4 Reasons You Should Wait For 2025 Ford Super Duty (Don't Buy 2024!?)

4 Reasons You Should Wait For 2025 Ford Super Duty! The 2025 Ford Super Duty is set to be a game-changer, and you’ll want to know why! This video uncovers the top 4 reasons why waiting for the Ford Super Duty 2025 is the best decision you can make. With its unmatched power, innovative features, and cutting-edge technology, the Ford Super Duty promises to exceed all expectations. Why is this truck model so much anticipation? We delve into the unique aspects that make the 2025 Super Duty stand out in the crowded market. Stay tuned to discover the surprises that Ford has packed into this incredible vehicle. Watch now to find out what makes the 2025 Ford Super Duty a must-have for truck enthusiasts!
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[@tech_triumph]

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[@arjunkundu499]

only if they offer a manual transmission. I want a manual Ford Super Duty, not an automatic.

[@rich7447]

Less buttons is never a good thing. Drivers do not want the controls in the infotainment system.

[@iwanaGoFast2010]

I like infotainment bottons

[@markvincent5992]

Hear, hear! Give us controls that have a knob or dial that can be differentiated easily by touch. The controls in the infotainment system are a pain as you have to take your eyes off the road to read the screen. Furthermore, they are a pain to adjust without looking

[@tjmakings]

I bet they don't change it to vertical, especially since the f150 hasn't had that change.

[@rich7447]

@@tjmakings My 2024 Super Duty has the landscape orientation on the 12" screen and it is great. Lots of physical buttons below the screen for all the commonly accessed features and more than enough screen real estate for navigation and camera. Changing to a portrait view and going to on screen buttons would be a terrible decision.

[@PersononYT56]

I went to a ford focus group recently to look at different concept interiors of superduties and I was very vocal about not having everything be on a display screen. Needless to say, they were not happy about that because they're trying to put everything on a display screen

[@donaldmartin4980]

It will be fun watching all these manufacturers pricing themselves out of business .

[@thomaspavelko9412]

Unless your the guy working there to support your family.

[@lacuzon39000]

And then government will bail them out once again with our $$$

[@ITG45]

And the fact that our economy would collapse

[@donaldmartin4980]

@@ITG45 if these idiots at all levels keep going it might happen

[@jamesrecknor6752]

'Yes, but at our dealership we have lowered the air in the tires fee to only $999, and we can get you 120 month financing!"

[@rich7447]

Nobody is waiting for flex fuel!

[@paulfeasal6024]

Yah especially when it's only E-85. The only thing attractive about E-85 is the price. However you will find that it evaporates real quick compared to 87 Octane.

[@allanrheaume5549]

I find giant screens are stupid, I miss the mid 90's HD Fords.

[@Rskitalll]

You can still buy one from the 90s 😂

[@pauldiesel4582]

Until you have driven with one you really can’t knock it. They make backing up that much more safer, especially with multiple camera angles, navigation is easier to see and all the other infotainment controls are larger and easier to use. Once you’re used to it it’s blends into the rest of the truck and is just another helpful convenience.

[@arvbergstedt3303]

70 to 100 thousand. Forget it.

[@davek9378]

With ‘nonexistent’ inflation add $5k by 2027...

[@reeceedwards2509]

250 gas 6.8 drive out 44 k xl only white. 2023 bought last month cashier check required for this purchase

[@melrobinson6919]

​@@reeceedwards25092wd, regular cab, cloth seats? Even so, that sounds like a good deal. Still has a lot of safety features and a screen with nav, etc...

[@luckytrapper7656]

Get rid of all that high tech BS and go back to the big turn style knobs and slide activated hvac. This will be more dependable and lower the price to "maybe someone can actually afford to buy the truck".

[@DanielB__]

Lol! Saying exactly what I was thinking. Too much fancy tech.

[@struck99]

obviously people are buying them lol

[@luketilley9137]

😅😂🤣 is hvac the old ac?🤔

[@powtheory867]

You think a 14 inch screen is the reason the trucks are $20,000 too highly priced?

