascam Portacapture x8 to Gopro Hero12. How do you connect them?

[@curtisjudd]

I would sync the audio to the GoPro video clips in post. But you should be able to use a 3.5mm stereo mini jack cable assuming the Hero has a 3.5mm mic input?

[@echochillASMR]

Thanks for the reply. I have tried but the sound quality is really bad and crackly with 3.5 jack. What would be your suggested software to sync them?

[@curtisjudd]

@@echochillASMR I use DaVinci Resolve and Final Cut Pro.

[@KipJackson]

Hey man could you send me the link for the stand you use for the tascam x8 by any chance? have a great say

[@curtisjudd]

You bet - It is in the description of this video: Sound Devices Pix-base stand

[@EPHONIC]

Great review. I’ve heard Adobe Audition has limitations with 32-but float and data above 0db. Do you know what that is and whether issues will occur using this Tascam?

[@curtisjudd]

In my testing, Audition does not appear to have any issues with 32-bit float, even when the audio exceeds 0 dBFS.

[@jschalit21]

@curtisjudd, my X8 has suddenly reverted to 24-bit only and I can't change the bit depth back to 32-bit. Any recommendations?

[@curtisjudd]

I’d contact Tascam support. My guess is you have another setting which prevents 32-bit float.

[@jschalit21]

@@curtisjudd, thanks! I fixed it. You can't record in 32-bit with the dual setting on.

[@dylanj8676]

I wish Tascam would make an improved DR701D. That's what I want from a recorder. Everything the 701D has, but with 6-8 inputs, and the ability to run off a camera battery, and maaaybe 32-bit float though I don't see that as necessary. Instead of trying to compete with Zoom in the handy recorder space, Tascam should stick to making recorders for film and video because that's what they're good at.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@FinalGrade]

Hey Curtis thank you for the video! Question about the 32bit float audio on this device. When you say it lacks range do you mean only when using the built in mics? Like if I used the XLR ports with other mics would it function more similar to something like an f3 or f6?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, that was referring to the built-in mics

[@jayforcinema]

Thanks Curtis! Would you recommend this portacapture over the Zoom F4 for field recording work? Does the 32 bit float offer any substantial upgrades in that department?

[@curtisjudd]

I'd personally opt for the F4.

[@jayforcinema]

@@curtisjudd Thank you for helping with this key advice :)

[@AndileJGumbo]

Hey Curtis, if I were to choose between this and the Zoom F4 as my next recorder for filmmaking, which would you recommend more?

[@curtisjudd]

I, personally, would opt for the ZOOM F4, but it depends on what you plan to record.

[@thewirv]

You laughing about recent Zoom recorders with Micro-USB ports is really funny. I recently bought the Zoom H5 and that has a Mini-USB port. Like WTF, that really reminded me of the old PS3 days, holy shit. Edit: Otherwise, it's a great recorder though, haha.

[@curtisjudd]

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[@bluedun9816]

OFF TOPIC: Will you be reviewing the Zoom F3 soon? I am curious as I am considering purchasing one of these units to add to my handheld camera rig paired with a Sennheiser 416 for documentary work. I shoot with a Sony A7s III, which has no phantom power or XLR input, the F3 may be a solution I am looking for. Thanks.

[@curtisjudd]

As soon as my pre-ordered F3 arrives from B&H. I ordered early, on the US launch day, so I should be near the front of that line.

[@stephanes.]

I’ll wait for the F3

[@curtisjudd]

Ok.

[@Devinop]

Hello, how would you compare this recorder to the Zoom F3 and F6? Especially in the matter of the device's own noise. Where is it less?

[@curtisjudd]

I found the F3 and F6 to be slightly cleaner and much more battery efficient.

[@beatsbywoods8388]

I love the summary “this unit is basically for Dumbasses who like shiny things, or giant flightless birds"

[@curtisjudd]

Ha! I think I was a bit more diplomatic than that. There are a surprising number of people who love their Portacapture X8s.

