What Is Art? - Debate At Turner Contemporary

[@SAMBUT]

Hints in this discussion: 1) can you still create something new? 2) your commitment has to come across. Reasons why objects SELL? - If they happen to - this trouble an EXPRESSION of VALUE. Art? What else. Creating ART? Fulfilling purpose - being happy - and a combination of it ALL.

[@duncanweller1]

A better question is What are the traditional social functions of art? Basically what does art do for people? And what are the functions of modern art or popular arts? They are very different. These people are talking about a slim part of the art world - that which is contained by galleries. You can be a professional artist without ever showing your work in a gallery.

[@standauphin1592]

this is not good, I would not recommend watching it. 10 minutes of introducing the panel, bad sound throughout, too many people, uninsightful answers and a rude host. overall a very accurate representation of everything wrong with the contemporary art world.

[@socialdistance.forever4744]

I agree with your comment.

[@upendasana7857]

Its panel discussion such as this that really make me want to run from most "artistic environments".shit the boredom of it all.

[@sarahjeffriesart]

If you enjoyed this debate you may also find another discussion on ArtTop10 which discusses the engagement with painting in light of and participatory art and Claire Bishop's Artificial Hells book - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH3Rn5dsgMqjepY

[@cookiemonster3147]

This was very interesting. Thank you.

[@plumjam]

Let me guess. There was no broad agreement? :)

[@utubecomment21]

Art has been around since near the dawn of time. If you haven't worked out what it is yet, then its time for a career change!

[@nerdorkable]

But it isn't something that can be easily defined or grasped. If art was understood in the same way it was one hundred years ago, it would be a useless medium, stuck in the historical past. Art can both comment on and be shaped by its surroundings; it's forever changing and that's something that needs to be understood. Goodness, if these leading curators or art historians decided what art is or has always been then they would need a career change - have you ever thought about how much thought, selectivity and understanding goes into individual exhibitions to make it work for its contemporary audience? Art has been around for an infinite amount of time, yes, but it's a form that needs to constantly be readdressed and reinvigorated and therefore cannot be pinned down to a simple, universal definition.

[@isaiakrozell2409]

@@nerdorkable I agree with everything you said except the statement, "Art has been around for an infinite amount of time." That's a fact claim. If you stated that as an opinion I wouldn't of cared. But you don't know that. I mean it's possible but there's no way to test infinitcy as we know so far. Being mortal kinda makes it hard. If you meant that life itself is art, and in that sense has always been around, that would make more sense. I gotta say, of all the different forms of art, contemporary has to be the most plain, boring, insufferable "style" of art there is.

[@danielkelly6316]

art as a practice came relatively late during are evolution :) art is a word of Latin origin derived from the word Ars, the word means craft :)

[@brokenrulerlabs]

Make these panels smaller in the future. Its silly to rush each panelist through parts of their responses. 😢

[@sarahjeffriesart]

A great debate - I thought the most interesting subjects started to come up halfway through. Many thanks to the Turner Contemporary Team for making this available to the wider public. www.sarahjeffries.co.uk

[@petermacaulay1316]

Let’s let’s create a mystery

[@BizRasam]

if anything can be art then all is null.

[@lenmatt1]

Art is everything and everything is art. The difference is the context in which that thing is perceived.

[@imag3reader]

going to be doing myself an art tonite

[@ilcasuelyilca6520]

É o que Da Vinci disse `a séculos.

[@loltheworld]

Whew, that moderator likes to be in CONTROL

[@MaceLupo]

They will never solve this.

[@randywayne3910]

Art is the selective recreation of reality according to the artists metaphysical value judgments. ~Ayn Rand

[@APerson4889-g5f]

or "making stuff"

[@peterjones6715]

hello . when you can do something , rather than collectively question what you don`t understand , the answer is obviously self explanetary . academic elite intelligence is a limited nurtured thought process , while the self awakening conscious trance scribes quiet naturally . with regards

[@reisbob7786]

Peter Jones quite naturally?

[@JadenJahci]

its a vehicle.

[@Malcolm701]

Art is a selection of visual, auditry or physical elements. The selection could be the work of an 'artist' or they may occur naturally. Anything is art, therefore everything is art. A lot of pretentious people waffle on about 'art'.

[@lenmatt1]

Art is usually considered from the human perspective, we must have an input to create art. Nature in its purest form is different as there is no human input. However it was created by God and thus I consider it as sovreign art.☺

[@KirillaMihai]

Listened to this panel for 19 minutes. Got bored. They don't add anything interesting that most of us don't know already. Right from the start a conflict needs to happen and debate over a specific subject to have a healthy discussion and keep people engaged. The fact that there are so many artists makes the discussions less confronting and domestic. It leads to nothing as most of the panel discussions I have listened to, about contemporary art which actually reflects the core problem of today's art. WE always ask questions and never get a concrete answer since self expression and subjectivity is the backbone of the majority of the arts today., blurring the standards of value, healthy thinking and intellectual worth. I don't see any tackling here just prolonging the existence of some elitist childish goblin that feeds of the values and concepts of giants from the past. Always bringing up Warhol and dancing around the idea that anything goes.

[@ARCTERYXSWEATSHOP]

GOOGLE JONATHAN MEESE DICTATORSHIP OF ART FOR A DEFINITION OF ART PLEBS

[@burnellking]

art is relative. everything is art. the best art is made when you have nothing. excess kills art, just like it kills people.

[@ellistheisland]

my pov: art is something created that touches your "soul". this includes nature.

[@xMyPointlessChannelx]

...what?

[@ivandate9972]

what is a good art ??.... art that can sold high !

[@sarathkrishnan6166]

if we got the correct definition its the end of the art.........thats why through out the ages it becomes so much complicated and interesting...

[@ivandate9972]

yup you are right ... why i dont think of that ..

[@jasonbuhagiar2997]

As a working artist, this was absolutely rubbish. Alot of inconsequential amateur questions and answers. The TC has really become an amateur nonsense unfortunate

[@garymulsp]

Nature is not art.

[@sonnycorbi4316]

The problem, perhaps, is you attempt to separate yourself from being "Nature" or part or "Nature" - In your mind the bird is Nature and you're not - (there is one Life that manifests many forms) - Art is the very essence of Nature! - Art primordially is journalism - our "Natural" way of writing/communicating - Art is the essence of BEING - Organized/man-made religion, is not NATURE -

[@lenmatt1]

There is one part of nature that is art, we ourselves. We become artists and we perform art (performing arts).

[@danp5585]

Gary Mulcahy neither is being closed minded. No rules

[@celestialteapot3310]

l'm a piss artist

[@lenmatt1]

Art is everything and everything is art. The difference is the context in which that thing is perceived.

[@lenmatt1]

For example a toilet bowl can be viewed as functional but if it is looked at from a design perspective then it becomes art.