UMVC3 Grand Finals GU Flocker vs AGE ChrisG - Final Round XVI Tournament

[@kameka221]

everyone saying that the morrigan fireball spam is cheap and easy should honestly try to do it in a tournament with the pros. Its no where as easy as you think, its one think to do a combo and its another to try to apply it

[@theshlohan]

9:40 THAT CAMERAMAN

[@JustFrame21]

ChrisG definitely has the Best Morrigan in the world. Who else can you name that's using Morrigan whose won as much as he has over the past year? How many other Morrigans made Top-8 at Evo? It's "not" cheap when you consider Morrigan is one of the Hardest Executing characters in the game, "possibly" hardest. When you accumilate what ChrisG does to win, it's an Execution and Strategical Wonder. Most people can't appreciate his gameplay because they can't get past the fireball zoning, Sad.

[@OrganicWolf19]

That machinery in ChrisG's head multiplies the alpha and omega brain waves letting him acquire a state of clear mind and high reflexes, allowing him to win every tournament at ease.

[@TheAmberFang]

That's like saying hitting headshots [with a non-automatic weapon] in a FPS is easy because all you do is point and click, when it's really more about positioning and predicting your opponent's movements, and perhaps more importantly, predicting how opponents will react to your presence. ChrisG doesn't just "soul fist spam." He uses the fireballs to control where and how his opponent can move and acts accordingly. I find it to be more dynamic than simply watching the same combo over and over.

[@YumYummiYum]

Morrigan:"Soul fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist! Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist!Soul Fist! Soul Fis-Soul Fist!"

[@OlAgony]

Hey Mr Spooky, Great Job with FR. Btw, will there be any uploads of games from pools?

[@RaveSault]

well... shit, now i just want Moons' videos to get me happier. Is there any more videos of Moons? i need my fix :(

[@EbonMaster]

Are you somehow implying that Flocker did that without lots of Morrigan practice? Or that he didnt get blown up by Chris' Morrigan when he messed up his soul fist inputs?

[@destropher]

Is a Zero on point part of Flocker's main team? His Zero seems to require more training, comparing this gameplay to the gameplay of PZ Mihe in Final Round 15.

[@noddingoutinmd6066]

sorry, i misunderstood what you said. what you're saying is true but dormmamu can cancel his dark matter (forward heavy i think) which is a projectile into his teleports to make them pretty safe. combine that with missles and he's got a pretty good, safe rushdown option.

[@KinetiK001]

Angelic, it was a 3-0 and also Chris's first match of the tournament

[@BrenxX90]

Is this the future of our Grand Finals?

[@shindean]

There's a good reason why they haven't, because there is no way around it. This would get soft banned within a year, but Max also said the games most likely to get an upgrade would be sf4 and umvc3. And then, there was one.

[@ThePhoenixWylde]

9:58 What Yipes is going on about, is ChrisG's match with Bubblan's (Zero/Vergil/Thor) team at RFD2013 UMVC3. Winners Bracket match which was cool to watch.

[@AvarusCantus]

When did Flocker get sponsored?

[@Noxalyz]

First major (I believe) with Flocker in a while and god damn he's in Grand Finals! Working on those loops be his 9 to 5 and he's definitely proved it.

[@noddingoutinmd6066]

it doesn't matter whos projectiles are better. what matters is that you say you hate chris g for the way he plays but fchamp plays the same exact way with dormmamu and you like him. how's that fair?

[@Yukari_MAiG]

Yep, I've definitely seen that since that's the one tournament I really like. Due to various reason (like Kurosu owns everyone). But thing like this barely happen anymore. D:

[@KinetiK001]

Fighting games are one of the only genres left that aren't casualized to shit. I might be elitist here but I used to be into other genres like FPS and music games but now those types of games are laughably easy as well. I don't have fun with easy-ass games, I play for the challenge, I guess that makes me "hardcore". If you play games just to pass time, that's cool. But don't punish the ones that want a challenge because you want to be "entertained". Tournaments matter, stream monsters don't.

[@sorakeyblade100]

Not to mention that Yipes once commentated on his own match while he was playing it.

[@SFhelper]

it already is and will continue to be, he's been playing the same team for a little over a year and people still can't beat it.

[@SinfulAkuma777]

The rain of soulfists with flight cancel plus the doppelganger hyper. It was ChrisG that discovered that and made Morrigan op. So nobody can't really call him a scrubb for using Morrigan since it was him that created the tech, no matter how much it burns us -_-

[@Trixdee]

SinfulAkuma777 Wasn’t Dieminion doing it before him?

[@jaysmith9088]

I saw nothing cheap in the video. Tournaments usually have clearly defined rules as they're playing for money, not fun. Here, let me teach you to play fighting games. If I was playing you and I noticed you were blocking a lot I would try to throw you. If I threw you 5 times in a row as you stood up('on wake up') and won, you might argue that it was 'cheap'. I'd tell you that I determined it was the best way to ensure I won. If there was money on the line, you can bet I'd try to win.

