"Teachers Don't Get the Money" - Vivek on Fixing the Education Crisis & Teachers Who Are Underpaid

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[@MichaelJones-xz8mm]

My daughter left teaching, because the administration would not support her in the classroom concerning unruly children. She loved teaching and was not as concerned about the salary, although it was low.

[@saraperez4870]

My story is the same. My husband is a police officer and told me to quit because of safety concerns. I was so sad to leave but our mental health matters too.

[@breadgarlichouse2265]

The very institution we entrust with shaping our nation's future & success-education-is tragically undermined by underpaying the professionals who dedicate their lives to it

[@chrisalley9718]

My wife works her tail off in a public school system, always has excellent results from her kids and she makes no more than the teachers that simply coast and fail their kids. It's crazy.

[@langleyj8199]

My wife a teacher, burned out. 52 and quitting. Reason is main kids believe they can do and say what they want and parents take no responsibility for their child. Pay is terrible.

[@greenninjataxi]

Parents don’t parent.

[@E_vanG3374]

Because both parents must work to pay the bills and try to get somewhere in life FOR their kids, they don't have time nor do they have the energy to parent. Salaries do not match the cost of living.

[@scrapykat3028]

This is our biggest issue!

[@SandyMartin-b5p]

Then they shouldn't have children. Period ​@@E_vanG3374

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

We need specialized schools for trade jobs like they have in my country. Massonry, plumbing,engineering etc...

[@dertythegrower]

Mike Rowe does do that...

[@russontherocks5575]

I don’t know where you Live and how poor the area is but that has been a thing god years … all schools where I’m From offer trade school for students who wanna take that route , it’s called V school, vocational school for people who want trades and don’t see themselves attending a university

[@justtim682]

Ya and they are adding more every year ​@@russontherocks5575

[@DarkPassenger]

We do have those schools dude...

[@papaswires4241]

I had this when I went to school but I can attest that they do not where I am in California.

[@r.hastings5546]

Three things: First, teachers aren’t unionized against students they’re unionized against their administrators. Second, as much as it sounds good to incentivize teachers by paying good teachers more, that solution doesn’t address the fact that every student comes to you with different abilities. You’re not starting with a level playing field. Thirdly, how you will measure student growth? How will you ensure that each class of the same subject is filled with students of similar abilities? Wouldn’t this type of system pit teachers against each other as you vie for the “good” students? How do you account for disruptive student behavior? How would this system account for parent involvement? Some kids come from families where parents are monitoring homework while other students are on their own. I would love to hear someone deep dive on how this shift in our education system would actually work.

[@cwahoo1]

Recently retired from teaching. One of the biggest problems we have is that the teachers that tell kids the truth about their scholarship are hounded by parents and administrators. It can cost you your job. Instead you are supposed to not make waves and tell everyone they are doing fine. Many schools have gone to giving kids a 50% as the lowest grade even if nothing is turned in. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully I’m out. I miss the kids but not the hypocrisy.

[@shoop4040]

My wife has been a teacher for 15 years, and it's astonishing how hard she works, for little pay and often using her own money for supplies. In contrast, her administrators earn significantly more while contributing very little. Teachers main issue is how can we make a difference when we are trying to educate 35 to 40 kids in one classroom and every kid is at a different level specially with kids that have special needs in the same class with students that have a higher Iq. Every single human walking this earth has been taught something by a teacher ..

[@gil7459]

Not to mention vastly different parent involvement.

[@gardenia77]

Kudos to your wife. I am a speech-language pathologist and I have witnessed exactly what you are saying. Teachers are under-supported and under paid. I pulled my son in 6th to homeschool because there was no way the public school could accommodate his ADHD-Inattentive. There simply aren't enough bodies. Teachers really devote so much to their students and it has been sad to see them less and less supported.

[@mrsmobs]

Same. As an English teacher, I was told, “You’re not science, math, engineering, or technology, so you don’t count. If you want books for your classes, you’ll have to buy them.” I was working solely to provide books for the school, essentially.

