Tears For Fears' LinnDrum (Ep2)

The Behringer team are on a mission to revive a piece of history, the Tears For Fears' LinnDrum classic drum machine.

[@AllyKiss18]

You cannot comprehend how long many of us have wanted a Linndrum, this is a huge huge moment, I’ll get this the day it comes out.

[@xonnathagreat7644]

FACTS😍

[@MCBrainpower]

Maximum Facts 🔊🔊 - I actually owned one signed by Roger Linn 🏆

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

@@MCBrainpower How did you get it? Why you don't own it anymore?

[@alfredocamba1995]

You will be in the que for it backordered about 24 months

[@lifelovesme1428]

They all need to be remade!!!

[@thomaskolb8785]

Behringer actually made me return from software to hardware once more. I couldn't be more pleased.

[@dknstrkt]

Truth. Making my childhood fantasies come true. I LOVE YOU BEHRINGER!

[@thomaskolb8785]

prod. JWAV You must have a lot of friends

[@ebeep]

If Behringer makes their version, it would be an instant purchase for me. I NEED one.

[@mordaciousfilms]

YES! I want that. I would love more drum machine "versions".

[@dictabeat]

Yeheeeeessss!!!! Finally! The beginning of a Behringer Linndrum remake. BehrLinn Drum?

[@jethrokarsters9125]

Creative name. I hope this gets pinned eventually!

[@iqi616]

Better than BinnDrum! :)

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

That. Was. BRILLIANT!!!!

[@toitoitoy]

Best name

[@ebeep]

Better than LinnBehrger ;)

[@runner442001]

All the gear was stored in a barn on a farm near to Rolands studio. I remember having a hell of a time trying to find items for Roland back in the 90's

[@CLaw-tb5gg]

I really hope this means there’ll be a Behringer LinnDrum because I want one baaaaaad

[@briancoyne6700]

Call Bruce Forat in Los Angeles. He built that machine himself in the 80s. He can diagnose it for you over the phone. He's the leading expert on The Linn.

[@MCBrainpower]

Brian Coyne Nice!!

[@925audio7]

He also customizes it . He does excellent work.

[@Zton-yn4kc]

I still need to repair mine

[@isophluxproductions]

I use to love just stopping by his studio & workshop just to chat with Bruce. Super talented and nice guy!

[@lrcb40]

Norm Leete is in Wotton-Under-Edge and can fix it!

[@k1ttyF158er]

I really hope a quality (no corners cut) version of this comes out! --- One things I gotta say though... The FIRST thing I would do if I was powering up a Tears for Fears drum machine would be to PRESS PLAY and see if any of those famous patterns are still in it.

[@synthartist69]

I love you Behringer, this is a machine I would die for. Love the sound and the layout. Add tuning to all instruments including clap. I hope you build it!

[@starkickermusic2100]

Yes yes yes yes! Very excited for a Barringer Linndrum!!!!

[@peterldelong]

First rule on vintage gear like this: buy a variac and an AC ammeter to protect the magic smoke.

[@beatz04]

Corona this, Corona that, doesn't change the fact we NEED a Behringer Linndrum !

[@taylorh4480]

"Songs From The Big Chair" is such a brilliant album. the world they sculpted with these sounds is unmatchable. just 🤯

[@gilwe]

Best drum machine of all times!

[@acdnrg]

The rebuild needs two USB Ports: One for a computer when you want it (the usual type B) - the other one (type A) for one of those tiny, non protruding USB sticks... Maybe that second port should be under the hood, so you get that vintage feeling when swapping sounds... just kidding.

[@co.agmusic]

Brilliant video thanks and incredible Machine

[@hardlines2635]

Prince made best use of the LinnDrum.

[@MCBrainpower]

Ray Ray actually the LM-1 but yes he was a Linn Hendrix

[@softlightsymphonyband]

MCBrainpower Prince drew inspiration from a very unlikely source: he was on record expressing his fascination with the percussion sounds of the Cocteau Twins who used a number of the early drum machines and did unheard of things at the time(early eighties) such as run them through guitar amps and other things that left engineers shaking their heads. Prince was so enamored of their sound and the distinct production of Robin Guthrie that he tried to sign them to his label.

