Teaching A Stallion to Work Around Other Horses - Nuri the Part-Bred Arab

In this first video of Nuri the Part-Bred Arab, we see how whilst learning to drive (despite a few initial hiccups!) a young stallion can also learn to have good manners around other horses, be that when working closely alongside them, meeting ridden horses on the road and even when passing by loose horses turned out in fields, all whilst in carriage.
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[@keithjacobson4493]

What a great life he can have if he continues to be driven miles and miles. That’s what makes stallions into great horses, lots of opportunities to travel. Well done!

[@Esmerelda666]

I own Nuri. He is my third stallion and my second home bred horse. He will have a good life hacking, schooling and being an upstanding riding horse, like all my others. There is no reason that he should not succeed as a driving horse as well. 😊. I would like him to have a varied life, and the idea is that he will be brought out under saddle this year, as well as having fun at home, and learning more about jumping and being ridden in company. Stallions just need to understand what is acceptable and what is not. Generally, when the tack is on, they need to follow those different rules. Sometimes this is easy to teach, sometimes it takes longer. I absolutely agree that work is very important for the mind and body. Especially for stallions, but for all horses. I want my horses to be in the best possible position to find good homes if circumstances change. This is my responsibility as the owner and sending Nuri to be driven was to be ‘another feather in his cap’ so to speak. I do enjoy driving myself.

[@cattymajiv]

@@Esmerelda666 You are SO wise to think about "if circumstances change"! If only all owners would be that wise! The more they can do, and the better they are at learning new things, the better the chances that they will always have a good home. A horse that stagnates has a much greater chance of becoming neglected or even abused in the future, if things go sideways. BRAVO to you!

[@JohnAmidon-c6r]

Cloud is pretty darned slick at influencing his partner without overreacting!

[@barryhook2]

He sure is!

[@Esmerelda666]

I was so I impressed at Cloud’s understanding of what the driving schoolmaster job is. The way he is proactive where he knows support is needed. What a fantastic job he does!

[@cattymajiv]

@@barryhook2 I loved your explanation of why you use a rubber bit. I assume it's a rubber snaffle. All owners should teach their horse to respond to a bit, even if they intend to ride bitless. And all horses should always be ridden or driven in the least severe bit there is, exactly as you said and why you said it. Because it's almost impossible to ever go back. In every way, with every aide and every instruction, we need to start with the mildest and softest form of communicating possible, and to stay there as long as we can. If it becomes necessary to escalate or strengthen the message, people should only ever escalate in tiny steps, if at all. Otherwise they will eventually find themselves jumping up and down and screaming, but still being ignored. The horse isn't bad. People too learn to ignore things. It's a natural reaction to stimulus. So if a saddle horse for trail riding knows how to respond to the softest of bits, but goes fine with a bitless bridle, that's the best option there. I would still use a rubber snaffle now and then, just for the practise. Some horses will not respond as well to a bitless bridle, so then I would do my best to keep them in a rubber snaffle, and not ever go to something more severe or with leverage unless absolutely necessary.

[@MerelvandenHurk]

@@cattymajiv I wholeheartedly agree. There's a reason why horses in riding schools for children are virtually unresponsive to leg aids, while the kids riding them are kicking them nearly every step. They just learn to ignore it, to shut that stimulus out. It's hard to look at a lot of the time. But horses that are consciously ridden with the lightest aids that only escalate when necessary and then going back to the lighter aid the next time, those will stay sensitive. I do the same with new cats, if they do something they're not supposed to like jumping onto the table or kitchen counter I first give a simple verbal warning, and if they don't listen I escalate (NEVER to the point of harming them by the way). And the end result: I only have to give the verbal warning and they jump off right away. It's just better for everyone involved if you can train your animal in such a way that you only need light aids. The less pressure we have to exert, the better it is for them.

[@SocialShires]

it's just a warm feeling when travelling with horses and everyone starts smiling and waving, as if you are the greatest thing they've seen all day

[@brigittegeorg]

Because you probably will be. 🤩

[@matthewsmith3081]

In last 3 years I have driven over 30 horses threw the streets off new York city your advice is second too none god bless you and you tube

[@Horsygurl93]

I don’t usually comment on KZbin but I just have to say how much I love watching your videos. I’ve had horses all of my life but only now getting into driving. My son is also learning so much from your videos at 10years old he is proving to be quite a natural horseman and he is picking up so much from your videos on how to read horses and that patience goes a long way. Barry you are such a inspiration to the horse world. Also big shout out to cloud who is amazing and of course all of your team. Keep the films coming we always want to see more x

[@barryhook2]

Thank-you! Best wishes to you and your son!

