America's NEW F-15-EX Dominates Disputed Air Space

[@Taskandpurpose]

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[@Kuhladestkyicky]

Got a 2023 Gen 4K tv. I can see Chris getting older or younger. Can’t tell. The EX come with a k-cup coffee maker?

[@RockPowerUSA]

​@@MisterNiSo what about those aliens and those aircraft we have built or cloned? You know Steven Greer I'm assuming and you probably have had a chance to at least get a summary of the major news conference yesterday with complete disclosure of our BLACK BOX government that needs to follow the Constitution. It looks like we have several species of aliens and about 112 crafts collected or downed. There's a map that shows all the secret sites too. Thoughts?

[@leester9487]

Please stop with the background sound effects and music for those of us with ADHD.

[@FighterFlash]

Crappy, you give the best investing advice!

[@johnmccormick8462]

F-15 is still undefeated in air to air combat.

[@mikeharvey9184]

On Ward Carrol's channel several months ago, he had on a former F-15E pilot who had a little bit of stick time on the EX. This guy relayed a conversation he had with some F-22 pilots... apparently during Red Flag war games, one of their favorite scenarios is to be paired up with teammates in non-stealth aircraft with powerful radars. They explained it like this... if trying to find an F-22 was like trying to hear an individual instrument in a symphony, then trying to do it when the F-22's buddies had their radars on full blast was like trying to hear that instrument while standing next to a jackhammer. Apparently it became nearly impossible to pick up the F-22's through all the radar noise. The reason he explained this was because that new radar the F-15EX will have is going to be more powerful and with longer range then any other fighter in the world (and those radars were going to be retrofit into the E models as well). The scenario then becomes one where an F-15EX could stand off out of the radar range of opposing fighters and designate targets while creating so much noise that the opposing force never have the ability to see the F-22's and F-35's (this is on top of the often cited scenario where the stealth aircraft paint targets while the EX's act like missile trucks). Now plop a few of those in Japan and the Philippines...

[@bocadelcieloplaya3852]

I'm mcLuvin it.

[@insanusmaximus2857]

I love stories like this. It's the kind of stuff a typical person (like me) couldn't even conceive, but these guys have perfected it. I've always loved the F-15, and it makes me happy that it still plays such a big role after all these years.

[@toddmetzger]

Add to that where the F22's and F35's stay in radar passive modes, having the F15EX relay the radar data to the other aircraft in the vicinity using narrowband transmissions that are only received by the local aircraft on the allied side. The F15EX's can paint air and ground targets and transmit that data to the stealth aircraft who may not even have to go active with their radars to engage a target, or go active at the last moment to engage the weapon platform. Throw into the mix some that are strictly tasked with SEAD, you can almost guarantee air superiority over most threats including most small drones. The one concern that still hasn't been deployed or talked about much are swarm drones, but that is so costly that most countries can't afford to deploy them, yet....

[@triadwarfare]

In the Philippines, I don't think we can even afford F15EX. We could barely afford the Korean FA50 and Turkish ATAK helicopter. It'll have to be manned and maintained by the US, but in the event of war, by law, the US cannot use the Philippines as a staging ground to defend Taiwan (but reality of war may change that)

[@toddmetzger]

@@triadwarfare Who knows, you might get a few...just because the alliance needs them there.

[@simonphoenix3789]

The F15 is one of the greatest fighter jets to ever be made, and the fact that we are still building and using a design from nearly half a century ago speaks to how capable they are.

[@hankblaster]

after sf14

[@LiviuLeonte-g8v]

Excelent, send to Zelensky, everyone wish to send in Ukraine all the junk , after tank graveyard, a airplane cemetary sound relaxing.

[@tonyh4502]

I want one for Christmas

[@tonyh4502]

I need one

[@Xenomorphine]

The USAF doesn't want them. It's a political decision to give Boeing work. The USAF wants the vastly more capable F-35.

[@Fahrvergnügen82]

It’s the one fighter air frame they got right the first time. Able to install new technologies that weren’t even thought of when it was designed is a testament to it’s greatness. I have spoken

[@bryangibson2788]

100% agree. Greatest of all time imo.

[@patrickkelly8095]

Don’t forget the f16 which is the most US produced fighter plane ever.

[@DatBoiJoe_07]

THE SHELL HAS SPOKEN

[@jeboblak5829]

Ironically, you are wrong in very close proximity to being right. The other airframe they got right was the "low" version in the "High/Low" pair of the F-15: the F-16. Taiwan currently has over 100 and they are actively procuring F-16Vs. Viper, baby!

[@memento_mori6454]

​@@bryangibson2788 Absolute greatest. I agree.

[@tsweitz]

People are really complaining about how Chris says nuclear? Leave the guy alone, he does an amazing job of presenting a lot information in a entertaining and educational manner. Keep it up Task and Purpose.

[@Daithi333Mac]

I didn't hear anything wrong with it, sounds like British pronunciation and certainly nothing to get speech therapy for.

[@Idislikeyourfacealot]

@@Daithi333Mac Maybe he is referring to older videos. He pronounces it correctly here

[@jonniiinferno9098]

it's Nukular - get it right 😜

[@therealchayd]

@@jonniiinferno9098 To quote Peter Griffin: "Hahahaha, you said Nuclear! It's Nucular, dummy, the 'S' is silent..."

[@stevenpace892]

No trouble understanding him. Speech therapy is not necessary, but if he wants to speak better, good for him. Speaking clearly is almost as important as having something to say, which he definitely does.

[@flipsideca]

I still love seeing the F-15 dominate the skies even in 2020's.

[@geordiewishart1683]

You go to toilet everywhere in the street

[@Menaceblue3]

In the 2050's it'll be fighting alien spacecraft

[@doesntmatter4477]

Super India, where women can walk safely alone at night AND they have a multitude of toilets everywhere. Lol.

[@jaypaige7550]

@@geordiewishart1683 🤣🤣

[@Totemparadox]

​@@indiasuperclean6969India SuperPowar 2023 nuke Pakistan!!!!!!

[@macvos]

Good video, but one small but important correction: the Legion pod functionality of sharing targeting information with other units has been a major capability in F-35 development from the beginning. The idea is that it can penetrate enemy airspace and pass on targeting information to non-stealthy units outside that airspace, even ground and sea units. It's even part of the sales pitch for the F-15EX, with the Eagle providing the F-35 with more ordnance. The F-35 is far more likely to pass targeting information on to the F-15EX than the other way around.

[@markn6941]

Nice catch, I was thinking the same when he said that.

[@jamesklee]

Sometimes you just need a workhorse that doesn't do ALL the fanciest new things, but is incredible at most of the important ones. Sounds like the F-15EX fits that bill.

[@gamm8939]

Just too bad it costs more than an F35 while being a worse plane

[@chuckdavinci9044]

It's the best aircraft ever built. It will destroy the F-35 in a race, in a dogfight, and in literally any other competition people can think of, except that many inferior aircraft are less expensive. The 100+/0 combat record of the F-15 is unmatched in the history of the world and absolutely priceless in any context.

[@gamm8939]

@@chuckdavinci9044 either you are a reformist or you have no ungodly idea of what the fuck you are talking about. Oh wow, it's faster than the F35. Oh wow, it beats it in a dog fight. Both things do not matter in the slightest in modern air combat. The F35 is unmatched in BVR combat, the only component relevant in the 21st century. 100% of all pilots that have flown other USAF aircraft and the F35 would rather fly the F35 in BVR.

[@CptJistuce]

@@gamm8939 It's actually better than the F-35 in almost every respect. And there's a lot of scenarios where being faster, more maneuverable, longer-ranged, and more heavily-armed is actually more important than having a low radar profile.

[@gamm8939]

@@CptJistuce being more maneuverable doesn’t matter at all. In modern air to air combat the only thing that matters is your radar cross section, your radar and the range of your missile. It’s not a superior aircraft at all, and actually no one at the DoD or the Air Force wants it, but congress is forcing them to buy it.

[@memyself637]

The F-15EX, when used in the western Pacific to counter China, will be a prime candidate for controlling 'loyal wingman' drones. Being a two-seat aircraft the weapons systems operator (WSO) in the back seat could manage the drones while the pilot concentrates on flying and defending the aircraft.

[@markmitchell457]

@kirsch-qj9bg Your syntax and grammar were completely wrong troll. None of that was in English. FOAD.

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

​@Коп Kirsch Work on your English, as it stands your ramblings are indecipherable

[@blackhawk7r221]

Waaay ahead of you. We call them “swarms”, but not controlled by 15’s yet. I’ve said enough.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

Lol ..."in the western Pacific"?... More like the East China Sea and South China Sea.

[@mooch2oh6]

Most of them will probably be 1-seaters.

[@skywatcher5616]

I was in GCI working F-4s through Vietnam. I got out shortly after Saigon fell and did not get to work them. I was at Luke AFB which had one of the first trainig squadrons. The difference in power of thrust was quite evident in watching the Gate climb of an F-4 vs an F-15. The turn rate was phenomenal compared to the F-4. That was 1975. It was like watching a turbo charged sports car vs a limousine. Absolutely impressive.

