Taylor Talbot-Carter VS Abrin Schaad - 2022 APA 8-Ball Classic - Purple Tier

[@joshp7477]

The American Poolplayers Association should be ashamed of itself for allowing a player with a Fargo Rating of 770 to be in an amateur competition! Abrin Shaad is currently ranked 11th in the entire United States on the Fargo List. Like seriously, wtf. Update your rules!

[@cakins1986]

A 110 point Fargo Rate difference between these guys. Taylor is a good "A" player and Abrin is a legitimate pro, skill-wise. Not a fair matchup.

[@nineballjunky]

This is SO very wrong. A 755 Fargo competing in an amateur event. Being a mid-level 700 player must be so hard. You're not good enough to really win a lot of money at the pro level, but you're almost too good to play at the amateur level. 🫤🤷

[@NineballChris]

Gotta love APA. 7 is the highest and each state has different skill levels of 7's. So you will see matches like this.

[@DavidHernandez-or1dp]

Anybody can beat anybody...

[@jamest3552]

@@DavidHernandez-or1dp ...and nobody can beat nobody

[@butadreamwithinadream]

This guy is literally top 20 in the 🇺🇸 like what the actual fuck.

[@cakins1986]

He's got a higher Fargo than guys who play in the Mosconi Cup 😂

[@j.r.rosenbaugh3637]

Top 4 fargo in USA....lmao

[@highhitproductions]

“Shoutout to all my sponsors” that in itself should be a red flag. We have 7s in Maryland that are great shots but not 700+ Fargo rate 7s I’ll tell you that. I know 3 semi pros that shoot APA at around 630ish Fargo rates and 90% won’t show up to league nights because they feel it’s unfair.

[@chuckn.1367]

In other words, those 7's have integrity.

[@highhitproductions]

@@chuckn.1367 absolutely

[@traviswilson4752]

Dude has worked hard for his skills if people are upset because they can’t win them they better improve he works a full time job and he still makes time for pool

[@cakins1986]

@@traviswilson4752 Mike Dechaine, Donny Mills, and Dennis Hatch work full-time too and you don't see them playing APA

[@traviswilson4752]

@@cakins1986 he’s been doing some professional tournaments as well the man loves pool if he played apa in my area I wouldn’t care how good he is or bad he would beat me I’m not salty like that and what it sounds like you must be salty otherwise you wouldn’t have commented on my response

[@frankzese]

An US Amateur Champion >700 fargo, i feel ashamed

[@mohamedsuleman5792]

Get the refrigerator boyyy 😂

[@marthaz]

Does anybody know if the ladies 8 ball championship is being live streamed and where I can see it? Trying to watch my old teammates!

[@jamest3552]

I was told they don't show women as much because they're so slow and with the missing the games take forever.

[@marthaz]

@@jamest3552 kind of late 🤣 I found the stream and saw my friends who happened to place in the top 10. Sometimes being less aggressive wins games 🥳

[@jamest3552]

@@marthaz Blame utube for tming.

[@YT-DAD-BASS-ASSASSIN]

I knew when I seen the sponsors all over his shirt and the other guy in a casual hoody I knew what was up,pro against a good amateur

[@shortymack340]

This dude was def sandbagging 😆

[@alexorozco303]

He’s not sandbagging. He’s a known pro from Illinois. Currently 766

[@johncapital8376]

Inquire Orange County Convention Center in Orlando Florida. They could most likely host a 9 foot table event place is huge

[@johncapital8376]

Keep the finals in Vegas :)

[@justus5588]

I would be embarrassed to play this amateur event as sponsored player. Maybe one day he will play competitive pool. Until then, see you next year ABE!!!!!!!!

[@chriskilgoe6121]

Skill level 7🤣😂🤣😂 US amateur open champion...with an APA ranking

[@jrgunz27]

This kind of occurrence is embarrassing to those of us who are actively putting in efforts to improve Pool’s image and reputation

[@chuckn.1367]

I love the carpet in the Westgate! Lol.

[@supermingsu]

Taylor is literally playing Efren Reyes, 760 fargo.

