Tata Punch.ev First Impressions | MotorInc First S02E07

[@SirKart]

Hello! I don’t think I imagined it - but here’s the link to the image for you to decide for yourselves. Photoshop away! drive.google.com/file/d/1W-aYFqgMO-bvOsbgGw1hU3FApCt1ieTs Let us know what you find!

[@PratikSatpute12]

The logo's painted or printed on a degree or so to the left, you're not imagining it.

[@prishah007]

Well you do have OCD

[@rohanpitre19]

The angle at which the photo is taken will impact the perspective. But at face value, it does look a little tilted to the left.

[@VikasJaink]

Really thanks for this pinned comment, it is tilted to me as well, I too don't know is it because you said it 😅

[@amanraghuvanshi5659]

Tata be like "Tedha hai par mera hai"

[@parijat9405]

Nobody is talking about it but got to praise the editor on MotorInc. Graphics look very readable and cool. Correct highlights in the correct places. Overall a job well done.

[@motorinc]

Passing it on! Thanks a ton for that!

[@suryakathiravan]

Same comment. Awesome idea @motorinc

[@kenadams5227]

I agree, the graphics throughout the experience of the video are amazing!!! Kudos to the production team!!!

[@tushardang9773]

Kudos to that. Such a preety and neat job

[@AkshayM88]

Its amazing how easy it is to watch 1 hour of your review and banter! Keep em coming

[@motorinc]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@UvanSankar]

Never thought I would get addicted to watch two professionals just speaking facts and about their real experience with cars and bike. I have been a fan of Kartikeya since the 2014 Honda City Review at Autocar India. I would love to see both of you discuss about Motorsport especially Formula 1 as I feel there are no authentic shows and podcasts about the same in India. Hope this happens and that if it does, that it might be the start of something big!

[@motorinc]

Hey Uvan! We won't pretend to be experts on subjects we're at best amateur fans 😊

[@abhinandangorka410]

Ok

[@vardanrathi7777]

If you notice how Russian names are (Rusev, Miroslav etc. etc.), Punchev does sound Russian. This explains why the logo is tilted to the "left" 😂

[@motorinc]

Hahaha! Comrade Punchevski!

[@danka1815]

Puncher not punchev

[@vardanrathi7777]

@@danka1815 ?

[@sradhasumandas]

Shumi's summary 10/10. Crisp audio, great detailing with b rolls and all those overlays. I like the jumbled way of topics! kinda keeps me interested (personally).

[@motorinc]

Thanks for your feedback! Glad to know it works!

[@vaibhavrathi8624]

great to see tata taking feedback and making great cars...hope to see them grow

[@motorinc]

Good cars get our vote!

[@gohilurvish]

Chassis: Nexon was test for EV so it carried over with existing frame. Tiago was test for mass market. The new platform (used in Punch) would surely be under development when Nexon EV Max came out (it takes time to build, test and get approvals). So it is less about they fixed mistake but more like "lets first see if people are buying it". I heard this in one of the recent interview from senior Tata person. Battery and Range: For range, Tiago EV in general consumes 130Wh/Km and with EV understood driving this can be 110Wh/KM. It being 24kWh battery the range would be 184KM and 218KM respectively. (In winters it can further come down to 100Wh/KM (240KM) and we have achieved 85Wh/KM (282KM as well)). So with 35kWh battery of Punch the numbers can 150Wh/KM, 125Wh/KM and 100Wh/KM mostly translating to 233KM, 280KM and 350KM. Build: I have Hexa and I still see the build issue in cars of that cost 😅

[@Naps56]

Maybe a move up from Hexa to Nexa is in order?

[@shivamsrivastava6446]

Gohil - 100pc agree

[@motorinc]

Thanks for crunching the numbers!

[@gohilurvish]

@@Naps56 Bought a 5yr old used (1L KM) Hexa just a year back. Not shifting anytime soon. The confidence this car gives while driving is something I don't get in Innova as well (not sure about the Hycross though).

[@gohilurvish]

@@motorinc Ha ha! Reading my comment again and now I feel I wrote a lot. May be my electronics engineer came out while typing 😬

[@sshhaank]

Driving for 15 +days now.. loving it no issues so far.. only first time when I recharged the vehicle, indicator sound and hazard lights sound just disappeared.. I had documents to pick at showroom just then.. the person spoke to some 'specialist' on phone and did 'force reset' not 'factory reset'.. it's all going fine since then which is about 12 days now. I have the empowerment+ LR without sunroof (I had actually booked NR but instead took LR.. happy that I did).. without sunroof it feels and is roomy and comfortable otherwise I felt when is my head going to hit the roof when I test drove the vehicle with sunroof.. also just love the singleish peddle drive (city mode with regen level 2).. seats r comfortable but could have been better with more neck & upper back support..

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing you garage with us SS. Look forward to more updates.

[@karanjadhav4597]

Are you facing gear knob getting stuck issue?

