TEARING APART this Jasminer X4 1U Ethereum ASIC Miner...

[@RedPandaMining]

Smash that LIKE let me know what you guys want me to test on this.

[@lutherkirkland]

Love that instead of hooking it up, you tore it apart!

[@lutherkirkland]

5gb Vram is a gamble in itself, curious if there is a way to upgrade

[@abdulmuhaimin5274]

I wonder if replace from a huge heatsink into 9 CPU pump reservoir combo to get a better hash rate performance. Imagine

[@---__000]

Ok. Here are all chips...

[@qudrat89]

Don't u think its cloud mining and they had to show something to sell... To get that high amount off money back

[@DkGrRo]

Funny when ETH claims that are close to POS, suddenlly more asic miners are available on the market :))

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

And why the fuck are people buying them :/

[@Helie3332]

@@Yor_gamma_ix_bae most of them can still mine ETC after POS correct me if i'm wrong.

[@ryanshahir1733]

@@Helie3332 your right

[@POWistheway]

@@Yor_gamma_ix_bae to mine etc

[@antscape]

@RETRO PHIL unless classic pumps. It has in past

[@TswiftCrypto]

Please test disabling fans when mining on it to see if it thermal throttles like any normal gpu or asic would or if it continues to display the same hash rate. Too many red flags on this thing (like why does it take 30 minutes of spooling up time before it can mine?) point to it being a cloud mining scam

[@SavageBits]

The 30 min spool up seems really odd when I first heard about this. Possible the hardware takes that long to build the diag due to the asic chips being 100% optimized for the single purpose of running Dagger Hashimoto algorithm. Maybe diag build requires the slow central fpga in the middle? The asics chips themselves look legit at first glance. No red flags from the tear down.

[@thomasg1042]

Well, if you have cpu mined. Sometimes it takes a while for the program to find the optimal clocks. It was that way when i mined raptorium. It stores optimal clocks for your setup in a jason file so your rig works best with what you have.

[@noel.sk03]

There are People that are already mining with this thing and cashed out... so this thing is not a scam.

[@johnbalvin5401]

@@noel.sk03 isn't that how scams work? First people get in cash out but people later loose their money

[@Nisse977]

My Jasminer gets lower hasrate when the ASIC chips är getting hot (seems like it start throttles if they go abow 40C)

[@babyklinkert]

why intake fan -1 ?

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

Wow I’m actually impressed by how neat that looked inside. Can’t wait for your coming videos on this! 🤩

[@Josh-wc4qt]

Dude it’s a cloud mining scam….

[@SebsFinTechChannel]

@@Josh-wc4qt let's see what he finds

[@Josh-wc4qt]

@@SebsFinTechChannel he needs to unplug the fans and see if it thermal throttles, I recon it wont and if it doesn’t it’s a scam. This machine is almost 2x as efficient as the A11 asic, sorry but these figures ain’t possible.

[@totalbullion5882]

@@Josh-wc4qt I also heard they can only mine on Jasminer's pool, seems sketchy.

[@madamada2038]

memory upgrade wil be possible on this asic? that will be nice :D

[@lukefuno]

So do you need an external power supply to connect it?

[@lax0112]

Have you attempted a RAM upgrade? or some means of mining ZIL ?

[@danielkerberus]

what is the size of the fans?

[@georgemantzouranis4572]

Super cool but too little memory. What block does Ethereum classic hit before the dag file is too big for this?

[@Sincerit]

Can you block none related traffic and see if it still works?

[@MrStarpeto]

Where are the memory modules?!

[@hkcitation]

These Asic companies wouldn't sell to the home miners until now when they are worried the miners will be worthless in afew months potentially.

[@ronwatkins5775]

Do you know if there are ASIC's for algo's such as FLUX or ERG?

[@BlackCoinCrypto]

No. Flux has said that they would fork if an asic was ever created and Ergo i think shifts algorithms.

[@derek2593]

Awesome! Between this miner, and one of their bricks, I am averaging 645 mh/s on hiveon pool. But, if you're not using f2pool, the miner doesn't report Hashrate. So, you have to get your reporting from the pool.

[@robertweintraub5418]

Do you know what power supply on Amazon would be compatible with the x4-1u? My unit won't power on at all and I think it may be the power supply.

[@georgeclause6538]

Why did you blur out part of the screen when showing the chips at approximately 7:30 ish in the video ?

[@cuma666]

covered his face

[@simonpeter9617]

is the price good?

[@chrisgtrMining]

U doing another after it’s back up

[@llzz8152]

Each ASIC chip has 5GB memory in their own shining package. The 2 micron dram on the board is for other purposes. Amazing stuff!

[@patrikjankovics2113]

Yeah, most likely, no other way of achieving that high memory bandwidth than having on-die memory.