[@cuerampart2886]

@@softlightsymphonyband wow! I never knew that. CT rule

[@pkarvo]

Love this series!!! I want a Berlinn Drum now! Make sure it goes 12 bit 33k, want those gritty drum sounds

[@kannon3979]

Berlin Drum 🥁

[@ingoodmusic]

Please, include all ROMs into your clone

[@plk173]

yes, esp the unreleased alternative ones. Its so hard to find original samples of the percs form shout

[@andinbriwel1092]

Special TFF edition available 😜

[@plk173]

@@egorbebreev do you know the difference between a Rom dump and a sample pack

[@bobthesalesclerk]

"unwanted" If you clone this I wouldn't mind a "funkiness" control knob lol

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

You’ll have to resurrect Prince for that.

[@jokkeloco]

ÿou mean a swing knob

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

jokkeloco das nasty 😬😆😆😆😆

[@fortheloveofnoise]

@@jokkeloco no, different thing entirely

[@RJJNY]

@@WrvrUgoThrUR He preferred the LM-1 I think.

[@Wolfie99]

Awesome! Love watching these....and the LinnDrum just sounds so good. I want one...(or one just like it! ;-)

[@tojorozombie]

So many songs from my youth originated here! Fascinating stuff!👍😎

[@McAntichrist]

Those weird tom artifacts sound kind of sweet TBH

[@jjgabbana]

Ty Mc right?!

[@4U2BU]

You're not wrong.

[@muziqthecat3783]

I want to sample them! Meow!

[@JamBurglar]

Being that some of us end up having to repair and troubleshoot our own gear, these videos are priceless!

[@MrToonfish]

Ahhhhh my gosh this will be my next music buy for sure ! The linn was a legendary machine.

[@ErikHawk]

Wow, drool! That is amazing. What a piece of history. Can't wait to hear what Behringer does with this!

[@Dwilly132]

Linn drum will be my second Behringer purchase. I imagine it will look great next to my Deepmind 12D!

[@dep1001]

Lovely! Those two first TFF albums are just masterpieces!

[@theboofin]

The first version, the LM-1 is the proper one used by more artists. With the great ability to radically retune each drum. That was used by more famous artists such as Prince etc. The LinnDrum was a more cost effective version with less features.

[@MusicFed]

Not at all. The Linndrum was used by tons of famous artists around the world. It’s as “proper” as you need it By the way Prince used the Linndrum too, although more frequently associated with the LM-1 Also, The LinnDrum in some ways was better than the LM-1: the addition of crash and ride cymbal samples, five external trigger inputs and the ability to replace built-in sounds with new sounds on EPROM chips. The LinnDrum sampled sounds from 28 to a 35 kHz sample rate

[@79Glitch]

You couldn’t be MORE wrong. The Linn Drum was THE sound of the 80’s: everyone, almost literally everyone, used the Linn Drum. The LM-1 was much more rare, on the other hand. There were only a few hundred made, and the price was way out of reach for everyone besides a few of the biggest artists (Prince, Peter Gabriel) and major studios. There’s a reason Prince’s drums stand out so much as “his” sound: there are very few popular records that had a LM-1 on it. The sound of the first half of the 80’s big records (Think Madonna’s self-titled album, Thriller … or even most rock records used reverb or gated Linn Drums as the main drums or to beef up live drum playing) was predominantly the Linn Drum … until the mid-80’s digital takeover. Go do some research, or listen to records from 82-86. The second biggest drum machine was the DMX/DX, which also were used all over pop records, but had more of a presence in black music like rnb, funk, hip hop (“sucker mcs”!) and electro/dance music. The DrumTraks and Drumulator were used less, but can still be heard on a lot of records (“shout” by Tears for Fears is the Drumulator rock EPROMs). And the TR 808, 707, 606, and 909 were less used in most of the 80’s strangely, but all became staples of dance, house, techno, electronic music in the late 80’s and 90’s. (“Beat it” is a good use of the 606 in a pop record; there are only a few big pop songs using the 808, and you’ll hear them for every demo of a vintage 808 on KZbin. I don’t know any pop songs off the top of head that used the 707 or 909 … until the 90’s and 2000’s. “The Bridge is Over” and “PSK” are two hip hop songs from then 80’s that have a 909, but those were hardly mainstream; same with Run Dmc’s “together forever”, or the Beasties last minute of “the New Style”, or “hold it now, hit”, or LL Cool J “radio”, which all feature Rick Rubin using both the 808 and 707. Long story short: the LM-1 was rare and unique. In terms of big, big records with the LM-1 used … it’s pretty much all Prince, with few exceptions.