[@sshhaank]

@@karanjadhav4597 no.. i have not faced gear nob stuck issue.. only issue i faced twice was indicator sound disappeared twice.. one time i did force reset and the other time the system software itself restarted

[@karanjadhav4597]

@@sshhaank are those problems fixed now? Still the gear issue was a serious problem because you don't want be stuck in traffic due that. Overall how is the car for daily 120 km travel?

[@sshhaank]

@@karanjadhav4597 i have car for about 1.5 months now, and no issues since 1 month.. car drives amazing.. for 120km, u will hav to keep charging daily i guess since i am getting about 270- 280 km range for full charge in city mode

[@atharvbhosale1574]

I just like the way shumi sir gives his quick reactions 🤩

[@motorinc]

Reflex!

[@knnfkvic]

Most satisfying. feels like sitting with them in this discussion.

[@motorinc]

Glad you could join us!

[@doraemontelugu3629]

@@motorinc I have 8 lakh budget, which is best choice over time , with safety and features

[@30harbakshsingh45]

@@doraemontelugu3629ev or petrol?

[@doraemontelugu3629]

@@30harbakshsingh45 petrol

[@mayankbatra5369]

My Dad is a big fan of the RE Super Meteor 650 for the way it looks, showed your ThisConnect episode to him about it. At first, he saw the length of the episode and was a little hesitant to listen to the entire thing, but once he did listen to it he loved it, the amount of detail you guys presented about the vehicle itself and its experience is just mind blowing to him.

[@motorinc]

Awesome! And hello to your Dad from MotorInc HQ!

[@the_abhijeetpawar]

I listen to you guys when the work kinda gets mundane. And it is an absolute treat. And everytime I watch one of your videos again, I'll notice some more details about the vehicle that I missed the last time. Till now three of my friends/colleagues have bought the bikes I suggested to them, and they thank me everytime we meet. (We work remotely, so we meet like once every 2-4 months...).

[@motorinc]

Oh sweet! Thanks so much for letting us know!

[@AgastyaXV]

Best part about you guys is that youre not biased like most of the other channels unfortunately and you actually have logical reasoning to support your statements over just simple explanation. Would also love you guys to make another video on the ola s1 pro gen 2 as the entirely new suspension/throttle calibration are big enough changes that its worth another review, and if you could focus a bit more on the handling dept that would be great. If you are still in bangalore and would want to do a video on the s1 pro g2 let me know ill be happy to give my scooter to you guys for testing :D

[@motorinc]

Hey Agastya! We’ll take you up on that offer if needed. We are back in Mumbai now. Thanks so much! And wish you great travels!

[@AgastyaXV]

@@motorinc Thank you! Please keep on pumping the content as 99% of the reviews are just pointing the camera and basically reading the spec sheet. Purchased an ev already but still watch the other ev videos as the content is great look forward for more

[@motorinc]

Thanks for letting us know! Which EV is it?

[@AgastyaXV]

@@motorinc ola s1 pro gen 2. By ev generally people get cars in their heads as the first thought but a scooter is a vehicle nonetheless. Was talking about the bajaj chetak review you guys did a few days ago. My father does want to go with a electric car too but given that the technology is immature and will evolve rapidly because it hasnt been researched upon kept me holding on for longer. + extra price/lack of fast chargers/charging infra in general is again is just restricting a bit more

[@sajjad271973]

love the way technically you guys explain and have conversation in studio. i have been following you guys from the very early years.. and this MotorInc has all together a different presentation. Kudos to you guys

[@motorinc]

Thank you for being with us Sajjad!

[@5bhuvan]

Ohh !! It's raining videos on motorinc. Kudos to you folks on keeping up the high standards

[@motorinc]

Thanks a ton!

[@lramakr77]

Your content quality is very addictive. Kudos! I have been following and watching your reels and conv like this one. Pretty interesting way to present. Thanks for Standing out!

[@advitiyan]

Another point about having the charging point where the fuel filler cap would usually go is that when parked, the car now takes up extra room on the side which is not the case when the charger is mounted up front, extra space that can be taken up by two wheelers for people with small garages.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for the perspective!

[@ameyaspadhye]

I think we used to have the same conversation about whether I should pay ₹2L extra for diesel over petrol and the answer would be if your daily driving is more, you would recover the extra money paid for the diesel engine in the long run. The same applies here. If your daily driving is 50-100 km, you can recover the extra premium of an EV quickly. The only caveat is that EV has the range issue that diesel engines never had. So from an economical POV, EV is suitable if mostly you have a daily driving of 50-100km in the city and occasional road trips to nearby picnic/tourist spots. IMO, EVs make much more sense for cab drivers because they can easily do about 200 km daily in the city, charge the passengers the same amount as other ICE cabs, and recover the invested money quickly. For others, you are investing the extra money more for the experience and less for savings.

[@motorinc]

Spot on Ameya! But we think the daily use has to be closer to 100 than 50.