[@beatsbywoods8388]

@@curtisjudd You were your videos are very helpful, I was just making a joke, but also making a statement, I waited for months to buy mine and was turned off right away, I picked up the Zoom H8 instead, I like the mic options it has, the Tuscan Mics felt like they should cost 10 dollars, Its all about that big touchscreen but you cant use your hands on the device while in operation, I wish they would implement a suspension mount for the mic like a studio mic should be that would help with the handling of the unit.

[@curtisjudd]

@@beatsbywoods8388 I agree. 👍

[@liamfoxobrien]

Hey Curtis, thank you so much for this detailed review. I found this really helpful but I have one question that I’d love to ask if you don’t mind.. If your max budget is $1100 which 32bit float recorder would you recommend for someone who needs at least 4 XLR inputs (with phantom power) to record a Sennheiser Ambeo mic (and possibly other models of Ambisonic microphones).. ? Is the Zoom F6 the best bet ? or is it worth just going for the F8n Pro (I already have an F8n but I wish it had 32 but float capabilities.. it’s a tricky question but my gut says the F6 is the best option but if I’m spending the money should I just go a little deeper into the pockets for something from Sound Devices ?

[@curtisjudd]

I’d opt for the F8n Pro. I find the F6 a little frustrating to operate in terms of ergonomics, but that’s very subjective.

[@liamfoxobrien]

@@curtisjudd thanks for the reply man. I genuinely appreciate the advice. I think you’re right btw. While I can’t comment on the ergonomics of the F6, I have been a user of the old F8n for 3+ years and I find it very convenient and ergonomically pleasing. I imagine the pro is more or less identical aside from its 32bit capabilities ..? My only issue is that I was hoping for something a little smaller/lighter like the F6 but perhaps it’s not worth compromising quality and convenience for a few less ounces of hardware.. it’s also a bummer that the F6 doesn’t have combo inputs (XLR only). Is there any notable difference in the quality of the preamps with the F6 versus the F8n Pro ?

[@curtisjudd]

@@liamfoxobrien Yes, the Pro is basically the same except for the 32-bit float capability, though it does include a few other nuanced changes. We cover those here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bn7JdIxsmZiooM0 The preamps sound the same to me.

[@wapsychotherapy]

Great videos, thank you. I would have also a question. I want to start a podcast and everybody is recommending zoom h6 (mobility is important) do you have any thoughts or alternatives. Thank you in advance!!!

[@curtisjudd]

I think it depends on which microphones you plan to use. The ZOOM H6 has longer battery life and physical knobs for adjusting input levels which is nice. But you'd miss the 32-bit float capability of the X8 which is good if you happen to set the input gain incorrectly.

[@wapsychotherapy]

@@curtisjudd thank you for your answer. I have now two Samsun q2u, but intent to buy maybe earthworks icon pro or maybe a dynamic microphone which don’t emphasize my voice in any direction (i think that I have a rather darker voice). I decided to go with the zoom h6 also for the price. Do you have any recommendations for a good mic? Would earthworks icon pro be a good fit?

[@curtisjudd]

@@wapsychotherapy The trick with the H6 is that its preamplifiers struggle to supply enough clean gain for dynamic microphones. You may need to add a fethead of cloudlifter to get enough gain for dynamic mics and then that will need phantom power so your recorder will not run as long on a set of batteries. The Icon Pro or any other condenser microphone should be fine with the H6.

[@mapioskoloni9784]

Hi Curtis. I'm looking for a recorder for a specific use: as a wedding videographer, my main function for the recorder would be to give it to the DJ at the reception, to plug it in his board so I can get a direct feed from his board, and not have to worry about levels throughout the night. With the X8 currently at $399 and the x6 at $299 is there anything more cost-efficient than those two for this purpose? I also noticed that the new DR-10L Pro has 32-bit float capture and it connects to the X8 via bluetooth, even though I don't know how practical that would be and what the range of the bluetooth connection would be.