[@robertshrewsbury5067]

Really appreciate Cloud's good efforts as a schoolmaster. Thank you for explaining Nuri's progress and need to be able to "hear/listen" to learn. Chuckled when he gracefully jumped over a road marking. (Not fun, but unusual.) Always enjoy the changing scenery during the year and comments about shifting conditions, as roadside mud. Interesting this is a horse that "needs a break" while they grow and process what they learned. Nice to see the formation of elegance and polish as he gains confidence and skills. That was a stack of obstacles at once, with a bike coming from a bike path onto the road, a bridge and then horses off to the side. Cloud had a tail swish, he was enjoying himself, around 31:09. Thank you.

[@Sally237-s4w]

Cloud does his job well,of leaning in when the Arab shys away from central traffic..youved school,cloud well barry .

[@brigittegeorg]

I love the way horses are so close to each other and touch each others bodies, if you know what I mean. You will if you're a horse person. 😊

[@katherinejacoby5915]

He looks like an Arab/Fjord mix...really pretty lad & as usual I'm always blown away at how easy u make even the harder stuff look when it comes to teaching all these clients driving manners!!! ❤

[@Esmerelda666]

He is a bay purebred arab on a partbred cremello mare. Luckily he kept his frosting. He is 81 percent arab. He has small amounts of Connemara, Dartmoor, TB, Anglo, Welsh Mountain

[@Menoetia]

18:!2 I read something recently that said if you do shorter training sessions and end on a high point, then give your horse a bit of time to rest, they retain that training much better than if you have longer, more frequent sessions of drill-type training. It was a study done on horse training methods to see which were most effective and it makes sense: horses are highly intelligent with excellent memory, and memory is developed while at rest. Pretty fascinating study I stumbled on, and it'll shape how I work with the next horse I bring home.

[@barryhook2]

We definitely believe in letting the horse have downtime to consolidate their learning!

[@timothyhume3741]

I have always worked stallions together, Four up, and never had any fights or untoward situations. SOMETIMES NEEDS A STRONG HAND Stallions are great workers once you get them going well. Yes always keep the stallions going, Thanks man Great work.

[@dove-1234]

Poetry in commotion…. What a proud handsome beauty , a joy to watch uri come into your hands and trust in your voice. And you have to love the bomb proof trustworthy teacher cloud, God love him. It is a privilege to observe and learn as you take us on uri’s journey into domesticity, whilst retaining his full unclipped spirit. Youre juggling a lot of balls there, Barry, and doing as excellent job, well done.

[@jobond3317]

You have a great understanding and empathy with the horses Love hearing trotting in harness. Always think of my dad who died in 1984 He knew about driving and working horses Bitter sweet memories but love you taking us for a ride. I wonder if you take students and maybe I too old Keep ost videos. Would be nice to see the beginning of horse training to handle back to owner 😊

[@barryhook2]

We don't take students, but we do Experience Days if you'd like to look into coming along on one of those you'd be welcome to - the information is on our website: www.horsedrawnpromotions.com/training-services/

[@angeloddrev]

This is so interesting to see him improve so much! I inherited years ago a palomino Arab called Amber from a woman who couldn't control him. He'd tanked off with her across a rugby field and she called it a day. He was freshly gelded when I got him, but he was wild and crazy as they were of the opinion a stallion should spend most of it's time in a stable with barbed wire around the door. Took a lot of time, a lot of basics but he ended up a really good calm horse, could ride him anywhere. In 1 year he was turning his hand at anything and showing. It takes a lot of time and patience and small repetitions, not forgetting a real bond is nice which not everyone realizes. This was such a lovely video to watch, Nuri is gorgeous! I also rescued an underweight welsh x arab silver dun with the exact same mane, tail and leg patterns as Nuri, takes me back. It's been quite a few years. Thanks for sharing! Reply

[@barryhook2]

Lovely to hear!

[@joleu8146]

Happy Birthday Baz. From Spencer, Massachusetts USA. Driving is popular in the New England area! Wonderful sport for us who can’t sit comfortably on a saddle.

[@jennybrown3848]

Just copletely charming! , Great listening to you too!

[@pixie706]

Arabs do have attitude and especially a stallion . well done Barry he's going nicely.