[@ameyaspadhye]

Agreed@@motorinc

[@meetankush]

@@motorinc That does it, then, doesn't it? If someone drives 30,000km in two years, there is the cost recovered right there - in two years! And after that, it's a steep downward curve on every km travelled - ₹3 per km (worst case scenario, commercial charging, some states/outlets charging more for stations, best case would be ₹2/km) as compared to ₹4.66 per km (best case scenario of 25km/L and assuming oil price at ₹100/L, ₹10,000 in annual maintenance). What's crucial is to weigh whether people are willing to take 1 hour breaks every 3 hours to charge the battery for longer trips. My dad drives a Tata Punch AMT Creative and he gets 13km/L in city and 22-24km/L on highways. However, he drives less than 8,000km in a year now and EV isn't really a cost effective solution from there. One can make the case for added comfort in even the base Punch EV, but that base model severely limits my father's drive to the hills on weekends.

[@geetarthneo]

I have a Harrier, and I like the feature of drive modes changing up to the higher mode when accelerating harder. Also, in Guwahati, the Eco drive mode works good because the traffic is that slow.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing! What kind of efficiency do you get?

[@atuls4831]

Harrier returns superb fuel economy. I have a manual, it return 15 in city in Delhi and 20 on the highway

[@hirans2230]

I'm using Altroz for last 3.5 years, the service where not that great in initial 2 years. Then came Luxon Tata the new sales and service partner in Kerala, I'm honestly saying they actually stepped up the game , very professional approach . Owner of Luxon is Nippon who was famous for Nippon Toyota as well as Incheon kia.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for letting us know @hirans2230!

[@praveenraghavan657]

I have been a subscriber for a while now, but this is my first comment here. The content you guys are putting out is just awesome. I have been watching you guys individually for years now, I am 35 and an auto enthusiast so yeah. But never thought your combo would work so well. Awesome job guys, keep it coming!!

[@motorinc]

Heya Praveen! Glad you could join the conversation! Means a lot. Thank you.

[@matrixdukenukem000]

In one of your previous videos I had mentioned how on Oct 6th 2023, I had given my Harrier XZ (the OG first gen) to the Lakshmi Tata OMR (chennai) to repair a rat bite. When you mentioned "service" I had to give you an update. Short version spoiler. I still don't have my car back. Long version, after pongal holidays they did give me the car and you know how after a heart surgery a human just looks 5 years older and other organs are affected, my car feels 10 year old even though it's 4.5 year old. They changed couple of wiring harness and airbag module and somehow managed to add these issues: 1. Steerling alignment is off by 10-15 degrees (yes they delivered it like this). I don't know how the delivery driver drove it like that to my office. 2. Battery drains overnight 3. Airbag indication still persists intermittently 4. AC works but can't change temperature and many other software errors and issues in drive mode, traction control, hill hold, etc. On top of that, they lost my original RC which was in dashboard storage (I know, stupid of me to keep the OG RC there). Somehow they've also my battery cover but the bolts are there in the glove compartment. At this point, I guess any customer would go to consumer court but with everything going on in my life I just don't have the time and energy to go through that so I got the regional customer care head involved who put me in touch with the GM of this dealership who is supposed to solve all issues. I know you can't do it but if you could, I would want you to ask the TATA leadership "should I buy a TATA EV?". Because their engineers aren't trained to handle the electrical components of lesser sophisticated cars that they have. I mean why spend so much on R&D to build a chasis that's comparable to RR Phantom when in one repair their service engineers can turn a fully functioning car with couple of wiring issuees into a completely non drivable car? As I am writing this comment, I am wating for the GM who is on my case to give me an update with another excuse of why he can't deliver today because I am supposed to get it today.

[@motorinc]

Oh My God! So sorry to hear that! And thank you for keeping us posted.

[@HemakumarJanyavula]

I drive my Ignis daily to office and I become enthusiastic driver most of the times. I then listen to your reviews to calm me down and I reach office in a good mood. Thank you.

[@motorinc]

Yay for the Ignis and its owner!

[@sriramhm1147]

They answered both the questions I had in the video. Thanks @motorinc Let me give people an interesting story about this vehicle. I booked this vehicle and after booking it, i requested for a test drive in two showrooms in bangalore. I got the worst experience even Presales. They told me the car is not launched and it was just a rumor. Please note: they said this after i finished booking the EV. I had booked it in Salem. Had to cancel the booking because of the bad way tata sales people treated me.

[@motorinc]

Oh no! Would love to know what the questions were. Also - do you still have the booking?