[@curtisjudd]

Consider the ZOOM F3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inmoc4KXZbqIgNE

[@mapioskoloni9784]

@@curtisjudd What's the advantage over the x6/x8? Pricewise, at $349 the F3 sits between them ($299/$399) but they have a much more user-friendly screen and the X8 has 4 XLR inputs for 50 bucks more.

[@curtisjudd]

@@mapioskoloni9784 build quality. Simplicity, and much better battery life.

[@mapioskoloni9784]

@@curtisjudd Battery life should not be a problem with a power back I'm guessing. But would you say that the F3 has an advantage in performance, in the noise floor or the range of the 32-bit float recordings? I don't know if I'm defining this correctly, but basically if I leave it unattended with the DJ would one over the other give me a significantly better recording?

[@curtisjudd]

@@mapioskoloni9784 probably not a significant difference.

[@markus8282]

Instead of the gigantic screen I rather would prefer a couple of useful mechanical knobs, which would make quick handling in the field more easy. But that´s just me, I know that everybody want´s a mobile-phone-styled device these days...

[@curtisjudd]

I agree, as long as there are meters with 8 or more segments. The older LED meters on the Sound Devices 7xx series recorders were great.

[@The_Daliban]

Quick: The Tascam or Zoom F6? Thank you!🙏🏻

[@curtisjudd]

I already answered that in the video and even left a chapter marker for you to get there quickly. Quick answer: For me, Tascam.

[@The_Daliban]

@@curtisjudd oh no:( I‘m sorry. Was too excited. Thank you!

[@curtisjudd]

@@The_Daliban No worries. 😀 Be assured that I like to answer your questions.

[@markrussell.]

Can the screen be turned off while your recording?

[@curtisjudd]

You can set it to turn off the backlight and lock the controls.

[@CreativeRamy]

Freetousesounds channel had some issues with the X8 and another KZbinr who ran some tests, I thought you would touch on it too, maybe check those videos out see if your X8 has same issue

[@curtisjudd]

I watched the Free to use sounds video. Which issues are you referring to?

[@CreativeRamy]

There's a review of the unit by a well known field recordist named George Vlad on his mindful audio blog, my link for you to check out keeps getting deleted, which I'm finding interesting. I like your review and always watch your reviews they're very informative and detailed. But this time I don't think you were aware of known issues of the unit maybe with the way you conducted the review, so the issue didn't show up for you

[@curtisjudd]

@@CreativeRamy Yes, KZbin will delete links. Would you mind listing the issues, please?

[@CreativeRamy]

@@curtisjudd the freetousesounds video i would like to kindly direct you to is titled: Tascam X8 problem, first impressions and Q&A.

[@CreativeRamy]

@@curtisjudd when importing the recordings into izoptope RX lines appear in the 20 & 50 kHz range. These lines which is a hum at those ranges would be audible for anyone doing sound design recording in 192 and pitching down, I'd suggest to watch the video freetousesounds did as he shows you these issues arising in Izotope from X8 recordings. When he posted about it in his IG stories many other sound designers and engineers discovered the same issue

[@crowlsyong]

Curtis I appreciate this. Here are some things I like (in no particular order) 1.) The notes at the beginning. Specifically the timing of them, like you understand that I can pause it if I need to which is great. 2.) Colors, I watch these at night sometimes and you keep the colors....gentle on my eyes 3.) You're cadence and voice. It's accurate, paced properly, clear, concise, relevant, and human. 4.) The info. You give us exactly what we need to know. 5.) Kindness. I see you pop up on other channels to comment sometimes and it's always kind, supportive, and makes me happy. 6.) Honesty honesty honesty. You tell it like it is. 7.) Have a great day man. Thanks for doing what you do. We random humans are ACTUAL humans that ACTUALLY appreciate you! Haha be well.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Geodesic Interpolation! PS - Do you so some sort of cartography or Geosciences work? Curious based on the name...