[@itimmy101]

Just stop teasing us with the linndrum and just make the clone already!😁

[@ashfaq1999]

Had the original Linndrum back in the 80’s. Looking forward to seeing behringers version. Hope they remake the Dmx & Drumulator too !!

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

If you listen to the percussion loop during “Shout”, you can tell very plainly that the go-go bells have been detuned.

[@DavidRavenMoon]

“Shout” is said to have been recorded with an Emu Drumulator. But it was their custom Digidrums “Rock Kit” EPROMs anyway.

[@guntheriscariot3064]

@@DavidRavenMoon it's the drumulator indeed, with the Bonham EPROM. You can here those on Cocteau Twins "treasure" album as well....

[@MCBrainpower]

Does this mean the LinnDrum clone release date gets closer!??? Please make it have the exclusive LM-1 usability as well!! 💜💜💜💜🔊🔊🔊 PS: I love Tears for Fears. Met Curt Smith in 2018 and went to see them live in Amsterdam last year and they delivered a supreme quality show 🔥 PS: Is this the actual LinnDrum that Roland Orzabal used to write Shout with/on. Or is this an additional one they used while on tour, or is that one and the same machine? Is there any provenance on that? Either way: Much love to you, Uli & crew....🏆

[@nitfumble]

Wow, laatste plek waar ik een MCBrainpower comment had verwacht! Nicenice

[@MCBrainpower]

Bart als je goed nadenkt in feite de eerste plek 😂💜

[@MCBrainpower]

You Create Your Reality ik maak geen oude hits maar tijdloze nummers 😎🔊💜 - Zowel toen als nu (en alle tijd ertussen in) produceer ik een deel van m’n songs zelf en een deel van m’n songs samen met anderen. Als anderen de beat leveren overzie ik ook vrijwel altijd de productie. Daarnaast ben ik groot fan en liefhebber van drum machines en synths. Plus van oorsprong niet alleen een lyricist maar ook een toetsenist. Thanks voor de interesse 🏆💜

[@muzikman2008]

Awesome! 😎👍 Loved the rawness...

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

Everyone should get Aly James Vprom in the meantime. AMAZING vst of the linndrum that loads the actual EPROMs of the linndrum, dmx, drumtraks, etc

[@annother3350]

Yes. I make my own sounds for it too. Aly needs a user forum where people can share sounds

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

Ann Other That would be perfect

[@theboofin]

It's the LM-1. It aint the LinnDrum...

[@annother3350]

@@theboofin Even better

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

PushServer True. It can load Linndrum EPROMs though and a whole slew of others. So it’s like having all of them

[@nikolaki]

Seeing all those eeproms and the circuit board layout really reminded me of my childhood.

[@TMEG.]

Please make a clone of the LinnDrum!!!

[@haidar6280]

I'm not really a drum machine kind of guy myself but even I would love to get my hands on a Behringer Linn remake. Behringer get on it please!

[@MusicFed]

that's the point here I guess...