[@sriramhm1147]

​​@@motorinc Despite Cancelling the booking I still don't have a confirmation on when I would get the refund. I feel they are still trying to convince me. The questions I had was - 1. Would be practical to have it as the first and only car? 2. How would the service be? I'm only gonna use the car outside the city and would probably ride 50k kms in 8-10 years. Mileage is not an issue at all, But range is. The service issue on the other hand is that, if I had a petrol car and the service centre people are irresponsible, I can go to any mechanic and get it fixed in a petrol vehicle. I can't go to anyone for an EV. I have to rely on Tata. That reliability is not something they have earned today. Also software issues scare me more. The bad service experience comes from my brother's Tigor EV. If anyone from tata reads this and thinks they can improve his experience, reach out to me and I'll connect you with him. Had charge stations brick the vehicle. Tata does send RSA? But it takes time. If this happens in any remote areas, at odd time, though the chances are very narrow, you'll feel the stress. They really need to have better people in dealerships. (This all night just be my pessimism for anyone reading. But if I'm spending 15 lacs on a car, I'm not supposed to in fear and anxiety. Just not my cup of tea. I put my peace of mind over anything else)

[@scienceByV]

@@sriramhm1147sorry, man

[@ashokk2225]

Iam 40 mins into listening, what a conversation, how can someone talk so nicely on such a simple topic.. I could feel that iam part of their discussion. Also it looks like a conversation between a employee who did all the research but speaks humble and the manager who did nothing but still asks right question😊

[@motorinc]

Haha! Thanks Ashok!

[@Prasoon_ingle]

U guys should start a series with guests for sat down discussion & have a free flowing conversation like u guys do normally. Guest suggestion ather ceo, ola ceo and mahindra ceo .

[@motorinc]

Thanks again Abhinav!

[@Naps56]

Actually a CEO who drives/rides what he/she sells would be better. Even if that's a (remote) possibility, the best would be a conversation with an actual buyer-cum-user - especially after the honeymoon phase of new car ownership is over.

[@suryateja2k11]

42:40 Even I felt it that way! Its slightly tilted. May be because that one is a moving part. What I'm actually able to observe is that may be that whole part is not alligned to the rest of the body. You can see in the left part of that logo panel. Its mis alligned. I felt similar issues even with the new Nexon ICE version as well.

[@motorinc]

Oh really! We got to check the Nexon out too now!

[@TheVanillaMotorcyclist]

I am one of those guys who listens to this podcast on Spotify while doing other stuff. Like on last Sunday, I was cleaning and polishing my motorcycle which got a bit dirty. I put on two podcasts from motorinc first back to back, and started doing my thing. By the time I was done it was already two hours up, my motorcycle was all cleaned polished and lubed and looked like this thing just rolled out of a showroom, yet during this entire process I was neither tired nor bored like everything I did was on autopilot mode. So as far as any improvements are considered, in my pov this podcasts lies strictly within "it ain't broken don't fix it region." So please keep up the good work, because looks like my vehicle's maintenance routine somewhat depends on it.😜

[@motorinc]

TVM! What a great way to have total automotive immersion! Glad we have a role in it and we plan to not interrupt your workflow!

[@matrixdukenukem000]

Another great review and analysis. I am no car effition.. efficiona.. effitio ... car knowledge person and it amazes me how a person can sit in a car and notice things about brake regen and suspension and chasis. On top of that the high quality production and language is very viewer friendly and makes me want to trust your review.

[@motorinc]

Hullo MDN! Glad to have you with us!

[@Prasoon_ingle]

My father is really inspired by Shumi's salt & pepper look. Now he is also trying to grow beard like him .

[@motorinc]

Hello to him too from MotorInc HQ!!

[@karthikkarunakaranmenon6785]

I loved the discussion... It was fun and punchy 😂 Great to see the experts all through these years ever since the days of seeing them..or only chance was to see them through auto magazines ❤

[@motorinc]

Glad to have you with us here too Karthik!

[@abhinavjamwalx]

True motor journalism 👍

[@motorinc]

🙏🏾

[@rahulathsr]

at 37:33 discussing about the slow response with the eco mode, it could also be a perfect use case for the bumper-to-bumper traffic situations where a super dulled throttle is convenient. I have this experience with my TVS Icube as well, while I'm in traffic, the sport mode feels very snachy and so i quickly move to the eco mode where it becomes much more manageable...

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing that Rahul!

[@chandramymail]

On price, an apples to apples comparison would be on road price as for the electric versions there is lower taxation. With that considered, the gap would be much narrower.

[@motorinc]

Yes, it would. But the point still holds - the base variants don’t justify the price as well as the higher variants.

[@sshhaank]

Some states no tax on ev but in some ev or ice, flat rate

[@isotropicantenna]

The regen worked because the battery might not actually be full. They could have limited the usable battery capacity and maintained some buffer capacity. The buffer can also compensate for range loss over time, so that the end user doesn’t notice the range loss.

[@motorinc]

We're checking on this, IA!

[@kshitijsabale7534]

0:01 what's the singer saying ?

[@motorinc]

You say!

[@Abhishek5076]

I just love this channel - knowledge, real world experience, logical explanation and lots of fun conversation that makes me crack up so well. It's a complete show not just a vehicle review. Amazing!

[@motorinc]

Wow, thank you!