[@bryangibson2788]

Were you there when one of the airmen got blown in half by a nose tire explosion? Horrible.

[@skywatcher5616]

@@bryangibson2788 , No, that must have happened after I got out. I was at Luke for my last 6 months.

[@David-fj5lz]

Wrong, now, there is NO border in the US now the doors are flung open by Biden

[@wompa70]

Also, the back-seater in the F15-EX is optional. Which means they're available for things not flight-related. Like keeping track of semi-autonomous wingmen.

[@kjj26k]

Oh, that's really cool. Ya got two crew: Pilot, and Mother of Drones.

[@MjolnirFeaw]

@@kjj26k Good point: F-15 being the heavy lifter it is, it could be a amazing platform for deploying drones.

[@madmo1692]

If the F-15EX is able to use the wingman drone concept it would make this platform extremely formidable even against next gen adversaries

[@jeffho1727]

​@@kjj26k Talk to me Mother Goose!!

[@Xenomorphine]

The F-15 isn't going to be used for that. They're going to be for the F-35 to begin with and then NGAD, whcih is what will replace the F-22s and F-15s in service.

[@sangmoon2464]

The F-15EX is a missile truck. In a real war, the F-35 is supposed to paint the targets, and the F-15EX is supposed to flood the air with missiles from the rear and wipe the skies clean.

[@mattblom3990]

F-15 EX is essentially HIMARS in the air now.

[@BetterThanLifeProd]

The F35 isn't supposed to paint targets. If you are emitting, you aren't stealthy. The Eagle marks the targets for the stealth craft.

[@ex0duzz]

That's dumb. The stealth loyal wingman drones with the stealth jets light up the targets.

[@williamwchuang]

​@@ex0duzzthey don't exist yet.

[@usonumabeach300]

Pretty sure the E3s are putting in most of the guidance

[@famousforever8556]

I remember seeing two F-15 Eagles on the tarmac at McChord Air Force base in 1983. They were so highly classified that we weren't allowed to take any pictures or be anywhere near it, but seeing it even that close was crazy! We even got to try the the training simulator for it and got their squadron flight patch. It felt like we were in future land!

[@bryangibson2788]

I was a crew chief on them for about 13 years. Awesome jet...and built tough, unlike the 5th gen jets.

[@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074]

They didn't want you to see the remnants of the Soviet MiG-25 Foxbat they copied in order to create the F-15 Eagle.

[@Mikeysixkiller]

Strange. As a kid in the early 80's, I went to an air show at O'Hare airport in Chicago and was up close with these baby's. I talked to the pilot, touched it, walked around and under it. A kids dream come true.

[@eeroala5132]

They were not visually classified, just visually sensitive.

[@robertwhatley9861]

I grew up with F-15 as one of my favorite fighters. It makes me happy to see the eagle still kicking butt!

[@andrewrees6618]

Me too.

[@mikewithers299]

Me 3! It just keeps getting better

[@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10]

The F-15 is literally if the United States was a plane

[@stuartthornton3027]

​@@mikewithers299I never thought it was going to happen. There was all the hype about Silent Eagle but that never happened, thought this would go the same way, sooo glad it didn't. There is so much potential.

[@angelarch5352]

F-15 is still the best at many jobs, so I am very happy to see it continue being improved into the future. When you have a Hi-Lo airforce, and the Low part is a brand new F-15EX... that is quite outstanding!

[@danielbarnes7559]

😂😂😂😂 great point

[@bryangibson2788]

NO DOUBT

[@LeonAust]

True ..........but why would you build a second class aircraft F-15 for the same money as the 1st class aircraft F-35.

[@scottlangley5596]

​@@LeonAustthey have different roles. You would want both. As well as raptors and bombers.

[@scottlangley5596]

What would be really truly outstanding would be for politicians to stop allowing themselves to be bribed by the Healthcare system into always voting against the best interests of the people. Do you know they could build *checks math* 6,610 F-15EX fighters with the money saved by going to a system like that in Canada, and have free health care for all? The system wastes $628 billion a year on paperwork and executive salaries that would be saved, as in it wouldn't cost trillions like they scare everyone with, it would save $628 billion that could be spent on bombs and planes so everyone wins right?and you would not have to pay anything extra for health care. That would be outstanding.

[@CoffeeMakerStudios]

Just found this after searching “F-15EX”, and this was exponentially more detailed and entertaining than I thought any old result for that search would be. Hell of a video

[@gbear34]

F15-EX is a really nice compliment to 5th gens for sure. Sometimes, you don't care if you're seen. Sometimes, you even want to be seen.

[@hugoguerreiro1078]

Plus if they focus on the noisy planes they be less likely to notice the stealthy ones feeding targetting information from up close.

[@memelephant]

Yes definitely. However, stealth planes often carry radar deflectors for this purpose, especially making friendly communicaitons easier

[@AgneDei]

​@@memelephant Only during peace time and non combat specific missions (like patrolling, training etc).

[@somethingmoredecent]

@@hugoguerreiro1078 This is a common misconception here. The stealth aircraft do not feed targeting info to a rear unit. Period. That would require going active and they lose all stealth capacity at that point. Did you miss the part where they talk about the new radar? That noisy plane in the back is what will mark and manage targeting for the stealth fighters, not the other way around. It will also serve as a missile truck while fulfilling this first purpose at the same time; it isn't a binary choice where you only get one or the other. It will mark targets FOR stealth fighters, so that they can stay STEALTHY. This should not be so hard yet every other person is under the same impression as you.

[@uku4171]

complement* Complimenting is when you say something nice about someone.

[@forksandspoons7272]

I realize that appearance has nothing to do with capabilities. That said, as a recruitment tool, the F15 platform is invaluable. I remember being a kid and thinking to myself. "Damn!!!! How cool would it be to pilot that thing!!!" Butts in seats is just as important as the planes capabilities. It doesn't matter what the plane can do if it never leaves the ground.

[@Claymann71]

(Report the creepy India-Bot for Spam. I know, it's tempting to hit Misinformation, too...) If you didn't have a Model-Kit of the F-15 as a 90s kid (93), yer parents didn't -redacted.-

[@musicheaven1679]

​@@Claymann71When your parents aren't American

[@ToTheNines87368]

I think that today, and I’m 36 haha.

[@thomassecurename3152]

@@indiasuperclean6969 why did China make a news reporter from India leave?

[@toddmetzger]

I remember how cool it was when the first F15 simulator hit the PC market, ooh man was that awesome. Then later better graphics and computational models became available, it just got better and better.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

The per unit and per flight hour costs are no longer an issue for the F-35 due to improvements in RAM. This improvement in heat resistance of RAM is also going to lower the per/hour costs for the F22! The big thing for the F-15 is that it is a huge missile truck that could carry some of the biggest missiles around. The F-35 can ask the F-15 to fire a specific munition and then can redirect that munition on the way to the target. This makes the combo extremely powerful. Especially once the aim 260 is available.

[@mikeyd4390]

Can you go further with this RAM subject? This is the first I've heard.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

​@@mikeyd4390 Radar Absorbing Material. It is a material that can now absorb up to 80% of a specific set of electromagnetic waves, in this case in targeting radar spectrum. This is used in areas where the shape of the plane cannot deflect the wave away from the radar receiver. It's used to "hide" various areas like panel doors and screws and parts of control surfaces. basically anywhere a surface or object on the plane may change it's relative position to the radar receiver changing it's reflection. This material originally was somewhat fragile and so high performance jet like the F22 would "wear" this RAM off and it had to be repaired to keep the Radar Cross Section to it's minimum. Note, any damage to the F22 like an explosion of a missile that might not kill the F22 would make it's RCS jump up from a bumble bee size to a much larger object. The F35's RAM was developed later and is less fryable but it does need consistent maintenance. Early RAM was also reactive to water, it didn't absorb as well when wet. Over time new materials are being developed including ceramic RAM that absorb and disperse electromagnetic wave but also don't heat up like earlier RAM, now it even disperses Infrared and Ultraviolet in a way that makes modern missile seekers harder to find the target and more vulnerable to countermeasures. NOTE, all this information is publicly available. The US and EU have GREAT Chem E.s!

[@myhometechguy]

F 22 and f-35 can also carry quite a few missiles on external hard points.

[@charlesrichardson8635]

​@@myhometechguy They can when they are not in air dominance mode. In fact when Air Dominance is achieved and the F22 provides protection, F35 can use it's beast mode carry more ordinance than an A10 or F15 strike eagle, OR deliver lots of standoff weapons! The F22 as a ground support is more of "check it off the list" item.

[@warfarenotwarfair5655]

The F-15EX is a crony capitalist venture, nothing more. The guy that headed up the project for the Pentagon was a former executive at Boeing. The USAF yet again is being used as a corporate ATM machine and a welfare program for union workers.

[@jjfelldownawell]

I love watching this channel grow! Watching the production quality increase over the years has been awesome

[@Chirhopher]

Amen. i watched some of the old ones a bit back, and You are definitely correct!