[@pkarvo]

@@MusicFed I'm not so sure, it just seems like a TFF rescue for their synth museum. F##ing hope they do one though

[@benanderson89]

It was leaked ages ago that they were working on a Linn remake; it's codename is the LMX. In some of their other demo videos they've used a Linn snare in the background, as another obvious hint to the linn remake.

[@ConwayBob]

@@MusicFed -- Either that or it's a pretty pointless video! Yes, please, a Behringer LinnDrum is exactly what we want for Xmas. Or a pony.

[@EnervatedSociety]

Ooh sexy machine. Would like one. Also ,TFF kicks butt!

[@thepanel2935]

I had an opportunity to buy the Oberheim 'DX' that belonged to _Huey Lewis and the News._ I never knew why they didn't have the more feature-packed DMX.

[@BrillCreem]

Fascinating story. Love TFF and the Linn. 😍

[@tomblaze2]

Dang - I would add this to my home studio instantly - I love the sound of these 1980s drums - please include the extra eprom sounds from Tears for Fears in the actual release - extra fx would sweeten the deal - saturation on the overall output, built in compressor, maybe some super 80s digital reverb/chorus.delay on a bus with individual control for level per drum part -

[@skatechatham]

tomblaze2 tr8s can do all that now

[@spookypen]

Hey, you know what would be cool, if you clone the Linndrum, that would be cool yeah? Though still looking forward to the Rd-9 more.

[@jmarvosa6x3]

spookypen ... Hear, hear!! Linn cline plz

[@jordyhoutman2654]

ill go for both

[@colonelrjb3608]

spookypen damn straight that would be a purchase for sure.

[@benanderson89]

@Active Username loading samples of the output into any sampler isn't how you recreate the linn. You need ROM data and you need the supporting hardware to turn that ROM data into sound. The closest clone we have right now is the VPROM by Aly James that uses ROM data and simulated circuits, and its night and day when compared to sample packs, especially the free running oscillator used for the hat. Having a clone of its esoteric sequencer would be fantastic, too, as it's non-standard resolution (48ppq I think) gives it a lovely groove, and its just nice to program overall versus a DAW with a pad controller.

[@pkarvo]

@Active Username This completely NOT the case. I have used a Linn many times, and even compared to running samples off a VST sampler. It sounds nothing the same. The Linn is alive and has it's own sound due to the circuitry and technology. Samples aon a computer sound sterile and lack of magic in comparison.

[@Mooli]

Love the sound of the Linn. Have used it on several of our records. Will be great if you recreate this.

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

2:26 Awwwwwwww mannnn!!! It has the Art of Noise toms and not the Prince/Peter Gabriel toms. But did your hear that hi-hat🤤🤤🤤 man, there ain’t nothing like a LINN.

[@evankeal]

World needs a fat drum machine, it's been 35 years without.

[@ROKZLEON]

That's one cool drum machine!!! 👦🏻

[@BaddaBigBoom]

I love how it auto quantizes, can't remember if my old e-mu Drumulator did that or not.

[@brianholloway7468]

Yeah! I'm buying one for sure!

[@parkerdrummer]

I bought a used LinnDrum machine in 1985 for $1500 and gave it to a friend of mine in Los Angeles around 1996. I probably did 500+ sessions with it. There was a ground lug that connected the top and bottom parts of the chassis. It came loose and then the thing would shock the shit out of you if you touched one side of the metal chassis. The other cool thing was that it had external pad inputs that I connected to a Simmons kit. Sounds on an ePROM plugged into ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) Sockets... Crazy!!!

[@ashfaq1999]

I also had the linndrum up to 1993 when it also suffered malfunction as it burned out the service boards . Was costly to repair & parts here in england were hard to find.

[@clemarmageddon2366]

Incredible... Nice

[@leeanucha]

What a piece of music history there.

[@itchyvinyl]

On your clone - PLEASE include the DigiDrums “Rock Kit” EPROMS which TFF used on Shout and Mothers Talk!!!!