[@z9647]

Audio only is perfect. Infact It's so immersive I sometimes forget what what I was doing in the first place😅

[@adityat5905]

5 lac more means from ICE to EV ; one has to drive 1 lac kms to even start break even(ing) the extra cost paid for the punch EV

[@nomanCyclewala]

shit doesnt make sense. you can literally buy another punch with that money 😂

[@adityat5905]

@@nomanCyclewala Exactly

[@tanmayhoshing1]

Check the difference between BHP.

[@Ar.JoelKJ]

Drivability. Better than any 15 lakh cars

[@AdityaKumar-qk9xo]

Automatic? Power? None of that matters?

[@ankush495]

According to Gagan Chowdry and Vikas from ICN The chassis length can be increased for cars like Safari and Harrier! Please check it, so I feel next line of ev’s from Tata should have this same platform, which is a Win!

[@motorinc]

Nice! We'll ask Kartik to check it out.

[@maybepraveen]

The city of pubs 😂 A laugh within the first 15 secs, nice 👍

[@motorinc]

Quickest one yet!

[@samarth.trivedi]

I don't know about punch having a punch but the sophistication of this podcast definitely has a punch. "You can't see the logo once you are in the car" I laughed hard. Effort being put right from graphics to the important pointers being textualized. Whoever has designed the entire setup deserves a praise.

[@motorinc]

Thank you so much Samarth! This encouragement means so much to all of us at MotorInc!

[@MandeepSingh-nm2qj]

Very nuanced, useful conversation. I was interested in this vehicle as soon as i came to know about it. I would rate it the best in India right now for the city car role. Automatic, powerful, safe, high seating, narrow footprint, robust and absorbent suspension, the suspension is specifically made to be 'gunned' on the worst of roads. Add to that the electric vehicle benefits, instant power and torque, and the super low running cost, and you have a winner, which is unbeatable right now. It's a mini-tank, which is fast and exciting to drive too, with almost nil running cost!

[@romaxoxoo]

Doing pushups for every like this comment gets......😢

[@udaysingh9_11]

No you ain't. Stop embarrassing yourself for likes

[@catastrophicyapping]

No you won't

[@atharvbhosale1574]

Saitama banoge ka? 😂

[@hplaptop3056]

You just got some view , brother , i just viewed you channel , posting video of random girls to get views , 🤣🤣

[@gigachad9163]

Spammer

[@madhurgundecha]

It was fun to watch. Having watched other videos which seem to be completely biased and not thorough, this was a refreshing experience. Kudos you to you guys!

[@motorinc]

Thank you for taking time to write in and let us know what you thought! Means a lot!

[@motorinc]

Well for what it's worth, we haven't changed a thing.

[@bobvjp1202]

Hey guys you are awsome job but plz be quick in making content, you are loosing alot being late on every product.

[@kshitijpandey6514]

Their quality is far superior to the competition So it's fine if they are late The quality makes up for it

[@motorinc]

Thanks for waiting!

[@priyanks91]

What a style of car reviews ! Bada maza aaya ! I'm looking forward to my Punch EV that arrives next week

[@motorinc]

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing that with us!

[@kannanharigovind]

Man..shumi's jokes are poor and cringey. Plus it just disrupts kartikeya's flow

[@kshitijpandey6514]

They are good man Probably not your taste Also Kartikeya enjoys it ig

[@motorinc]

It’s a casual chat. Two guys hanging out.

[@kannanharigovind]

@@motorinc yeah sure. But cringe is cringe infront of a camera.

[@ArunSapaare]

Just in one line our beloved Bengaluru went from the *City of gardens* to the *City of PUBS!* 😶‍🌫

[@rabinarayanjena1726]

Seriously man you guys took your own sweet time to come up with the review. Was waiting eagerly

[@motorinc]

Thanks so much for waiting man! Means a lot! As always - feedback would be awesome.

[@dr.ranadhishrajan2797]

I just love everything you guys talk about cars and motorcycles in this channel. Eagerly waiting for Thisconnect season 2.

[@motorinc]

Thank you Dr.RR!

[@iKanishkz]

Two vehicles are very close to my heart and are absolutely absolutely underrated. I would love to see good quality review of both of them on this channel. So please make a video on The Tata Hexa and The Mahindra Mojo.

[@prishah007]

I love this method of reviewing like it is a conversation ! Also safer when you are not driving and reviewing it !

[@motorinc]

Glad you liked it!

[@beingamit]

What a pro conversation. A treat of the year !

[@motorinc]

Thanks Amit!

[@aniruddhapisharody7035]

This was a kickass review, Kudos to the team, I did check the picture, and it tilted towards the left for sure. about the podcast on other channels does not work for me cause I like to see you guys on the big screen it is either the laptop or the TV. (You miss the small funny expressions without the video)

[@motorinc]

Aniruddha! Missed you! Glad you enjoyed the watch! How are things? Kartikeya's very relieved he's not OCD 🤣

[@subraaaanshu]

The video Shumi mentioned about hiding booze in the frunk, it showed up on my IG a few days ago and I was equally as taken aback, more at the fact that they made that video AT THE OFFICIAL LAUNCH EVENT! 8:28

[@motorinc]

Kartik was searching for that!