[@thomasoppong8019]

Man! Did you have to say it all? You stole all of my thoughts. I've been learning from Curtis since 2018. Much love Sir, you've helped me greatly.

[@impatrickt]

part of me thinks it's interesting that it has basically an android phone built in... but a bigger part of me wishes these things were just hard knobs and switches. I cant stand dealing with touch screen in the field.

[@curtisjudd]

Dear Patrick, I think we could all benefit from more analogue controls. And we could all benefit from some of the food you photograph as well. I hope some day to share a meal with you. 🙏

[@impatrickt]

@@curtisjudd yes! 🍝

[@aclarkedesign]

On 32 bit Float…I don’t know about anyone else, but I never thought I’d see the day when you could record something with clipping or really low and still be able to adjust to make it sound good. Blows my mind.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@KyleSVT]

Always love a new Curtis Judd video! Thanks for making these videos, really helps to find what gear to get and just fun getting knowledge on things

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Kyle.

[@rosshoyt2030]

Easily the best review I've seen for this product (and similar). Thanks so much!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@ChaseTheSummit]

Does the Portacapture have Mix Minus for USB or phone inputs?

[@curtisjudd]

No, not that I saw in the menus. But for USB, most of the call or podcast services automatically take care of that these days.

[@yuzujuice]

It’s a tad bit disappointing that the X8 has so many issues from what I’ve seen, especially for $500. Luckily for me, I found a Mixpre 3 II for $500 and returned this unit. Hoping that Tascam learns from their mistakes.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, I do hope so.

[@franklong6269]

The review did not list a lot of issues, neither have other professional reviews. I am not sure what you are referring to. Also, Sound Devices recorders are one of the best, no doubt, but they cost a lot more than this device and they are nowhere near as easy to use.

[@lukastemberger]

Same here. I didn't see any issues in this review. What issues are there?

[@curtisjudd]

@@lukastemberger I did list some "cons" but whether those are issues depend on the situation in which the recorder is used.

[@lukastemberger]

@@curtisjudd Ah ok, so there are no actual problems with the device, everything is working as intended... It just depends on the scenario if it's the right tool to use? Because the comment sounded like there are actual mistakes and issues...

[@DJBooks1]

I brought it two weeks ago. I was waiting for this review. I like the interface and ease of use. It's a great piece of kit.

[@curtisjudd]

👍 Glad it works well for you!

[@AlternativeKava]

im having trouble using this as an interface for Cubase. I see all the channels in the input selection but when I hit record, there's no signal. may you please explain?

[@curtisjudd]

@@AlternativeKava Probably best to contact Tascam support for help. Best wishes!

[@patentjohntran1283]

Just got the X8 and really enjoying it thus far. Coming from a mixpre 6-ii, the large touchscreen and easy to navigate UI is a godsend. As Curtis points out, the flexibility/versatility is probably what is the best thing about the X8.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@maxhammer4067]

Does it sound as good as mixpre though there preamps are amazing

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Hope wife is being paid as a session musician in this video! ☝🏼😉

[@curtisjudd]

She is. 😀🎻

[@franklong6269]