[@dontillman]

No to mention a REAL display for the sequencing and have the power to dump roms to a SD card and to put sounds in via USB. :)

[@annother3350]

@@dontillman You need Aly james' Vprom VST

[@guntheriscariot3064]

They used a drumulator with the Bonham EPROM on that....

[@itchyvinyl]

@@guntheriscariot3064 Yeah, they were aftermarket chips made by Digidrums (an early incarnation of Digidesign who made ProTools before Avid bought them). I’ve owned two Drumulators, one with those chips. It’s rumored that the “Rock Drums” kit is sampled from “...Levee Breaks”, but others say that’s an urban legend.

[@Maulleygxxx]

You guys are going Nuclear!!!

[@daveo3348]

I would definitely purchase 3 of them on the first day you guys release it!!!

[@jimmywheelo]

This video gives some insight into the cloning process. Some people think you just scan the kit through a copying machine. Looks like a huge undertaking

[@iqi616]

Exactly. Obsolete chips, redesigning for surface mount, engineering a more reliable design (though this LINN doesn't seem too bad considering it's been on the road then left to rot in storage). Reliability is a biggie because we take it for granted these days but a lot of seventies and early eighties electronics was very fragile and not well made despite people these days wetting their panties over "hand soldered". I was properly trained but some other technicians could barely tell which end of the iron was the hot end!

[@shabbee]

Either sound Rom is shot, the addressing or data lines are not pulling the data in properly or as mention the eproms need reseating. If it has a NICAD battery, that may have leaked and is causing a short

[@kewkabe]

Or bad capacitors (they tend to go bad after some years). That could mess up the analog circuits and cause clipping or other signal problems.

[@Redh0und]

older eproms also tend to lose their charges after some decades

[@shabbee]

Very true

[@rdoetjes]

Joe Bartholomeus never have I ever had an eprom loose “charge” (which is technically not correct but let’s go with it :) ) even those that had no stickers on the quartz window. It was always an addressing or data read issue for me; bad solder joints or bad sockets. And I’ve come a cross 1000s of micro controllers and microcomputers. Those EPROMs in my experience are indestructible except for corrotion on pins breaking solder joints.

[@shabbee]

@@rdoetjes I think charge is not the best term, but I understand what the other commenter is trying to say

[@philiphart6688]

Can't wait for next episode!

[@JulianeWolfMusic]

It's fascinating that you're making the LD now. I remember how I was suggesting it a few months ago. Love your dedication to customers.

[@rockogoyochea5404]

Give Us a Linn Drum, it will be awesome.💙

[@jelliottnesss]

GREATEST DRUM MACHINE OF ALL TIME USED BY ONE OF THE GREATEST GROUPS OF ALL TIME TFF4LIFE

[@sosickhcdrums]

OMFG I’VE BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS! 🖤🖤🖤

[@gimmietheprize]

I've purchased loads of your gear in the last month. Gonna get the RD9 but would LOVE a Linn Drum!

[@johnnyvegas2015]

Definitely buying one if they release it.

[@RothmanHarv]

Love the glitchy toms.

[@chrischrissn5606]

Where to get this lovely calm music that you hear in the background?

[@jasoncorganbrown]

This is so cool.

[@luffegun]

Im so happy i could cry.

[@MarcS4R]

i love you Behringer

[@martijn_nl]

Hopefully Behringer will replicate this bad boy!! Same timing, da conversion and audio path are crucial to the sound! And don’t forget the wooden side panels 😎

[@furthermoore1863]

And I find it kind of funny . I find it kind of sad.

[@Demoulous]

The Dreams where I have a BinnDrum with Tears for Fears presets are the best I've ever had.

[@andriealinsangao613]

I find it hard to tell you, 'Cause I find it hard to take

[@moistpeanut5986]

Cant wait for the Binn Drum!!!!

[@rnkmode1876]

My 2 favorite New Wave/Classic Alternative bands, Depeche Mode and Tears for Fears. I'm sure DM used this drum machine as well.