[@tombohara9105]

How does the rack (game 2) have 3 lows on corners?

[@kevinbowers512]

APA doesn't have the rule where there must be 2 of one ball set and one of the others on the 3rd corner. That's a BCA/ACS rule.

[@gregoryhelberg6391]

Professional players are allowed to compete on an amateur level now.

[@lienguye82]

I guess if he lost hes an amateur

[@shanesmj1]

@@lienguye82 ...SPOILER.... Not sure I understand the point you are making. Abrin Schaad is a 755 fargo and fargo says over 700 is professional. (Abrin Won...) The best players in my home town are wicked awesome players and they aren't above 700 on their fargo.... of course the professional beat the amateur...

[@xnoitulos]

Being 700 just means you really know how to shoot, doesn't make you a pro. Now 800.....

[@dai_shann7958]

@@xnoitulos Guess you don't realize there are like 25 people in the world above 800... 755 is close to top 150... if you don't think that is pro level, I'm guessing you don't play pool

[@nineballjunky]

Question: How many 750-level players win tournaments at the professional level. Answer: NONE 700-770 Fargo players are caught between levels. They're too good to play in amateur events, but not good enough to make serious money at the pro level.

[@21khronic]

I'd like to see Abe get a shot at the Mosconi Team, could use some new blood

[@definevanitynails4743]

Dear Apa... Number 12 in the USA verse Amateur league players? W.T.F?????????? You don't take enough money from Amateurs to host a pro event ?

[@nwterry]

Why does the apa not use these tournaments to give people a chance to play on professional level equipment? The balls don't even rack tight on the tables this year.

[@dai_shann7958]

The APA doesn't care enough to not let pros play in their amateur tournaments, why would they care about something like that?

[@nwterry]

@@dai_shann7958 if your upset about who you're playing that's on you. If I'm not playing against the best players what's the point?

[@dai_shann7958]

@@nwterry if your goal was to play against the "best players", you wouldn't be playing in an amateur league. If you want "pro" level equipment, go play in the pro circuit.

[@nwterry]

@@dai_shann7958 Abrin is an amateur by definition. If you don't want to play against better players you probably should only play for fun and stay out of any sort of competitive environment. I don't get the gatekeeping. I watched Abrin get knocked out of the 9 ball tournament by someone nearly 100 points lower than him. Just because someone plays at a higher level doesn't make them unbeatable.

[@dai_shann7958]

@@nwterry I take it you don't play pool... at least not competitively if so. If you can't understand why a 755 fargo rated player, near top 100 in the world and currently top 20 in the entire USA, shouldn't be playing in an amateur tournament, I can't help you. You're either his friend or being intentionally dense. It's not about not wanting to play good players, it's about having fair and equitable competition. Your cherry picking of 1 loss in a 9 ball tournament doesn't demonstrate anything other than someone having a fluke win or him having a terrible fluke loss.

[@that1guy186]

This Is RIDICULOUS. Abrin Schaad Is A 755 Fargo Rating. 700 And Above Is Considered A Pro. Let These Real AMATEURS Play APA Pool. WHY KEEP LETTING THESES PRO PLAYERS PLAY IN APA TOURNAMENTS? ITS NOT FAIR AT ALL!!!!!!

[@shanesmj1]

It was even worse when a player was allowed to win the US Amateur Championship multiple years in a row... (The dude was NOT an amateur.)

[@that1guy186]

@@shanesmj1 Yup Brian Parks And Ernesto

[@shanesmj1]

For reference, Tyler Styer played in the Mosconi Cup with a 758 fargo and Chris Reinhold played with a 742.... APA needs to do better! (Have a Skill level 7 and a super 7 so at least everyone knows they are playing in an open tournament with pros.)

[@georgemerchan4760]

While I agree with the idea of keeping pro level players out of amateur events, the only issue with implementing a Fargo cap is that it would encourage sandbagging. Like that isn't enough of a problem already lol

[@dai_shann7958]

@@georgemerchan4760 may encourage some sandbagging but I think you can agree that 755 is a bit much. The APA "7" skill level spans 200+ points. When I was first a 7, I was a 500 fargo.