[@miths0072]

Lol was really funny hearing you both speak about tata and its legacy issues with launch events and finishing of its cars. Here’s my experience.. I am from Pune, took delivery of a Tata Tiago EV on the 23rd Dec 2023. I had done the PDI (amateur level) a week prior & everything looked fine. On 23rd suddenly got a call from the dealership that the car is ready and if I could take delivery same day. Excited, I went ahead and confirmed. Went to the dealership at around 2:30 to complete formalities while the car was being brought from the yard around 10kms out. Did the formalities and since the car had not arrived yet, I confirmed pickup for evening. In the evening delivery time, my wife noticed a couple of dents in the rear which they said they’ll fix the next day and although a bummer, I didn’t mind it much as it could happen to anyone anytime. After delivery, rode for a couple of kms to realise that the AC doesn’t work. Took it back to the dealership only to be assured that it’ll be fixed the next day. Big bummer but no option to live with it so went straight to a temple nearby for pooja. Got done with that and when i tried unlocking the car with keyless entry, it won’t work. It simply won’t unlock itself. Finally after getting a crash course on how to use the flip key on the remote (if u haven’t tried it, trust me it needs a crash course and some serious force) it finally opened and we went back home. 24th-31st the car was at the garage they call “EV breakdown center”. When they delivered it back on the 31st they assured everything had been sorted. Later found out that the AC would only work for the first 10 mins of running and then shutdown for good. Went back to the garage a couple of weeks later only to finally get it fixed after 5 more days. I’d like to state this clearly here, its a bloody good car for my purpose. But what horrible purchase experience. I mean how could the PDI team not have known the keyless entry doesn’t work once the remote is out of range for a while? How could the PDI team not know that the AC doesn’t work? Just pure carelessness completely spoiling the whole experience. And now however good the car be in the coming years, never ever a TATA again! Shouldn’t be thinking like that but it was nice to hear you guys speak about it… good to know its not just me and my luck with TATA 😅

[@motorinc]

Hooboy! Now just imagine if those issues hadn’t happened. What an experience Tata would stand for.

[@hilorecords654]

I absolutely love watching these videos finished this during my college class

[@motorinc]

So many mixed emotions here!

[@akshayiyer8897]

Schumi's head turns with that " you will never improve" looks are my favourites

[@motorinc]

🤣

[@drmaheshkumar5687]

Eagerly waiting for Shumi Sir's GIF images like the look he gives at 51:55 !Totally worth it wen your trying to show you agree with someones point of view 🤔🤔🤔

[@motorinc]

🤣

[@Subhr0]

I do not know about anyone else, but I have to force myself to pause, think on what these pundits have talked about, and then savour the understanding and the nuance that Karthikeya brings in, and the genuine manner of Shubhabrata's reactions. This is truly my steaming hot cup of coffee, best savoured in bursts. Strangely however at no points later do I think that it was an episodic experience for me, rather I see it as a 4 hour long experience with experts. Also the content makes me content at all times.

[@motorinc]

Hahaha! He who is Content is King! And - thank you SG for your time and attention. Makes our world go around!

[@div1119]

Shumi has the exact charisma that I want in my old age.

[@rajatverma360]

14:30 Good Point!

[@motorinc]

Thanks!

[@preetmohinderbenipal5208]

Great work guys, like tata sets a bechmark for evs, you set a benchmark for reviews!

[@motorinc]

Thanks for the encouragement!

[@TomJoseph1991]

wonderful presentation. love it! stick with this format.

[@motorinc]

Thank you for pointing us!

[@Siman_Shrestha07]

Good morning @Motorinc 😎😎, was just waiting to see you guys...

[@motorinc]

Good to see you too SS!

[@amolghodke]

I love Shumi's love for cars, even though I'm car lover more thank bikes.

[@motorinc]

He LOVES them! 😄

[@diddlysquidly_4814]

As a 20+ year old student and a petrol head, i listen to them while im writing my records. Heck i love their content so much, i revisit podcasts from thisconnect as well as first

[@motorinc]

Hullo DS! Thanks a ton for writing in! Love hearing from your side of the screen.

[@YogeshKumar-qp4hj]

Good to hear what TATA are doing and kudos for them🙌. Buying a EV in a country like India is an hard commitment due to our demographic be it the road network or charging infrastructure. But more than all it depends on which part of the country you are in. Remote places like hill stations/ghats, coastal belt, desert acquired land, snow/Himalayas and high altitude locations are the main concerns we need to look into as most or even all the EV manufactures only target tier 1,2 cities. That's where ICE cars have improved so well over years and one should only wait to buy EV in these regions with proper infrastructure and service and a promise by a brand.