[@erikswensen425]

And go back to traditional analog gauges and get rid of that digital junk. Standard lockers instead of electronic lockers.

[@pedrocaballero1497]

Everyone please form a single line while holding buckets of cash and maybe a spare kidney (to be auctioned off), all to be used as a down payment. Afterwards you will finance them for 30 years. This may mean you will finish paying the truck off about the same time as you finish paying off your house. They forgot to mention that a free unicorn will accompany each truck sale.

[@iwanaGoFast2010]

I sold my kidney last year for a super duty.

[@tater0909]

I’d rather have a truck. Not a car that can tow. Make trucks a truck again. And give us a manual transmission

[@cooperpedie437]

New Automatic transmissions are better than any manual ever made

[@tater0909]

To each their own. It’s not about what can outshift the other. It’s about personal preference and being able to control the truck

[@cooperpedie437]

@@tater0909 nothing is better than an automatic, way easier to drive, much better engine braking, downshifting

[@tater0909]

@@cooperpedie437I’m glad you have that then.

[@kimblelisenby8537]

Unless you are a manual transmission kind of guy you will never understand why some of us want them. Way over most drivers head.

[@danrussell9357]

I think most SD owners actually want a simpler truck with less technology - call it a fleet trim - and a lower price.

[@barbcorrigan2389]

So does it still have the CP4 fuel pump?

[@TradingWithJesseW]

😂 exactly

[@NomoreAB]

I have a 2023 with the high output engine. They have it choked back and way too many driving modes. Even in the regular mode, throttle response is delayed. They need to slow down and put out a quality product. One example was the door alignment, it was not really close. Fortunately the dealership “sees this” on a regular basis and was able to correct it in -30 min

[@MrFakit]

At over $100k for a new truck here in Canada I think I'll keep my '93 F-super duty (f-450)

[@413x398]

And it will be speed limited to 10 mph over the posted, and will be recording everything you do in the interior. At 40 percent more money up front. Yep, that's for me. For sure. You betcha.

[@roberto-gp2dt]

GREAT HOORAY!!!! now if only your regular Jane orJoe can actually afford it, that's the problem...

[@thomaspavelko9412]

Not made for the average joe, only 2 reasons to buy the 250 on up, show off your man van or tow a $100,000 + camper/toy hauler/race trailer ect ect all of that being out of reach of the working class.

[@davidhurt1579]

Anybody else notice the Ram workers on the supposed Ford assembly line at 2:44?

[@SeriousExplorations]

Yep, they were working on a hemi.

[@jimpatriot179]

Yes, why they used that clip is beyond reason.

[@darryladams519]

Lol

[@830_t9]

Flex fuel is not a popular option around here I think people would rather have a diesel electric hybrid option.

[@rich7447]

The interior of the current high trim Ram is no better than the current high trim Ford. If Ram offered an 8' bed and wide track front axle in the Mega Cab they would have a winner, but Stellantis is going the other way. Soon the Ram will be a Fiat 500 with an open cargo area.

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

Interior looks same as F150 because cab section is the same as the f150. Has been since 2017 model year. Remember???

[@AnMunRa]

With all these changes, I wonder how many recalls there will be lol

[@hvac.animation]

Please make the ugly box and bumper steps optional.

[@magicmerlin1]

I hate the prices and those ugly Chevy steps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@danbreejen8639]

The big three are making these full sized trucks for a different race of beings. You've got to be 9 feet tall for these things to fit! There is no way you can reach something in the bed.

[@taco472]

I prefer the center console control ‘knobs/buttons’ of my 2019. I find the touch screen too distracting while driving, the have to take your eye off the to find the function you are looking for.

[@CodySimoncelli-of7xx]

I didn’t know 500hp and 1200 torque wasn’t enough. Ford is really showing us how much they are trying to turn the truck market into a manhood measuring contest.

[@100pyatt]

And most that buy these are lacking size in their shorts too 🤣💯💯💯

[@j.need4qlife483]

Superduty Fords trucks are supposed to be work trucks. Are there improvements for powertrain reliability? Extra hp and torque is nice, but I will look elsewhere if mechanical issues keepon becoming an issue.

