35+ Countries Are Leaving the Global Internet

[@TechAltar]

Note: we used a new map tool that automatically draws borders around countries and I was too busy figuring out how it works to pay attention to the all the details, like Crimea being marked as Russia in it. This is an error on my half, not some conscious statement, so feel free to ignore those and focus on the rest of the details. Also, get 20% off that Brilliant subscription: brilliant.org/techaltar

[@RERM001]

@@yaz2928 Don't worry about it, it'll take a year or two for Moscow to be occupied by either Ukraine or NATO. Or something idk, keep coping vatnik.

[@RERM001]

@@yaz2928 Keep coping and seething, vatnik.

[@yaz2928]

@@RERM001 The ukrop is now projecting his own seething and anger on others, keep dreaming about Moscow though.

[@RERM001]

@@yaz2928 I don't have to dream, the monke will bring perestroika 2 to the federation.

[@yaz2928]

@@RERM001 Two more weeks ukrop.

[@AriaAzadiPour]

Let me explain the system in Iran, most people get it wrong. In the normal times there is a black list where users are not allowed to access certain hosts. In the times of protests and unrest they move to a white list system where only Iranian IPs are accessible so it's not just certain services but all services that are hosted in Iran. The white list is only applied to the network of normal Iranians so the servers and the hosts inside Iran still work on the black list system because it is necessary to acceess services that are not hosted inside Iran by them. So you can bypass the internet by getting a server inside Iran and a server outside Iran then you can use various tools like squid, shadowsocks, v2ray, and etc. and a tunnel between the two servers to bypass the national internet. Edit: of course users are still subjected to package checking like it was explained in the video if your VPN doesn't have obfuscation feature then the ISPs will find out that you are using a VPN as it is very easy without obfuscation and block your connection. I recommend using RSA with any service that you use and performing a deffie-hellman on all connections. Basically a TLS. The last method if everything else was unable is to use ssh to forward the VPN or the proxy port to your localhost and then connect to it.

[@amiraloi1694]

The bigger problem for Iran is the hardware, one of the reasons they can't ever compete with the worldwide internet is that we still don't have enough servers and low level computer softwares, and we're far away from the todays world technology

[@markm0000]

@@amiraloi1694 I’m here in the States just imagining a bunch of Iranians at a LAN party using old P2 machines playing Unreal tournament and sharing funny pics.

[@doeswhateveraspidercan5454]

وطن پرست💙

[@amiraloi1694]

@@markm0000 well it's not like that either, because we have lot's of pirated games if we have the hardware to play them! i usually try to use foss programs because most of them contain a russian spyware. But we don't have regular connection with the rest of the world and that sucks because most of the times government spies on you and also their products suck as hell And after that we have a really big problem making money because our currency's value is going down daily thanks to the government and that really really hurts.

[@wilsonedwards8139]

Good to know. Very informative and intelligent! Thanks for sharing!❤

[@nahom1318]

As an Ethiopian, i can tell you that the 18 month long internet blackout is misleading, the blackout is only in a small region (state/ province) where, up until recently, there has been a violent war between the federal government and a heavily armed rebels. Electricity and running water have also been cut there , partly as a deliberate act of sabotage by both sides and partly due to infrastructure damage resulting from shelling. Things might come back to normal pretty soon tho, the rebels have agreed to a ceasefire and disarmament.

[@pramitkhanna7163]

Same thing in India, it was those areas where we have violent insurgency / communist rebels and terrorists.

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

@@pramitkhanna7163 Bhai that is in the majority of our states...

[@pramitkhanna7163]

@Shankar Ravikumar I've never had an internet blackout in my state. If you mean sites are blocked, that I agree with. It's nationwide. I was referring to the total internet blackouts, i.e., shutdown of internet services.

[@collie8]

this whole video is very politically biased and misleading. sad.

[@yolantadianow1584]

And in Canada they won't tell you in any i formation...what happened around the world 🌎. Only what happened in UK and that is propaganda

[@dznuts123]

It has never been “global” in the decentralization sense. Countries like China left the “global” internet, because it’s predominantly controlled by the United States. Social media is one of the examples to show why the decoupling is necessary. Then, the US is doing the same, for a similar reason. The US no longer has complete control over the dissemination of information. Fearing that the narratives go against their own, the US is also decoupling.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

And so the Collapse of Globalism continues.

[@ndouglas120]

This is the most common sense comment I've seen under this video. Thank you.

[@SineN0mine3]

This is only true if you consider Facebook, Instagram, etc as the internet. Before social media China had loads of internet users and they mostly produced and consumed Chinese made content due to the language barrier. This is a step backwards, unquestionably.

[@VisibleMRJ]

Information war is similar to real war. If you are defending staying within the walls is much better than being on an open field but If you are attacking staying within the walls is pretty useless. From this analogy you can clearly see what is actually going on.

[@thecrab3128]

​@@SineN0mine3 Well since the ''global internet'' here do largely composed of these several platforms owned by the US, This is still true by your standard. Language barrier alone won't get you rid of this monopoly over internet. This step backward was destined from the instance US decided to use this monopoly as a weapon.

[@ScottNimos]

Monitoring here in Australia, some protests had our government investigate protest organises. It has been happening all over the world.

[@marcos-ll2yr]

exactly is naive to think only western countries are free

[@jlnrdeep]

Mike Pondsmith the creator of the Cyberpunk franchise predicted this outcome in the early 90's, He called the local networks "Data fortress" but those where mainly controlled by megacorporations not nation/states.