[@Area32Audio]

I was just coming to KZbin behringer to randomly ask that they do a LINN DRUM CLONE in their clones line up and what do you know Boom they already on it haha. Can't wait

[@jus]

Sick! Would’ve loved to hear some sequences they recorded.

[@plantpoweredmuscle]

We NEED this clone! We have spoken!!!

[@CarlosNativeOfficial]

Great all behringer stuff!!! Please a behringer MPC will be amazing😁

[@jacksonueland]

I dont even make music much anymore and I will buy this

[@chrisstrobel3439]

Behringer Linn Drum .. yeah I’m in 👍

[@EvilSoundsEntertainment]

Behringer, it’s time!!! When can we expect this beauty?

[@karljanus8308]

CAN someone please help. I have the same Linndrum and the sounds seem to be working ok, however it is impossible to compose any beat sequence on it. the inner clock seems to be broken (?), it is basically all over the place, the drum sounds simply fire-off randomly whilst playing in the track mode. does anyone know what could the issue be? any specialists I could send it to in the u.k.?

[@SynthgodXXX]

Awesome music history! Can't wait for the BinnDrum! Sweet! :)

[@scootergreen3]

Lucky you to get this from Tears for Fears.

[@mauriciomandara5946]

That’s the great thing about hardware ... still working after 20 years in a storage

[@benanderson89]

"Working". It's functional but it's not working properly. It's still impressive since it looks like it's been roughed up a lot.

[@uvoikimovundutrauerblume3302]

I owned exact the same Linn a good 10 years ago the minus was you can't tune all the sounds only if you swap the eprom . And the play in sync need a extra enter on the start button. I forgot wat the clock rate was i know it was not the same rate from my Oberheim dx

[@cnfuzz]

Sure the lm1 was 192 ppq but you could halve it , it think DX and dmx were 384 because of free time quantization

[@uvoikimovundutrauerblume3302]

@@cnfuzz all long time ago i retrofitted the Dx with midi so it was possible triggering the sounds with a external sequencer or drummachine .

[@markorendas1790]

GREAT!!!

[@Franksey180]

@BEHRINGER - Was there coverage in any other video of the time line of the TFF kit you've been working on, when it was last in use, who kept it after it was last used and how you guys came to acquire it? Feels like theres a few untold stories here that would be interesting, to go along with the tech repair side of things.

[@krostifmusic]

Haha ! Was just looking for the price of the beast a few hours ago.. I saw 2500 € min and cried. Now i have a big smile on my face !!!

[@Sharon-music]

Love it.

[@casadosynth]

I Love Behringer

[@devintariel3769]

This is the thing I cant do without. I mean come on.

[@dsuccezz]

Linn LM1 and UB-XA thank U!

[@jokkeloco]

Behold! The LinnBum!

[@Pladderkasse]

That's the sound of so many pop-hits from my childhood. Ghastly pop-singers like Sabrina and Samantha Fox, had Linndrums on everything.

[@mykhedelic6471]

Yes! Okay, please make an LM-1/LinnDrum combo, with all of the benefits of both (really just want an LM-1 but a combo would be cool, especially with LM-1's ability to change the pitches Prince-style.) Very likely a purchase!

[@senordisco1324]

Nice. So... Linndrum clone when?

[@RenatoPernett]

Recreate it Behringer! And add as presets all the famous tweaks of MJ, and other artists! Make it touch sensitive, with the possibility of sampling!

[@SparkAttack86]

Yay Behringer... i'd definatley buy this and hope they're cloning it! But i have a question for anyone in the know. How would they clone it, e.g. its sample based and would they have to license the sounds/samples from Roger Linn??? Also, hope its tunable and you can swap out EPROMS like i've seen people do with the actual Linn drum.

[@ryananthony4840]

C'mon C'mon!!!!!!! Let's have it already lol!!

[@gianpauldulfo4707]

Can I ask a question do you have ep 3 of this machine

[@VJFranzK]

3:06 It's been circuit bent by time! It does sound good, in a noise way. (Maybe the clone could have some "bent" sounding params?)