[@FranciscoLinera]

So The current 10 speed can't handle the lower spec engine output. So let's crank it even more! Who comes up with this crap? Maybe the people from Boeing moved to Detroit? That's it!

[@100pyatt]

Current 10 speed is handling the FP700 kits , 3.0 Whipples and more.. You're living under a rock apparently

[@Sylvan_dB]

Check *which* 10 speed comes with the 6.8 vs the 7.3 and diesel.

[@jeffrose5622]

Looks super cool! Can't wait to get one on order. My 2013 F350 Lariat, while although awesome, is getting a bit long in the tooth and time to get an upgrade. Thank you for this and please continue to add as you receive new information.

[@XRakkgruntX]

And it can be shut down electronically from anywhere in the world via Satellite link, you’re tracked, recorded, engine parameters recorded.. I’ll take the older trucks any day.

[@jeromemeyers7079]

Which buttons are "unnecessary"?

[@Spitter-ud8jd]

The one we pressed to watch this Bullshit video.🍻

[@Scout819]

@@Spitter-ud8jd Yeah, while thing screams "I'm pulling this out of my a$$"

[@watchinglclowns9890]

All of Them...

[@wooddogr6275]

7:06 Doesn't know the difference between horizontal and vertical dash layout. As others have mentioned less buttons is not a good thing.

[@alvinbanks]

People below come to here just to complain, they should build their own truck from the ground up and stop whining and crying. Oh, they can't.

[@StarGateSG7]

They can't but I can! I have CAD/CAM/FEA'ed my own 3000 HP, 4000 Ft/lbs all-Titanium Alloy V12 and can fab it on our 5-axis CNC's in about 6 hours! I can also shape and weld a fully custom super-aerodynamic compound-curve-based 7075-T6 aluminum crew cab body body and 10-foot bed on an aluminum tube frame that can take 150,000 lbs worth of towing and over 30,000 lbs in the 10-foot bed all in just three days. For the wheels, I can CNC a set of four-wheel fully independent high-hub wheels plus driveshafts that give me 16 inches of ground clearance once I put some custom fabbed carbon-composite TWEEL airless tire technology that can EASILY take the 190,000 lbs worth of combined cargo trailer towing, in-bed cargo and gross vehicle-only weight plus four five passengers and all the power from that 4000 ft/lbs of torque V12 engine! I will run a fully-realtime hardened hard-interrupt Linux OS in a Dual AMD EPYC 128-core CPU box that is RAD/EMP/RFI/EMI-hardened to a full TEMPEST standards in its custom-built one inch thick Tungsten shielded ECU module and fully-shielded 240 Volt wiring and fibre-optic 400 gigabit network that will control all aspects of the truck operation and control ALL the custom-designed in-cabin user interfaces made and coded by one of the best user interface graphics designers in the business that has every major cabin comfort system, infotainment and 4x4 off-road GOAT-mode software required all built-in. I will also be putting in a combo-fridge/freezer, an espresso machine, a combo microwave/convection oven, custom SDR radio system with Starlink Internet, Iridium satellite phone, AM/FM/Shortwave/BlueTooth/ZigBee transceivers and long-range Wi-Fi/VHF/UHF comms plus onboard 50 Kilowatt generator with multiple 240 Volt / 50 Amp and 120 Volt at 20 amp plugs plus many USB-4, RS-232, RS-422, 1394 a/b, RJ-45, ATM/SONET Fibre-connect and SCADA connectors in the cabin and via in-bed and on the front exterior flip-out panels for charging, network comms and custom machine control along with an onboard 400 amp TIG welder with built-in shielded low-loss 250 foot cable reel and a built-in 2 microns and less fresh water filtration system with 500 foot reel intake hose! Add in the 60 Gallon diesel fuel tank and we are ALL-SET for long range driving AND in-field 50 KW power generation! There is on-board Windows Server and Workstation computers, built-in Xbox/Playstation consoles, heated/cooled vented RECARO seats with 4-point belts for all five people in the cabin, heads-up display and DCI-8k resolution screens for passengers and driver with real-time vector and satellite photo Navigation maps plus Windows Touchscreen tablets AND multiple 360 degree surround-view DCI-8K resolution 64-bit RGBA colour cameras plus tri-band infrared nightvision that are on all the time at 120 fps video capture rates! One thing I know HOW to do is CAD/CAM/FEA absolutely everything and then custom build it ALL by myself so I can ENSURE it is all super high-end quality! Now THAT is a proper truck!