[@pedrokreutzwerle9488]

You have to remember that in the Cyberpunk world Megacorps are as powerful if not more powerful than actual governments, so the parallel you put is even closer

[@mikexhotmail]

@@pedrokreutzwerle9488 Megacorps such as Google+ Lockheed combine. ^^

[@AcidiFy574]

Then you'll love deus ex

[@marcos-ll2yr]

the US Internet is controlled by megacorpotarions the other nations are the goverment.

[@mikexhotmail]

@@marcos-ll2yr Indeed

[@OmegaWolf747]

Makes me wonder if the global Internet was just a beautiful dream that was doomed from the start. 😞

[@q1337]

It was a good idea until people noticed they could exploit it for profit and here we are.

[@willliam1420]

If countries, both West and otherwise, continue to abuse it then it won't last

[@Klackala]

time to buy pied piper stock

[@JmKrokY]

😔

[@spongebobsucks12]

Internet was heavily abused by malicious actors on all parties. It was never meant to last, enjoy it while you have it.

[@juicecan6450]

About the 100+ regional blackouts in India, this has truly been a messed up time, but those blackouts were pretty localised and the goal was to completely deny internet access for the region temporarily (few days) rather than create an iron curtain like China. What's more messed up is the lessons India's learned from others, now the govt is planning to order all VPN services on Indian soil to hand over their data pertaining to traffic in the country. Not sure if that's come to pass yet but this is not a good time. Canada's Bill C-11 is also the kind of idea leaders here would love and dying TV giants would lobby for.

[@narutrixil]

Next video on the topic you should talk about what does it mean for international shared resources and standards on the internet, stuff like IP address allocation, domain names and certificate authorities.

[@NotTubeIm]

At that point, the definition of whose internet is the global internet will also change

[@NeostormXLMAX]

The usa wont have full control anymore

[@ProckerDark]

Exactly

[@hahalolha]

The one thing that I find quite underdiscussed is the underlying technologies. TCP/IP doesn't really care what acts as a backhaul (copper, fibre optics, radio), basically anything which can be modulated can wrap IP packets. Look to things in the amateur radio scene like DX, Earth-Moon-Earth comms, Winlink, RTTY, APRS, Packet Radio et al. Unless a state-based actor can jam literally GHz of spectrum, A form of the "internet" will prevail

[@jawadbilgrami4676]

I suppose the point isn’t to completely remove all access to the ‘internet’, but to make it difficult to access/use for the layman. If the country owns the physical infrastructure (your version of ‘backhaul’) then you’re already unable to access the ‘internet’. People, especially younger people, don’t know anything about radio comms (me included 😅) so how would they set it up? Also, the radio spectrum is already controlled by the state so they can and will jam radio comms. Pls, correct me if I’ve misunderstood you :)

[@psoltan]

Using RF to transmit Internet packets is very low bandwidth for Amateur radio. You might as well just transmit voice. It's hard to stop people from listening to short-wave broadcasts.

[@igorordecha]

Starlink. Once you get the hardware and Elon's blessing, governments can't do shit to you(except raiding your house ofc).

[@houseofvenusMD]

@@igorordecha Or shutting down Starlink...low Earth Orbit is owned by the UN...which is owned by the Security Council. Please realize we have space planes that go on unmanned missions for two years at a time. The Government is very powerful.

[@myvee4485]

That's the first thing that came to mind as I was watching this.

[@direnius]

From Western point of view this whole thing looks like simple censorship. But when you look at it from China's or Russia's perspective you understand why they are worried. Which government would like to hand over all the personal information of its citizens to other (and many times hostile) governments? Would the US be OK if every American citizen's eating habits, health issues, political orientations and everything in between were in the hands of the Russians? Even I, as a western, am not comfortable with the idea that everything I do on the web is known and monitored by Zuckerberger or the guys at Google. The internet is neither free nor global as it stands now; it's in the hands of a few Western "tech oligarchs".

[@rafsandomierz5313]

Oh yea they are controlled so much by their RUnet that many of them cannot even tell why their government is attacking Ukraine all they say is based on the flow of information controlled by their government. They can't say anything that is negative about the government their accounts get suspended or they land in prison , if someone is supporting Navalny they are tracked down either killed or thrown into prison. And still majority of their tax money still goes to oligchars for new super yacht lol.

[@seanthe100]

If the US was concerned about that it would've never created the Internet in the first place and export it to the rest of the world. I think the US was caught off guard by the Internet being used as a weapon it was initially something exciting in the US

[@apex_blue]

The problem is since when has Russia, Iran, or China care about their citizens rights or safety they only care about power.

[@robertnomok9750]

@@seanthe100 Rofl what? IT was designed for military use since its inception.

[@seanthe100]

@@robertnomok9750 military use, but for the purpose of sending data over distances that was literally why the US created the Internet. It was for scientists to be able to send large amounts of data to one another. Espionage came later

[@eaudegaurav]

When it comes to avoiding Twitter users, one needs to self censor their own internet.

[@theeternal6890]

That's why I am not in Twitter. It's curse

[@danek_hren]

​@@theeternal6890 yes, twitter is full of cringe users

[@verifeli]

Don't worry, Elon Musk knew about this, that's why he bought Twitter, to kill it slowly.

[@eco909]

My Company uses a Proxy in each factory and the factories are connected via MPLS. Some employee from China figured out the IP from our Proxy in Europe and surfed on the Web via the european proxy. He/She searched for the wrong thing and our MPLS was cut within minutes in China citing "technical error".