[@robertu]

Spartan-7 = 28nm FPGA ZYNQ = 28nm ARM Cortex-A9 SOC

[@dennisfahey2379]

Correct - I could not make out the name on the ASICs. Also its weird to see exposed dies with thermal compound. Perhaps they are encapsulated. Pretty big chips though.

[@anythingbutASIC]

@@dennisfahey2379 those where no name but where probaly custom silicon slabs.

[@candr0idcrypto383]

It's nice to finally see some proper rack mount stuff.

[@JoaoCSpeixoto]

I'm the only one that can't enter the website because my asus router antivirus block it?

[@andrewblack6151]

can please do a comparison of 24 hour period of mining eth and etc with eth being pos only soon super worried to buy one of these

[@Lyu98Boston]

Can Jasminer X4 do oil cooling?

[@cnminer2084]

I think you can find your answer on my video about how to make the JASMINER 1U be quiet.

[@ColinHarrington]

Why would you need that intense airflow (10 loud fans) to cool only 240 watts? Something doesn't add up... 23 watts per chip? You're telling me a company can engineer ASIC chips that blow everyone else out of the water, but not handle the thermals? If it did require intense localized heat extraction, you'd be looking at heat pipes and really not that much for 240watts. You have 3090s that dissipate more heat. The innards look like: an FPGA board, an internally mounted PSU, 2 banks of 40mm fans, a custom chip board with 2x PCIe 6pin power connectors and some communication with the FPGA board. It smells like a scam to me. I'm interested in the network traces too

[@MCtomgie]

Those fans take more wattage than the claimed usage of the chips lmao

[@avinraikwar3650]

its a server rack designed to work in extreme server conditions and temps , and such slime device cannot use typical 120mm fans and small fans need high rpm to achieve same air flow , even its 23W per chip total will be around 180w but in harsh conditions it can be challenge to cool them not everyone live in typical room temp 25c some time ambient temp for such devices can cross 50c and keep is cool will result in stable operation and milling a aluminum block is cheaper than heatpipe setup.

[@ColinHarrington]

​@@avinraikwar3650 Yes, the banks of 60mm fans are the right choice for a 1U chassis. The original Pentium chips had a TDP of up to 18 watts and were easily overclocked (roughly equivalent to that 23w mark). Pentium 1s ran great with only a small passive heat sink the size of that chip. This application has 8 chips with a heat sink that is much more massive with much more surface area and with excessive air flow. My point is that the cooling solution doesn't fit the low distributed power usage of these chips. There wouldn't be any reason to have them screaming just to cool 23watts per chip at normal ambient temperatures.

[@bbokip2138]

it draws 270w from wall on 225 mhz ....

[@anythingbutASIC]

The scam is the asic manfacutres altogether. Bitmain Canaan and Innosilicon COULD have made a miner like this but they would not have been able to continue selling just slightly upgraded models of the same thing.. Now all of those companies are taking thier millions and making A.I. chips with "real world" compaines and leaving the cypto industries in shambles..

[@syedsuhailahmed991]

Wow that looks ossum 450 MHz for $5000 & ur amazing in explaining. Please can you show how to set it up as well so that it will be helpful for the viewers

[@bbokip2138]

it has only web interface which You connect via IP and web browser on PC in same network, enter pool address and that is basically it...

[@davedismantled]

Hmmmm, for the kind of money those things are, they could have put redundant ethernet and perhaps a USB port for flashing or whatever.

[@anythingbutASIC]

nahw that would give people more of a vector to reverse engineer these and make their own.

[@MMOStars]

RIP ETC difficulty 2022.

[@MaxResDefault2600]

Any chance you can try liquid metal on the 8 ASIC cores and see how much that improves hashrate?

[@ThermalWorld_]

25W Chip with liquid metal My GPU, Hold my 250W 😹

[@konstantine381]

it would make it cooler sure but wouldnt improve the hashrate

[@ZyxEd2525]

Wow that's so cool to see, such a large circuit board with a lot of GPU dies! Thanks for voiding your warranty for this experience! 🥰

[@ag4391]

It was sent to him FREE for the review!

[@en4ble773]

Someone figure out how to add extra 1gb of ram :)

[@bigbangmining5878]

at last someone tearing apart this miner.. thanks RPM..

[@mastorga1]

I have mine on the way, few weeks ago they had stock, now they seem to be backordered.

[@madelectronengineering]

Panda is getting technical, I love it!

[@TechBuild]

Will the rise in these ASICS in ETH mining drive out some GPU miners?

[@ExoticsMining]

I love that you caught the almost showing your face🤣🤣🤣

[@GodRob]

This is very interesting. So it looks like Xilinx (recently aquired by AMD) is making the central chips and maybe all of them too.

