so well edited, loved the set design, and the participants were great!
@coffeebunwithlotus78156 ай бұрын
Thank you Honda for the new quality content 🙏
@coffeebunwithlotus78156 ай бұрын
P.S. I wouldn't necessarily complain if I were to receive an invite to the next one 👀
@chriszak316 ай бұрын
Thank you Honda
@JXie386 ай бұрын
Petition to have Impact in this style of video, the guy would be hilarious
@DamianEstrada6 ай бұрын
Here for Fan Drew! Dude is so freaking funny!
@anthonypalazzole6 ай бұрын
You da best Damian! 🐐
@RotteNygard6 ай бұрын
Even though it’s not depicted in this video, I still think the majority of us viewers of LCS will recognize Bjergsen as the Goat and symbol of NA
@TeamLiquidLoL6 ай бұрын
Lucky to work with both!
@forsaann5 ай бұрын
holy shit this was a great, i hope they do more of this format
@Chyiu6 ай бұрын
I FUCKING LOVE THIS TYPE OF CONTENT! MORE!
@Lokitoh6 ай бұрын
Shoutout to Lourlo being the best human being and playing high quality League
@KlausTube996 ай бұрын
Should’ve invited T1, would’ve created more “discussions“
@mlm51506 ай бұрын
I love this content! Need more of it!
@nooootnooooot6 ай бұрын
ok this is grreattt
@flame-fl3yy6 ай бұрын
This was top tier content
@PlsDontReadThis1236 ай бұрын
HIGH QUALITY CONTENT. Color me surprised.
@heberdo46396 ай бұрын
i be watching these videos like if i’m being paid for playing the game
@ultraaran156 ай бұрын
I like the dude at 17:00 but hes obviously such an NA fan haha China has like 6 arenas and 17 pro teams in their LPL circuit. Aslong as China has a foot in the race so will the rest of the world. China alone is like 1/7 of the world population. Theyll keep the game alive by force if necessary. League is so big in the East its not even close, its like how NA CS fans think the game is dying but then you look at EU and see how much love there is for the game. An entire continent is behind LoL 2 more if you count Europe and NA, even if you drop Europe and NA. Game still gonna be relevantz
@SerYordles3 ай бұрын
I know I am a little late on this, but DL is also the goat because he lives and breathes for League. How many of the "big name" retired pros are still as obsessed with the game as he is?
@GachaJay6 ай бұрын
Top 10 content of any org this decade
@mellodevils68376 ай бұрын
i wish i was able to ask one question bc that would be do u think more players would stick around in league if they iP banned ppl(reason i ask is bc ive been playing since release and im not playing that much anymore bc i finished d4 last season and now this season i have a negative wr bc of trolls and afks on my team for more then 70% of my games and im never getting to play the game anymore bc its over by 5 min) (also really good video)
@Rerpesentz6 ай бұрын
No game is over by 5 minutes, that's a mind set diff, there are plenty of games great players just plain fuck up and get outplayed (By other great players) it's the nature of league of legends
@yellowbot.league6 ай бұрын
This was actually so well done!
@antonb16326 ай бұрын
this was fun
@vincentwu23256 ай бұрын
Is that spica's sister
@zwolga6 ай бұрын
This is great content. Thank you Honda *alienware
@frostedtimes39146 ай бұрын
CoreJJ is wild we all know the best NA adc is Imaqtpie
@themanhimself4366 ай бұрын
pros (+emerald player..?) vs casters
@LaughingMage6 ай бұрын
God this content is magnificent.
@DemonicGorilla6 ай бұрын
Brother i watched CoreJJ sprint it the fk down on T1
@Megan-sb2ju6 ай бұрын
so glad they said no to the LEC format question, their new format has made LEC so much less interesting and everything feels much lower stakes.
@christmastimelor7906 ай бұрын
where was this energy when Bjerg was on the "super" team. Core voted bjerg as the goat on that list.. so did Steve.
@JPLX996 ай бұрын
thank you honda!
@Extra_Depresso6 ай бұрын
the NA import topic is simple. LCS scene is terrible, the growth is limited, and there is less money in the LCS than it has ever been. Most teams resort to imports because it is easier to get great talent out the door rather than invest in a player and hope they grow to that level in a few years. And lets be real most NA players goes into the pro scene to gain a reputation then becomes a streamer full-time. the relevance topic, LoL won't die. Many say it will die but the audience is growing. People who say LoL is dying are the DOTA players that thinks DOTA is the best MOBA. I have a LoL hater friend that stands on dota being the better LoL, but yet he only plays LoL. He also even keeps up with the meta and patch notes, but not for dota. They hate LoL, but they love the game.