[@mr.f8420]

Yes! I hear ya! In the same boat. $600 tax credit..😂 we spend prob 2000/year for just basic stuff. Not to mention she has a copy machine allowance. Like give me a break!

[@naturallykillingtime]

Must suck working 9 months out of the year. Imagine going to college and getting a degree in a field you KNOW pays sh1t, then cry about how little your pay is. Kids can't even read and write after graduating, tell me why we should pay teachers more?

[@belyndasonger7574]

How about demand more of the parents. If the parents dont care the kids dont care. Teachers have no backup.

[@MrStoutfool]

Exactly!!!

[@billiejocowell3242]

My husband and I send our daughter to a private Christian school, we drive used cars and live in a small apartment. I tell everyone who asks why do you do it? I would live in a cardboard box before I put my daughter in a public school system.

[@codylane2734]

I remember doing the presidential fitness test when I was in the 2nd or 3rd grade

[@jonpicojones4032]

Thank you to all educators out there in general. A pillar of society.

[@ktrimble8111]

The problem with merit based pay for teachers lies with the complete inability to be able to ensure equity amongst rosters. You just flat out can't teach some people. Having someone's money be determined by an adolescent's choices is wild.

[@MGW1974]

The problem is the current system isn't working. Merit based will be better and 1 bad kid won't throw off the success metrics that the other kids will provide, assuming said teacher isn't the problem.

[@ktrimble8111]

@@MGW1974 sir or mam you def haven’t taught before. Sometimes you just dont have the roster. Its like telling Phil Jackson to take a middle school basketball team and beat Team USA in a 7 game series. Or like having Belichick coach a superbowl game against the eagles with a roster full of cheerleaders. It dnt matter who coach Team USA and The Eagles coming away with the W. Schools have to account for learning disabilities, language barriers, electives, and all types of accommodations. Id be pissed if I got all the kids with disabilities and language barriers while my neighbor got all the kids without accommodations. Way easier to get that money on a merit based system. Also since we talking about it. Private schools getting government funding is wild because they do not have to except students with accommodations/behavior issues. Lets not even get started with the drug issues.

[@ronn68]

Yes. The focus also becomes testing which then produces the issue of kids being taught to do well on tests vs learning to learn.

[@rudals1281]

We have public school board members bringing politics into the education system! They teach stupid idiot idiologies rather than focusing on math, reading, writing, science, and etc. Mind-boggling.

[@rossstevens6165]

I remember having good teachers who grabbed my attention, and I got good grades and looked forward to going to those classes. I also remember a few teachers who showed a lot of boring films and gave a lot of reading assignments for class time. The only interaction we had during class was disciplinary issues and taking attendance. I did poorly in those classes.

[@SonjaShindler]

Teachers Union should never have happened. This has done nothing for teachers or students!

[@ronjohnson9032]

It's done a lot for the union.

[@btanirose581]

Teacher's pay and supplies for teachers and kids should be #1. In Oklahoma, they started the lottery to help schools, that is why having a lottery and passed. But they didn't help schools. Look at the lotteries saying they'll help schools, too.

[@centurione6489]

In K12 the tools that a good teacher needs are BLACKBOARD and CHALK. The rest is needed to pre-digest the knowledge for dumb and lazy students.

[@danieldougherty5144]

Said the same lie in Texas. Now they want to bring in casinos into Texas. People will fall for the lies and it’ll create so much worse poverty and crime in areas

[@btanirose581]

@centurione6489 tools, correct, it's nice to have better tools

[@bryonseilerXauBry0716]

Did the lottery help?? I live in Tulsa. I'm uninformed on the subject. All I hear is stuff about crooked politicians stealing the money.

[@btanirose581]

@bryonseilerXauBry0716 they didn't help the schools, they used the money to rebuild downtown OKC, And they've stopped doing a lot of the nice things they were doing downtown as well. So I don't know where the money is going now.

[@FernandoJr27]

Merit pay = favoritism pay, because there is no way a supervisor, administrator will be bias. The best “favorite” teacher will always get the best class. And the hard working teacher will get the biggest, most problematic class, because this teacher doesn’t “fit” in with the status quo’s.