[@NinjaMan47]

I do think Stealth capable fighters have been taking up too much of the attention. Most of the time what a nation really needs is not a silent killer like the F-22 or 35 but a 'guard dog.' An interceptor, a patrol craft and an escort fighter, one that will not break the budget with the operating costs of a stealth aircraft.

[@jimmiller5600]

That's why the F16 was fielded -- "High - Low".

[@brandonlevy8680]

Unfortunately, the west shoed itself in, when they made 5th generation and only equated it to stealth. 5th generation aircraft are only awesome if they remain undetected. With the U.S's love of over match, we sometimes forget that every star player needs a team. Stealth has a lot of advantages, but so does speed, raw power, payload and battlefield awareness combined in one package.

[@jimmiller5600]

@@brandonlevy8680 LOL. Rationalization at it's best. Good luck.

[@brandonlevy8680]

@@jimmiller5600 In every single combat scenario with any type of force, there are the pawns, the knights, rooks, bishops and king and queen. How do you think air power is any different? So, why don't you educate me? Show me how that air superiority is any different in the tactical sense than any other form of warfare? Those expensive kings and queens can't be everywhere. Naval has the HVUs, surrounded by subs and pickets. Land warfare has, artillery, infantry and armor. So please, feel free to explain why air power is unique in that one aircraft is perfect for every scenario?

[@jimmiller5600]

@@brandonlevy8680 Don't you get tired re-arranging the Titanic's deck chairs? First, "the west" is a jumble of countries and strategies so how can you come up with "5th generation and only equated it to stealth" as a singular tactic? Second, how did you get the definition of 5th Gen so wrong? Only stealth? Rubbish. A cursory wiki search would show SIX criteria for 5th gen. I'm gonna stop here, until you're up to speed. If you want we can resume at that point.

[@CJ_Ludwig501]

I absolutely love the F15 and the F15EX. Its kinda hard to argue against stats and results. The most important number for continuing the F15 program is 104-0. That's the F15s kill ratio. 104 enemy planes shot down without a single loss.

[@dnlcast2]

An F-15 was shot down in 1991 by a MIG-25 Foxbat

[@LeonAust]

No@@dnlcast2

[@Dire_Pack]

​@@dnlcast2it was shot down by anti air, not an aircraft. don't know where you got your information from

[@brandongriffin79]

@@dnlcast2nice propaganda

[@philparnell757]

2 F15Es were shot down in desert storm by surface to air missiles, NOT an aircraft@@dnlcast2

[@aprokupets]

The F15 is not stealthy, but it is very very tough. There is a story from 1983 where it managed to safely land after losing one of its wings...

[@Moondoggymungmung]

I also remember the pilot didn't fully realize the extent of the damage til he landed

[@lincolnlu9869]

The body accounts for more lift than one of the wings

[@sushio4357]

There was one story of a plane snapping in half mid flight (which has been addressed and upgrades has been made to the air frame). The snapping incident happened after the aircraft managed to land with one wing. So landing with one wing doesn't automatically translate to "very very tough", the toughest jets are su-25 and a-10, the toughest fighter jets will probably something be the mig 31s

[@angrydoggy9170]

Sometimes you want your opponent to know you’re there.

[@bluemarlin8138]

@@sushio4357 The lost wing was from a mid-air collision, not a structural failure. The Mig-31 really doesn’t have a lot of structural strength because it’s not a fighter, just an interceptor and weapons platform. The wings weren’t designed to be able to maneuver, or to take the stress required to do so. If you tried to turn a Mig-31 like you can turn an F-15, the wings would fall off. I believe there was one incident with an early model F-15 having a wing snap off during training, but this was in the 2000s and that particular aircraft was one of the oldest F-15s with an absurd number of flight hours on it, which caused excessive metal fatigue in the wing spars. The Su-25 is tough, but not as tough as the A-10 because of the position of the engines and the wing design being inherently more vulnerable. Both aircraft are obsolete though.

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

Insane that foxbat panic built a plane so strong it's viable even today

[@asterixdogmatix1073]

And that the Foxbat actually turned out to be such a POS.

[@OhTheGeekness]

I am certainly not an expert but I am a military hardware enthusiast. This sounds like an excellent idea to me. Putting all our eggs into one basket (albeit a stealthy basket) doesn't sound like a great idea. The F15EX and the F35 would complement each other very well. Great speed and maneuverability, combined with the best fighter radar in the world and a f'ton of ordinance sounds pretty useful.

[@BasedF-15Pilot]

Good video. I'll use my experience in the F-15C to address points in chronological order. We're not upgrading F-15s into the EX, we're buying new F-15EX models because the F-15Cs have way too many flight hours on them, to the point that the airframes are cracking and there are G-load limits on them now. Why? The F-35 can't fill the missions roles the F-15C does and there aren't enough F-22s. The F-35 needs a host of logistics support such as FOBs, Tankers and AWACS that the F-15 doesn't need. Why? Range. F-35 can't project airpower because it's too small, it has a hard time cooling the radar and they still can't get close to the APG-63 radar range of the old C model. The F-35 is a 2nd line situation awareness platform in a large airforce and a small regional fighter for a small air force. The F-15C has the worldwide record for longest missile shot, range is classified. We dont care if you see us when we have missiles on the way by the time you do. Can we lock and shoot the F-22 and F-35? Yes. F-22 is harder by far. I've 'air policed' ADIZ in Iceland, Latvia and Estonia etc. F-15Cs accompanied the F-22s on the balloon shoot down because of the SNIPER pods capability btw. Confiormal fuel tanks are indeed a drag. Since the F-15Cs left Lakenheath, F-15Es have been air policing with conformals off. Best case in hindsight we should have given the F-35 contract to Boeing and let Lockheed keep making F-22s. Congress/Defense appointees really hamstrung the USAF so that Lockheed could have their export darling F-35. The F-15EX is the stop gap to the loss in mission capability that decision cost us.

[@BobrKurwa98]

Based

[@UzumakiNaruto_]

F-15 is still one of the most beautiful fighter jets ever after all these years. Good to see that it will still be in service for years to come. 😘😍🥰😍😍😘

[@myhometechguy]

People don't understand the importance of stealth. Even if it doesn't rmake you invisible, it doesn't render stealth useless. Think of it like fighting an adversary in a forest and you get camouflage and he has to wear bright orange. It makes you visible at much shorter distance. You will see your adversary before they see you. Even if they can see you, it makes it much harder to obtain and maintain a target track. Missiles have much smaller sensors than fighter jets and it is more difficult for them to maintain a track. Also, countermeasures are much more effective to a plane that is already harder to see.

[@ViewBothSides]

Pretty good analysis for an Average Infantryman, congrats. I've been up close with F15's for a decade and in the business of delivering the hate, there's not much of any kind of weapon that can single-handedly deliver as much hate as the F15E. With the best airframe cold-war dollars could buy the plane is totally upgradeable so the tech has been refreshed many times over so there's no real comparison in terms of strike capability with the original.

[@danstotland6386]

@@indiasuperclean6969 You are posting in the wrong forum.

[@EvLSpectre]

Long live the mudhen!

[@whatisahandle_69]

@@danstotland6386 it's a bot.

[@johnallison4688]

As always incisive and informative. It seems to me that this would be more appropriate for us in Australia than the F35. Keep up with the good work, you are certainly no ordinary infantryman.

[@triadwarfare]

@@whatisahandle_69 doesn't matter. They're annoying either way.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

I've heard the aerial doctrine idea is to use F-15EXs as rear-line flying missile-artillery boats, while using F-35s as deep-penetration scout-recon units. The F-35 paints targets from behind enemy lines and at close aerial detection range, and rather than give up its own stealth by launching its own payloads, it relays the information back to long-range missile-equipped F-15EXs that use pre-acquired targeting data from the F-35s to launch from outside their own detection range, essentially allowing the F-15EX to snipe enemies from afar, while tripling the kill-payload of the F-35, without endangering either jet.

[@ItsFourLokoFriday]

can we all just appreciate how cool that is? the fact that one plane can fire a missile from 250km away, and another plane can guide it in for the kill on an aircraft travelling at Mach speeds?

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

@@ItsFourLokoFriday Only thing we're waiting on is a long-range missile capable of working in this system, since the AMRAAM's range doesn't even come close to sufficient for purpose. But that said, they've been developing several different long-range AAMs, with this particular doctrine in mind for a couple of them too. And as has often been the case, there's a chance there's already been one chosen and put into production that we won't know about until the first one splashes a Chinese bandit.

[@domcamp3313]

@@Liberty_or_Dedaim-260 is very close to being operational, and the upgraded aim 120 can do the job already

[@franchise-pj6ow]

Sir whistle blowing is a crime ! Your coming with me !

[@andrewfranson4756]

The F15C is a straight up air to air combat beast and there's no reason to spend a lot of time designing new shapes, and structures at enormous cost. Engine, and avionic updates, along with a shiny new airframe is the best use of taxpayer money I have seen in a long time. Besides, the 105 to ZERO kill ratio kinda makes being an Eagle Driver the best job in the military 😋

[@JB-pu8ik]

our foreign military sales clients have also dumped a few hundred million dollars worth of modernization and upgrades into the F-15 production lines over the last 30 years or so. So Uncle Sam is benefiting from those improvements/developments.