[@AlbionTVLondon]

Every country should have full control over its own internet assets and services. This is true democracy. And no other country should be able to interfere or spread propaganda against other country's will.

[@hawkingdawking4572]

Sounds fair. Those 'country' people should be blocked from accessing the outside internet too. We don't don't want them here. They can keep their oil, gas and million year old civilization in their own soil.

[@homemedia6188]

Your mention of India is misleading. Blackouts in India were limited to a city or two at a time for 4G internet on mobile phones for a limited amount of time, only during some serious incident. Other phone and internet services were wrking fine.

[@BasakPratik]

not only that but the map used is incorrect..

[@agrajyadav2951]

Don't you see his colour

[@rainnchen9632]

He is a CIA shill.

[@hawkingdawking4572]

Even then the regime controls the content against their state religion.

[@hiareeb]

I'm from India and the internet blackout is a nightmare here. For as long as 1 year or more. Leaving students without any access to any study material or even simple Google search. Often state wise this is done which completely blocks the cell towers not just internet .

[@sharthakghosh970]

Apart from Kashmir that too two years ago because of the security situation, tell me exactly where we have had blackouts ? Sad pathetic liar

[@thebestevertherewas]

Which state are you from?

[@ss_avsmt]

@@thebestevertherewas J & K or the north east. Ruling party had blacked out most of the state after abolition of the article 370. My cousins had to stay on 2g and 3g for almost a year.

[@fireispure]

When it comes to India, sometimes things are said without context or blanket general statements are made as if the whole country experienced blackouts - people fail to mention that the internet messaging apps and social media were being actively used to spread misinformation leading to violence. Also, rich countries like the US etc have much more sophisticated methods to control the internet and media in general. Hope people have heard of the Snowden revelations.

[@prerakmalik1242]

not really, only problematic areas face blackouts, 99% of the country has never faced a blackout

[@mcal27]

Yes depressing indeed. But we have internet censorship here in the uk. Virtually all Russian news media has been censored. And if you look at things from the other countries perspective, the internet as a whole is pretty much under at least the influence of Washington and if a country see’s Washington as hostile to them it’s wise to be able to have a functional internet if Washington decides you are going to be shutdown

[@NeostormXLMAX]

This channel is shilling for american media, they never cover censorship of the west,

[@davidduszek709]

Banning goverment sponsored news sites is not the same as dictatorships banning the whole internet. I see no problem with banning specific propaganda mouthpieces of Putin, afterall, we also censored Dr. Goebbels in the UK and no one argues that this act hurt our freedom of information.

[@mcal27]

@@davidduszek709 who decides which are the ‘mouthpieces’? Where does it stop? What are you scared of hearing from these sources?

[@sylviam6535]

@@davidduszek709 - Pretty much all western corporate media are the mouthpieces of corrupt western political systems. You’re one of those dopes who still thinks the West are the good guys.

[@davidduszek709]

@@sylviam6535 do you have any hard evidence that, let's say, the Reuters is directly influenced by corporations in the same way as the People's daily is influenced by the CCP? Are you seriously trying to compare mainstream western media to the Chinese or Russian state media, which are casually calling their presidents "Supreme leader"?

[@MladenDjukic]

Splinternet is a two way stream, basically all countries should be marked red.

[@robertagren9360]

credit democracy

[@hawkingdawking4572]

No. Only countries like yours. Majority of the countries have at least Facebook and KZbin.

[@hawkingdawking4572]

@@MladenDjukic Welcome back and welcome back to the good old soviet times. Just for you.

[@mohmedbadr1947]

Very informative video, I like your narrative style. Could you please take the same point you discussed here and applied them to Starlink? What would the government do if Starlink is operating

[@suzygirl1843]

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Western internet is TRASH

[@Anne_Grapple]

Hello from Russia. Just want to say that I really doubt that our government would be able to fully isolate the whole country. Nowadays, the internet is a part of everyone's life so moving in our servers may take years upon years, let alone preparing those servers and PROPER testing, not just "they didn't explode after a day of work in a small town, we good" stuff. And I don't think the servers will last long. If a russian sees a hole, they will get as much profit from it as possible and make it big enough so a lot of people could have fun either, LOL. And modern censorship needed to grow stronger and start blocking VPN so we... could continue using VPN and even spread the info about how to make such a service yourself. So... yeah, it will definitely take a while. P. S. I read a few comments about Russians not knowing why Ukraine is being attacked. There's more than enough info about anything you like, bypassing censorship is still not so difficult - it's just the people that do not want to gain it; you know, living in a small info bubble where you are always liked and can say as awful thing abouts the opposition as possible, just like the flat Earth believers. And, unfortunately, those are usually the ones that scream louder than anyone else.

[@thelovertunisia]

They used to do deep packet inspection in Tunisia but it slows the web down enormously.

[@okman9684]

Only global south manipulates internet Meanwhile in corner Canada laughs at bill c11 Us laughs at Trump ban EU laughs at RT ban

[@mikelxc]

Think of it that way, after the TikTok instant, it is crystal clear that each country wants full control of everything. it just happened that the majority of the companies are Silicon Valley based.

[@UnpluggedAi]

Rajasthan (a indian region) cutting internet of entire state (region) just to prevent question papers leake during highschool exam atleast twice a year

[@aksfysal]

You missed internet based attack by other countries if you are not independent Like internet based financial services denying .