[@zhengwang7050]

Still wondering how it works. A key part of Eth mining is memory speed. That’s why fpga doesn’t work well in eth. And gpu need to have gddr6 or gddr6x to get good numbers. Either case consumes much more power than 23w.

[@MichaelBr]

I look forward to seeing it working

[@ramondiaz9886]

6 months mining 10 of this 👌🏻 efficient as F 😂😂😂😂 and is killing it on etc ( testing ) 4 weeks

[@bradcreighton8141]

Sweet, I will switch to ETC closer to 2.0 merge. Been running X4 for a couple of months also. Efficiency is nuts..

[@lenochod7950]

They should have advertised these machines two years ago. Now it`s just a cashgrab for them as the end user will not only never ROI but due to rising ETC network difficulty once ETH moves to PoS be forced to sell them on eBay for cheapo €500 a pop 😝

[@Tachi778]

the only question is why you need so powerful and loud cooling system for just 260 watts with that low power dissapation you can use just one array of those fans at just 50% power, it will decrease the noise a lot without decreasing cooling performance

[@cnminer2084]

I think you can find your answer on my video about how to make the JASMINER 1U be quiet.

[@simracingcockpit]

If these turn out to be legit I'm going to wake up kicking myself every morning for a long time

[@DRapfelschorle]

yeah, me too...

[@JRTheElectronicGuy]

I want one so bad just can’t afford the outrages price lol Good video though buddy from Barrie Ontario Canada

[@markw496]

I can say now this will take a long time to ROI and the risk involved since it is hard to resale for other uses. They are probably selling now before the new gpus hit the market. Smart on them.

[@AliveInRap2k12]

big ups for opening it champ... can you tear appart any xilinx product? thanks in advance :)

[@dennisfahey2379]

Anyone recognize the name on the ASICs? That is significantly lower power for the performance. I see "Made in China" and a stylized "Sunilune" I think. I have no data on the part. Could be proprietrary of course.

[@CookingWithXpsZero]

Maybe do the test first then the tear down second. Waiting for the next video

[@kelvinespinosa1430]

i bet the asics units are XILINX VIRTEX chips

[@anythingbutASIC]

Right they look like slabs of Ultrascale+

[@wbboy1925]

Avid watcher, from years ago had to make a new account. Just want to point out that the one that you have @RP is the 520 mhz one to up to 600 megahash

[@Accord9669]

Should get thermal paste sponsor😂😂

[@brianwalker8792]

damm bro very good video and nice circuit, have you a detailed photo that you can show the memory numbers and model of that micron??, i'm very curious about what that kind of miners have a very few memory thanks!!!

[@4evermetalhead79]

Daaaaamnnn! Thanks Panda! Much love and appreciation for doing this! 👍🏼 Was VERY curious to see the insides of this.🎉 Those XILINX are RISK processors if i remember well and are programmable! (The second is ZYNQ not ZYNO) Similar to FPGA they execute processes flawlessly but are much much lower spec than a full blown FPGA processor. Did a bit research lately on XILINX as i had a machine with one and i had to fix it. 😬🤘🏼

[@CryptoMykel]

Your On The Right Track Fam! 😜👍

[@edwardmclean5373]

"Red Panda Miner's Nexus" 😉 Thanks for the tear down! 🤘😎

[@ChumpChangeXD]

Your Nuts LOL Love it

[@xpim3d]

I asked you about this one about a month ago! Should I take credit for this giveaway?! 🤔🤔:p

[@gwnm1776]

Thanks for showing us all the chips inside. Very interesting. Also enjoyed the snap screw removal. Still think some of your FE cards could rival or beat the screw count here though. Will be great to see packet deep dive and this running on ETH. Checked the website and they don't mention ETH just ETC and other small ones.

[@Gapped86]

What a great video, you did what everyone needed and no one did. Take my like👏🏻 Can’t wait to see what experts have to say about this.

[@lawas99]

Thanks for sharing!

[@yukotakaeda4163]

glad to see original powersupply, not fake japanese style 80 plus 🤣🤣🤣

[@juggernautz]

Jasminer ASIC chips are the future, low power, good hash rate and they print $$$ so we can build a stack. Will other companies follow suit and build asic miners like this, hope so and I hope they build a BTC version. I'd prefer a taller case with larger quieter fans but its not a negative. I have a gun cabinet that can be fitted with sound mat or pads, jasminer has something similar on their YT page but I think its a server case. Interesting warranty violating fun!!

[@eusufhasan7229]

Nice product

[@georgeries]

Amazing Vide RPM! 🐼 ohhhh this miner got me wet! 😂

[@MochaDookie]

I’d get this if there was any chance of receiving it soon :(

[@blazey817]

is this a fake??