[@giffordsamuelson2163]

I’m not an engineer, but it seems to make a lot of sense to use existing technology and improve on it rather than overhauling the whole plane every decade.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

​@@giffordsamuelson2163especially proven Designs that have a huge overlap in existing maintenence and training for pilot and crew. It is also faster to develop.

[@kenponinja1877]

100%... On top of that within modern Air Combat doctrine the new F-15-EX plays the role of carrying the payload into an air battle. The Stealth Fighters and integrated link tech that shares info as mentioned via the Legion Pod, can and will and send messages to payload carriers to fire a munition at a target as fast as possible. If you have a flight of these aircraft loitering with massive amounts of payload munitions with decent range loitering at the edge of an aerospace battlefield you absolutely increase the capability of the Stealth Fighters to continue a mission well after they have spent their munitions. The F-15-EX adds a capability enhancement to all Stealth fighters in this manner.

[@andrewfranson4756]

@@kenponinja1877 No kidding there, a flight of 4 sporting 52 AMRAM's will keep a lot of bandits busy for quite some time.

[@jimbrogan9835]

Old isn't necessarily bad, new isn't necessarily good. All things have to be examined in the light of day and evaluated for their actual use and value. The way you describe it sounds like something we should keep using, at least for the now, till we have something better. Thanks for making great videos.

[@Sorain1]

The A-10 and B-52 are still being used (and upgraded) for good reason.

[@DXD2004-]

True, but how do you feel about spending YOUR taxpayer dollars on weapons that don't stand a chance on the modern battlefield? Forget Iraq, Syria, Lybia ect. Those were 3rd world militaries. I wonder how well F22, F35 or even F15 would hold against air defense system like Russia's. Ukraine is getting F16 soon, I guess we shall see.

[@mitchjames9350]

Just look at the US and Russians upgrading there 4th gen fighters.

[@JohnS916]

I'm all in on the new F15EX. It's weapons capability, massive speed, and ultra modern electronics make it the dominating fighter jet now as it was when first introduced. Great preview of this beautiful aircraft.

[@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074]

It has never faced combat. So how is it dominant? Americans and their propaganda.

[@nolongerblocked6210]

I literally lol'd with joy when Cappy said: "..it can target and launch 12 missiles at one time.." That is absolutely outstanding!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@alex3261]

Flying in ADIZ is not an airspace violation. An AIr Defense IDentification Zone - ADIZ is a self established area, usually extended overthe internationalairspace abovesea. Sometimes, that overlaps the civil aviation Flight Information Region - FIR.

[@B21_raider]

Exactly

[@wothin]

Yeah, kinda pathetic of him to act like it is airspace. The funny thing is that when it is about China acting the same as Japan, he suddenly doesn't call it airspace of a a country.

[@Metapharsical]

How do I always know where to find the Wumao?

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

​@@Metapharsical ADIZ are located in international airspace.

[@wothin]

@@Metapharsical Paranoia

[@patrickrichardson5916]

Remember my brother at Eglin Airforce base in FL letting me sit in the cockpit of an F15 Eagle. Fell in love with that fighter then and still love it today. Glad to see it still in use and ready to go when needed.

[@giffordsamuelson2163]

The F15 is a gorgeous plane and it’s brilliantly designed. If it ain’t broke… don’t retire it and get a slower stealth craft with less weapons payload.

[@TheSchultinator]

Completely ignoring how much of an advantage stealth is and how a new aircraft can have new computers, sensors, and software built in rather than trying to stuff it into an existing airframe.

[@seraphx26]

@@TheSchultinator We don't know how much of an advantage stealth is that is kind of the problem, for one thing as great as the F-22 is and F-35 could be, I do believe they will show up on rival 5th gen jet radars, even if as a bird sized blip, and that those jets will get a firing solution and engage. The reason I am not sold on stealth is because we haven't fought a peer competitor since World War 2, every other conflict we've been in since then we've had complete tech dominance over, that will not be the case with China and to a lesser degree Russia, in either of those scenarios we are stepping into the unknown and cannot be so certain of our own capabilities. On paper the F-22 and F-35 look amazing, problem is they have very limited combat records, the F-35 is still riddled with problems to this very hour and I would be surprised if it isn't put to the wayside in favor of the NGAD I doubt the F-35 will ever see major combat like the F-22 before it. Unfortunately in spite of our own military admitting that China is either near parity in most technologies, and have exceeded us in others, people still have this bizarre cold war perception of Chinese capabilities as being low tech or incompetent. Our own military officials are very concerned about where we are in relation to China but the American citizenry has this crazy opposite belief that China would be a push over.

[@hoghogwild]

It was breaking, that's why the Eagle is being replaced by the Eagle-II. The Canadians literally had to take over NORAD duties with their CF-18 Hornets while the F-15C were safety stood down in 2009. the Eagle-2 is a stronger airframe.

[@drksideofthewal]

@@TheSchultinator It's frustrating how many people are ignorant about the F-35. Fourth gen fighters like the F-15 *cannot* perform strikes on targets protected by a modern integrated air defense without taking obscene losses. It really doesn't matter how "badass" people think the F-15 is. 20+ countries aren't purchasing or developing stealth fighters for no reason.

[@TheSchultinator]

@@seraphx26 Any amount of stealth is better than not, that's the point. Even if it just knocks 20% off a radar's detection range, that's an advantage, and as far as we know the stealth tech on F-35 is a lot better than 20%. As for 5th-gen fighter radar being able to lock and track stealth craft...how? When they design stealth aircraft they are designing against the very radars those aircraft will being using, in addition to ground and AWACS systems. Unless you know something I don't, the sort of tech leap needed for radars to neutralize stealth isn't coming any time soon. And I have no idea why you brought China up, that's not a part of this discussion.

[@Monty-Remick]

It's like grandpa's muscle car but with a better motor, updated wheels and tires, and updated electronics.Still a classic!!! 💯

[@marcm.]

Grandpa? Man you whippersnappers... Now get off my lawn

[@madmo1692]

A restomodded F-15?! Great analogy!

[@badgerpa9]

F-15 is the fastest jet the USA flies now. With upgrades it would be even faster which is perfect for interceptor role.

[@captainsledge7554]

Eagle driver here, they will not retire the f15 platform for a very long time. Even currently they are capable of more than the 22s.

[@chrisbusenkell]

Keep 'em coming. Thus far, everything we invested in the F-15 paid off in spades. It's one of the best fighters and air superiority fighters, if not THE, ever made. It's an excellent weapons platform, with capabilities that can make exactly what the F-15EX is hard to define. I guarantee you 5 to 10 years from now the F-15EX will still be at the top of a very short list of fighters that dominate the skies. So many of the foreign made stealth planes aren't going to achieve stealth, some ever and others only from a very limited perspective. One or two F-15EX embedded with F-22s and or F-35s, is a flight of planes no one could defeat. The vast majority of opposing fighters wouldn't even get within visual range of such a group. The best part is, it's also a top tier plane in speed and payload. As a fail safe, the u.s. could sell them used and most of the rest of the air force's on this planet would be falling over themselves to get in line to buy them. Anyone who disagrees just hasn't learned enough about this plane.

[@rodwallace6237]

100 kills in air combat 0 loses 2 lost to ground fire in Gulf War, 1 in Iraq

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Definitely. A flight out there with the F35's stealth and data networking, and the F15's capability as a launch platform would be quite the challenge to deal with

[@chuckdavinci9044]

Stealth is a joke. Satellites are watching every airstrip in the world, 24/7, and tracking everything in the air, since the 1950s. It's a threat to Russia and China because they're broke and cheap. It's not a threat to the US or other Western nations.

[@DXD2004-]

@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind Pipe dreams! Everyone fell asleep after beating the crap out of Sadam's 3rd world Airforce. The world moved on. Russians and Chinese have modern radars that can detect USA's "stealth" planes. Instead of investing in missile tech we went on with this Stealth and aircraft carrier nonsense. Turns out all it takes is 3-4 Kinzals and aircraft carrier is gone. Kinzal is a little guy, Zircon is the one to worry about. USA/NATO has the largest military budget in the world and nothing to show for it except submarines.

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

@DXD2004- Kinzals? LOL We are literally giving away missle defense systems that swat them out of the sky, what makes you think they're any more of a threat than all the other hypersonic ballistic missles that have been around since the 80's? What's your point about radars being able to see stealth planes? Radars have always had the capability of seeing them, there is no such thing as a RCS of 0. The problem has never been radar being able to see stealth planes, and has always been the user of the radar being able to pick them out from the background noise of other things flying around with similar RCS levels. There's a whole lot of things flying around with a RCS equivalent to a 1/8in sphere (rounding up for a F-117), nevermind the .004in sphere equivalent of the more modern planes

[@szaszm_]

It sounds like it dominates when stealth is not the highest concern, while also being cheaper. Sounds good to me.