[@salvadoralanizjr3736]

You speaking facts and nothing but the truth. Public schools are very political. The public school system to broken and beyond repair.

[@michaelbildires3470]

The two pieces of research that advances student learning is having a seasoned teacher and a smaller class size!

[@charleswhitford2026]

I'm not hearing that. Teachers also are off all summer.

[@RejoiceAlways10]

Small town Mom here. These “teachers” that have been entering the education system lately are horrible teachers and humans. My kids prefer the seasoned teachers who’ve been there since I was in school. For the last 3-4 yrs My last two children have come home almost daily saying their teachers are yelling at the class throughout the day and not teaching them to prepare them For the following year. Ever since Covid and Chromebook’s they have struggled in English and math. 1+1=2 is not longer that simple to figure out. There’s 10 step before getting to the answer. It’s ridiculous- not showing work backwards and forwards with the right answer is an automatic ❌

[@johnsmith-zd5he]

Hey Vivek, put a good word in for technicians and mechanics! The amount of things and skills we need to have an the money in tools compared to what we get paid is rediculous! Im not sure who is going to step up and fix everything once us older guys are out!?!

[@janisrands8990]

Oregon is last in students learning, (reading and math skills) and highest in cost per student..I remember visiting my sons first grade class and there was chaos in the classroom. Next week, there was a retired teacher substitute for that class, and it was smooth running and quiet. This was so interesting. We had a fantastic principle for a handfull of years who really set the standard for the school, then she moved on....what a mess. I think it starts at the top.....no one would run a ship like they do now.

[@JD-ft2lr]

I listened to first 25 minutes of this show. I like the notion of letting states govern independant from fed. EXCEPT when they run everything down the toilet as they have and continue to do here in Washington. It sucks! Theres no end in sight!

[@jacobbath956]

Many states use the funds for school not on schools. NH is shady as hell with federal funding for the schools. 😢

[@sonofzip]

Lack of pay and respect is the reason I quit!

[@deborahparks1296]

Merit based and parent involvement. Have parents contribute time or money to child's school. All the students in our school are wonderful and want to learn. Except for those whose parents are not involved with child's learning.

[@EAStCOaMAn]

Viveks gotta go. He showed his colors. This is his redemption tour and his team is pumping him on all con-inc media.

[@kemberleyadcox3963]

Teachers should be hired based on meritocracy. The unions & politicians get it all, and it should go to the teachers...

[@AEVMU]

Get rid of tenure and fire the bad teachers. Tenure is totall BS and the unions are preventing that from happening. My mom taught 4th grade for 26 years. The unions are part of the problem becuase only the absolute worst teachers are ever fired snd its usually for gross misconduct. All the bad ones, who should not be teaching, once they have tenure, they are not fired. Further, teachers work long hours during the school year as grading papers takes many hours per day and many teachers work summer school. Per hour, they do not make much at all (lower middle class) and that's after accounting for non paid time off.

[@angelwhisper239]

Don’t forget about RN’s who work in hospitals. Holidays, weekends and 12 hour shifts. New graduates are leaving in droves.

[@carrie618]

In "urban" areas, classes need to be small, like 8-10 students per class.

[@JustSteve5421]

The administrators get paid way more than the teachers now. Which is ridiculous. It's important to have good administrative people but there are to many now and they get paid far more then they should.

[@mrsmobs]

My retirement after 16 years of teaching: $39k. Fix it. Please.

[@daniellebill7478]

Oh my goodness no freaking way!!!! Oh WOW. Much respect Mrs Mobs.

[@funnykids572]

I was under the impression that all the Administrators make all the money the teachers get pennies on the dollars compared to administrators

[@wishIwuzskiing]

The massive growth in home schooling has several motivations pushing which include the desire for better results and proficiency, but also to keep young kids in particular away from heavy handed social engineering by teachers. So much time is spent on cultural manipulation that has to be explained and unraveled at home and even worse, pushes kids to be at odds with the values taught at home. That is just as big an issue as reading at grade level.