@Broken_dish6 ай бұрын
i def think lol community is the most toxic ive ever seen of any game by far just watching pro games and the chat is so gross how toxic people are they will take every opportunity to trash every single mistake even when they would make the same thing its just constant flaming and raging..i took a 3 year break came back and my 4th game i had a yone top running it down and blaming everyone else dude blaming bot for himself getting ganked ect its so gross and people like him are the reason many people dont even wanna get in the game it is very unfortunate how being a toxic turd is so accepted when all it dose is drive new players away also the elitism is gross acting like people dont make mistakes and then when they do you just ff or get super negative and flame or run it down its so gross it would be amazing if the community would move on from this stupid phase that they have been in for years now its time the lol community grows up
@Kigoli6 ай бұрын
Doublelift is the most popular NA player of all time, no doubt. But calling him the goat when he never made it out of groups of worlds is such a joke IMO.
@mambaforever32396 ай бұрын
It’s like the Jordan vs Lebron Argument. Bjerg peaked higher but Doublelift did it longer. I play both mid and adc and both were my favorite players for a long time but I rank Bjerg higher than Doublelift. Bjerg never really went out and said he’s the best, he just lets his game do the talking. He had an insane arsenal of champions played on stage and played every single one well for the most part. As per Doublelift, he said Bjerg was actually the shot caller of the team when they played together and he was amazed how Bjerg was able to view things in ways he didn’t thought of. And knowing what I know now about how shit of an owner Reginald was for TSM and Bjerg as a teen was able to flourish despite that kind of environment. I also don’t understand why people say Bjerg never had international success, Young Bjerg was playing vs Pawn in the 2014 Worlds Quarterfinals. No disrespect to Doublelift of course as both are qualified and worthy to be called the GOAT of LCS.
@LightDin6 ай бұрын
doublelift left tsm and destroyed them to conquer lcs on another team its DL
@elibaki51306 ай бұрын
gj
@GreasyJim6 ай бұрын
This video would be a lot better if I didn’t get an ad every 2 fucking minutes
@anantvirsingh42826 ай бұрын
copywrite jk lol
@laitszfung6 ай бұрын
6-0 bjer : Doublelift??? I don't think this is even close to the reality, I love both of them, but the whole episode is just people agreeing with each other
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
Doublelift is way ahead. Should have been 6-0. Yes. That LCS fan spoiled it talking stupd sht like My Hero Academia, like wtf? Bjerg needed Doublelift to get trophies, while Doublelift didnt need Bjerg. Doublelift even helped 3 different orgs get trophies, while Bjerg failed hard the moment he doesnt have a TSM superteam. Lol. End of argument.
@Dieqo936 ай бұрын
@@Nino-cv4dw mate, just stop trying
@SeksiChaps5 ай бұрын
I was invested in watching this, but had to stop midway because my HTC phone was ringing.
@gabeitches26546 ай бұрын
Sorry but it’s bjergsen
@blankoblanco6 ай бұрын
Huuge win for team Doublelift. I have to agree. Bjergsen was so dominant when he first came to NA, but it tapered off, even though he continued to be a top 2 Mid. Doublelift just kept growing throughout his career, and he went from being a brainless mechanical God to actually being a smart player who made all his teams better.
@georgeide23376 ай бұрын
It didnt taper off lol he was dominant from 2014 til 2017 in terms of mechanics and definently more respected Internationally at that point. Doublelift is a 12 year old boy trapped in the body of a adult.
@jeffallenwang6 ай бұрын
I think Doublelift also going something like 4 consecutive LCS wins in both TSM AND TL cemented that. I had Bjergsen over DL but then Bjergsen never found success outside TSM whereas DL has found success on as an OG with CLG, pushed TL to relevancy, and made MSI finals (if won, that woulda been highlight for NA) outside of his time with TSM.
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
@@georgeide2337 Bjerg needed Doublelift to get trophies, while Doublelift didnt need Bjerg. Doublelift even helped 3 different orgs get trophies, while Bjerg failed hard the moment he doesnt have a TSM superteam. Lol. End of argument.
@NikolasThane6 ай бұрын
Jensen was kinda kicking his ass back in 2016-17 though.@@georgeide2337
@georgeide23376 ай бұрын
@@Nino-cv4dw go watch LCS again Bjerg won before DL and he did so on a worse roster😂😂😂
@Squid03336 ай бұрын
I love this! Can we get more of this kind of videos?