[@livethefuture2492]

Dont know why they keep calling the F-15 'old', its still a highly capable 4th generation aircraft much like the F-16, and F-18's we currently operate. Just cuz it was designed in the 70's and then upgraded over time doesnt mean its 'old' , so was the F-16 and F-18 and superhornet and most of current 4th gen capability.

[@Arcane808]

I came into this very sceptical, but if their radar is actually that good, no need to worry about stealth. They could fire all 12 missiles, and RTB to re-arm with that range, if they don't try intercepting. The engine should boost it enough so it doesn't have as much drag when holding onto all 12 missiles, seems like a new work horse

[@philparnell757]

my F15E is outfitted with that radar and does detect 35s and 22s, issue is the missile tracking

[@paulschulte1064]

I worked as a machinist at McDonnell aircraft in St. Louis Missouri and remember what it was like walking through the final assembly building - a line of 15s lined up in various states of assembly awesomeness.

[@floydlooney6837]

They should charge for tours.

[@jamesmedina2062]

it would be nice if McDonnell still was

[@TuberoseKisser]

Thanks for the red circle! I wouldn't have noticed that secret!

[@jayb.7985]

The F-15 is one of my favorite fighter planes of All time and with it’s capabilities being expanded I am Happy to see it’s service life extended as it truly a Beast and when ‘Stealth” isn’t the priority, it is Unmatched!

[@DXD2004-]

Yeah it is a hot rod/unmatched... against Mig 21 and no air defense.

[@renopelletier4952]

I flew the F-15E and the USAF needs more than the proposed number they plan to buy. The new jets should be going to the active duty and not to the guard. Flying intercept missions defending the ADIZ does not require the newest and most advanced aircraft, case in point the recent aircraft that crashed in Virginia. Building the new fighter without conformal tanks reflects on the strength of the Air to Air mafia in the USAF, the moto of “not a pound for air to ground” comes to mind. I loved the fact you covered the man hours require to keep the stealthy aircraft airborne. With the recruitment problems the USAF is facing, those man hours required will only get more difficult to accomplish. The USAF could have kept the cost down had they signed a contract for a long term buy. Boeing is now out there signing contract for X number aircraft rather than a specific number which would allow them to be in a stronger position to negotiate a better price. I could go on but I hope you get my point, the USAF leadership is putting all their eggs in “new technology” with very limited payload, range and loiter time.

[@kenponinja1877]

As a former GWOT USAF Crew Chief, can confirm.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

With respect, us Guardsmen need good equipment as well. My unit just upgraded to the M1-A2 SEP V2 tanks from the A1 SA models. Give us a shot- you might be surprised how skilled and tenacious we can be.

[@renopelletier4952]

The Guard does need good equipment but $80 million dollar aircraft to intercept a Cessna, really?

[@lawless201]

What is the argument that USAF makes to justify supplying the Guard rather then the active squadrons with mint aircraft? Is it flight hours logged on the airframe, maybe a Congressional decree? Has this been done before, the prioritizing Guard over active units? I'm with you, it seems a hairbrained idea, although the Marines seem to do ok with hand me down equipment, just make sure the Crayon's are in the crate.

[@jakobneubert6801]

Cappy, F-15 is likely having an upgrade so it can hold +32 missiles, due to the new "rotating detonation engine missiles" that has 50% less size - or - double range at nornal size, which would delay further purchases of this model. USAF always keeps a few Aces in its sleeves. They will get get refueled midair by small drones or launch glidebombs with +500 miles range so stealth + combat range is less an issue.

[@vistaredgt]

These new F-15s are much more advanced than their original counterparts. It's like comparing a 1976 Mustang to a 2023 Mustang.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

1969 AC-130 Spectres 2020 AC-130 Ghosteiders

[@lqr824]

17:35 "pass off targetting data to another aircraft" The F-35 can TOTALLY do this from inception. They fly in buddy pairs. The far one has the radar on, and thus is visible to enemies, but keeps far away to be safe. When it spots enemies, it shares the targeting data with the near one, that gets within 20km and kills the enemy from an less-protected angle. Once the near one exhausts his four fires, they trade roles.

[@stephenhood2948]

The F15EX is the warbird I'm excited to see come online. The B21 and the NGAD look and sound great, but seeing 70s tech upgraded to 2020s standards is fascinating. The Eagle is the greatest fighter ever to take flight.

[@ramal5708]

Kind of sad the F-14 didn't get the same treatment as the F-15, since the aircraft was hampered by bureaucracy from the start, by not giving it the same engine as the F-15 (granted they would get it in the upgrade later) also not keeping it past the 2000s and 2010s in the fleet. Because of a guy named Dick making it political and because the other company probably is one of his donors.

[@stephenhood2948]

@@ramal5708 It's all about money to these clowns.

[@PennsyPappas]

When I see something like the F-15 get an extended life I'm thoroughly convinced the designers of so many of our military equipment that was designed in the 70sand 80s really had longevity in mind. I could be wrong but when you look at things like the Abrams tank or the various fighters for both the Air force and Navy these designs have been a force to be reckoned with for decades. One thing I can apply about continuing using Gen 4 aircraft is that its that nice balance between capability and cost vs new Gen 5 aircraft. Which as you pointed out not to many Nations can weild at this time. Now imagine if these could be used against the Russians right now. Then the F-15 could really rack up some more kills to its name.

[@pierredunn68]

F-15s can be used against Russia, just give them to Ukraine 😊

[@Sorain1]

I would suggest that a big part of that is about miniaturization. The Abrams and F-15 were designed to be a specific size to fit specific gear. As tech rolled on, that gear (and often better equivalents of said gear) got smaller/lighter and so with space/weight open for use things got added on. (The Abrams kept getting heavier with each upgrade, though the next proposed change would actually shave 10 tons off IIRC.) Because they were mass manufactured as a platform and are well developed designs (Meaning virtually all the issues are known and if fixable fixed by now) they become cost efficient options for a given role. Example: You want to test an Air-Air DEW system? Stick it on the F-15, B-52 or C-130 platforms depending on weight/size.

[@pilot_bruh576]

Personally we should make new weapons in the mindset of the guys designing the M4 Sherman

[@juliomaldonado4028]

​@@pierredunn68the only issue is that if we give our F15s to some foreign jock, and they allow the F15 to be shot down. It's going to tarnish the Eagles reputation. I morally stand against that

[@bryangibson2788]

​@juliomaldonado4028 i dont think we should give them to anyone.

[@MrNicholas89]

Well The F15EX is the based from the platform of F15E Strike Eagles which is a Multirole strike fighter in 1989. It has stronger structural build than the F15C and was capable for newer upgrades. If the F15EX include parts and systems from the shelved F-15SE Silent Eagle project, it will be a formidable fighter.

[@philparnell757]

theres a funny, not so funny reason as to WHY its more structurally sound, short version, the front separated from the back on the E models lol

[@wolfgangrehulka6240]

Hi Chris - being from Germany, I can only say that I clearly understand every single word you say. So for sure, your international listeners appreciate your clear pronunciation - don’t worry about it. Love your competent analysis… keep going! Great job

[@irvingavidor639]

FYI The McDonald-Douglas F-15 Eagle first flew in 1972, it became operational in 1976, look it up 😃

[@Etheoma]

@@irvingavidor639 yeh but those specific unit and even the a/b are no longer ger flying it's the c/d and even most of the c/d have been moth balled I believe. And really it shouldn't be that surprising that they are still flying we had a good understanding of aerodynamics at that point and the electronics have been upgraded many times.

[@RUDAKID83]

The F15EX is a tank in the sky. It makes perfect sense when supplementing our sltealth aircraft in foreign air missions. The jet can carry the payload of 2x the best Chinese jet fighter/interceptor. You want these missle trucks on your side and allow your stealth to maintain flight secrecy while painting enemy craft for the F15 to handle without our stealth craft opening a weapons bay and revealing itselt in a warzone or to enemy radar. This thing is a beast!

[@evanfinch4987]

I mean it's a tank with an immense opportunity cost, so not really like a tank at all.

[@AmericanMan_05]

The F-15 is the greatest aircraft of all time, and no one can tell me otherwise.

[@ConnieShearer-m1v]

I absolutely LOVE the F-15 in all its iterations, but as to its being the "fastest fighter in the world", doesn't the Mig-31 top out at Mach 3 (for short periods)? Or did you exclude the Mig because it's strictly an "interceptor"?

[@rodwallace6237]

The Mig-31 can reach speeds over Mach 3 but it risks engine damage. Other top speeders, including experimental. 1. NASA/USAF X-15 - Mach 6.72 (4,520 mph) 2. SR-71 Blackbird - Mach 3.4 (2,500 mph+) 3. Lockheed YF-12 - Mach 3.2 (2,275 mph) 4. MiG-25 Foxbat - Mach 3.2 (2,190 mph) 5. Bell X-2 Starbuster - Mach 3.2 (2,094 mph) 6. XB-70 Valkyrie - Mach 3.02 (2,056 mph) 7. MiG-31 Foxhound - Mach 2.83 (1,864 mph) 8. F-15 Eagle - Mach 2.5 (1,650 mph) 9. F-111 Aardvark - Mach 2.5 (1,650 mph) 10. Su-27 Flanker - Mach 2.35 (1,553 mph)

[@foxmcld584]

If I recall correctly, the 31 is almost purely thrust because it's designed to run down bombers. Very small weapons fit, and not terribly manueverable because it's not supposed to chase things that can evade, only things that go high and fast. Not really meant to engage hostile fighters.