I purchased this recorder to replace the Zoom H8 because of the following reasons: 1. The Zoom H8 has a micro-USB connector which is irritating. The X8 has a USB-C connector which is MUCH more convenient. 2. The Tascam X8 has 32 bit float recording. 3. The X8's touchscreen is far superior to the H8's touchscreen - it's not even close. 4. The X8 is far more intuitive to use. 5. Recording music on the X8 with effects like reverb is easier and it is well laid out in the app. For amateurs like me, recording my original songs on the Tascam X8 is FAR easier than the Zoom H8. With the Zoom H8, often it would not start recording when I hit the record button twice, and it was hard to see on the touchscreen to monitor what was going on. On the X8, this has not been a problem. The entire record process for music using music app or recording without the app is streamlined and laid out far better with the Tascam X8. For people new to audio recording, this is extremely helpful. 6. The recording quality of the X8 appears to be at least equal to the H8. The Tascam X8 recordings of my original songs generally sound better than those I made on the Zoom H8. I am a skilled musician and songwriter and I CAN hear the difference. I am not sure why they sound better, but they do. Without effects, the difference is not world shaking, but with effects, it is night and day. The Tascam allows amateurs to easily add effects in the music app. 7. You can control every function of the X8 from an android phone remotely via the Bluetooth dongle. On the Zoom H8, you cannot control every function and their remote dongle only works with IOS (Apple) phones or tablets. The remote function on the H8 only lets you monitor the recordings and you cannot adjust the settings remotely. Every review of the Bluetooth remote control of the X8 has said it works very well with no delay. 8. I don't have a need to record in 192 kHz. Plus to do so would require expensive microphones. One professional reviewer mentioned that not many mics have the ability to record in that high sample rate range. I will take their word for it. Having said that, the 192 kHz feature is available on the X8, but the H8 does not have this feature at all. 9. The cost is fairly equal. The X8 is about a $100.00 more. Thanks for your thorough review - it was excellent. I have two questions. Do you think there is a hearable difference between the Zoom F6 or other higher level recorder (from any manufacturer) and the Tascam X8 for music and song recording, when recorded at 44 kHz, 48 kHz and 96 kHz? If there would be a difference that is audible, what prosumer audio recorder would you recommend in the price range up to $2,000.00? Thanks, Frank Long

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for sharing, Frank. I haven't found sample rates to make a big difference unless you are doing sound design work and plan to slow the sound down for sound effects. However, the 32-bit float can make a practical difference if you happen to set your gain incorrectly. So the difference between the Zoom F6 and the X8 is largely going to be dynamic range in 32-bit float mode. If you're recording REALLY loud music and you have a high quality microphone which can handle high SPLs (e.g., >130dB SPL) then the 32-bit float on the F6 is going to be a safer bet. But if you set your gain appropriately, you can make fine recordings with the X8.

[@franklong6269]

@@curtisjudd Thanks, your advice is very helpful. I feel a little bit like I am in a dark room and I am trying to "feel" my way through to the light when it comes to sound recording. There is a big learning curve to understanding both audio and video recording.

[@gaips]

Announced today: “With the introduction of the V1.30 firmware update, the Portacapture X8 now has the capability to use 32-bit float point resolution when using the unit as a USB audio interface to a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). This facilitates wider dynamic range, higher resolution, and greater audio quality for better overall record quality. The 32-bit float technology enables audio to be dynamically controlled and edited virtually without limitations. Clipped audio segments can easily be corrected and, similarly, low level audio passages can be adjusted to a higher dB level. Paul Youngblood, Director of Product Marketing at TASCAM, commented on the new features offered by the V1.30 firmware update, “The Portacapture X8 has proven itself to be a full-featured, powerful handheld recorder both on its own or when used in tandem with a computer. As a company, we strive to listen carefully to our users, as this enables us to learn first-hand how our equipment gets used in a wide range of applications-and the V1.30 update is a perfect example of this. We’ve taken the most requested capabilities and turned those into new features that make the Portacapture X8 even more versatile and useful.”

[@curtisjudd]

Very nice, thanks for sharing 👍

[@gaips]

@@curtisjudd “The USB MIX MINUS function can now be used in the PODCAST app. This can suppress the occurrence of echoes in audio from remote participants when capturing podcasts.”

[@NaviRetlav]

I really wish that ZOOM could release the new H6n with 32bit/192khz in the same form factor as current H6

[@curtisjudd]

Well, they may have more motivation to do that now. 😀

[@gdrriley420]

feels like its in a weird spot with the F6 a little above with better pre amps, more xlr inputs ect and the F3 below if you just need 2 channels of 32bit float but I don't see what tascam could do here.