[@Affinity2412]

Description is incorrect, Spooky.

[@BaroqueBastard]

i agree, but u have to admit. All combofiend says when he commentates is "he should have done this" or "hes going to do this, pick him up" "How did he drop that combo?"

[@Darkpsyde213]

Everyone seems to keep focusing on Morrigan and her antics. I think Doom's assist is the real problem, and if people would focus more on sniping him or snapping Doom in and mixing him up that they'll have a much greater chance at defeating Chris and the MorriDoom shell in general. That may be easier said than done, but is it really very smart to waste all your time trying to avoid fireballs and missiles? Get rid of Doom and you no longer have to worry about catching a random missile on a confirm

[@johnnyblaze2882]

See I feel chris g is the most accomplished because he knows how to not limit himself to one play style. He knows when to play keepaway and when to rushdown. I hate when the community says hes all keepaway when that's so not the case. Im done.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Being the best morrigan is not "about the combo" is about the usefulness of the character and making a strategy that maximizes the win potential. ChrisG found it with zoning and spaming and a LOT of people hate on that but what? It is his strategy and is working super fine for him so why would he change it? It makes no sense, so therefore he is the BEST morrigan player in the world.

[@Stormy2021]

i see what you mean, but playing the game and analyzing/picking it apart is different. it's like real sports such as nfl/nba/mlb, there are plenty of analysts and commentators that aren't great at the game, but they can damn sure pick it apart for the viewers.

[@shindean]

Chris G's performances are based on a team that exploit the very worst of this game. Considering I've been following him since his teams used point and anchor Ryu and Ame, it's hysterical that you actually make a statement pronouncing his skill level as the absolute greatest in competition. The exact thing was said about Viscant by his followers, and then a patch came.

[@assman767]

yeah it sucks having no suspense about who's gonna come out on top but there were some sick matches that i'm glad i watched like that sick rayray fchamp match

[@Noxalyz]

Dude, that's like saying "Combofiend needs Spencer to play pro players" or "ClockW0rk needs Doom when he plays pro players" Or even "Justin Wong needs Wolverine to play against pro players". Just because someone uses their best character doesn't make them bad for it. Everyone will always have a character they are better with, and looking down on people who pick their best against the best is just foolish.

[@MultiKarmacharger]

Rushdown. Footsies. Zoning. Style. Long ago, in a better edition, all four tactics lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Astral Vision attacked. A while ago, The Monsters and I discovered a new Avatar. An old timer named efforts. And although his manifestation still needs some work, I believe that effort can save the world.

[@jaklyman]

This match is a prime example of why the problem isn't Morrigan, Its Doom's Missile assist. So many times Flocker got in, just to get stopped by the missiles. And Happy B-daying Doom isn't an option with them coming back either way. Morrigan without Doom assist is beatable by good players, the two together is just too much. I like Yipes advice on ending early with a snapback too to avoid the missiles, considering the guessing game Zero is on incoming he should force Chris to play that game.

[@TheJokerscene]

That isn't even close to a comparison toward this situation. In a 2D space where all you can do is move in a fixed pattern of directions, two of which are removed due to the reflect effect of morrigans super, it becomes insanely easy to catch any opponent. Someone with their eyes closed spamming the motions with jump variations could hit a target. He uses soul fist in the same way anyone else does: Spamming it from a distance and hoping it hits, chips, and runs the time out.

[@Imozart0341I]

He didn't discover or create that, it was in the Marvel bible ver 1 tip section for morrigan.

[@Aurkus23]

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say. Could you explain it to me?

[@Coady91]

Its like hate for ChrisG totally imploded on itself, it always used to be top comment hating on him, but he is just fucking winning over and over. So impressive it reversed the hate.

[@shindean]

"Viscant is just the best now. We'll just have to learn to deal with it." -anonymously short sighted, 2011

[@sg-hunter]

the biggest problem is morrigan gets meter in astral. also vergil has like 3-4 levels of mixup with swords and you are in constant blockstun.

[@navihey]

this morrigan is better than any other players' i have seen. Always fun to see Chris G play

[@Moe598]

yes, the execution necessary to those fireball loops consecutively is harder than it looks

[@SFhelper]

you can't even use that argument, the op characters all got picked up before; only chrisg can make use of the uniquely high skill cap of morrigan. he's been using the same team for over 18 months now, if you can't even copy it successfully at this point, don't complain about it being overpowered.

[@spacedoubt15]

Even Chris has demonstrated that the 3rd member of the team is pretty much up for grabs when he switched from Akuma to Vergil. Someone using Morrigan & Doom with Dormammu or Zero or Sentinel(?) could get results.