[@ProckerDark]

Exactly

[@arvind.b]

VLC website is unblocked in India 5 days ago

[@thetaomega7816]

why did that even happen lol

[@ordinaryperson-my7qr]

@@thetaomega7816 no fucking clue... But yeah it was a thing for few days *Months

[@kimeli]

are you really that afraid of offending America?

[@sumitbali9194]

Very informative video 👍

[@vahhidlelissa7653]

Very misleading on Ethiopia

[@yungunit8299]

"Authoritarian Governments" No. Protection from the US regime.

[@edenchristmasmonsee5544]

I’m watching this video from China 🇨🇳 using a VPN. Let That Sink In 😂

[@ordinaryperson-my7qr]

I AM CALLING WINNIE THE POO

[@kimeli]

where did you buy the vpn?

[@arranmc182]

Got a friend in China who says the firewall is a joke and super easy to bypass, to the pooint he uses non china steam with zero issues

[@HamguyBacon]

No, he is using a VPN, its common in china.

[@rfvtgbzhn]

@@HamguyBacon It's super easy and also rather cheap to use a VPN, so where is the contradiction?

[@HamguyBacon]

@@rfvtgbzhn VPN's are illegal in china,. its a common thing everyone uses a vpn to bypass restrictions, but if caught you will face punishment.

[@alifali4020]

The solution will be very simple each country has to build a country-wide network and the countries you trust to connect and deal with.

[@ring-tone278]

Freedom of the internet also led to abuse of the internet with peddling of incompatible ideologies and narrative.

[@eddiestilll]

every tech altar upload is always sucha banger :)

[@q1337]

Internet has less freedom every passing day. Regulations from one large nation affect the others in the current system and we all know regulators do whatever is convenient, nice looking and not necessarily functionally sound.

[@porkysharma8423]

And the freedom of the internet resides only in the hands of a single bloc of countries?

[@brennencox516]

@TechAltar Your thumbnail is wrong, the island of Taiwan doesn't belong to the PRC (and never has).

[@cheeseburgurcheese]

Crimea is Ukraine, lad........

[@allezvenga7617]

Thanks for your sharing

[@jmsbrone]

not my video stopping and going for indefinite buffer at 8:02 after talking about blocking packets individually lol

[@spotsnap]

Banning VLC was so dumb. Government should have aware the people of hacked VLC and only use official website, instead of banning it. Even though it was unban recently!

[@dominic.h.3363]

American sites that refuse to conform to GDPR have already been showing me the middle finger for the last couple years. Now I don't know what's going on with these restrictions, but the UN declared the access to internet a basic human right back in 2003, so the blackouts alone should be a human rights violation.

[@death_parade]

Even if the blackouts are to prevent riots or terrorist attacks? Because that is what they are used for in India. When there are vested interests that are using internet to coordinate mobs and perform information warfare with the intent to incite riots, shutting down the internet for a limited duration till police can capture the masterminds is a very valid and morally correct thing to do. Human rights do not exist in a vacuum. There are situations where they are sometimes mildly curtailed to ensure the existence of public safety and order.

[@dominic.h.3363]

@@death_parade Sure, go ahead and torture, maim, kill, and abuse a person every which way you want, because they are criminals, so they don't have human rights. If that's how human rights work in your head, you don't have a clue what human rights ARE.

[@IkeTurner2.0]

Separation is key to any civilization

[@Iskelderon]

Didn't help that the Five Eyes provided the perfect example of why information shouldn't always leave one's borders.

[@cyrilio]

This is why TOR is so important.

[@TheZachary86]

1) TOR is hard for normal people to use 2) it’s not full proof

[@excaliber2845]

@@TheZachary86 tor isn't hard to use but yeah it's not fool proof

[@porkysharma8423]

​@ramanauskiene edita A VPN literally hands over your internet data to a third party, so what privacy are you talking about?

[@mindawakening3873]

So happily allow foreign terrorists use internet and help them better communicate with each other so that they can coordinate well? Is internet (basically a connected network) that essential, that it is more important than saving lives?

[@brickman409]

Horrifying times that we live in.

[@oo--7714]

You aren't wrong about europe, certian "offensive " tweets are already geolocked if you live in europe or the uk, it's a bit of a pain.

[@quasiosa]

I hope Indian Internet becomes as robust as of Chinese.

[@Philotheist777]

so no porn?

[@烧炕战情妇]

没有边界的自由即无自由，互联网不是法外之地。

[@smile8034]

I believe that freedom of speech should be built on certain level of equality. If one government has block tons of stuff which they dislikes from outside, then others should block contents from that government, too.

[@bagatengris1802]

Routers machine profiles in wood pieces. A home DiY router in North America contains a 3/4 hp motor, as it draws less than 15 Amps at 110 volts.

[@SineN0mine3]

Can't tell if you're joking or a bot

[@DrDoktor60]

Satellite based internet connections says hi. In a few years the equipment will become very hard to identify and even harder to block. It’s a battle those countries will never win

[@paulmakinson1965]

Wait until satellite internet becomes the norm. It's like playing whack-a-mole. The greatest barrier is language. My French friends only access french websites and get a very partial view of the world, the same is true for the Russians and Chinese.

[@etbuch4873]

It was the Cato Institute of the US that invented this thing called Splinternet in 2001 and the host of this video is whining over it's wide acceptance around the world? Shouldn't the host of this video be proud that one more US value gains such wide acceptance?　After all isn't the US always coercing every other independent sovereign state to be subdued to the so-called "value based international order," where everyone knows it is the US-commanded value that the US demands all other independent sovereign state to subjugated to. And this Cato Institute invention of Splinternet happenes to fall right in the center of the US values.