[@motorinc]

Agreed, EV decision depends on plug point access.

[@prabhatanandsingh0009]

I have to say this , You both are my only loved distraction during these days of my neet preparation.

[@motorinc]

Oh boy! All the best! Sorry to distract you?

[@Metatron_M]

Test drove this a couple days ago for my sister's daily commuting vehicle. My biggest problem with the car is the lack of physical buttons. Almost everything is touch now. It's terrible. When I pointed it out, the guy said, "Sir, everything is voice controlled now, here's how." His voice command failed 4/4 times. It was embarrassing tbh. I had this weird conversation at the very beginning of the test-the guy was explaining variants and that there's a long range variant and there's a medium range. I was surprised and quickly said "wow 3 battery sizes!" It was awkward as he explained the smaller battery is called the medium. Well done TATA. The vehicle I drove was Tata Punch Empowered+ LR S.

[@motorinc]

The touch controls are annoying! They aren’t responsive enough.

[@tushardang9773]

I ve got mine delivered. Been couple of days... Probably the first in Delhi. Punch in my third tata car. And it's very evolved

[@prajakt0789]

Real world range?

[@tushardang9773]

290 so far. Something beyond 310 is preety doable if you could drive under 100kw/km . For me it's still 118 KW/km

[@prajakt0789]

@@tushardang9773I get 250 on the tiago ev. Not much of a difference.

[@motorinc]

Congratulations!

[@prajakt0789]

@@tushardang9773 at what speeds do you drive generally. Is the aerodynamics of punch playing downer. What is it exactly. A 35 kwh battery should provide atleast 330 kms easily considering it doesn't take much long to adapt to ev driving.

[@satyamdewedi5582]

Lovely sir 👌 👏 was eagerly waiting ✋️

[@motorinc]

Thanks Satyam!

[@karanarora6153]

I have a first gen tata Tigor Diesel (2018). The biggest problem with their dealer network is that they were never ready for so much volume+so many big cars (needs large workshops). I had once given in my car for some minor bodywork and tail lamp replacement (for which insurance replacement was approved). The car sat in their lot untouched for almost 40 days. Then they took another 14 days to actually finish the job only when I went to Tata Twitter and the HQ Escalated my issue to the service center. Love my car as a product, good ride quality, decent dynamics, always feels solid, great great great sound system (beats a base model 2023 GLE sound system, trust me have tested). But my next car cannot be a tata, too much pain in aftersales. Don't have this much time, or money, or mindspace. Need some peace of mind.

[@motorinc]

Ufff. We feel you!

[@josysebastian2607]

40,000 kms over a period of time where petrol prices are shooting for stars. "Cost of the ICE cars doesn't matter the cost of maintaining it will be", says Elon Musk when asked about Tata Nano!!

[@motorinc]

Oh he has a take on the Nano? Didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing.

[@sarangtambe3585]

Are there any plans for a Harrier/Safari ev? I feel it would make a lot of sense as these cars don’t have much competition from the segment above(Fortuner is much more expensive and Meridian is all but irrelevant) Great video btw

[@motorinc]

Yes, Tata does intend to have the Harrier EV out later this year, the Safari EV should follow next year

[@Amuzic_Earth]

Actually Battery density and power frigures have gone up significantly over the years, so much so, that we are seeing a massive shift from NMC and other Nickel based cells to LFP based cell worldwide, which are supposed to be less power/energy dense. And yet, these new breed of LFP cells and the new battery pack architecture with a combination of electricals/electronics and software is delivering similar range/performance as the nickel based battery cells. 2023 was the first year when total LFP battery cells usage crossed the 50% mark, and it's only gonna go up. The plus is, LFP cells have 2-3 times longer life, are much less fire prone, not explosive, the only downside is they lose more range in subzero/near zero climate, but are better in withstanding heated conditions, so really a plus in all front in Indian driving condition.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for the deep dive! Super helpful!

[@varun_wadekar]

Where are the mics ? the sound clearity is great but there is no visible attachment

[@motorinc]

Glad to know you can’t spot them! 😁

[@aashaykadu3390]

I listened to all "This Connect" episodes during workout. So yes audio only helps.

[@motorinc]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@akhilchalil1585]

Car manufacturers realized that if their cars can drive through our Bengaluru 40% roads, they can go anywhere and will be able to impress content creators.

[@motorinc]

🤣

[@aadityaacharya4]

Loved the video!! Witty casual talk is just awesome 😅

[@motorinc]

Shumi brings life to it!

[@kenadams5227]

​@@motorinche absolutely does. I'll be honest, I love Kartikeya just as much, but Shumi's personality just elevated the video's experience. Love this duo and their banter!

[@abhinavtirkey]

I listen to MotorInc podcast while driving back home from work.

[@motorinc]

How long is the commute? And where? Sorry, just curious. That way it’ll be like we’re on the drive with you.