[@wb416]

He did say fighters... regardless of it's limited maneuverability and specific role, the MIG 31 is still a fighter with higher top speed.

[@zeitgeist909]

The 31 is an interceptor. The 15 is multi-role, one of which is interceptor. The main reason to go at it's top speed would be to intercept. So, pitting both planes in the same role the 31 wins IMHO as it has the higher top speed and a much higher ceiling. What happens when they get there is more to do with the missiles than the plane so I believe whoever gets there first wins this particular argument. And that would be the 31. Everytime.

[@JohnnieGarner]

I also like the F-15EX for the reasons that you say, but let me add a couple. First the data links capability to receive target data, including aircraft, from F-35s. This would give the F-15 "eyes" even further than its own to very long range missiles. Also the capability to control fighter drones as wingmen which would very much enhance firepower with stealthy features. This is a whole new ball game.

[@dead-claudia]

ah so it pairs extremely well with our existing stealth and allows them to service targets from anywhere compatible us/allied craft can see (provided any level of communication is possible) makes those stealth craft much more useful for force projection - they don't even need to fire

[@derekchristophernordbye7710]

Dude!! That jet is INSANE!!! Now, it's freaking BONKERS with its new capabilities!!! AWESOME!!!!

[@perryhervieux]

Much like the B-52, these older platforms offer so much opportunities with the new electronics.

[@FoxtrotUSA1]

You forgot about the mighty A-10!

[@gamm8939]

@@FoxtrotUSA1 The A-10 is a horrible, ineffective, inefficient, inaccurate platform that has more friendly fire kills then all current air frames combined. The gun doesn't hit anything because the spread is as big as lake Tahoe, the electronics have always sucked. It is quite possibly the worst air frame to perform CAS the USAF posses. But congress keeps it alive, even though the Air Force has been begging to retire it for over 30 years now.

[@benjibernardino1728]

The F-35 has top notch avionics that can communicate and pass off targets to other equipment not just other planes

[@hollowsilver1739]

I don't want free healthcare. I want an F-15EXEX

[@letssuperfuntime]

Don't worry, you won't get either.

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

I want both. Time to cancel social security and medicare/medicaid for few.

[@Otterdisappointment]

We’re so advanced and rich we don’t even need federal healthcare

[@Otterdisappointment]

@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehiclesocial security is federal and co-funded so that’s not even necessary

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

@@Otterdisappointment *"social security is federal and co-funded so that’s not even necessary"* But in order to introduce something like universal healthcare if that is the hypothetical goal, we would need to cut spending on other things, that are not universal healthcare, that we are wasting tax payer money on. usdebtclock claims that social security and Medicare/Medicaid are the 2 most expensive things that the government spends money on.

[@douglasjones2570]

Allegedly, the magnificent F-15 is the only fighter aircraft in history to have NEVER been shot down by an opposing enemy fighter in aerial combat. I’ve successfully been corrected, as noted below, so I must add the corrections that have been bought to my attention, i.e., that three (3) F-15s have been lost to ground fire. An absolutely extraordinary record, especially given the fact that the F-15 has been deployed for more than 30 years. Thank you to CptJistuce, Militavia and Skubidu for your timely corrections.

[@marcm.]

That is old information given that there are newer airframes out there, that have also seen combat. But regardless, given that the amount of times it's been in combat compared to these other airframes is more than double or triple all of them combined, actually I think it's more like five times more than all of them combined... I'm talking about the ones that have been in combat and haven't been shot down, it is still King

[@bleachorange]

there was that one time in israel, with a missing wing... ;)

[@skubiduthememelord156]

It has been shot down by AA guns and SAM, but it has never been shot down by enemy aircraft

[@militavia-air-defense-aircraft]

Nope, even during the Desert Storm two F-15Es were lost. Not by fighters but SAMs.

[@eas2252]

Kosova in the 90s

[@jasonrgriffin]

I really like the F-15-EX. It is a very versatile platform that has reduced operating costs. It can significantly help increase operational capacity in many different areas all in one platform. You can't have every platform be a high. Our stealth fighters are our highs, this should be our low. I hope to see an increase in purchase amount instead of cuts.

[@Xenomorphine]

The USAF doesn't want it, they want more of the vastly more capable (and cheaper to purchase) F-35, instead.

[@MrGaryGG48]

@@Xenomorphine I've watched 4 or 5 videos this evening on the F15-EX and it's predecessors. All of them have stated that the F-35 may be about 10% less expensive to purchase but the hourly operating costs are significantly more expensive. It may be impressive to show off something in your hanger but if you can't afford to operate the beast when you need it, it just lost it's value.

[@Xenomorphine]

@@MrGaryGG48 How? The F-15 simply won't be able to SURVIVE. Therefore, the F-35 is the only one which would ever be relevant. The USAF is well aware it's pointless spending money on planes which it can't fly. That's why they shut down the proposed F-15EX training facility. They DO NOT want it. They want the survivable, infinitely more capable, plane.

[@odonovan]

The EX asks the question, "So, you can see me. What are you going to do about it?" One thing you didn't cover is that the US will likely have F-35s deeper in enemy airspace, designating targets from behind, without their knowledge. EXs and even B-52 "missile boats" will start launching air-to-air missiles from WELL beyond enemy detection range. It's not a good day to be an enemy pilot, for those thinking of taking on the US.

[@Creed109]

17:41 Not sure about the F-22 but I'm pretty sure the F-35 can act as a force multiplier. It can relay the target to allied aircraft like the F-15EX which acts as a missile truck. Or maybe I'm just misunderstood?

[@sir_vix]

No he definitely got that wrong. The data-linked targeting is one of the primary advantages of the F-35. Moreover, it is also able to forward sensor and targeting information to naval and ground fires. This is especially significant for missile defence, as it dramatically expands the radar horizon, the threat identification and response window and the data set for the creation of a targeting solution.

[@Crimethoughtfull]

Thanks, Cappy--you basically answered all the questions I had about "why is this 50yr old jet getting an expensive-as-hell upgrade" and "how do they think a 50yr old jet is going to compete in a 5th Gen stealth-fighter world". The one thing that absolutely floored me was it being MORE expensive than an F-35...that is just absolute madness.

[@chuckdavinci9044]

It's also untrue. That is the total program cost divided by the number of aircraft built, so the price goes down for each unit built.

[@brentvfreiberger]

It is important to note that F15EX is not upgraded old airframes but entirely newly built airframes with added capabilities. As long as it’s weapons systems out range the the hostile systems it doesn’t require stealth. It needs punch and reach.

[@Michael_Archer78]

Also you get more than double the flight time out of the F-15EX airframe before rebuild, so if you divide the cost per hour of flight over its lifetime, it's way cheaper (in addition to Chuck's comment about cost per airframe) And once we start exporting, those costs decrease a lot.

[@Sorain1]

@@brentvfreiberger Which is kind of important, since we have a lot of stressed airframes thanks to long service and it'd be foolish to load those out with top flight equipment. (Plus some things you just need to do at time of construction, like using different materials.)

[@vandal0317]

The F15 is very far from obsolete. It may not be stealth but its aerial Win/loss record is undisputed. It's the most dominant air superiority fighter in history.

[@Rastek19]

Cuz F-15 is best, F-15E is bestest and F-15EX is besterest

[@TamagoHead]

👍Agreed! (You need gooder grammer tho) 👻

[@shawnhoebeck7784]

Are you from Long Island too?

[@mbogucki1]

The plane that Canada should have bought but never even looked at. Change my mind.

[@1nONLY_DRock]

I still think we should have gotten Gripens. F-35s are awesome, but pricey. Being able to operate equipment that's combat effective and cost effective should be a goal.

[@stefthorman8548]

Canada isn't an real military power, they don't need these expensive things, when they have US defending the national security, of NA

[@scottbrooks723]

Agree it's interesting that Boeing bid with the Super Hornet and not the F-15EX perhaps it was the idea that already having the original F18 that a Super one would sell better ?? What we really do with fighters is intercept for the most part but given that we can only afford one type of plane in Canada I suppose the F-35 turned out to be the best all rounder ?

[@scottbrooks723]

@@1nONLY_DRock I doubt we were ever going to buy something non-American for political reasons.

[@1nONLY_DRock]

@@scottbrooks723 there was a potential political. Technology transfers and the potential to build them in Canada.

[@LordHolley]

As long as they can keep responsibly upgrading it, they should always keep the F-15. You don't always need stealth. Sometimes, it's better to announce your presence so that unwanted others will just leave. There's always going to be a need for a basic, multi-purpose jet fighter, and the F-15 has proven to be one of the fastest, most capable designs out there.