[@BKLau70]

Sadly inaccurate in internet in China. - Roaming data access not restricted to FB, Google, ... - Have institutions with access to foreign webs, and stable. - So many in China have access to FB, Google, ... 😂 - I used VPN on local mobile line without issues.

[@kyaw3449]

Myanmar citizens are aslo facing the same situation, internet sensorship.

[@tropolite]

But Crimea is Russia. Has been since 2014. The West won't recognize it but it is. The people of Crimea voted on it back then.

[@MirceaKitsune]

In a real country, the preoccupations of a government are strictly economics foreign relations and (actual) public safety issues. In a parody of one, they government's preoccupation is culture and what citizens are seeing or thinking in their own privacy and minds.

[@porkysharma8423]

Guess we live in a parody then, since the US, through Google and other 3rd parties, try desperately to establish their own narrative, censoring anything that goes against theirs.

[@death_parade]

The real parody is this video that tries to imply that Indian internet blackouts and app bans are some sinister effort against citizens or freedom when in reality the internet blackouts are conducted for public safety in an area known as Kashmir that is witnessing terrorism originating from Pakistan and Afghanistan. Meanwhile the app bans are again to protect the people from Chinese apps, some of which have managed to dupe people off their money in the name of investment, while others act as mass surveillance systems of CCP. . But this video tried hard to make Indian Government look like the bad guy.

[@MirceaKitsune]

@@death_parade TLDR "it's different when we're the ones doing it".

[@death_parade]

@@MirceaKitsune How disingenuous! "Its different when we're the ones doing it"? NO! We aren't doing "it". We are doing something completely different. We are doing it to ensure public safety from terrorist attacks or Chinese CCP apps spying on unsuspecting Indian citizens. And we are doing so constitutionally in a sovereign, democratic nation. Don't try to conflate what we are doing with what an authoritarian regime like China does by calling both"it".

[@MirceaKitsune]

​@@death_parade Of course: Things like extreme censorship and surveillance are super duper different when a democracy does them to "stop terrorism" or "end hate" or "protect the children", even if that and ideas like digital ID just purely coincidentally look exactly like what China and friends have been doing all along. Things like freezing the bank accounts of protesters and trampling them with horses will never happen in the "free world"! The country with the highest incarceration rate and on the brink of civil war over some weird ideological obsessions is committed to fighting for the "liberal world order", the model we especially enjoyed over the past 3 years when a certain and also very real pandemic was handled most democratically everywhere in the free world 😉

[@Crashed131963]

Good luck with that. They been trying to stop pirate movie streaming sites for years. There is always a cleaver hacker the finds a away around things, The smart Chinese and Russians have VPNs.

[@abderrahimanasse5438]

This is the Marshall plan i talked about recently and gave few mentions before. USA & Europe will give States" clés en main" and Both above with their money and technology will build new continent which permit the Re-launch of worldwide economy

[@RhizometricReality]

This saddens me immensely. What global leaders we gotta kill, to open the net.

[@Kirillissimus]

"The net" has never been designed to be open - it was a US military funded project with reliability first and foremost in mind and then it was just adopted by commercial companies with a bunch of dirty ugly hacks on top of it after all the R&D has been successfully completed and all the technology has been tested. And with the rise of centralized global platforms it has become clear that if government will not control it then money loving bastards from the kinds of Twitter or Google will and giving them the kind of political power is far worse than giving it to the government. Basically internet itself is flawed and is clearly not fit for modern demands of a digital society so the only way is to create a new truely decentralized social oriented computer network that would allow for no technical means of controlling the flow of messages apart from completely shutting off some of its nodes and thus not allowing it to broadcast new messages to its heighbours and dedicated relays. But the problem is that such a project requires a lot of resources and since pretty much no big power is interested in something like that and the only resource regular people still have in any significant amount is their own time we will have to wait until any such technology matures enough for widespread use, and it will take decades even after that until we will all have it in our computers and cellphones. And no amount of dead leaders can speed up the process - they are just not capable of creating the thing we need, they could not do it even if they wanted to. Creating new things has never been a job of a government in the first place, its purpose is actually quite the opposite - making sure that as little as possible significant changes ever hapen as they always pose new risks and security issues and leaving things as they are as much as possible has always been the true goal of well established powers. So with that we are on our own, just as we have always been.

[@marcomarc151]

VPN: *say my name*

[@reggiep75]

Their choice, their country and people need to accept it rather than get bent out of shape for it. The internet is not equal, free or fair and is largely abused rather than used, so I can understand why it's done. Don't agree with the rule, access it in another way or leave the country.

[@ChasmChaos]

Ok, CCP.

[@reggiep75]

@@ChasmChaos - If insults are all you have, you've lost. 0/10 🤗😘🥰 Sorry for your loss, princess 👸👸👸

[@ChasmChaos]

@@reggiep75 well if the CCP says it, it must be true! Doubly so with emojis! I'll go wallow in my loss, dear pawn.

[@kimeli]

@@ChasmChaos he is right, you do not have any counter argument except insult, the people's voice will not be shut down. if you think he is wrong enlighten us on how he is wrong.

[@ChasmChaos]

@@kimeli If you don't think there's anything wrong, then I am definitely not the person who can cure you of your blindness.