[@j.r.rosenbaugh3637]

Oh this is a PRO playing in an amateur tournament....lmao there should of been more controversy over this guy being eligible

[@michaelvasquez9408]

After 700 Fargo rating you should be banned in the interview he talked about it casually after he won too like “what am I gonna buy now?”

[@jamest3552]

In his defense, he was asked what he was going to buy.

[@cosmicraysshotsintothelight]

First miss was not nerves. He was trying to hold the cue ball up for the next shot and did not compensate for you English squirt.

[@seniorrider9337]

Poor camera work allowing covering up the table with advertisements! Sure would have enjoyed watching this with no advertisements or score covering the table.

[@marlinfisher11]

"How are we supposed to determine when someone is a pro?" Hmmmm if only there were some sort of world wide rating system that gives you an established rating after a minimum of 200 games. Man if only a sort of rating system existed you could maybe say like 700 could be a cut off for APA.

[@brozifcbr7178]

This kid is going to win this title many more times!

[@that1guy186]

Yea If They Keep Letting Pros Play Against Amateurs

[@brozifcbr7178]

@@that1guy186 he’ll be no different than Brian Parks then. He’s good enough to play as a pro, but has a full time job and doesn’t make enough money from playing pool to qualify him as a pro. That’s their reasoning.

[@that1guy186]

@@brozifcbr7178 Professional Pool Players Shouldn’t Be Competing In Amateur Events…….

[@cakins1986]

@@brozifcbr7178 Abrin is actually higher rated in Fargo than Brian Parks. He's ranked higher than U.S. Open champion John Schmidt lol.

[@aousruke1834]

A losing pro does not make an amateur champion.

[@tyarnold4088]

At 10:00 he slopped a ball in and kept shooting. Is this slop rules?

[@andrewturner1714]

welcome to apa

[@tyarnold4088]

@@andrewturner1714 oh my God. Ok.

[@melvinmcclamroch305]

Same rules as pro tournaments.

[@tyarnold4088]

@Melvin McClamroch no. Most 8 ball tournaments are call ball and pocket in 8 ball. I have played in over 100 open tournaments with pros.

[@melvinmcclamroch305]

@@tyarnold4088 sorry but no. Watch a couple of professional 8 ball games on KZbin. Not a shot called except the 8 ball. It would be disrespect to make a pro call obvious shots on the table, heck even your average apa player. Stupid bar room rules. 🙄

[@michaelconners2805]

Addressing the seeding numbers is not well, useful. Playing well or poorly makes the fluid transaction you're seeing.

[@jamest3552]

APA payouts are better than VNEA. Should have APA champ play VNEA champ.

[@daltoncotter6119]

Apa is a money pit. Pick and choosers. They will bash on 600's but let 755's play. QUIT WHILE YOU CAN

[@uriahotten3895]

8:51 thats why you don't use the 8 ball break, its garbage and runs the risk of loosing the cue ball...literally

[@uski1977]

Think you guys are overrating this guy a bit. I mean he plays strong but 770? Is that a fact? I don’t see it. It’s not hard to run out on a bar box.

[@daltoncotter6119]

Calling all pros to apa. What a joke apa is

[@trungdtptit]

the only thing not checking out my profile does is stop your curiosity.

[@kerrmoney]

Casey is smoking hot!!!! 🥵......is she single!?.????

[@tomsorlie4197]

Sorry Abrin. You should't play in amateur pool. No pros APA.

[@brandon1263]

The woman commentator doesn't know what the hell she's talking about

[@MrBtiehes1]

😂😂😂 the woman commentator is in the pool hall of fame

[@johnsample9640]

Difference between pro and amateur is how long it takes. Schaad is way slow . Annoying to watch actually. He gets down on shot, gets up, circles table, back down, up, down, different shot, back to first. The shots were obvious

[@j.r.rosenbaugh3637]

What an idiot comment.....pace of play has nothing to do with ability.....seen slow players be good...and suck.