[@mimiohnine]

We live in a moderately populated county. We have three school systems and each one has superintendent. The superintendents get paid six figure salaries and teachers are least compensated. Make it make sense! We should consolidate the schools and have one superintendent and less business people in the offices.

[@rocntcb]

How about a new model for education. Instead the tech is there for homeschooling. The school concept hasn't really changed in 200 years.

[@minuteman-t9w]

In Ohio. Whatever Vivek wants to do will be great! I want him in Ohio, but I want him to be where he will make a crater that will be studied for centuries.

[@jw6160]

My wife is a 4th grade teacher, about to get her masters. She made less last year (2025) than I did as a brand new police officer in 2015 (50K). I know I am biased, but that is a monumental problem with our society. She should be making more than what I make with what she has to do every day.

[@12GAFL]

My wife has been teaching in Texas for 22 years. She makes $59k annually, leaves to work at 6am to prepare and gets home every night at 7pm or later. We live 8 min from her school. On top of the daily she is assigned to committees mandatory for all teachers to take part, tutoring 2 days a week after school, school socials, parent teacher conferences, etc. She is grading papers over the weekend and doing progress reports and report cards that take days to complete. Then on top she is spending her own money to buy supplies for the kids and her classroom, needs to pay for a school lunch or take her lunch. She clocks in 70-80 hours a week consistently. Oh, and they’re summer vacation they start 2 weeks before school starts needing to take Summative and forced to listen to someone that never taught from Austin how to teach. Or some other BS training they pay some idiot to force on them. Oh or they are forced to do some stupid dance act for each other. These are adults being treated like kids

[@03Grunt-arrino]

I teach 8th grade ELA and think “merit-based” bonuses would be fantastic. Let the test scores speak for themselves. Don’t dock pay if a teacher gets a group that doesn’t care, but incentivize doing better and really trying to reach the students.

[@tommythompson7941]

Teachers work 12 hours a day. Up to 80 hours per week. Pay them!

[@maryperrysmith5815]

No they do not. 12 hours a day. 6 am to 6 pm??? Nope. Your crazy

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

12 hours? Ok. What grade.

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

They voted for all what they didn't get!!!

[@rhondaivory3009]

Its true teachers should receive top pay. They’re teaching our next leaders. They’re not paid well. And we pass these kids whether they passed or not. That’s about money. We went to private school and public school. When I went to public school I was a year ahead of my class mates. Private school was harder.

[@gardenia77]

Shawn, I know you will most likely never read this comment, but it doesn't hurt to try. I am a single mother to an amazing 16 year old son who is in need of a strong, principled male figure in his life. Someone he could shadow in the work place, learn to build, repair, etc. He is a great kid. While he does not have a strong father figure in his life, I have raised him away from the troubled home life I was raised in. He has been raised with conservative values. I homeschool him and have him on a college prep path academically. I live in Tennessee, but I would move if the right opportunity arose. I will do anything for my son, but I am not a man. If you know of any resources or people that not the typical nationally-based organizations, I would be eternally indebted and grateful.

[@SandyMartin-b5p]

Not a lot of people would suggest this because of religion, but Church would be a good place to find a program that you're looking for. Just do your due diligence in vetting any person who is communicating with your son. I took my teenage daughter, and she absolutely loved it. Try to find one that is upbeat and devoted to teenagers.

[@n3r0wolfe]

theres a lot of pork, absolutely, but teachers are not underpaid.. i do taxes for a living and ive done a ton of teachers taxes and the only ones who get paid trash are either brand new, semi-retired (half time or less), and substitutes .. all the rest made good or excellent money

[@Greytide1]

End public education. Give it to the private sector. Keep state accreditation if it's a concern. A broader spectrum of quality and cost would be available. This would improve education for students. It would improve opportunities for teachers. Furthermore, having children is a personal choice. The cost of educating them shouldn't be a public responsibility.