[@Strawberryriku]

We are playing Ultimate Marvel vs Morrigan at EVOOOOO!!! GET HYPED!!!!!!!

[@NOODLESOUP101]

There's Chrisg_fanclub and Chrisg's rent money. Who will be the third to make a fanclub after this?

[@jibikao]

Last time Chris G lost pretty bad is against Joker in a Canadian tournament or something. He did not know how to block that Ironman corner setup? I am sure he went home and figured that out later....

[@Mad77max77]

you can't compare Dormammu, who needs 3 motions to charge, and 1 more to release projectiles (unavoidable, I agree), to Morrigan, who can put 2 projectiles (so it makes it 4 in Astral Vision) on screen at the same time ! Noticing the incredibly high durability of her projectiles... that's broken !

[@Aurkus23]

Ahhh okay now I think I understand. I don't like the way he plays myself, I do remember the times of Ryu and Hawkeye, his skills are still undeniable. What I meant was he's the best right now, Chris G has been winning everything lately. The pros should of figured out this team by now, but still haven't. As for the patch, a guy I watch named Max says there aren't any patches planned for UMvC3 anytime soon.

[@scyfon]

You're missing the point. I'm not complaining that Chris G is winning. The man's gotta eat, and he does what he does best. I'm saying that as a spectator, HOW he does his best isn't very entertaining.

[@Sliq_tv]

I can't be the only one that thinks that Chris G.'s shit is incredibly compelling?

[@bodybuilder718]

Everyone feels the same as well. Every time i play, 100 percent of the time, dante and vergil or doom are on the squad, gets cheesy, that's why i add those who use different characters to my friends list, more fun and more talent to see.

[@Mad77max77]

because I've seen Champ using his Phoenix team more times than his Dorm team... In other words : he switches team !!! he's much more hype to watch, because Dormammu is much harder to keep alive that Morrigan. His teleports are really not safe, he must open his guard 3 times before releasing the meteorites, and you can't rush down with him like she does, even covered with Doom's missiles, he's harder to play.

[@zoidbergnoise]

I love how nowadays I don't even watch these damn tournaments. All I need to see is Chris G is in the top, I flip it to the end, notice he wins and I leave. I'm just too used to it.

[@marthlhant7960]

"Chris g is working hard" ... Yeah I'll bet he breaks a real sweat picking vergil and doom.

[@yeeitsross]

If it was so easy, I wanna see you post a video doing it. :)

[@ThirtyfourEC]

different team, different time. hold on to that win if that's all you have.

[@ISM_KITSUNE]

why is fred armisen coaching chris g?

[@mymom1234]

Arthur and Firebrand also gain meter AND they get to keep their transformation when tagged out.

[@Imozart0341I]

what morrigan tech he discovered?

[@GinkgoPete]

Only the Avatar mastered all characters. Only he could stop the ruthless ChrisG. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A year has passed and ChrisG is nearing victory at EVO2013. Some people believe that the Avatar was never reborn, and that the cycle is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Avatar will return to save the FGC.

[@XNDL44]

For some reason I feel that the answer to the Chris G problem can be found in the low tiers

[@Carnax6969]

Well I guess we'll be seeing you at evo this year to show us how to beat ChrisG, 'cause it seems you've figured him out and apparently to you, everyone else is weak.

[@antonioallison2754]

Chris G is just a beast with that team. He's definitely tough to beat.

[@Mad77max77]

I said : "rush down like she does" it's easier to rush with Morrigan because the opponent is in complete block state because of her Soul Fists, the other one coming from the Astral clone, and the Missiles... Dormammu can rush down, I know, but he has not as much cover as her to protect him, it's more risky, I respect that.

[@Noxalyz]

People hate ChrisG because they can't be mindless and mash the assist button while mashing 2 attack buttons. They got to think, and I guess not many people can think quick enough to match the speed of this game, which is why ChrisG wins so much. While they take time trying to think, ChrisG is playing the game in slow motion. He usually wins before we see he does.

[@Redgohan147]

Really? Because the 2 games you mentioned probably had the most controversy behind them, plus Sfxt was rather busted before. Ryu and Rolento's jab pressure was synonymous to the bullet hell found here.

[@EvilRyuWins]

So this is how a fighting game dies. With thunderous applause.

[@jackalhunt1]

Because he wins. People will always hate on the guy who wins constantly.

[@Jackthetattedone]

@kev mcrock you forgot vergil and zero. There's a lot of top tier guys, its the opponents job to fight em

[@TheAmberFang]

Man, now I'm remembering why I unsubbed from TeamSpooky. It's not because ChrisG wins all the time. It's because the comments on all of the videos are just people complaining about how ChrisG plays Morrigan/Doom. I personally find Zero and Vergil to be really stale but I'm not ragging on anyone who plays (and is successful) with those characters. Hell man, get used to the meta or quit the game people. Whining doesn't change anything, only winning does.