[@abhinavtirkey]

@@motorinc Anywhere between 1½ to 3 hours (when I visit sites in neighbouring districts of Gorakhpur like Sant Kabir Nagar, Basti, Siddharth Nagar and Ambedkar Nagar).

[@UtsavSomani-x3j]

Any time line on when the detailed drive review will be out?

[@jakerkz]

Shubratha's punches are excellent

[@ranankursingh]

Just putting out. A fan of your content ❤ Keep up.

[@motorinc]

Thank you so much for your time!

[@ManuMohan268]

Great content folks 37:17 On eco mode being dull, a YT channel did video on Ather warp mode. This person rode a 100%to almost empty with warp mode enabled but kept the speed between 40-50. He got ~110 km. The conclusion is, the eco mode is could be useless!! 😅. I wonder is this the case for all EVs.

[@motorinc]

Interesting! Much patience will be required for finding out!

[@eesitpradhan7242]

I think there's a logical thinking behind why Tata decided not to include spare wheel as standard. Most people are going to drive an EV in cities only, where puncture is rare if you keep your tyre in good shape. And even if you got one you can repair it with puncture kit or simply use a tyre inflator and drive it to nearest shop easily. And even if you got a puncture beyond repair you can still call a mechanic in cities easily. But you have to have a spare one when going for a tour outside city.

[@motorinc]

Fair enough!

[@yashpratapsingh7769]

This studio has very cold lighting which makes it harsh to watch in low light or in night Some warm elements will make the frame eye pleasing and comfortable

[@motorinc]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@MrDebranjandutta]

I'm expecting the delivery of my punch ev adventure LR in the next couple of days, this podcast definitely helped to tilt my purchase decision towards it. Thanks guys.

[@motorinc]

Glad to hear that @MrDebranjandutta. Thank you for sharing!

[@MrDebranjandutta]

@@motorinc since you guys appreciated the heads-up here's a follow-up. Despite the ugliest panel gaps that would screw up the wind tunnel metrics, best darned automotive decision I ever took. After 25 years of driving manuals, both petrol and diesels, cracked the driving code for this beauty. Regen 3 for choc-o-block traffic (1st gear) to no Regen being the equivalent of 5th gear. It's driving nirvana. BTW Tata Motors has removed the puncture repair toolkit needed to repair flats incl ancillaries like scissor jack, spanner etc from June chassis onwards. I suspect it's because of clueless customers placing the jack wrong causing the battery to dent or worse pierce, escalating the puncture into a severe problem. However, just might be for weight saving or cost cutting, as a team-bhp image doing the rounds suggests. In any case it means if my car did suffer a flat, I would be at the mercy of Tata Motors' tow-away service. Would be interesting to know if the Curvv EV comes with a spare/puncture toolkit

[@MrDebranjandutta]

@@motorinc Tata has started removing all puncture repair kits and ancillary equipment (jack, spanner) and just provides the tow handle for this car and probably for other models. Means their Road assistance program has better be good.

[@Ray5467]

Good video. U guys r underrated.

[@motorinc]

Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team!

[@mrketankrishnakantgodiawal553]

Would have been more attractive if they had given connecting tail lights in the rear like the new nexon ev

[@MukundanRangarajan]

Was waiting for the whole video for schumi tilt gesture when karthikeya was talking about the infotainment. Thank god it came when the logo was discussed 😂🙏🏻

[@motorinc]

🤣

[@_.aviralsingh._]

These guys are so amazing man! This is a fab review!!!!!

[@motorinc]

Thanks AS!

[@sharathnair4788]

Did i miss explanation on the tyres and alloys?

[@KshitijMadduri]

Been waiting for this! A must watch before we hit the showrooms. It's difficult to contain the excitement everytime a motorinc first drops! XD.

[@motorinc]

Please let us know how it goes in the showrooms.

[@DivineManJ]

Great Video. Lenthy but I watched it till the end❤. Apart from the new Chasis, is there any Volts difference between Nexon and Punch?

[@motorinc]

This is also a high voltage architecture 300+.

[@PraveenKumar-vj7xv]

What I feel 5 lac upfront cost is higher if we compare current battery price from china. In india this approximately 12000 per kilowatt so for 25 kw cost of battery should be approximately 3 lac. Futhermore, their is no engine and other extra assembly and the price of motor I think should be lower than a engine. So this 3 lac extra justify the real cost in India for present scenario. Correct if i am wrong

[@cryptonianbond]

Cleaning a pile of Utensils was much more fun while listening to this. Thanks for this podcast. 💗

[@motorinc]

Oh man! Thanks for sharing that! ❤️

[@Dheeeeraj]

55:10 While sad but true.. I wanna work and be at a level where i can afford to have an ICE Car or Bike with me and fill it up with petrol for my joyrides 50 years into the future. Sure commuting will change. I mean our family is already looking at EVs as a means to travel/commute everyday. The boring stuff. But i dont wanna lose the Yamahas and the Swifts which i use for joyrides on a sunday!

[@motorinc]

Great choice for joyrides!