[@James_Edward59]

I would love for this to happen, my lady is a SPED teacher with 2 masters and it is a really tough job. She spends a lot of time and money of her own for her students because she loves her job and students. We just had our first born and the maternity leave here in CA for teachers is pathetic. She is guaranteed a specific amount of weeks that she can take off however she is only paid for a lesser amount of weeks and that is after she is forced to use any of her sick time or pto for those lesser weeks and then what is remaining, I believe she gets 60% of her pay which isn’t horrible but isn’t good at all. The really horrible part is that after the lesser paid maternity time is used, by law they are allowed to have another like 3-4 weeks off as I mentioned above but they must pay their own substitutes which is like $250 a day while only making 60% of their pay, it’s insane. Some of them also pay for maternity leave insurance which helps with part of the extra 40% but it’s a small part and you are paying into that monthly every paycheck.

[@aeromtb2468]

where does all the money go? every year we are asked and begged for more money for schools

[@melissafisher4598]

I like the idea of merit based pay, but at the same time, there absolutely must be some stricter rules put in place for student behavior. I work with a population of students where parents have neglected to raise their kids, and the teachers are expected to take up the slack. As a teacher, a great deal of my time in class was spent redirecting students to the simplest of instructions. Like, don’t talk while the teacher is talking. It’s so simple yet the amount of time spent leaves little time to learn anything meaningful and we often don’t have the backing of the parents. My hope is that someone sees this and really takes this into consideration because it is a huge problem. Also, in mini school districts, the only way to get real significant raises is if you go back to school and get more education and the trade-off is not comfortable in any way shape or form.

[@Thepinatamma]

I had a high school teacher that 100 percent didn't give up on me. I would be dead or in prison if it wasn't for him. Named my son after him.

[@ezmadarlington942]

Merit based pay… no one gives teachers merit of any kind

[@gardenia77]

I love Vivek, but the piece of information he is missing or left out about universal school choice and homeschool is that homeschoolers do not want to be subject to the state's approval of their curriculum, educational plan, etc He mentioned Tennessee and how we have school choice now, but it doesn't include homeschool, but that is because homeschoolers in the know do not want government strings attached to their homeschooling. I live in Tennessee and homeschool my son. The only homeschoolers who wanted the money for homeschooling were families that haven't come from the old school homeschool community. They are families that have been thrown into homeschooling rather than deeply loving it and they don't tend to care if the government has a au in how they homeschool. They are the homeschooling families that often choose online all in one programs and they are not passionately invested in keeping homeschool free from government control. I would have liked Vivek to have spoken about this aspect. Sure, we could all use the extra money, but most of us are willing to sacrifice the extra money in order to retain our freedom in homeschooling. I am a single mom and I homeschool 16 year old son. I am personally very academically focused and I have my son on a college prep path. I am able to give my son a superior education than he would receive in our local public schools. Mostly, because I choose to have my son focus on some things they do not in the public school such as full-length texts from the Great Books, deep History, etc. But also, my son has ADHD-Inattentive and the schools are not equipped to accommodate this mid- level, discreet type of learning issue. He literally just dazes in lectures and in public school he can miss huge chunks of information. At home, I am able to scaffold him and teach him the strategies to overcome this. In his public school, the accommodations they offered were to remove work from him or do it for him. I refuse to have my son enabled like that. At home, he can take rigorous courses while working on strategies to help him compensate for these issues. I have the same type of ADHD and I made it through grad school, mostly as a single mom, so I know he can do it. I am a speech-language pathologist and I worked in the schools, so I know that RTI does not work either. My son is college-bound and his current goal is to become a physical therapist. He will graduate in a couple of years and as a single mom, I am very curious how the college landscape will look then. I am terrified of the toxic left wing agenda in our universities and I am hoping there will be more conservative universities available.

[@BCTravelfamilyExperience]

100 right not just in the United States that even here in Canada I was born in Canada and all my friends that are immigrants and my family members that are immigrants they know more about the Canadian history they sing the Canadian anthem more accurately it's almost embarrassing

[@ElevatedMindSet-420]

Oklahoma let the lottery come to the state. But the teacher where suppose to be paid out of the lottery money.