[@ginog5037]

Towing 45,000 lbs sure, once! Will Ford be the king of recalls in 2025?

[@arjunkundu499]

I want the 2025 Ford Super Duty to offer the manual transmission as an option. Because I like engagement and control that the manual transmission offers.

[@winstonrocco1981]

Just bought a 24 super duty I love it

[@rapidcars1]

The 10 speed transmission on the super duty which was built in collaboration with Ford General motor is only rated to 1200 pound feet of torque so what did they do to the transmission to go over that?

[@tylerking27]

They didn’t develop the 10R140 with GM, just the half ton 10R80

[@weaponofchoice8942]

I worry about this too. I don’t tow a lot but this this is a weak point

[@100pyatt]

​@@tylerking27they're almost identical transmissions and both hold INCREDIBLE power levels compared to all prior automatic and manual transmissions

[@tylerking27]

@@100pyatt they’re quite different, there some comparison videos on here and the Ford is built heavier (don’t know if it’s any better) but they are quite different, especially compared to the half ton tannys

[@arod6789]

The 140 stands for the torque number. It's the same for all of them. 1400

[@Bradg153]

My 24 has 3k miles on it towing everyday no issues yet loving it so far

[@matthewkramer3789]

Are they going to fix the lifter problem I’ve replaced 10 engines in f550’s garbage 7.3l 2020 and newer as low as 26k ??? And I’ve replaced at least 14 transmissions 10 speeds I think they should bring back the 6 speed didn’t replace them all the time do you think they will have that problem fixed on the 2025 model???

[@scottymoondogjakubin4766]

They will all be de-tuned at the first recall for any reason like all the 6.0 6.4 trucks ! It keeps the motors from blowing up ! Hopefully ford will also remedy the nightmare upper oil pan issues !

[@scootter37]

Spot on!

[@jburch1544]

Quality is more important than all this non-sense

[@413x398]

The 7.3 is being bumped to 500 lbs/ft of torque. The 1970 Lincoln had that much. Gotta love the hi-tech leap into yesteryear.

[@brucerudd69]

Your carbureted 70 Lincoln got 9 miles to the gallon and was worn out at 50-60k miles. lol

[@413x398]

@@brucerudd69 It also costs 1/10 of a new Super Duty today. So lol right back at ya.

[@Spitter-ud8jd]

@@brucerudd69 Mine got 425 k miles . Same C6 trans the only internal repair was a broken rocker at 350 k miles.

[@100pyatt]

The 1994 powerstroke 7.3 had more torque and better fuel mileage 😂

[@darryladams519]

​@@brucerudd69more like 250,000 to 400,000 miles on them.

[@johnneary1697]

I’m a mechanic and have made a good living replacing the head bolts in the ford super duty line of trucks with less than 75,000 lies on them.

[@melrobinson6919]

Imagine you're referring to the 6.0s...? Another reason I'm keeping my '01 7.3 with only 177,000 miles.

[@jabroni6199]

The HO power stroke already chugs def.

[@WarVet1984]

Everything sounds so great however, I did not hear anything about fixing the ANNOYING DEATH WOBBLE

[@dcigno]

Nice footage of the Ram factory putting a transmission to a motor...

[@rich7447]

I have the high output in the 2024 F450 and it cuts power in the first three or four gears as it overpowers the duals.