[@deanneflavel6954]

I need a Valium now. Nerves of steel. Best training. 🎉

[@AndreaDingbatt]

Your Patience, Experience, Knowledge and Understanding Shines through yet Again!! You've done a Fantastic Job with the Darling, Nuri!! I have to Agree with you about Nuri going Home , ~to Grow up a little , also to Rest and Digest the Lessons he's Learned!! I've seen Too Many Wonderful, Kind Horses, "Soured" due to Pushing them On,, When they're Needing Time Off.... It's Truly a Sad Thing to Watch, when people Keep On at the Horse,,, Souring and Spoiling a Lovely Temperament... Whereas You Know that His Head's Full of Learning and he's Better Off having a "Holiday"!! Just like Children Do. Thank you Barry and Rhi for Sharing This with Us All. Best Wishes and Kindest Regards for the New Year! From Carlisle, UK. (Reiver Country!!) Andréa and Jasper. . XxX...

[@debtompkins5363]

memories of my big black pushing a buckskin horse over where he belonged :-) I love your equipment that can safely take the 'bouncings'

[@sharronhamric3971]

Very simple approach, and an amazing result.

[@junebrown3096]

Very interesting well done that man

[@AliceHall-e1n]

Beautiful Pair impressive great job, I was lucky to drive a six horse on a combine, miss it,

[@honesttraitorbear3527]

Impressive

[@chfgypsy]

Enjoying the info but also the green...it is very cold and brown here in SW Missouri. Brrr

[@rachelashby6983]

Brilliant x

[@Mitmacher]

This is a picture of spiritual life, walking on a knife edge, to be a bladerunner. Constantly putting your life at risk. Fear and trembling. Nothing is more uncertain than life and nothing is more certain than death. A fight to preserve good values ​​in a fearful world of decadence. Horses are usefull and needed for this fight.

[@AndreaDingbatt]

Not for the Fight, but for the Journey, and the Companionship!❤ Horses have been Our Greatest Teachers !! Also , with the Human Race all the Way throughout the History of Humanity, The Horse has been at Our Side!!❤ A Spiritual Guide Always!! Wishing Peace Love Light and Joy, ~ to You and Yours, Namasté 🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️ Andréa and Jasper. .. XxX...

[@Mitmacher]

@@AndreaDingbatt Yes, the word fight has not survived modernity, except in the physical realm. That speaks for itself and says a lot.

[@AndreaDingbatt]

@@Mitmacher Yes ,I agree with you about this. Knowledge of the etymology of a word, ~and the many and varied roots of them are becoming an occulted aspect of languages including English. It's fairly prevalent and the school system has been taken "Hostage" many subjects this is becoming more and more noticeable indeed especially in the western parts of the world.. Namasté 🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️ Peace be with you and yours. 🫶 Andréa and Critters. ... XxX... Ps, However , this is perhaps a little bit off topic. I think this might be better discussed elsewhere?! In order to be respectful of Rhi and Barry Hook This is a Great channel across many different countries , with many different subjects about the horses, Barry Hook is one of the best truly great horsemen ever!! Without a doubt and the reason I come here.. I hope that I didn't offend you?! I have seen you commenting here, all comments are good for a channel because of the algorithm. Peace 🙏🕊️ And I Thank you very much again for sharing your thoughts!! Pps 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Sorry I didn't realize it was Another terribly long reply, my apologies to you again friend!!

[@chfgypsy]

I have a lovely vanner/cob . Would like to try a wondererin (sp?)bit. Previously ordered a rubber bit here in states. It was a rubber coated chain which my boy chewed to pieces.

[@barryhook2]

Winderen - we've only had two be chewed through and both horses had dental issues that caused this. We also use Shires and Korsteel, but always fully flexible rubber, not rubber-covered solid bits. Hope that helps!

[@ginajohnsonclan]

I have a mare that had a kicking fit like this and broke my harness. It was my fault. She had balked at pulling my Meadowbrook up a slight incline and I popped her with my whip on her side. Really bad move! I haven’t driven since. I should have allowed my husband to get out and lead her up the short incline and gone back in my training to work her through this, but hind sight is 20/20. 😢

[@barryhook2]

Hindsight is always 20/20! We can only learn from our mistakes and try not to repeat them!

[@cawrighty]

Nice work. May I ask what the attached ring is for that is connected to the pole and has the reins running thorough it please? Thank you

[@barryhook2]

The ring is on a bungee, it helps stop the cross over part of the reins from being pulled forward over the head of the pole and getting stuck under it, removing your steering! Quite useful for green horses that tend to move their heads around and up and down a lot. It is less of a risk for a pair of. more experienced horses, but it is still a useful tool!

[@debtompkins5363]

is there a reason for starting him on the right closer to the traffic, than on the left with cloud between him and the traffic???

[@sassy6292]

Cloud blocks him from pushing the whole rig off the road. Otherwise the Arab would drag everything off the road if he’s not being blocked by Cloud.