[@mr.f8420]

His comment on homeschooling being superior is not true. Statistically they come into public school far behind their peers. My wife is an educator and kids that come into the public school system test far below academically and are way behind socially. Parents cannot be teachers to their kids. A teacher is a professional figure to that child, not a parent, which is a way different role.

[@Mogiewankenobi]

It’s amazing how someone has answers who never taught at a public school and how art’s importance was diminished in this interview. So creative and critical thinking and thinking outside the box (which I teach) isn’t important for our kids? But calculus is?? I never took calculus and still managed to raise a family and do well for myself. Sad.

[@gardenia77]

We also need to overhaul the curriculum. More focus on the foundations if reading, writing, grammar, and Math in the youngerv grades rather than diluting those to fit in so many subjects. Get kids off if screens all day. Return to taking notes by hand and cursive in the younger grades. Give kifs real books to read, not an e-book. Smaller class sizes. A return to the Great Books, with a mix of modern and international literature. We need a return to more basic, but solid methods of teaching things like grammar: repetitiin, repetition, repetition. Lots of practice. My son attended public school until 6th grade, and his grammar lessons, following the common core standards were so scattered. Firstly, grammar wasn't taught in sequential order, starting with the party's of soeech, moving on to sentence parts, etc. Secondly, there was very little reoetition. Instead of daily revitations to practice grammar, the grammar lessons were taught and then once that box was checked, they wouldn't see grammar again for a week or two, with little review of each concept. It drove me nuts. But, we also need to return teacher education to a model that produces masters in each subject level, rather than a focus on DEI and classtoom management. My teachers were masters in their content area. I know teachers now who learn the content the summer before they teach it because their university programs focused on facilitating a curriculum rather than being the master themselves.

[@JosephCamacho-df1jz]

Kids that are in ROTC do push-ups , etc…

[@dawnb7457]

We had to take Civics in high school...back in the 1970's🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@vicki5987]

The problem isn’t the teachers it’s the challenged kids….Let’s go military style when that’s completed, let the teachers teach and see how well they do and then pay accordingly!!! Power back to the states, please!! Home School seems to be a blessing in the long hall, where they can have Bible teachings included.

[@saracover8645]

Can you also fix special education. The people who are supposed to be helping the children are not qualified nor educated enough to really help them

[@bradbuckinghamhandsomeprin6027]

I love Vivek, but I wanted to see Jack Black (Mr S) talk about being a teacher.

[@pigeonsquirrel4040]

Really tired of hearing same old rhetoric. Whether teachers are overpaid or underpaid. Where's the responsibility of the parents? I know teachers that tell me barely any parents show up for parent teacher conferences. Not to mention rampant truancy issues. Plus student behavioral issues in the classroom. So much disrespectful behavior that doesn't get addressed. You can be the best teacher, but just get undermined by all these other issues.

[@brianwright4696]

You ever notice that the kids with involved parents that give them good advice seem to mostly do really well? This is not rocket science. If you raise your kids right, even if you are poor. They will mostly do well in life. They will have morals and stand up for the weak, and work hard. That is how we fix this

[@ethansmith8324]

You cannot make the kids do the work. This would not be effective approach because great teachers could be paid significantly less because of other aspects they can’t control. For instance student who don’t try. Then on the other hand you’d have teachers make their assignments super easy so their results look great. This would also create division within the educational system. Putting people in a hierarchy and essential hurting teaching jobs instead of helping. Best idea imo is start base pay for all teachers based on level of degree and get pay increase every year and capping it at a certain point. A lot of municipalities do this.

[@kidchaos1313]

The problem with systems that aren't merit based and don't punish people who are subpar and damaging to the system ie. priests that get moved around after molesting kids, teachers that are absolutely lazy and don't give a $hit, they just get moved around in the system because of fear of repercussions of (*insert reason here*). You have to run the systems on merit base and reward teachers that actually care because I actually remember the handful of teachers that made a difference in my learning because they actually gave a $uck.