[@EnzoMontecchi]

Excluding usa from Europe wound be awesome 😄

[@pabreo]

Then do it we don’t need Europe, they can have the Chinese firewall 😂

[@vb8648]

Best news channel ever. Keep doing what you do 🙂

[@cyrusjameskhan]

This is Cyberpunk dystopia coming to true....Some of the reasons we need larger scale implementation of web3 idealogies and frameworks. Thank you for bringing this information forward!

[@Ninjaananas]

When you have to protect your "values" from your own people because they cannot compete with other ideas.

[@christophermbolinanipower1667]

When You don’t want the west, especially to meddle in your internal affairs in order to destabilize your country through NED-funded Color revolutions that serve western interests.

[@zaetia]

Simplistic and naive take. Western governments/corporations wield a massive amount of control and influence on the global internet. They propagandise freely while censoring what is not in their interests. This is not a defence of the countries which are censoring the Internet for their citizens but this was bound to happen in the age of informational warfare.

[@dukisuki4112]

Some "values" are inherently intoxicating and addicting to the vast majority of any given population to the long-term downfall and failure of a collective society, like for example hedonism (or to put it another way, individualism to an extreme purely for the pleasure of the individual) or materialism. Religions from both the East (Buddhism) and West (Christianity, Islam) recognised this and for a very long time, categorised these as things and ideas to frown upon.

[@VisibleMRJ]

just like parents protecting their kids from puberty blockers because their ideas and values could not compete.

[@Ninjaananas]

@@VisibleMRJ Imagine treating fully grown adults as children who cannot take care of themselves. You probably also think slavery was just people taking care of others.

[@umi3017]

As long as we relay on mass infrastructure owned by "selected few" for connection, it's inevitable. We can only dream there could be a tech break though so global point to point communication could be done with hand hold device use 2 AA batteries and it can be 3D printed in everyone's bedroom. Until then, someone is controlling your net.

[@pangaeamenslijk9183]

If browsers enable DNS over HTTPS by default combined with most websites using HTTPS these days 99% of web filters on earth would be completely obsolete instantly.

[@FarnhamJ07]

They'd just blackhole routes to public DoH servers, and let's not forget that China, Russia &c. are already effectively requiring citizens to "trust" their own internal CAs, among other things. It'd only be a matter of time before they set up workarounds: they don't need to make it impossible, just annoying for anyone non-technically proficient.

[@venkateshravi4207]

Wow, first comment 🥇

[@КирилоХацько]

why did you mark Crimea as Russia?

[@lorenzolungo2]

This video is (as always) brilliant but I think it lacks one of the most important and interesting open questions regarding this whole topic being satellite provided internet and the obvious chines war against it, I have the bad feeling that this splinternet situation will be the cause of a war for control on the space surrounding earth

[@akshaysrivastavaofficial]

I am from India and I support open free global internet.

[@agrajyadav2951]

Which doesn't exist

[@akshaysrivastavaofficial]

@@agrajyadav2951 I have worked with Chinese companies and the level of control and authority the government keep on your activity is insane. Open internet does exist. All you need to do is get a good VPN.

[@arihantpatil3903]

I support the move made by GOI

[@death_parade]

So does Government of India.

[@yuseferitrea8619]

I am watching a lot media from the west they always speak chaina russia Iran an so on not only the politician those who normal channel like this why do care so much about others if they want non of ur bussness. They know it what they need for them. Every thing is clear like water what the west doing around the world. That's why they blocking the unnecessary video. Why do u speak abou Twitter Twitter block even ur own president. Why?

[@Mr.BobsDog]

+ Saudi and UAE restricting internet and VPN use. 😢😮

[@amusegame]

Contents are good.. only request is please rectify the India map

[@iuks2185]

This was fantastic

[@gyanwire]

Alian should have to come to earth in the next 10 years.

[@kennylex]

BBS and phone may do a comeback? I know that when I had a BBS with Frontdoor there was much traffic i some odd image groups, according to some those fractal like images did contain text or messages. To block phone calls within a country may be harder and even harder to ban image formats like PCX.

[@vylbird8014]

The ban has to be perfect. It just has to discourage people enough. If it takes twenty minutes of fiddling around to access EU or US news sites, most people would just read a Chinese site instead.

[@noonebeer]

We can all thank Cisco with building China’s Great Firewall. I hope everyone remembers this.

[@Dave102693]

Thanks Cisco for the global introduction of country-wide intranets!

[@mutedmutiny9542]

Yeah well, we can also thank Cisco for inventing the router, a crucial piece of tech that helped make possible what the modern internet is today.

[@noonebeer]

@@mutedmutiny9542 I thank Cisco’s founders for that. They were good people, and they left long before this happened. They didn’t leave on good terms either. They were kicked out because they didn’t want to rip of their customers, so their investors and Cisco’s board threw them out.

[@mutedmutiny9542]

@@noonebeer that is all true but to me it’s a bit disingenuous to look at something positive a company did and then limit that to a couple of “good people” vs a bad thing they did and smear the entire company with it.

[@noonebeer]

@@mutedmutiny9542 it’s even more disingenuous to ignore something really terrible that a company did just because you like their products.

[@hgos7211]

For China, on a trip I had in inner Mongolia pre-covid, I was able to watch KZbin/FB/Netflix just on China Telecom, merely because I purchased a 8GB data sim card from Hong Kong, and the firewall was completely bypassed without a VPN. I remember that it felt surreal that I was literally in the middle of nowhere in grassfields, yet I had a consistently strong 4G signal on the road, and was enjoying KZbin as if I was in the middle of a city.

