I prefer to play fun games, rather than competitive, so the T-72 is great for me. It means you can get good non hordy games against non competitive lists like S-tanks, Merkavas etc
@Fifty_Two_Hz5 ай бұрын
Any chance of a update with the new suggested point changes?
@Dannyjoglar985 ай бұрын
Gotta redo this with new points
@arekmucha48453 ай бұрын
You missed su-100 for cubans ;)
@arekmucha48453 ай бұрын
But FA 7 AT17 slow firing gun cross check of 5+ I reckon its A tier at least
@OwenMcGarel-y5n9 ай бұрын
Can you repeat your national restrictions?
@dennisdaniels43869 ай бұрын
What are the three S tier? M1, T55AM and what the last one?
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
T55
@TheAnzalf9 ай бұрын
What about Merkava?
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
at the end
@Paul_Beach8 ай бұрын
How do you rate the Finnish T-72FM2?
@forwarnedforarmed2208 ай бұрын
I find the fins, a bit of a hard one to rate as its unique to them, while its a good tank for them id put in the same category as t72b or 1 higher based of the skill and range as it allows you to blitz and use range to engage other similar class tanks. it is also a good QRF tank for the fins and as well as bumping up pts for sweeds for use for reserves.
@ausaskar9 ай бұрын
Not sure I agree with grouping the Soviet T-72 and the T-72M and putting them on E. The T-72M is a great way to put down a lot of cheap and nasty AT21 (sabot) on the table - which is what makes the Soviet T-62M such a good pick.
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
If it was V1, I would agree with you, but with all the new added ATGM weapons readily available in V2 I Don't see a place for them on the comp scene when the T72b is a much better tank, especially for Warpact
@lucianaurelius24189 ай бұрын
No T-72’s just suck especially the M literally just take Spandrels
@ausaskar9 ай бұрын
@@lucianaurelius2418 The armoured car with FA1 and no moving RoF, not to mention the limited availability of 1 unit of 3 in Div Support +1 with a BTR or BMP Battalion? It ain't it chief. If I had to take AT21 HEAT, it'd probably be with black box Raketenpanzers.
@wozja9 ай бұрын
T72M for the Czechs are still relevant i believe. The discounted price AT 21 platform with range and it can be spamed for the Czechs
@lucianaurelius24189 ай бұрын
@@wozja yeah no
@lucianaurelius24189 ай бұрын
You rank the 2A4 an A but the ASU an E???? You do realize you’re playing Team Yankee not wargame Red Dragon right?
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
The ASU is a poor tank, it can only be found in 2 formations, can not be taken as black box, does not have the cross, a poor weapon as it AT is 14 and heat, a single leo2 could defeat 10 of them. on the other hand a leo2 can be a 1 drop reserve unit can plug gaps, assault infantry and has the skill, cross and tac move to get in and out of danger.
@lucianaurelius24189 ай бұрын
@@forwarnedforarmed220 IT HAS 2 SHOTS and is like 1 ish points a model! U take it to counter Leo 1’s and IFV. Idgaf about Leo 2 it’s a sitting duck begging to be ATGM’d
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
it may have rof 2, but its still outmatched, as I said it good for ambush and IFVs that is it. where would you rate it.
@lucianaurelius24189 ай бұрын
@@forwarnedforarmed220 for the role it fills for being dirt cheap and A rating it’s filling a T-55 role except even cheaper and double the shots it’s designed to counter nato Leo 1’s for the money. Any Pact player would agree
@forwarnedforarmed2209 ай бұрын
I will have to strongly disagree, these are the reasons why, 1. it's the same prices as T55 which are far superior to the ASU and they can do any role. 2. the ASU is only good on the turn it ambushes; from there it is easily countered. why it's a one trick pony. 3. most soviet players favour horde style tactics for tournaments which is why you will hardly see them in use in tournaments. 4. it's only available to VDV formations. 5. look at the kanonpanzerjager for West Germans which is much better on paper but has draw backs being a support choice similar to the ASU which just beats it for the ranking. 6. It has a AT 14 heat gun which is useless against most tanks, yes it may be ROF2 which is why its not an F. 7. to rate it an A you have to compare it to every other tank and I don't see it beating any of the d class tanks. 8. Its forward firing which can easily be countered and flack by leo1 which have a better range, skill and cross to manoeuvrer over terrain. 9. most pact players if faced with choosing between ASU and T55 for the same pts will pick the T55
@TheTermigrot3 ай бұрын
This is highly opinion oriented and lacks objectivity. It seems the criteria are not goood or bad but more about numbers fielded. Closer you get to hoard numbers, the better the tank. This not even consistent as a hoard force can get side shots even with other week stats.