[@SpeedGGonzalez]

It’s called traction control…

[@rich7447]

@@SpeedGGonzalez Even when you turn traction control off it does the same thing.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

I call bs on the power bumps

[@greghulsey5022]

More cheap quality electronics with an insane price. It's a Truck for working

[@burkepete110]

the thought of some of the HD drivers I see pulling over 15 tons or more will keep me off the highway a few stripped down models will sell for less than $100k but you won't find any like that available to buy

[@Jassman3536]

Payload and towing capacity will change again for 2025 w Powerstrokes 520hp/1350tq.

[@martinmdl6879]

Interesting. I test drove a Platinum Tremor 3 days ago. Gotta order it to get what you want.

[@Sasquatchflow]

Does anybody know what the 7.3 would cost in Canadian currency?

[@switz11]

Ford needs to put back the Wide Trak Front End. I bought a F450 because of it and the turning radius is so much better than the 250 or 350.

[@Sylvan_dB]

Hybrid powertrain? A 7.3L flex-fuel hybrid would work for me, especially with 7kw or better pro-power. Cheap fuel around town, and give it the good stuff for better range on the highway.

[@user-vq6rx5jo8c]

The old semi trucks with 300 hp and 800 torque can pull 24 tons . Why does ford need over 500 and 1300 torque to pull that weight . Those trucks will not last long pulling that weight . Get a semi truck .

[@ScottPykare]

The T9.700 with updated tracks and cab in prestige is nice.

[@Post_Oak_]

Don’t buy any of them. Stop enabling price gouging because you have to prove to everyone you’re successful. Buy an old truck and make it fancy if you want. At least it won’t leave you stranded because of a sensor or a crappy CP4

[@rdbjr52]

unsustainable product line. They’re way too expensive to constantly fill a production line. For automotive companies to survive its AI and robots all the time, every time. Coming soon to an assembly plant near you!

[@markvincent5992]

They are not talking about the trucks that regular people drive. These trucks are just for people who tow or haul very heavy loads. They are expensive, but you can have the power and capabilities of a young semi. They are always more expensive than the lesser models and when you add all the frills, you just might be right. Prices will have to be adjusted back to reality across all models, and new models will have to be smaller, more efficient and much less expensive. The quality issues will also have to be addressed by all manufacturers, as far as I can see nobody is making a good product and considering the huge investment they had better fix it quick.

[@bennippert4482]

All bullshit, where did you get your info. Bc you just made this it all up

[@reeceedwards2509]

It sat on the lot 6 mo plus easy highway driving 19 miles 6.8. 10 speed

[@jayi836]

Just order a F350 Limited When is the 2025 expected to be released? Late September?

[@herman5eight]

ONE reason you shouldn't buy any Ford product...................Quality................they lost sight of.........Ford quality JOB 1 (that used to be their slogan)

[@drivingwiththeboyz4552]

Not just ford lol

[@perpitraiter]

I suspect the UAW and DEI has alot to do with this.

[@LWRC]

You can't distinguish the difference between horizontal and vertical on the HMI display??!!!

[@mlmccollum100]

Dont forget they have stated the next gen could get a powerful hybrid version with the diesel

[@phillipgarrow2297]

I've had several superduty trucks over the years the biggest problem it's hard to see over the hood

[@LWRC]

One giant DRL bar across the front grill will just scream - look at me, the designers don't know what they were doing and just stuck a light bar across the entire grill!!!! 😂😂😂 Now the Superduty can become an instant clown truck!!! 😂😂😂

[@slaytanic921]

Where did you get your info

[@Letsgocarcruising]

Will the 7.3 Godzilla stop eating lifters and camshafts?

[@dustyrhodes1655]

OOOOF

[@blipsmann1985]

I’ll keep my 2010. They can stick the new ones !!!!

[@darryladams519]

Base is 415 cubic inches, the other gas engine is 445 cubic inches. Get tired of having to look up these engine sizes.

[@machmslf]

5.0 with turbo would be great in the superduty......so whats base model going to be by 2030? 400k?