[@curtisjudd]

I'd suggest they find a way to make better preamps for this unit with wider dynamic range. That'd make it a lot more compelling.

[@kblam1]

Bought a Tascam Portacapture X8 on the strength of this clear and comprehensive review! Thanks, Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

Happy recording!

[@ianpreece6391]

great video thanks! I've just bought the X8 and have a shoot coming up where they plan to use Tentacle Sync and send me audio timecode to sync up later in post. How do I mute the timecode monitor channel so I don't have it coming through the headphones?

[@StraeterBenderStreberg]

Thanks for this review, Curtis. I wonder, is 32 bit float available if you record a podcast with 3 or 4 people? I ask, because I read somewhere, that 32 bit float is not available in the Podcast settings.

[@russjam]

I've heard the same thing. I was wondering if recording in manual mode would be the solution for instead of the default "podcast" settings. Plus I suppose Curtis would say it shouldn't be a sweat since its just talking heads that would be recorded.

[@curtisjudd]

I'm not positive as I didn't test this specific scenario. Probably best to contact TASCAM support to confirm.

[@explrr22]

Podcast recording app disappoints on this: It's 24bit 48khz recording exclusively. Much worse... If you have recording settings at 32bit float, and open up the podcast app, it bumps the device setup into 24b/48k, affecting all subsequent recording. So you need to go back into the devices record settings and reset them after opening the podcast app. Exploring the device after getting it...I was puzzled about how things kept getting reset. A thorough read of the manual told me the podcast app was exclusively 24b/48k, and examination showed it was undoing previous settings across all recording.

[@hb3393]

Nice review thanks. I'm torn between the X8 and the Zoom F6 for recording rehearsals of classical music ensembles. 32 bit float is going to be a life saver so I'm sure either will be a big upgrade on a zoom h1!

[@curtisjudd]

I’d opt for the F6.

[@stanleyalexandrowicz6074]

Hi Curtis, great review! (as always). I’m in the same situation - recording classical music (classical guitar specifically); is your preference for the Zoom F6 due to the quality of the preamps? Many Thanks.

[@AllenCavedo]

There are many reasons why yours is an excellent review but let me comment on one aspect. The lighting and product presentation is the best in the business. The colorful background, controlled depth of field combined with high res image and sharp focus make a very engaging video.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Allen.

[@RogerinFinland]

Hi Curtis! Great video as always. Do I understand correctly at 13:54 that the Zoom F3 does have better pre-amps than this Tascam? (and therefore will get more out of the 32bit float with decent microphones). This Portacapture has a lot more features, the nice screen, the included mics etc, but I think I'd do with the bare bones F3. It's also cheaper, and if it does sound better I think that would make the F3 a no-brainer for me.

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Roger, no, I haven't tested the F3 yet, still waiting for my copy to arrive. However, if they use the same preamps as the F6, then yes, they'll surely have more dynamic range than the X8. I wouldn't say that they sound better, just to be precise.

[@RogerinFinland]

@@curtisjudd fair enough, and thanks for the answer!

[@luke144]

Nice! I love it! I'm addicted to taking high quality audio samples of more than just speech. I really like this channel! Subscribed. Great video!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Luke and happy recording!

[@nilsdresemann2517]

Hey! Do you know if it's possible to record different channels to one file with multiple tracks. Whenever I record i get every track as an individual file, which makes sorting everything a pain.

[@fernandagunsanchannel]

As usual a very nice thoroughly explained video. But one question. if I'm recording multi track. or doing live streaming. can I send FX (like reverb) only to one specific channel? channel 1 mic, channel 2 guitar, channel 3 bass I only want to send it to the mic. is that possible?

[@curtisjudd]

I did not test this specifically, but I believe the answer is yes. In Manual mode, you can toggle reverb on in each channel menu. I would recommend you confirm with Tascam support to be certain.