[@aerialron]

Great idea and its a great airframe, speed is life and the f15 has plenty of it in addition to all its other high tech gizmos. Its never too little to not have overkill. finally a good decision by the USAF

[@gamm8939]

Speed really isnt life in the 21st century. The F-35 is a far superior air craft, and costs less.

[@robertemberton8190]

Sounds like it has its own special place in our air force which will increase combat capabilities. Thanks for the video!

[@dakinechips]

We just got an Ex in the 142nd wing in portland or, pdx. It's super dope.. a whole new beast up there!

[@darthanianmakhaan2499]

Another great segment Cappy! 😊👍

[@WarriorNoldor]

I hope they produce a single-seat sport version of the F-15EX Eagle 2.

[@jacksonteller1337]

Probably going to be unmanned in the future to draw fire and let the next generation air dominance fighter take out the threats.

[@memelephant]

They proposed the F-15CX, but it did not receive funding so a requirement was added to make the plane be able to fly with only one person in the front, or with two people at once

[@johnn1250]

I believe it will onluy be a 2 seater, one airframe is easier to develop than 2 (single and 2 seater). Since you can easily fly it with just one pilot for one mission, or add a second crew member according to the mission.

[@kilianortmann9979]

The EX is based on the Strike Eagle airframe, there are some changes and reinforcements and it only exists as a twin seater.

[@stupidburp]

The sport version is the one without conformal side tanks. The rear seat has much less impact on performance. The tanks can be added or removed as needed.

[@Masiwalharsh241]

*J-11 Barely evading an AAMRAM* F-15 in Low Earth Orbit: Oh, no! Anyway *Spams out two more*

[@AndreiKucharavy]

Since you've been covering French military tech recently, you might want to give a look at the Rafale - it sits right between F-22 and F-15 EX from the point of view of capabilities and it would be interesting to hear your take on how it compares to them. Especially given that it's the only foreign jet fully interoperable with US carriers and actually allowed to operate off them.

[@chuckdavinci9044]

No it doesn't. It fits between the mig and the mosquito, foreign junk nobody wants to hear about.

[@gregparrott]

I've not heard about the Rafale being interoperable on our carriers. But I I should not be too surprised since France is the only other country with a nuclear powered carrier. It also has a flat deck instead of a ski jump. So, the Charles de Gaulle shares a lot in common with our carriers. I read that the U.S. will share information on the electromagnetic launch system (Presumably on a new French carrier?). Sounds good to me. Hopefully that will soften the botched communications/negotiations with France regarding Australia's switch to nuclear subs.

[@chuckdavinci9044]

@@gregparrott the Italian CSG Cavour was there too, but it has American jets that are obviously designed to operate from American carriers.

[@gregparrott]

@@chuckdavinci9044 I looked up the Cavour. That carrier has a ski jump. Other than the F-35B, I am not aware of any American fighter than can operate on ski jumps. Conversely, while the F-35B can certainly land on a Nimitz or Ford class carrier, it normally wouldn't for at least two reasons. First, only the F-35C variant has the hardened front landing gear needed for a catapult launch. Using VSTOL would interfere with catapult launching. Second, only our smaller carriers have modified decks to handle the extreme heat of the F-35B vectoring most of its thrust straight down during VSTOL launch and land.

[@knoll9812]

@@chuckdavinci9044 I am interested. If it can carry NATO missiles and has good radar and is comparable better than a mig and needs lower maintenance would be a reasonable plane for Griffen.

[@danielwijoyo]

4:58 Rather than that fighting capabilities of the fighter itself, the issue is more concerned about (1)trade relationship between the two countries (related to Indonesian trade surplus with US) & (2)political-military aspect of key technology acquirement before able to purchase F35A & full key component technology inside the joint KFX-IFX (Korean Fighter - Indonesian Fighter) that use several US high- technology. In (2) point, Indonesia is offered to either purchased F16Viper or F15EX. What holdbacks Indonesia to purchase either one of them is the offset program & the aftersales problem (e.g. sanction caatsa risk, maintenance & sparepart availability). That being said in 2023, the already actualized realized plan for Indonesia fighter procurement is in favours towards French from long lobbies & discussion, shown by the purchased 12 Dassault Mirage 2000 that will arrive in Late June 2023 to replace Hawk fighters and 36 Dassault Rafale F4 that will be arrive in 2025/2026 (payment is already confirmed) to replace the old aging F16 and SU30, with additional 12 Rafale F4 still in negoitation (if this negoitation works then Indonesia will be operating 42 active Dassault Rafale F4 in 2035). Until now, there is very little discussion about what happen to F15EX/F16Viper is available to the public thus make most of people believing that F16Viper/F15EX and F35A will be scrapped of from the plan in favors of French's Mirage/Rafale F4 and Super Rafale F5 (next gen.5) in the future.

[@danielwijoyo]

conclusion: F15EX itself is a great and high-tech modern fighters, but the problem isn't that simple because risk factors like economic, politic and aftersales (cattsa sanction risk, sparepart, maintenance, offset program) is holding back Indonesia to pruchased it. On other hand, French generous lobbies and safer aftersales is what enticed and favours Indonesian official.

[@davidsatriowibowo5727]

yeah agree

[@pratamawijaya7025]

​@@danielwijoyo The lobbies with French & Dassault is pretty successful with the already completed payment for Mirage and downpayment of 36 Rafale.❤

[@mikeginting3858]

@@pratamawijaya7025 It's not just the lobbies, in terms of future conflict (if one ever arise) with Singapore or Australia then as the two allies of US then Indonesian can't use its F15EX. Purchasing Rafale & Mirage is a more rational and safe option. Furthermore, it will act as significantly air super detterence to China in south china sea.

[@IESPIUPCLASSOF]

​@@mikeginting3858 yeah caatsa sanction si scary. Look at SU27 and SU30 arsenal in Indonesia military, due to conflict in ukraine, manny of the sparepart and missile will be expired soon with risk can't be re-supplied 😂😂

[@danielbarnes7559]

Another plus in the f15s favor: the f35a's cannot carry the USAF ASAT missile

[@TheMichaelStott]

In order to maintain Air Superiority the need for extended periods of being able to stay in the fight (Take off, fight, come back and reloaded repeat) is the major factor. The F15 has shown it's flight to service process to being still effective, plus it's munitions hauler so it's carrying more into the fight with proven sustained logistical system. Upgrading the F15-EX is a maintain and improve tactic (Taking something that proves works and only improving what needs improvement without diminishing the reason why it's good in the first place) During this time of evaluated tensions, I believe this is both a good strategic move and a more affordable one. Just so long as certain companies and external agencies don't start price gouging on their parts.

[@jibreelkeddo7030]

It kind of makes me sad to think we’d have some sort of “F-22 EX” right now if we didn’t abandon production:/

[@yayhandles]

No doubt, feels really bad knowing that basically every single facility was cannibalized for other projects, particularly the F-35. With that said, considering the way that economies of scale, long-term design establishment, and foresight in system architecture played out for the F-35 program, and I think we came ultimately came out better off in the long-run.

[@ramonleon-isiano8161]

I had always thought and still do, the F15 (in all its versions) is the most beautiful and effective fighter jet of all time. As long as you use it for the purpose it was designed for, it will never fail. This new EX version is like the F15 on steroids. It will be awesome!

[@WarGasm0824]

As far as the conformal fuel tanks go, I think it just depends on where they are placed, if you take a look at the new block three super hornets, the CFT’s actually give it more advantages to transonic flight with a 0 net gain in drag, just because they are placed on the back of the aircraft rather than the intakes like the F-15’s

[@hoghogwild]

The Superhornets are terrible in the Tsonic regime as it is. Combat load them and try to plus Mach. Don't try and race the tankers in a loaded Superhornet. The CFTs on the -15s create extra weapons stations as well, with bigtime drag losses.

[@blkspade23]

Yeah the CFTs are meant to facilitate deep strike missions. You'd never want them in a scenario where getting up close and personal to other fighters is the intent. Strike Eagles get them removed when being tasked with CAP.

[@iakona23]

Yes this plane gets a bad reputation because it is not low observable and therefore it can’t operate in areas with modern S-400 style anti-air missiles. But that is not true, because the F-15EX will be working in tandem with F-35s and stealthy drones and electronic warfare growler jets which will all be sharing sensor data and working in tandem to defeat opposing aircraft and SAM systems.

[@Jakkgusa]

The HARM missile is very useful for situations like this, especially when you're not stealth

[@8000jk]

The F15EX most likely has a formidable electronic countermeasures suite to survive in these environments.

[@williamwchuang]

Eh. It's not like we'll just be flying in like morons. Preplanned fire from cruise missiles and standoff weapons would take out all the missile sites we can see and SEAD/jammers will escort.

[@ex0duzz]

Difference is USA is the aggressor, and will be attacking into prepared defenses with sams and whole continental power while USA has nothing but some tiny bases which can be destroyed by long range missile and carriers which can also be destroyed by long range missile. Think of a Taiwan scenario for instance, or scs. USA will not be using them against Russia or China, it will be suicide ww3. USA Will lose everything including us mainland itself if they actually decide to directly attack Russia or China.