[@bbokip2138]

i have it for 4 5 months now, mining and cashing on ethermine, 520mhs average with 270w from wall.... dunno what it is doing but then...also dunno what graphic cards is doing too :)

[@axellarsson3461]

FPGA for Dagger Hashimoto isn't magic, I worked for a ASIC startup in 2014-2015 and we toyed with the idea back then. The problem was always that development, board, tapeout cost etc. made it impossible to sell miners at a profit with ETH at sub $50. At $1k+ FPGA is wildly profitable (as proben by RIP Squirrel, even though they just scratched the surface). Now does that mean this is a good product.. no. But could it be done for the money with grey market FPGA.. NO DOUBT

[@TechHustler]

Interesting

[@maleksameh]

Can you please Zoom in memory chip please ?

[@simonpeter9617]

doubt about its durability, still vote for GPU

[@jaimdiojtar]

insane charging 5 thousands for this

[@Akbar.yasrebi]

Thanks👍

[@BitKing_Ross]

I was very much looking forward to this video. 👏🏼 thank you Red

[@ogChaaka]

14,000 $ piece of hardware _lets tear it apart!_

[@alexluzinki206]

Xilinx is now part ofAMD (:

[@ag4391]

Thanks for sharing this great content, I am a bit disappointed with the size of the VRAM. Don't they read and realize that soon this will potentially be a door stop! For $5K I would expect at least 16GB to 24GB of VRAM.

[@strikerhitter]

Jasmine website advertise this miner for $9,000. I agree with you. They should have added at least 12 gb of RAM. I'm disappointed.

[@oa4738]

U just mine etc after. U don't need 12gb for etc dag

[@ag4391]

@@oa4738 For now, like all other coins the DAG will grow and you will have an expensive door stop or boat anchor

[@simonpeter9617]

like vps mining termnials , scame suspicious ?

[@blackmennewstyle]

I'm surprised it does not come with the illegal "Warranty void if remove" sticker lol So this is the kind of specialized hardware which will take-over ETC network hash-rate once ETH goes to POS, GPU don't stand much chance against those :$ Only good news (as a GPU miner) is the price, pretty brutal despite the incredible efficiency... P.S.: Illegal sticker at the end of the video, oops lol

[@SpuriousECG]

Two chips of Micron memory doesn't add up to 5GB, something fishy seems to be going on with that. I'd like to know what product number they have. Micron does make fast memory for FPGA but they seem to come in 2GB or 4GB modules.

[@anythingbutASIC]

those where more like 512mb for the Zynq and 1GB for the spartan. I'm interesed as to why they needed 2 FPGA's in this system..

[@automattikbeats]

Awesome thanks for the great content!!

[@johnbalvin5401]

eth2.0 will be soon this won't work anymore

[@beboH4o]

1000usd taxes to buy this shit abroad lol

[@anythingbutASIC]

You might be better off building your own at that point.

[@vac59]

looks like console chips that didn't get passed certification lol

[@anythingbutASIC]

CCCCCHina

[@RNG-999]

Bro this can't be real

[@Walker956]

You're tearing me apart lisa.

[@alexpetrov9911]

Just make better pictures, I will help you yo identify all chips

[@bobafett64]

I hope ethash coins for off the asics. Asics are just bad for miners. ETC should do this before ETH goes to POS, or else with all the asics on ETH coming to ETC, ETC will be totally asic dominated. And that is not a good thing.

[@anythingbutASIC]

No it not.. thanks for noticing.

[@enzymebp]

Payments only via crypto with a 30-day lead time. Pretty risky

[@cwsong]

I think it's a fake "ASIC" ETH miner machine, the Xilinx FPGA chips acturally in charge of ETH algorithm.

[@konstantine381]

u didnt censor ur face properly bro looool

[@tae-hoonkim1292]

The product is found to be a scam. Too bad seller is not reachable as well.

[@noahwhipkey6262]

got my mining cave server case and 4gb 580s running yesterday. ETC ETC ETC ETC. it is loud and i had one gpu unlock the core and run hot. dont know why though. why you all buy my Mystic Mining cases, THE DAY BEFORE I GET PAID. now i gotta buy another case, for the rest of these 580s, and maybe i will pick up 4 of a special card which i WILL NOT NAME. thanks, GL.

[@alibizhangi5226]

whole

[@bentbodies6455]

enjoy the paperweight

[@truth12340]

RED PANDA ? THATS BAD IT WILL BE USELESS AFTER 2.0 WHATS THE POINT OF BUYING IT

[@sofianleleu2561]

ETC

[@draconightwalker4964]

this thing smells fishy

[@andreab5185]

Ridiculously overpriced