[@HuFilms]

Hi Curtis, I'm on the market for a new field recorder. Do you think this one would be the best? My Zoom H6 packed in and I'm having trouble getting it repaired. Super vid here as always. I kinda knew the build of this would be a bit plastic.

[@curtisjudd]

It’s ok. Battery life isn’t as good as the ZOOM recorders, build isn’t amazing. I’d actually choose the ZOOM F3 or F6 for my work.

[@donnelson8524]

Thank you so much for the excellent review; I've been waiting for your take on this unit. The X8 looks really interesting for many use cases, but I'm left wishing Tascam put the R&D into different areas. Personally, I'd rather have something like a Zoom H5 (smaller, more physical controls) but with improved preamps and headphone amp rather than 32bit recording and a big screen with lots of presets. The X8 looks like it might be a super versatile and popular device after a few minor revisions to fix it's early issues, but I'm left wondering if a Centrance Mixerface (top of my budget :-) might be a better option for my uses. Or maybe Zoom will upgrade the H5 with improved preamps :-) hope springs eternal! Anyway, thank you again so much for your excellent channel and review.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Don. I think it largely depends on what you record. 32-bit float on the Tascam for spoken word recording is quite good.

[@lamenamethefirst]

My ideal recorder at this form factor would be the H6 but with locking xlr inputs, locking faders, better preamps, better headphone amp and a quieter stereo mic. That's a lot I know but competitors offer all of that. What I like about the H6 is actually it's interface. Easy to control faders on the fly. Easy to arm/solo any track in the click of a button. The essentials are right in front of you and don't require a screen and menu to navigate.

[@claytonmoore2091]

Good job as usual. Seems to me that 32 bit is best as a single operator tool when you cannot mind the camera and and lighting and worry about things like Make up and what the talent is warning and the set and constantly monitor audio levels at the same time.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, or when recording extremely dynamic sound effects.

[@hermanokelah2319]

Dear Curtis, may I ask why did you used -23 LUFS for this test? Is it because european standar or because the device? Why not -19 LUFS? Could you make deeper video about this X8, please? I bought it last month, but still configuring all features and how I could use them properly according to the situation. i really like this tascam. Thank u

[@curtisjudd]

Hi Herman. Good question. I normalized the audio to -23 LUFS because I could do that without applying a limiter or compressor or any other processing to the file to reach that loudness target. That just happens to be the same target used for TV broadcast in Europe.

[@mvoo27]

Would you say that the TASCAM DR-701D's preamps are better than the X8's? And how do you rate the DR-701D preamps compared to the Zoom F6? I compared the quality of the DR-701D preamps to the Mixpre 3 and I have to say I like the DR-701D better. They sound warmer, more natural. The Mixpre 3 has a certain digital hardness in the sound. Or not?

[@curtisjudd]

Trust your ears. 👍 I don’t have a 701D on hand to do an A/B test.

[@Whaever_1981]

Wow! What a great review as always. Thanks so very much!!! :D

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks so much!

[@vf7817]

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[@curtisjudd]

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[@itdful]

well, at the rist of making these comments seem repetitive, thank you for the wonderful video Curtis! An amazing review of a pretty unique product!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Isaac.

[@OMTEKNO]

Awesome. Now Tascam and Zoom are on the same pace 😍. I really like the design of TASCAM Portacapture X8. The UI is absolutely simple yet futuristic.

[@curtisjudd]

I do like the UI quite a bit more on the X8 vs. the ZOOM H8 and H6.

[@andygarbi8645]

Thank you for a great review! You mention other recorders you have tested with lower self noise than the X8. Can't stretch to Sound Devices prices right now but if you have any thoughts on low self noise portable field recorders that would be really appreciated. I am considering a Zoom F3 to replace my H4N.

[@curtisjudd]

The ZOOM F3 would be a fantastic choice overall and definitely with lower self-noise.