[@sexyplexie]

... and then Mainland China brutally took over Hong Kong later. and they attempted (and failed) to shut down access to things like Twitch because there was unfavorable news coming into the country that countered what was being spewed by CCP/government mouthpieces. China maintains the illusion of access for as long as it is convenient. 2020 also showed that it will stop the exfiltration of data it finds inconvenient, and will resort to "disappearing" citizens to control information. As a result, today, whenever a notable scientist or politician dies in China we (outside of China) simply assume it was a State action to silence something they've done or will do, and we all assume China is an untrustworthy nation. The only reason China can operate this way is her people are not free, and will never be free, and China wants to assert this same level of dystopian control internationally. This is why their companies are banned from implementing government infrastructure, for example the united states government will throw away entire machines just for discovering a _transistor_ used to build a mundane circuit was manufactured in China. Zero trust.

[@good-tn9sr]

take this down so they don’t patch ut

[@hgos7211]

@@good-tn9sr It's designed that way, sim cards from HK/Macau gets to skip the firewall. Just surprised how well it worked in the wilderness of Mongolia.

[@wilsonedwards8139]

Sure? It sounds like pinkie propaganda to please someone not living in China. Anyway, it sounds amazing if someone dares to try again right now.

[@floridaman318]

@@wilsonedwards8139 why would it be hard to believe there would be decent cell service in that part of China? It may be vast in terms of territory, but it's still got 25 million people. Compare to Alaska. Alaska is only a bit bigger, yet has not even a million people, and cell service once you're outside of the anchorage metro and the touristy places in like the Kenai goes to crap or is non existent. Usually have enough to barely make a call or send a text, but definitely not streaming. Not shilling for communism but facts are facts. They only reason they even can is precisely because they diluted their communism with capitalism in the first place.

[@AP-mq9mm]

Not only cutting internet but also censoring it to massive levels, many might have seen how internet has gotten really small.

[@Alejandro-vp1op]

Like here but censring other contents..

[@rileander]

This is so jewish. This is the ADL’s wet dream.

[@1sonyzz]

very stupid thing to do

[@WolfSaviorZX]

lmfao what's the difference between Government Censoring things or Corporations who are in bed with Governments censoring things?

[@mannyheffley5481]

Metal gear solid 2 anyone?

[@outman3542]

maybe it is not ‘global’ internet, but American internet from the beginning, and now people just realized how dangerous this can be.

[@robertagren9360]

Internet haven't been free for a long time.

[@thecrab3128]

true

[@KevinFlynn_]

Exactly!

[@koskok2965]

Spot on. The illusion of totally equilateral flow of information that we all cherished was only ever real for information flowing between any two countries, excluding the US and provided that the US doesn't intervene to promote/throttle the outgoing traffic from one of the two. The relationship between the US and an other country was always heavily imbalanced and naturally favored the export and promotion of US culture.

[@abhishekkant839]

Exactly. google and facebook run lot of American agendas in other countries.

[@eldrago19]

One thing worth stressing is that the general political atmosphere can have a big impact on how ISPs implement filters. For example, when the UK ISP I work for was told to start blocking certain Russian news websites, we took the position that we would not do so as we did not implement our own DNS. Would we have done so if we lived in the sort of place where people get bundled into unmarked vans and never seen again - somehow I doubt it.

[@florianfelix8295]

In the US?

[@eldrago19]

@@florianfelix8295 The ISP I worked for was based in Britain. If that's not the answer, please elaborate on your question.

[@johanrg70]

You mean like the rest of Europe? First thing they did when the conflict started was flagg Russian news sites as propaganda and block them.

[@MrAdeelAH]

Who issued the request. If it was serious then how can you just say no. why would it be DNS based when anyone can bypass that. Doesn't make sense. I know if you access court ordered blocked torrenting sites that's done by ip by most isps. DNS is just for parental control stuff. Low effort.

[@alouisschafer7212]

UK needs a constitution that guarantees proper freedom. My government could never ever order an ISP to do such a thing and the ISPs don't even know what we do on the internet all that would be unconstitutional. They may run their own DNS Servers but those can't log user data and they can't run block lists on them.

[@sofiamn_05]

This feels like we're entering a second cold war, a world divided in two

[@andrewtodaro2874]

My thoughts exactly, only it’ll be digital.

[@Coromi1]

@@andrewtodaro2874 I wish it was digital. It is economical and violent. The Ukrain war is a war between Russia and most of "the collective west".

[@nekopop8159]

Since almost everyone is in the digital world, it will slowly go into their real world.

[@death_parade]

What "two"? I can't even see the two blocs. Its all a geopolitical mess of alliances and counter-alliances. There are no clear boundaries.

[@jirachi-wishmaker9242]

Many

[@JaySee5]

You forgot S Korea inadvertently cutting itself off by charging foreign (and domestic) companies bandwidth traffic fees. The politicians here might actually be dumber than Americans.😂

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

What makes u think this is inadvertent? Nothing works better than controling things at financial level.

[@JaySee5]

@@aniksamiurrahman6365 it screws everyone, even the domestic companies. The government doesn't get the fees. The internet companies need to keep track and bill each other for what data goes through who's lines. It's horrifyingly stupid.

[@houseofvenusMD]

They obviously did it on purpose. You guys spend too much time playing video games 😂

[@NeostormXLMAX]

You mean smart lol, not delibertly blocking, but incentivizing it financially

[@JaySee5]

@@NeostormXLMAX incentivizing shutting down the entire internet throwing the economy into chaos? Right... The country was in chaos when KakaoTalk was down for a day.