@drewwoodmansee49826 ай бұрын
Yoo is that Drew from TGI?
@4chipmunkproductions6 ай бұрын
bro it is 😳
@kevinco72266 ай бұрын
Really shocked to see this kind of content from TL. it was great to watch
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
Shocked? TL is the only org that still churning out fresh new contents. Every other org especially TSM dont give a f anymore.
@lucasfantastic53296 ай бұрын
oh sheesh i just realized it's from TL Honda LOL
@jjg19986 ай бұрын
@@Nino-cv4dw Probably especially tsm because... they've not had a league team since last year? What would they make content on lmfao their imploding management?
@greenhorn89356 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this. Good job, TL!
@juice33726 ай бұрын
y'all need to keep bringing drew on!
@Hexecc16 ай бұрын
If he is not on next time, We will find you producers....we will find you :MENACING JOJO POSE:
@CliffArmijo6 ай бұрын
Core's English is so good now. Awesome to see considering how long he has been here now
@RabbitWhispererYT3 ай бұрын
Bjergsen may be the GOAT, but Doublelift is the protagonist
@alvinlee16976 ай бұрын
spica is funny as fuck and has good insight, fantastic guest cast
@slicedice22846 ай бұрын
Love the idea and always support when orgs do content
@kamrooz6 ай бұрын
Actually good content. Well done.
@Jojo-lg5jm6 ай бұрын
Wasn't Palafox pretty good in Flyquest?
@JoshEaa6 ай бұрын
I love the video style. But. Sneaky is the G.O.A.T. of the LCS, show me an average sneaky game actually 12/13 games look good, not ok, good. Look at an average Dlift game and it's much less consistent.
@MalphasMikaelson6 ай бұрын
I can barely understand Core. How is his English still this awful.
@_takina6 ай бұрын
That Fan Drew guy is great! What a cool dude!
@yied23 ай бұрын
Bjerg is such a goat its sad his teammates always held him back in the day.
@SYLXM6 ай бұрын
The efficiency and skill conversation aside when it comes to imports, I think teams are failing to understand how to build a team brand. People like teams like C9 and TSM because (at least in the past), it's not often that players get swapped. And when it does happen, it's a big deal for the whole fan base. Nowadays, these teams have rotating doors for teams and wonder why no one can get invested in their arbitrary branding. No American viewer cares about some faceless bottom 10 LCK player.
@Pourkhoa6 ай бұрын
Amazing content. Glad this came on my fyp.
@noahvessar33186 ай бұрын
Can we get spica on TL now?
@yied23 ай бұрын
Spica is fair TL lost to a minor region
@ismailbaha27506 ай бұрын
faker speak english well to be fair
@adamdaniels15726 ай бұрын
So fan Drew is emerald in this interview, and Gold in your newest video… hmmm…. (Also ain’t no way they discredit Bjerg absolutely smashing the league since day 1 of him being in LCS until he left. Doublelift was not that good the first 2 years he competed, took him a while to start winning and to even start dominating.)
@TeamLiquidLoL6 ай бұрын
He climbed!
@baronnashor1586 ай бұрын
actual goat content
@666deadlysinner6 ай бұрын
1. I feel they need to bring back the import cap. There's so many instances where super teams are made out of imports and flounder. Imports haven't helped changed or made NA better compared to the other regions. 2. Play games in low elo. Its not positive. On a large scale maybe it is like events and bringing people together for international events but down to the bare bones of just getting on and playing its probably one of the most toxic communities. Especially now with the crap matchmaking riot has putting new players in plat or emerald Elo, and all the bot accounts grinding for iron, it's gotten more toxic. 3. League will still be relevant in 10 years. It has already lasted over a decade which a lot of games can't say they have done. And with all the clones that more so try to copy the league formula compared to Dota or Dota 2, most of those games get really hype then die out after a year or two. 4. Double lift is the GOAT of NA LCS. The man left and came back and was still the best ADC In the league between personality and play he is the best, there were plenty of mid laners that rival Bjerg. Double lift is also a NA native Bjerg was one of the first imports. 5. LEC no. LPL or LCK yes. NA needs to bring back relegations and make league more interesting watch. You have a challenger team league with no way of those teams to get into the LCS anymore. Going back yo relegations of the bottom 3 teams would have to fight for their spot against the top 3 teams of the challenger league. And I agree need more best ofs even a best of 2 would make the LCS more watchable. And make it 10 teams again. 6. They do. That's why new champs are typically banned until either a patch or 2 come out that balance them out and make them more tolerable to play against. Even with reworks or certain updates, my main example is stealth Champs, there really isn't much counter play to them without having 3 pink wards in a lane and even then most can get around them. And really you don't think of Champs as fun against. 7. I agree with Spica