[@russtvmedia]

I can't wait until you do a review of the Zoom F3. Also the F8n Pro.

[@curtisjudd]

Both on preorder. 👍

[@robertsaca3512]

Having a really hard time attempting to use the X8 as an interface with Audition (in multi track), no matter what settings on the computer or tascam, no audio is displayed when the track is armed and record is pressed. Perhaps a video demonstrating exactly how to make it happen is useful since no one has one.

[@curtisjudd]

I'd like to do that, but I had this on loan for a month to make the review and I no longer have it.

[@gitarman666]

But that zoom h8 is so ugly especially all plugged In, cephalopod transformer toy, lol I’m a studio engineer/writer/producer we do not offer mobile services we do enjoy our prepped rooms to much And the Neumanns are afraid to leave the building Looking to capture samples to build kontakt libraries and for experimental sound design Protools, Studio One, Ableton and Logic But it is interesting to hear a filmmakers take on the Tascam H8 I have 2 on the way, thanks for the info and kudos on anything Neve we are running a 5088 since 2008👍🏼

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, love my Rupert Neve Designs Shellford Channel and also don't like to take the U87 out into nature. 😉

[@johnruuu]

what is the single file max record length? Is it limited length of time per recording session? We plan on using a 512 GB card with DC external power, but many of these units still limit the length of single recording files.

[@curtisjudd]

2 or 4GB if I remember right. Contact Tascam support to confirm (I no longer have this recorder)

[@Jyotirmayshuva]

Your review is by far the best and most elaborated with detailed explanation. Now waiting for your Zoom F8n Pro review and workflow because i am gonna have one next month :D

[@curtisjudd]

I have the F8n on pre-order so hoping to do that review soon.

[@strongereveryday2302]

I am very glad I watched this video before purchasing. The 192khz 32 bit is not really necessary for what I do and the other pitfalls were really deal killers for me, and I went with the Zoom H8 instead for its capsules and versatility.

[@curtisjudd]

Happy recording!

[@dag221]

I've been waiting/hoping you would do a review of this as there are not that many quality reviews out there for this recorder. I've been seriously considering getting this unit since it was announced but there seemed to be a a lot of minor bugs with it and I couldn't decide between this and the Sony PCM-D10. The Sony interface isn't as fancy as the Tascam but Sonys just seem to work. Thanks for the review.

[@curtisjudd]

You're welcome and happy recording to you!

[@MrHamit64]

Ah so you have to put the thing in stand buy mode then. Yes like the Olympus recorders. That always in stand buy mode thing confused Neal with the H6. Cause again he too was use to like this recorder does. You press record 1 time to go into stand buy wait to hear what you want then bam smash that record button again with a quickness to get the 3 seconds before and what not.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, old-school.

[@TipsterStu]

You're great reviewer.... Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences... It's appreciated

[@curtisjudd]

My pleasure! Thanks!

[@dragade101]

Interesting, I feel only 1 year for the warranty is a con. I would rather electronic manufactures stood by their product for 5 or 10 years. This means less #ewaste

[@curtisjudd]

That's a valid perspective, too.

[@BeauHannamGuitars]

Very interesting video. Thanks. Will you be doing a review (and comparison) of the Zoom F3??

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, definitely planning to review the F3 once I get my copy.

[@thechronicnoizeco.6675]

I’m not buying any new hardware unless it has USB-C. Usb mini is ok but micro is a broken port waiting to happen.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, though I've had some issues with USB-C as well, sadly.

[@dynamichorse9779]

Mannn...damn shit intro at first, without mentioning the details put in this review that make everything for pros & cons. Buttt, some cons are not unique and can be in many recorders sir

[@curtisjudd]

Every recorder has pros and cons. 👍

[@vKarl71]

I hate the tiny SD cards, so easy to drop in the field & hard to find. Also I've found them less reliable long term.

[@curtisjudd]

I hear you.