[@aaronfreeman5264]

Can you repair the engine, one the timing belt breaks

[@JeepBigE]

Talking about the 10 speed transmission while showing the Ram factory. 😂😂😂

[@lucaslehman5379]

Where did you get all this information

[@weaponofchoice8942]

The SD needs a 7kw generator like the f150 hybrid

[@oldphart-zc3jz]

This is a commercial not a revue. Remember no one who is not a professional Ford or multibrand mechanic with PERSONAL overhaul experience on the drivetrain etc of a given vehicle can have an informed opinion. Let the people with too much money buy them first then watch what the professionals have to say on mechanic channels.

[@darrells1806]

All for a cool $150,000 for the Limited trim with dealer markup..

[@larrygray1557]

Ram's going to the high output Cummins dropping the standard output so Ford is doing the same with the Super Duty. That's great IF - and a BIG IF - you plan on towing 40,000LBs. And then there is the little guy with the 10,000 lb towing needs. You know the person who is stressing out the limits of a half ton max tow and needs (or wants for towing comfort) to move up to a 3/4 ton. Gone are the standard output options (other than GM) that would actually serve them better and historically gets better, but still lousy, fuel economy than the same truck with the HO option.

[@Rskitalll]

Not impressed with the 2022 seats. I feel the cloth was better than the leather. Other than that the 22 is a pretty solid truck

[@user-me9hn6vw3t]

It’s funny that Ford is trying to keep up with Ram. Makes me want to rethink about the Ram.

[@patnunez5791]

Nothing about this video is about the 2025 Super Duty. As of this writing, there isnt anything about the 2025 SD. All this video shows are 23 and 24 models.

[@michaelmeyers3664]

In a few years the pickup trucks will give Peterbilt and Kenworth competition!!

[@4Life-4Love]

What they need to get rid of is of gay ass steps on the side of the bed and bumper. And it's funny how they keep removing stuff for convenience but the price still keeps going up.

[@realistic.optimist]

Not a good idea to put everything through one big touch screen. Hope the HVAC controls stay independent.

[@cnetate]

What they need is digital rear view camera, power convex, better cargo camera, reclining rear seats

[@VinniePepperoni]

Yep i bet the pricing will guarantee the things will rot on the lots, and priced well beyond middle class working stiffs means. Have they made the cabs full tilt cabs for minor engine repairs or maybe buckle down cabs for ease of removal on the many times the poor cabs will need to come off. All that power will probably equal many failures

[@smokenjoe3745]

All you have to do is take out a second mortgage on your house to be able to buy one.

[@jamesrahn8339]

Oh awesome truck! What's the new sticker price? 200k 😢...wtf?

[@jonwhit1689]

Looks more and more like a Chevy. I keep my old one they are way too expensive.

[@brandonmcartor1096]

Thank goodness they are addressing that horrible looking grill on the 2025

[@thunderbolt5354]

I will take a 2025 GM or Chevy 3500 thankyou !

[@Bwanar1]

And hopefully all this for half the price of last years, so more than the special few can afford one, and not have to sell a body part! ;-)

[@kellylee8047]

Did you notice, Not a word about a GM Truck. Blue ovals Do Not Compare...

[@lobbyrobby]

Fill-up with e85 when regular gasoline isn't available? Wtf haha. I don't think there's an E85 station that exists that doesn't sell gas. I'd bet there's a million gallons of gas to every gallon of e85 in this world.

[@anthonymarron2055]

Climate controls, radio and heated/cooled seats should always remain physical knobs/buttons

[@cheliospanama9786]

If the do this…what happens to the 22,23,24 😅

[@kittyeagle2764]

with all the new Biden administration green new deal EPA regulations only the upper class will be able to afford these.Due to all regulations. and up dates.

[@paulfeasal6024]

The 85 is cheaper gas and don't last long. A person who is looking to save a buck will be the ones looking for something like this. Toyota's 3.5 runs on more different fuel types then jist adding E-85, which is a cheaper gas.

[@brianocallaghan7716]

Dang, i just watched a 10 minute ford advertisement.

[@blown503]

buttons that are mechanical with cables and do not have relays and ohm resistance switches rock these "UNNECESSARY BUTTONS". Digital buttons and switches suck bawls,