[@vvgamer4568]

The F-15 is becoming the fighter version of the BUFF

[@Tsuchimursu]

the statistics on Nato scrambles just went up a lot after Finland joined, too.... I'm hearing hornets flying over me to and from the border about once a week at minimum.

[@russcarroll3176]

Sustainability and maintenance of RAM coatings could also make a big difference. I would also imagine that some parts of the F-15EX are made with radar absorbent materials to reduce it's signature from the F-15C or D models.

[@artisan002]

I seem to recall mention (not in here, though) that there are going to be composites involved. But, really, those details just aren't going to be particularly public facing. So, we're stuck with a lot of "that would make sense." But, yeah.

[@Xenomorphine]

There's only a limited amount of reduction that can achieve. There was a 'Silent Eagle' concept, not long ago, whcih also attempted that, but it was only stealthy from directly ahead, making it useless for ingress and egree, especially with roving air patrols.

[@Appletank8]

There’s only so much stealth you can add to an F15, seeing as its got those honking big vertical tails and other flat bits that reflect radar easily.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

iirc the Silent Eagle brought the RCS from a couple of big trucks to a single truck. Stealth is the one feature you must bake in. It also means the F35 / F22 is heavily restricted in upgrades. Since you can't have stealth, you go in loud and proud. Show of force and having the weapon to back that up is extremely important to deterrence.

[@artisan002]

@@oohhboy-funhouse Yeah. We _have_ boxed ourselves into a corner with our current approach to stealth. Someone even sold the idea that the F-35 was going to do the A-10's job. Cute, but no. Meanwhile, Russia _claims_ a lot about stealth properties to new missiles they _were_ supposedly developing. But, I'm not expecting great strides in technology from a country that admitted in ~2012 that they still hadn't figured out how to make drones light enough to get off the ground. As to our situation, I'm very fond of bringing the Eagle up to modern spec. Not as stealthy, obviously. But, your comment of loud and proud works well, here. Imagine the stress of seeing a group of radar pings, knowing that you can only see the Eagle IIs, but you know there are likely Raptors and Lightning IIs lurking like sharks in that same group. And they're all communicating together.

[@DamienAllen]

The F15 has been and always will be my absolute favorite fighter plane. Knowing it’s still in the air and will be for sometime makes me smile.

[@brandonlevy8680]

I'm honestly surprised they haven't changed its designation to F/A-15-EX (with its dual focus on ground attack) although if they follow through with tradition, it will lose the 'X' once it becomes a prototype and then becomes a 'Y' and then will lose that once it is in production. But then it becomes an 'E'... which we already have... sigh... I am so confused... The F/A -15-EE?

[@artisan002]

Ouch... LOL! The F/A designation is a one-off because it is technically bullsh*t in relation to the established naming convention we had set up. Someone with more free time (and I'm sure we have many in here) will have to double check this for me; but I _think_ the designation was made by an admiral presenting the plane to the public, basically as he took to the podium. Whatever the actual details were, it was not a legit designation, and one individual's arrogance has kept it in the lexicon. It will likely die with this jet's eventual retirement, as it should be. The only thing worse was when the F-15E turned up in the mid-eighties and people got mad that a "fighter" jet was doing "attack" jet things. Seriously, of all the stupid reasoning to claim something is a bad design is the notion of what F stands for. Maybe I was around way more autistic or full-on special needs people back then than I realized. But, there was a legitimate objection to purpose strictly because "F stands for 'fighter' not 'attack'. Hur hur hur." And as that relates, I'll note that the Eagle has a stall speed of 42-48 mph, while the A-10's is around 136 mph. Even assuming those are unloaded jets, that is a hell of a loitering capability for the Strike Eagle, while the Thunderbolt II is naturally given to more of a gun-and-run-only approach. That also then guarantees a Strike Eagle has a shorter turnaround time for a second pass. So, it can do more to put targets in HARM's way, while having the delirious levels of thrust to get itself out of _harm's_ way. Also, the EX suffix is more an acknowledgement that they're eXtending the evolution and design of the F-15E - the last version contracted for USAF. They aren't using _that_ many bits from back then, because there's so much that's new in this thing, and this is all-new manufacturing rather than retrofitting. Most particular is the fact that the F-15EX is fly-by-wire, while the original Eagles were not. From that era, only the F-16 and F-18 (I refuse to use that stupid prefix) were. Now, heading pedants off at the pass, only the F-15 Advanced series jets (all 3 variants of which are exports only) are fly-by-wire. And those variants are the foundation from which we're getting the F-15EX. And that _is_ to say that the Saudis, Qataris, and Israelis all have newer, more advanced F-15s than _we_ *currently* do, but the EX will match or possibly even exceed them.

[@markthompson8656]

Maybe it will be designated The F/A -15-F

[@jacobbrown1690]

Its called the eagle 2 now

[@jacobbrown1690]

@@artisan002israel just ordered 25 f15ex with an option for 25 more

[@vicdiaz5180]

FYI: I remember when Obama shut down that F-22 program in 2009. It was due to Obama halting the engine production at Pratt&Whitney in east Hartford, Connecticut. I’m a local and I remember this being on the news and hundreds lost their jobs

[@marvelous5038]

it wasn't his fault

[@forzaelite1248]

The Raptor program had a lot of nuance behind its cancellation that the public doesn't consider, like the defense budget limits, the war in Afghanistan, research and development, other more black programs, and the fact that due to the nature of its development and purpose upgrading the Raptor would require a ground-up refresh to benefit from 2020s technology and manufacturing techniques. That's why NGAD exists

[@JB-pu8ik]

@@forzaelite1248 (Allegedly) The Airforce is also looking to move back to the "Century Series" style of fighter development. Smaller incremental improvements build into smaller runs of aircraft rather than all or nothing "paradigm shifts" that have lots of experimental technology and end up decades late and billions over budget. The problem that I see with this plan is the lack of diversity in the defense sector. We dropped from dozens of firms to.... three. So we're not going to see the benefits that competition brings as far as the diversity of thought and the lowered costs.

[@forzaelite1248]

@@JB-pu8ik the experimental technologies crammed in complicates things, but a lot is necessary and it tends to become years late and overbudget when the project oversight is bad. Case in point, the design of something like the LCS might physically actually work as advertised, but when they see the teething issues and costs increase a lot of bad decisions get made out higher up on how best to fix them if at all. The Zumwault and F-35 as I'm aware suffered similar issues; in particular the Zumwault manufacturers had to learn to work with carbon fiber basically on their own and stumble through while also being expected to meet budget and time constraints. Likewise, even if they do go back to century fighter style incremental development, which is basically what they did with the F-35's software, you'd need the right oversight to make it work. Additionally, the concept of cheaper, less capable fighters that can be put out in numbers sort of falls apart in modern times because the cost to build a basic light fighter at all is still relatively high. The Gripen C for example is relatively cheap to build and run at several tens of millions, but it doesn't hold up against the better radar, IR, jamming, networking, payload, range, and stealth of an F-35. More expensive of course, but you get what you pay for when best case scenario it takes 20+ F16s on average to take down a single one. In terms of the lack of diversity, I see what you mean. Granted, the main 3 are really parent to several other companies underneath and fund the development of things from smaller companies, but in the end their name is what's on it and money's in their hands. Other nations are dealing with the same things though, both Russia and China have a handful of major companies to procure from. There is also that, by nature of the complexity and materials involved, the competition factor might not apply because no matter where you go, you're going to be asking for something inherently expensive. It would help to have less corporate greed in the equation though....

[@davidbeattie4294]

In exchange for stealth the F15-EX delivers unsurpassed speed, payload, range, manouverability, mission electronics, is undefeated in air combat and has an insane operational lifespan. If I could only have one type of F/A aircraft, this is it.

[@YahBoiCyril]

It won’t be complete until we also finish our equivalent to the PL-15 missiles. The red eagle’s missiles out range the f-15’s currently, preventing the f-15 from establishing true air superiority as of this moment. The f-15’s radar is almost certainly better, but it won’t be able to leverage that advantage without new missiles.

[@nobody-downunder]

You're a legend cappy! Say nuclear however you want :-D Love your videos mate! Appreciate all the hard work that goes into them.

[@AirForcePenguin44]

the fact that the f15 has been around since the 70s makes it even more og

[@aburetik4866]

takes $150 million to build, and one PL-15 missile to shoot down

[@d.kyrstede3556]

The F- 15 EX Eagle is the best intercepter of all time. It's great at what it was built for.

[@BasicBobby]

Because putting all of your eggs in one basket is a bad idea. The ideas the F-35 is betting in are still largely unproven in battle. So before sending a plane that can’t turn, can’t climb, and can’t conserve and recover energy like f-15, f-16, alone into combat, having some backup is wise. Also, the f-15 is probably a better interceptor, and as a bomber and strike weapon, can carry more and heavier bombs and missiles.

[@jet4tv]

I LOVE IT!!! Its development was paid for by everyone else, highly capable, super FAST! Honestly, Smart move, makes perfect sense! NO BRAINER!!!