[@barryhook2]

Absolutely. We always start our young horses on the offside. As Sassy says below, we would rather he bump into Cloud than jump into the gutter and pull back, meaning Cloud would have to pull into the traffic to correct his direction and keep us on the road. Secondly, if a young horse spooks at something on the nearside and bumps into the schoolmaster, we are at more danger of being pushed into an oncoming vehicle. Another reason is that the student will never likely be asked (unless working in a trandem, which we also do) to be that close to oncoming traffic again during their single work - think about road positioning of single horse vs a pair - so once they transition to single work, the vehicles seem further away and less of an issue to them whilst they are dealing with everything that comes with being out on their own without a schoolmaster. They do of course also work nearside before going single (if started in a pair - not all horses work alongside a schoolmaster in their training) so they have seen the gutter too, however we find they are quicker to get used to traffic if they do not spend time 'hiding behind' a schoolmaster at the beginning.

[@jenniferlehman326]

Bucking like that was like throwing a temper tantrum. How old is Nuri, Baz? Your friend, the Retired Paramedic and Horse Trainer, with 5 happy mares and 5 healthy foals, in Ontario, Canada, Jenn 💖 🇨🇦

[@barryhook2]

Nuri is 4 years old. Congrats on the foals, Jenn! Great to hear they're all here safely and their mums are too.

[@danielabaumann1165]

Beside a Gelding should be never a Problem. He has to learn work and be calm beside a Mare. Thats harder... 😂

[@barryhook2]

Absolutely - but Nuri struggled with proximity of any horse to begin with. He would 'show off' to any gelding, stallion or mare he saw!

[@jasmin-wq8lh]

❤ Is Nuri a Stallion?

[@jasmin-wq8lh]

Wowww bist du fantastisch, du machst das toll Nuri ☺️🥰😊

[@barryhook2]

Yes he is!

[@fion1flatout]

Wow that does look like a work in progress. I just got a new pony.. known her years and helped put her in a cart, but she's been a kid s pony 5 or 6 years. Been walking out (town environment) and started long reining and putting-to and she s ok... But awful stable manners and took about 10 days to start eating properly. I wonder if she s sleep deprived? Do you think that happens?

[@nightowlanna1069]

Sleep deprivation can happen. I've watched a video of an in hand clinic where a nervous horse could finally relax and he slept trough the next half of the clinic. The person giving the clinic noticed what happen, that we was laying down and sleeping and let him be. He was too nervous to do that before so he had some sleep to catch up on. Not eating after going to a new place is not uncommn at all. Can be travel stress, stress of a new place and new food as well sometimes.Only thing you can do is make the food available and wait and see.

[@barryhook2]

Quite possibly. Some horses take much longer to settle into a new environment than others and this often translates as being unable to sleep properly!

[@susanblawhorne3427]

Where are you located?

[@barryhook2]

Just outside of Andover, Hampshire in England.

[@margrietoregan828]

Another Arabian stallion : ~ kzbin.info/www/bejne/momaZp6mi7N_aMUsi=-AHuuKsw5rRz4rQF I spent all day sick in bed yesterday watching this ‘SBH Stable’ ‘Aequitas’ Untrained Arabian Stallion playlist !!! And now I just watched Nuri !!! Barry, I don’t know if you have either the time or inclination to watch another horse master truly up at your own level, but I ain’t sick today. A million thank yous to the both of you ~ Steve Dyer of ‘SBH Stable’ has roughly the same supreme level of patience, experience AND know-how savvy as do you, 😘😘😘

[@Mitmacher]

He's lucky this horse never learned to fight. It was probably never in a herd, not even as a young horse. He lacks the techniques of combat other than overrunning someone. In terms of fighting, it's a blank slate. With a master of combat, the man would be on the ground or outside the round pen. He would have to stand in the middle of the round pen and place barriers around him so that the horse cannot reach him.

[@NotKev2017]

What a beautiful gelding he would make. And he would have a much better life as a gelding than as a stallion.

[@barryhook2]

Perhaps, but give him time - he's young yet! His manners and behaviour should improve with time. If not, he has been collected for AI to pass on his genetics and perhaps his owner will choose to geld him, but that will be their choice.

[@agranetmedia2667]

Barry, why would anyone want to keep a horse intact, as a stallion, to be used as a pleasure horse? If not intended for breeding purposes, isn't a stallion just too much trouble, when a gelded horse would be much more contented, overall? Dennis, in Canada.