@dranzerkai60516 ай бұрын
Maybe League may remain relevant in 10 years but the Esports definitely won't. The day Faker retires, LoL Esports will lose it's relevance. Now before someone starts hurling insults or making assumptions. If you saw Caedrel pull up viewership stats on stream, in LCK's top 10 most viewed games from the 1st round robin, the top 9 were T1 games and the 10th was GenG vs DK which have the 2nd and 3rd largest fanbases followed by GenG KT and KT DK where GenG KT slowly had rising viewership because of the upset and KT DK being 2 even teams (with a blunderful macro) and KT has the 4th largest fanbase still. When Faker was injured last year, that viewership plummeted too. Even at worlds, viewership when T1 plays is higher than years when T1 didn't make it and the views on T1 games are highest too Ofcourse this doesn't factor in LPL team games since these are YT and Twitch stats but the game will lose relevance in the west and maybe to some extent in Korea when Faker is gone. Only LPL may remain relevant
@dushmankush6 ай бұрын
Great content, but Bjergsen is the best NA player. However, Doublelift perfectly incapsulates NA, so I can see why he’s considered the GOAT. NA Region and Doublelift overlap: Loudest Fans with Worst Opinions Overpaid/Overvalued Unwavering confidence despite little international success I’m sure there are more, but the similarities are uncanny.
@Sunshinus6 ай бұрын
Every analyst i've seen agrees that, while flawed, LEC format is just so much better than double round robin. But i guess having more fun and competitive format is less important than amount of trophies. Keep LCS in the storage closet because it is where it belongs with mindset like that.
@Escape2Wonderland6 ай бұрын
also talking about "star studed roster": TLH had two world champions on the roster.... 🙂but yeah Bjerg and DL are on the same level, they are the world champions of my heart haha, so the same accomplishements as Core and Pyosik🙂 honestly doesn't matter, both pretty bad 😀
@a1lo1rixrix6 ай бұрын
Keep these kind of videos coming!
@Ysumguy6 ай бұрын
This probably has nothing to do with LoL... BUT this video reminds me of that one time when I watched Shroud (a pro counter-strike player and a PUBG streamer) entered into a PUBG tournament full of PUBG pro players and he got wrecked in that tournament. Pros and streamers are not the same.
@passion98096 ай бұрын
12:16 Honestly whether or not league will be relevant in 10 years heavily depends on the success of the riot MMO in my opinion . A revolutionary MMO can have insane competitive potential whether directly in some sort of organized in game fight , or even the competitive social / economical aspect of mmos . In albion online for example some guilds literally control parts of the map , so much so that you'll be killed on sight if you're travelling there alone . Such a setting can for sure overshadow league in my opinion .
@Xuejinyuan6 ай бұрын
No Worlds Trophy, don’t even try to discuss GOAT status. Until we get our shit together and stop being satisfied with regional wins, we’re nothing.
@mewk21756 ай бұрын
THIS IS CONTENT
@njmontano16256 ай бұрын
"The idea of Brood War as an esport is still relevant even if the game is no longer played..." While not technically wrong, the game's still being played in it's remastered form. The pro tournament, ASL S17(Afreeca TV Starcraft Remastered League Season 17), is currently ongoing.
@QuangNguyen206 ай бұрын
“They took our jobs” - South Park
@ramusvinicini6 ай бұрын
Wish i could've seen a devil's advocate take on imports in LCS. I wanted someone to talk about live LCS chat, I almost feel like I can't watch live LCS because of the negativity in chat, I'd rather watch the VOD. The unfiltered takes in this video is the greatest, not super negative but just honest. Also, the lighting and quality of this video is amazing. Also, also, the members were all great, huge fan.
@lemonhaze15066 ай бұрын
Maybe get CoreJJ to stop intentionally running it down in his soloQ game first? Dirty inter mf
@tatro2226 ай бұрын
corejj talking about toxic streamers after getting torched by tyler1 😭
@noahlocke93026 ай бұрын
how quickly people forget...the bjerg slander feels so sad ngl
@billnye42136 ай бұрын
That was fun! Well done
@Kriskl6 ай бұрын
Good content. Not even a league player but this was fun and intriguing.
@nbisho016 ай бұрын
Need to get Azzap on one of these, he’s articulate and well informed
@ManHeIsAwesome6 ай бұрын
Corejj should stop running it down T1s game.