[@scrapykat3028]

I can tell you merit based pay will only cause cheating and falsified scores or teaching for a test. Of the 7 teachers on my team, not one of us teaches the same way, but teach standards. I feel by April, you should have taught the basics for your grade and introduce them to higher levels. The type of homework given makes a huge difference. Had a great principal tell me about homework if you give 50 problems for homework and they get most wrong, they don’t get it. You’ll know with ten problems.

[@PDL-v8c]

School bus drivers also

[@DabstiX]

I think that if Vivek would of gotten president, we would see all of the same stuff trump is doing now just a little more articulated.

[@christo0187]

Film cut is wierd. Legs outsretched and then cut to him sittin up legs folded

[@rickmarvelli9238]

Our public education has been under constant and deliberate attack from republicans for generations. They claim that public schools are dysfunctional and underperforming so they should be replaced with home schooling or private religious schools. Public schools are dying because of republicans underfunding the system and diverting taxpayer dollars to private schools, because private education corporations donate to their campaigns. Our schools should be palaces, as common sense investments in ourselves, instead of shambles. Merit based pay makes no sense for employees paying out of their salaries into their own jobs just to function. How about some merit based legislators? Most of congress would be fired!

[@AndyS-k7n]

Blacks destroyed our public schools! Stop blaming lack of funding! Enough is enough!

[@cvdubya5774]

I love this guy but there's no way you can argue that seniority doesn't play a big role in performance. That's just ridiculous but then agaib he's a newcomer to politics. The Republicans will lose a ton of votes from the union community as well if they hurt them. My family are lifelong union members, pretty much all democrats until the last few years but if our livelihood and income is majorly affected by government it's a problem.

[@tombearclaw]

You can’t maintain the status quo and end up with more respect for unionized teachers. It’s either a professional career or it’s a laborer’s job. It can’t be both. And it certainly can’t be both with the usual thuggish antics of the unionistas who seem to be in the driver’s seat

[@ep1cg4m3r69]

Does vivek think we need more Indian teachers?

[@patrickstonetree1]

This is just wrong, not like wrong in the philosophical sense, wrong like what he says does not match the reality. Math teachers, any teacher who has a hard to come by specialty, are typically paid more than a PE teacher. The pay is not flat. This was easily researched, make sure before you prognosticate.

[@matthewjoffrion4739]

Everyone is underpaid

[@jibjabhamers8177]

Your safer and treated better in jail. I don't put the stupid kids stuff all on the teachers its the lazy parents as well.

[@Whyaretaxespayingforcorr-cc8sr]

*^^^ Viveck wanted to put Americans on psychiatric prescriptions and put them in Mental Institutions* add his mother is a geriatric psychiatrist?

[@patravinci]

Merit based pay is nice in theory but tends to fail miserably in practice. Especially in education. Too many factors that can go wrong. Vivek lost me with this argument. Seems to be lacking critical thinking here.

[@redlightdistrict8038]

I’m seriously starting to to question Shawn’s integrity I am quickly starting to think of him the way I think of Patrick bet David

[@NBTP747]

Majority of teachers are overpaid because it’s a part-time job. I don’t know any other job where you have off summer two weeks vacation at Christmas spring break fall break. Give me a break. That’s a part-time gig.

[@bluebirdgramma6317]

Congress might be in that position too.!?

[@AEVMU]

My mom was an elementary school teacher for 26 years in southern california. I cannot estimate the number of nights she was up untill 2-3 am grading papers. After 26 years she was making 85k per year. In my area, teachers starting now might make 50-60k before taxes, thats lower middle class where I am. Per hour, they don't make that much even when accounting for time off and many work summer school.

[@bucketosudz]

Tell us you don't know shit about education and teachers without telling us. Teachers work through summer break A LOT, work during Christmas break and during Spring break. Also you have no idea how difficult it is to take a day off when you need one, sick or otherwise. Part-time...psssht, get out of here!

[@mikebolton3816]

Starting teachers in Wa State are making over 60k get full benefits packages, and... You have zero chance of being a teacher if your a straight conservative male, because WA STATE teachers union only wants to hire 300lb lesbians.