Teammates React to the Michael Pittman Jr. Injury | Zaire Takes Issue with Tom Brady's Comments

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[@deaddropholiday]

Brady criticizing Minshew. OK, I get it. But don't act like you never led Wes Welker or Edelman into being crushed by a DB. Because that's on tape.

[@Itsjustjoe064]

Those two whiteboys couldn’t make plays on the outside what made them valuable was going out and making those across the middle catches

[@whyumad2843]

Right though he didn’t complain when they got those flags i think he should of been ejected from the game for A lesson but not suspended for the rest of the season

[@deaddropholiday]

@@whyumad2843 It's his track record. Without it I don't think he would have been banned longer than a game. Got to be smarter.

[@marvinhunt8276]

​​​@@Itsjustjoe064 That's why Welker and Edleman were slots. Damn good ones at that. Josh Downs is a damn good slot receiver for the Colts as a rookie. He's going to be a beast. But what does white have to do with it? Surely you can do better than that. I don't judge skin tone. I judge character.

[@Itsjustjoe064]

@@marvinhunt8276 I just said white boys cause I didn’t feel like spelling out their names, nothing against white wide receivers but don’t let that cause you to miss my point… they would’ve never been great without going over the middle and being able to absorb those hits, and very rarely did they take bigs hits

[@NameTaken123]

Brady was just trying to gas himself up with his comments. QB's aren't 100% accurate and also can't know where every defender is on the field all of the time. Brady also threw plenty of hospital passes himself, so it's pretty hypocritical to be criticizing Minshew in this situation.

[@michellackiz3072]

Brady= Big ego ando his old

[@nahslimmoebobjoe3793]

I have no problem with violent hits. I have a problem with the intent. It’s clear that the defender had no intent of making a play on the ball and every intent to make a violent hit. Pittman is a DAWG just like his father was and the fact that he walked away from that play and looks to play in the next game should light a fire under the whole roster. #ColtsNation

[@christianwhatley7972]

He literally hit the ball...

[@nahslimmoebobjoe3793]

@@christianwhatley7972 Yeah, with his helmet.

[@christianwhatley7972]

@nahslimmoebobjoe3793 *shoulder. The only contact made with either of their helmets was accidental, Kazee visibly led with his shoulder and tried his best to keep his head out of the play.

[@DerrickJohnson-hl2iu]

I respect Ziare Franklin for having Minchew back his best back up QB 😂

[@charlesolson8054]

This is the best nfl pod done by active players...just happens to be my guys too! Go Colts!

[@NomadicBrian]

Good discussion on this topic. As a fan my gut reaction is toss this dude out To be fair a more in depth conversation is needed like this. I was surprised at the season suspension but still as a fan I was thinking he deserved it. Acting on emotions of course. Objectively a repeat offender and how many of those hits might cost a player a career. Set a number and be consistent. I also don't want touch or flag football I like a good hit.

[@bernechad]

Kinda same feels from me. But then to see tape of the dude getting fined multiple times for this same shiz all season, makes lean towards more agreeing with the season suspension(which is 3 games). I don't necessarily think he's headhunting or dirty, but a trend is a trend for a reason.

[@Luke-vk5xr]

Tom Brady is becoming more and more unlikable to me the more he keeps talking.

[@TroIIingThemSoftly]

"You play us twice a year" 😂😂 45 keepin it real.

[@zekegreen6455]

EJ Speed is kind of in the wrong on this. He just said “it happened in a second, he put his head down and closed his eyes and didn’t know where he was gonna land on the hit” that’s definitely what the nfl is trying to get rid of. That ball was almost uncatchable and safety put his head down and dove while Pittman was stretching.

[@JU57US]

Also in response to Brady... If the only way the DB can make a play is to crush a defenseless receiver, then the DB was already beat. He should have put himself in a better position to defend the pass. That's like saying in a basketball game a defender can just grab a guy about to dunk and throw him to the ground, and cop out by saying "what, was I supposed to just let him dunk?!" If you're beat and the only way you can stop being beat is to break the rules and endanger another player's health, then you're just beat. Period.

[@dernify]

Well said.

[@gooduserm.a.a.dinternet1228]

Physicality is and has always been a part of the sport, it’s just now being transitioned out of the sport lol you guys have no idea how many Troy palamalu plays would be penalties based on what you just said

[@dernify]

@gooduserm.a.a.dinternet1228 I watched Polamalu for his entire career. He wasn't the most physical guy to ever play, he just had a knack for finding the ball. Point is, players don't like having permanent brain damage when they retire just so guys like you can say "ooh, nice hit".

[@randyisjerry]

Love this pod guys! Cool seeing Speed and Zaire perspectives!

[@pmo710.]

Old Tom Brady has laid several of his receivers out to dry it’s documented. It’s on tape and it is what it is. Tom Brady needs to speed on like he’s been peed on.

[@marvinhunt8276]

Of course. It was all about himself. If they didn't try to catch those passes Brady was a crybaby that would yell at his receivers. It was all about padding his stats. And don't you dare tackle Brady in front of some of the refs. Flag flag flag. He was protected more by refs than his O'line. Period.

[@Luke-vk5xr]

This is one of the best takes I’ve seen on this topic

[@jimirsayssponsor5844]

The league is too much take not enough give. You can’t keep adding penalties to a sport without giving more freedoms in other aspects. Z if totally right, it’s going to become a different game. The rule changes and penalties are destroying the integrity of the game we all know and love… safety and fines are one thing…. But this hip drop bullshit is the beginning of the end if they end up going thru with it.. its a step too far imo

[@jeremyallison4859]

I agree 100% on them suspending the steelers player and I can't stand Tom Brady GO COLTS

[@christianwhatley7972]

His other fines were reviewed and taken back. All of them, but 1, were routine plays and bs fines to begin with. Look them up for yourself.