@Sch1eep6 ай бұрын
The goat of what? LMAO
@TeamLiquidLoL6 ай бұрын
Lcs.
@cedrichofstetter40576 ай бұрын
Core starting off talking about committing to NA talent and giving then time to improve (APA and Yeon ❤)
@Andres_di_Burg6 ай бұрын
When the emerald LoL fan is this smartest person in the room...
@ihellspawn6 ай бұрын
The new items need to get toned down for sure.
@onixtheone6 ай бұрын
Not sure why core is on there! That guy trolls in solo queue 😂
@TeamLiquidLoL6 ай бұрын
And you dont?!
@onixtheone6 ай бұрын
@@TeamLiquidLoL no actually I don’t 🤔
@shindoyhong36786 ай бұрын
i know someone will learking around here 💪👀😈
@Ejune66 ай бұрын
I don't like the part where they talk about the league community. They did not mention the in-game toxicity at all, which feels odd to me because you are essentially talking about a video game that people play.
@TeamLiquidLoL6 ай бұрын
We turn chat off. APA doesn’t
@coolkid15105ify6 ай бұрын
"DONT BE A SHEEP" lmao
@blackshields8096 ай бұрын
5x the ads of most channels
@rafaellee17196 ай бұрын
If Mayumi and Mayumo in the same video you have my like
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
Bjerg needed Doublelift to get trophies, while Doublelift didnt need Bjerg. Doublelift even helped 3 different orgs get trophies, while Bjerg failed hard the moment he doesnt have a TSM superteam. Lol. End of argument.
@Stavros_Polymeropoulus6 ай бұрын
Its the opposite, Bjerg startet winning from day 1 and he pushed Doublelift, you have it completely the wrong way around. Doublelift had the best teams over the years too so your arguments are pretty faulty. Also Bjerg was number 1 mid by far for atleast 7 years, where double wasns as dominant in his role.
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
@@Stavros_Polymeropoulus Bjerg started on a SUPERTEAM from Day 1. He got lcky TSM picked him cause they already Top 2 team in NA. Doublelift was 1 v 5ing every game for CLG carrying Seraph, Locodoco etc. bunch of trash, and end up giving his org the trophy, destroying Bjerg 3-0 at MSG himself with a beautiful penta. Before Bjerg begged for his help to join TSM. Doublelift has Bjerg and LCS in the palm of his hands. Its not even close.
@Stavros_Polymeropoulus6 ай бұрын
@@Nino-cv4dw bjerg almost always had worse teams than dl, don’t talk to me about 1 v 5ing Bjerg was literally inventing 1v5ing in the lcs, he was by far the best player in the league for 3-4 years straight and even considered among the top 5 best players in the world where double would be lucky to be in a top 20 you cannot compare the 2 even tho double has been insane as well, bjerg was just that much better.. btw Bjergsen lead tsm to an na all time greatest worlds performance when they went to quarterfinals vs ssw, like you are so lost if you think it’s doublelift
@Nino-cv4dw6 ай бұрын
@@Stavros_Polymeropoulus ‘Almost' means no. Idot. Bjerg jumped on a team with best in NA Dyrus, OddOne, Turtle and Lustboy. Doublelifts team has Seraph, Locodoco, Link, dexter and bigfatlp. You dont even know who the f any of them are. Rtad. Stop acting like its even close. Doublelift carried a 0 trophy org to the top. Bjerg hopped on an org that got LCS before him. Doublelift literally fk Bjerg upside down 3-0 with a penta at MSG, until Bjerg begged him to join TSM and you're here talking sht. LOL. Beat world champ Rookie, TheShy, JackeyL in BO5 to reach MSI Top 2 and you name some stupid ssw bullcrap. You a damn clown.
@mambaforever32396 ай бұрын
I think even Doublelift will tell you the GOAT is Bjerg 😂
@theexposedseacreature75946 ай бұрын
this is a cool video jubilee style thank you honda
@blackop9996 ай бұрын
Spica not being in the league is a sin
@kentuckyexplosion6 ай бұрын
Not to be a hater, but it's basically 40 minutes of people agreeing with each other, there were 2 questions that had some sort of debate, but not much.
@getinthebebop6 ай бұрын
your hate cannot be contained/:
@Minusculion6 ай бұрын
It’s not as if they knew beforehand that the questions they presented the players with were going to be all agreed with amongst the panel.
@NuclearSad6 ай бұрын
Celebrated inter CoreJJ
@Omilliyo6 ай бұрын
finally some good content
@AlenBarbul-h7i6 ай бұрын
Bro who are this randoms what this could have been such a good video