[@barryhook2]

Hi Dennis, depends on owner preference. As it happens Nuri is a breeding horse which is why he is entire. This video - and his completed training video next year hopefully - will be part of his 'dating profile' for potential breeding mares' owners to see what he is capable of. In terms of why anyone with horse purely for pleasure might keep him entire, it is down to personal preference usually and perhaps the fact they may want to breed from him in the future if he is a particularly good horse. Occasionally something such as coat colour may come into it for working stallions - for example entire male Friesians tend to stay blacker than their gelded counterparts, which is preferred for horses pulling carriages for for funerals etc. When properly trained and worked, a stallion should be no more trouble to work than a gelding in all situations.

[@rhondaskiles5740]

You don't keep a stud unless you want to make money breeding him having a stud just to say you have one isn't the way to do it the owner usually don't know what they are doing and they end up in Canada or Mexico as dog food or horse meat america is one of the few countries that don't eat their horses

[@Sine-gl9ly]

I have lived in countries where the norm is for horses to be kept entire, all stallions yarded together in peace. Only constant troublemakers were gelded. I have kept a pony stallion entire here in the UK with no problem, he was perfectly well-mannered, content and docile. However I did eventually have him gelded for his own future welfare, due to the 'perception' of stallions here in the UK and the fact that, getting no younger myself, he might have needed to find a new home at short notice. He did move on to a lovely new home which he wouldn't've done if he'd still been entire.

[@cattymajiv]

@@rhondaskiles5740 Wow! Here you are here too, throwing in your uninformed comments. I see you doing this all over the place. I really have to wonder why on earth a complet novice, with virtually no idea at all, would want to make a fool of themself all over KZbin!

[@joe-ut9kb]

If you feel a horse should be gelded , buy it.

[@pamgaige1282]

Why trot horses on pavement????

[@Mitmacher]

Attempted answer: Because they can't and need not read. They have their own laws. They don`t want to walk all the time. Because it's safer for them than on the streets. Because they are horses. ... . Why do You ask this question?

[@Mitmacher]

What I love about horses, among other things, they don't ask stupid questions.

[@Mitmacher]

Because some people replaced the lawn with paving, not the idea of ​​a horse.

[@barryhook2]

More good considerations to be made!

[@Mitmacher]

@@barryhook2 Because people hardly use the sidewalk anymore. They prefer to use a motorized wheelchair also known as car. Some call it vehicle or maybe drivetool or prosthesis as an attempt to fill the gap between can and want to or can and dream in terms of mobility. There are sidewalks and cycle paths in many places useless/pointless, wouldn't a horse run there every now and then and thus avoid car traffic and give a clear path for wheelchair racers. Are you up to date? In some areas there are special horse trails next to the road.

[@lesleydickson7746]

It seems a shame to have an Arab stallion pulling a cart. 😕

[@barryhook2]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that seems a strange one to have! He also serves mares and is ridden. Why would it be a 'shame' for him to be a very useful all rounder? He also happens to look very handsome in harness and his owner is hopeful that prospective breeding mare owners will be pleased to see he is multi-talented!

[@Sine-gl9ly]

What a strange point of view to hold! Would it sound better to your ears to have an Arab stallion 'drawing a carriage'? Perhaps 'pulling a cart' should be confined to scruffy pit ponies and hairy cart horses!Lol! I remember, about 40 or so years ago, the journal of the Arab Horse Society here in the UK had an edition with a beautiful photo of two bay Arab stallions _pulling a cart_ , with the caption 'Save oil - drive an Arab!'

[@cattymajiv]

@@barryhook2 I completely agree! As would 99 % of knowledgable horse people.

[@neilturner2924]

why keep a thing like that a stallion

[@TheSilverRaven13]

Knowing the horse world breeders? Probably because He'S pUrDeE

[@EvelynTokamp]

A thing?

[@patriciahorn7415]

Nice patient sensible trainer, wish they were all like this

[@barryhook2]

He's young and learning his manners. As time goes on he will learn to compose himself better around others and learn how to ride and drive safely, confidently and happily. He is actually a nice young man to be around most of the time, this video does not show him at his best! He is of breeding quality to his owners and the Arab Horse Society and therefore he has been chosen to remain a stallion. One day he may be gelded, but of all the stallion that have been through the HDP yard, he is not the worst in behaviour by a long way!

[@Esmerelda666]

That is a bit rude. Nuri is my horse. He Is most definitely breeding quality on conformation and temperament alone. This video may not show him in his best light but he is still young. In fact, at home he had no problem listening when he was ridden, even when other horses were galloping in the fields. He has received many compliments on his behaviour prior to this. One could assume that for some reason he found this process a little more difficult. He is now back home at a new yard and becoming settled again. In a few weeks he will be back under saddle and may return to Barry when he is solid in his ridden work