[@getsomemoney2433]

Kazee has had a long history of questionable hits even before this year in Pittsburgh that’s why he got suspended for the rest of the year. It was way more than just this hit or even his hits this season dude got penalized for his history

[@zuozhen4758]

Pittman is an absolute DOG! I love this man!

[@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe]

Lol these dudes need to stop making popcasts and start learning to stop the screen

[@colts1887ful]

Need to stay off the podcast focus on football defense getting torched my guy yall my team but work needs to be done

[@jordan-uo7vo]

Atp just make it flag football cause offense about to be alot to do whatever

[@W2Tymes]

Fine him, but he shouldn't be gone for the year.

[@JaySmith-cc4ok]

so I'm supposed to let him catch ball that's what he said

[@jessebluespncr]

Brady needs to chill on the QB talk. I personally think the NFL play is at an all time high, which is bringing “pocket qbs” back down to earth. Just because they want to eliminate the hard hits that lead to injury doesn’t mean the game has regressed.

[@godhelpus1055]

Always count on Tim to use 50 more words than he need to, when explaining sh**

[@ImThatGuy02]

Lol boah..

[@TroIIingThemSoftly]

Learn 50 more words then.

[@Amplifyrapzz]

Y’all are soft now

[@jonesyokc]

Brady was speaking from a QBs perspective and people should listen to him as if he were a coach. He is about as intelligent as it gets at the position. The hit was brutal. It didn't make me think the defender was dirty or anything. Looking at the play, I think the defender lacks situational awareness. The way he braced himself was almost like he was having an "oh shit" kind of moment. By the time he realize he did wrong, it was too late. I think you can position yourself to succeed or to fail, and I think (not intentionally) he positions himself to fail. You want to put a big hit on a guy to make sure he remembers you were there. You want to hit him hard enough to knock the ball out. You don't want to injure the guy. I just don't think the defender has learned how to position himself to legally inflict a hard hit. I'm not a defender, but it seems like it would be a real art to the position. Then again that is why you guys get paid the big bucks and I don't 🙂 I am glad Pittman is okay. That could have easily turned out much worse.

[@Clark910x]

Too much reverb

[@W2Tymes]

That "i touched the ball coach" commercial was never cool 😂😂

[@Coltspacerstalk]

I left a comment last week about how you boys need to stop someone and this last weekend you stood up and made them Steelers look like little boys keep it up y'all

[@jimirsayssponsor5844]

Aye Bros really snapped on this clip yall making too much sense 😂

[@CokeJilesMacLeod]

Wonderful conversation fellas….stay at it.

[@BlancoBen43]

Zaire podcast is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@brandonconsole3266]

You guys are hilarious 😂

[@big_dreko6159]

100000% agree with Zaire and everything he said. NFL is getting ridiculous with how slanted it is in offense favor. Especially the drop weight tackle, why tf is that even a conversation. That shit pisses me off. It’s always people who didn’t play the game fr trying to create rules

[@eva_pilot]

*the NFL so fuckin soft now* don't want to get hit like that then tell QB's to not throw those ball n tell WR to catch the ball different n run safer routes

[@bry1497]

Womp womp who cares nobody wants head injuries or cte they have families who cares nfl is changing deal with it stop complaining

[@eva_pilot]

@@bry1497 womp womp who cares nobody gives a fuck about their health or families, if we did we wouldn't b watch the NFL we'd watch a non contact sport like ping pong lol stop cryin about players safety n go buy some tampons lil girl lol

[@notoriousparker5116]

Bro that hit was dirty as fuck what you mean pit was in mid air coming down off the catch and dude hit him while his feet wasn't even on the ground yet all he had to do after he caught the ball is simply touch him and the play is over that type of hit is a straight in the streets beef we playin ball and you let your personal feelings get involved i tell you something to try jump in the air and let someone tackle you before you hit the ground and see is you gonna say the same thing afterwards if you are even able to get up from it nothing to do with being soft tf and after all of that my man pit is still good

[@eva_pilot]

@@notoriousparker5116 can u read? no one's talkin about if it's dirty or not, idgaf if it is, point is about how WRs n QBs need to take accountability n stop throwin unsafe balls there's a name for em for a reason "ambulance passes" n even HoF QBs know not to throw certain routes cuz it's dangerous for their teammates

[@bry1497]

@@eva_pilot Womp womp who cares nobody wants head injuries or cte they have families who cares nfl is changing deal with it stop complaining

[@primetech2659]

To say when Pittman laid out for the ball aye you can’t separate man from ball is crazy Pittman laid out cause your qb threw a bad ball 😂😂😂 I agree past plays of bro he should’ve be fined for but this was on the qb and wr and if it’s was your teammate on the other side y’all would feel differently not saying it was a crazy hit but that was on the offense tell qv throw a better ball

[@dernify]

It was definitely a hospital pass, but the DB had a decision to make. Play the ball or play the receiver. He chose to take the receiver's head off instead of going for the ball. Tell the defender to not be a dumbass next time. Most fans like the contact aspects, but don't like seeing malicious intent in tackles. You only feel the way you feel because you're likely a steelers fan. If the guy that got injured played for your favorite team, you'd feel differently. Especially if the guy that injured him had a reputation for that kind of bs.

[@bwilson21345]

Crazy how we can name so many players who played reckless, never got seriously hurt and still seem perfectly fine today. I think players have gotten significantly softer

[@NameTaken123]

I mean, we can also name players who played reckless and have permanent brain damage or are paralyzed.

[@bwilson21345]

@@NameTaken123 name em…

[@DannyNoonan74]

Darryl Stingley was paralyzed by a reckless player in Tatum.