[@ObadiahtheSlim]

Join us next time on ChrisG's Rent Money.

[@amoblack9845]

Who beat chris g and sent him to losers in this tournament?

[@Monty2289]

That's true but you can tell in the commentary. Consider how Chris reset the bracket so easily its almost like he put himself in Losers to get blood flowing enough to care about Grand Finals because this was boring. But he is indeed badass at this game.

[@ObadiahtheSlim]

Join us next time on ChrisG's Rent Money Show.

[@elstreetfighter]

Its like if you have to race someone for $50,000 and you can pick any car you want. Are you going to pick the fastest car or the one you like the most. You can pick the car you like but, just prepare for the work you're going to have to put in to beat the faster car.

[@teamspooky]

fixed thank you

[@Mad77max77]

I think you're wrong, just look at the moment where he looses his Morrigan against a Morrigan/Doom team (around 18:00 in this video) and see how disoriented he is ! He's not that good, that's his team that is doing all the work for him ! I'm not saying that it needs no skills, but he picked the only character (but Joe) that can spam that much, the easiest character to "Touch of Death" anyone (Doom) and of course Vergil (even if he's not that good with him, yet. He plays him like I play him)

[@Randomguynumber39291]

Why don't you show up to tournies instead of commentating from behind the computer? Let's see how well you do. Use the same name and tell us which tournament you're entering. We don't mind waiting.

[@AguyNamedHorse]

I enjoy watching chris G play, if you think his camping is bad, you should see top Super smash bros brawl players play, That shit will piss you off even when your not playing, now that shit is irritating.

[@chimpmasterflex]

If only Fanatiq just beat Chris instead of throwing it away, we might've had an interesting grand finals

[@TheBluAndGold]

What's really cools is that Chris G had to work his way from first rounds losers pool all the way to grand finals and he took it 6-0.

[@ObadiahtheSlim]

Join us next time on Chris G's Rent Money Show.

[@aznxknight]

It's not MorriDoom that needs a nerf. It's Chris G that needs a nerf.

[@WawaSC]

A good example on what it is to be on the "Next Leve",

[@aBagOfMilk37]

What if... AGE Fanatiq just took a dive so he wouldn't expose some tech that can beat ChrisG's morrigan/doom team?

[@ragnarokhellfire]

Chris G starts winning everything with morridoom. Life happens One year later, get back into Umvc3. Chris G still winning everything with morridoom.

[@itsloosey]

This man is a genius, and I have just the team to do it, he pulls in doom assist, I have level 3 charged buster from zero and ironman unibeam assist, and hopefully catch him in a heavy damage combo.

[@yeeitsross]

ChrisG is the only person that uses fireballs to confirm hits and actually do combos.

[@ClearSmoke100]

not hard to cover the screen with fireballs and heat seekers forcing the person to block while building meter to repeat the process over again.

[@jackalhunt1]

Rapid flight into flight cancels with forward DP. Add in the fact that the other guy will be looking for any opportunity to cross you up, wake up super ect. If FChamp says that this takes skill then who are you to argue? (Hell he gave up after a few minutes of trying)

[@SinfulAkuma777]

For your info mister 'gamer', it was ChrisG that discovered and made Morrigan op so no one can say that ChrisG is a cheap ass player. By the way, he just doesn't spam fireballs he predicts the opponent and acts accordingly. Besides, even if you kill Morrigan you have Doom and Vergil to deal with, and trust me that ChrisG isn't only a one-trick pony with Morrigan... You can ask Justin Wong what happened at Texas Showdown tournament...

[@RenzyTheGreat]

Chris G is like the Lebron James of Marvel right now, alot of ppl don't like him or his play style but god damn is he dominant

[@sasuke2910]

9:39 Do you see it?

[@RemyBeast]

I don't think people understand, the same way a person has the right to give props, a person has the right to hate. It's called opinion, so if someone likes the MorriDoom stuff, so what? And if someone hates the MorriDoom stuff, so what? For some reason people are defending hardcore and jumping on anyone that isn't afraid to be honest and say that don't like the game play. Stop trying to play savior. Chris G doesn't need one.

[@SplashBeatsStudios]

You know as a kid when I fought my older brother in Street Fighter, I always used to just back up and shoot Hadouken. I did it because I was bad at the game. I did it because I had no REAL skill to fight him seriously. I did it because I sucked. Chris G is a smart player, but his play style sucks.

[@fhqwgads5000]

I ain't even mad at ChrisG.... I'm more furious with everyone else for being unable to figure something out. Especially since the dude listed all of the weaknesses in the art of lame.

[@jaysmith9088]

omg almost didnt look but I'm glad i did! That's a hell of a face he's making while taping!!!

[@alorian347]

I feel like this is a top comment in pretty much any match ChrisG is in.