[@xander9460]

This is... Really sad and dystopian...

[@Head_Turnah]

A damn shame. Wasn’t perfect, but free flowing information was what made the internet interesting.

[@dnkal2875]

@@Head_Turnah I wouldn't call it free in contrast I would that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it. Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.

[@musadlamini4090]

My country Swaziland 🇸🇿 making the list for all the wrong reasons of shutting down the internet and committing atrocious acts of violence during the 3-day internet shutdown in 2021. That dark period taught us the goodness of having a VPN. Even to this day I always make sure that my VPN is on. I suffered some form of depression because of being cutoff the global internet. ☹️😰🥺 #Internetshutdown. Thanks for this informative research bro.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

5:10 I'm from Russia, I use internet daily from 2007, there was never a complete 'black-out' in our country, only sites banning and black lists.

[@yolantadianow1584]

Because Russia is and will be only country with human thinking. Putin is first Leader in the World 🌎. Who is talking and representing info as is happening. West has bs propaganda only. They lie all time. And people walking like 🐑 s

[@laser213]

@@vsr3777 yes I also think that because I am from India and using internet almost daily from 2014 and I haven't seen any blackout as mentioned in this video at 5:18

[@yarmgl1613]

@@laser213 for some reason some random websites get blocked like porn and videolan for some reason

[@danek_hren]

Yes, and everything is easily accessible via vpn

[@xtensionxward3659]

russia is trying to cut out VPNs entirely now and my company has always complaints to the internet providers it uses just for blocking ipsec encrypted tunnels . also they are banning youtube now by slowing it down on purpose to a high degree where viewers cant watch videos even at 270 resolution .

[@FAB1150]

This is depressing, it shows that we never got away from the "a small group of people doing stuff convenient to them and treating others like ants" system

[@an_orange8911]

That's how the non-Western world describes the Western world.

[@FAB1150]

@@an_orange8911 no man, it's the whole world.

[@getsideways7257]

@@FAB1150 Exactly. People naively believe that "somewhere in the world" there is more freedom. It's too late to be talking about freedom at this point - we all let it taken away from us under the pretense that "anarchy is bad for you!" Except decentralized governance is not really a complete lack of any sort of order. People are just lazy to come up with alternatives to somebody making decisions for them and also fleecing them (or worse) in the process. As long as the system is centralized AND is controlled by a small group of human beings, this world will continue its journey down the drain (and as long as people keep shifting their responsibilities onto someone else).

[@getsideways7257]

@@robertmusil1107 China's dictatorship is nothing compared to how the US has the whole world under its heel.

[@LiosProsum]

@@getsideways7257 I... disagree quite strongly. I think I get what you're saying about people delegating decisions to someone else. But can you imagine what kind of hell it would be, to have to coordinate every single decision of public interest with the "people". "Where should we build a new highway, a new school- who will pay for it, what should we do about this problem or that" and so on and on. Reaching consensus would be impossible or could take forever. Some delegation is necessary, that's why most countries are (at least on paper) representative democracies. Obviously this representation doesn't always work flawlessly, but I can't see any other more efficient system that also takes public attitudes into account. Also places with more freedom "somewhere in the world" definitely exist. It is no coincidence that a lot of people emigrate to the US, Western Europe, Australia etc, and basically no one to China, Russia and Iran. You could argue that it's just because they're rich. But this is (at least partially) because of good institutions that respect personal liberties and entrepreneurship. How can you found a new company or find a good job, when some authoritarian government can take everything away from you. I believe we shouldn't fall for this nihilistic "Oh you know, it sucks everywhere to some extent" and try to extend our freedoms. There have been great strides in personal liberties even in the last 20 years (e. g. equal rights for queer people). TL;DR: Some hierarchy is probably required to organize society, but we shouldn't despair and should fight for our freedoms and oppose autocrats.

[@thetaomega7816]

Thanks for this Information. Isolation is definetly increasing, not only for the Internet :(

[@vahhidlelissa7653]

Info on Ethiopia is wrong. I amin Ethiopia!

[@kimeli]

@@vahhidlelissa7653 are you really that afraid of america?

[@adityashukla7849]

It's the era of information warfare... Protecting your own self is not bad.

[@Dave102693]

It was inevitable that this was gonna happen.

[@luddity]

Protect yourself with a good VPN

[@shamuratov]

Thanks you!

[@randominho3564]

Protection or control obsession ?

[@MeiinUK]

It is not "informational warfare"... in the past, people complain that this is a form of "colonialism"... well.. This is now an actual "biased unequal business deals on a global scale".... Everybody wants to sell to the other person. But when you have a single buyer.. but around 1 million seller.. across the globe. WHO do you choose? Which country? Why ? If you choose China.. you will annoy Pakistan. If you choose India... you will annoy Japan. Now... Think about that for a moment. Cos it happens everywhere.

[@EvillNooB]

it is kinda depressing to realize that the golden age of the internet is over (i think it ended somewhere between 2013 and 2017

[@thepersonwhoasked..]

Everything went downhill since they killed that gorilla

[@dnkal2875]

It ended when US manage to dictate the whole of the Internet . It's just that now I will say that government are just waking up on how much control US has on the Internet and social media and how invasive it actually is to other countries for the benefit of the US military and government. And you can see that the countries that want to cut the control of US meddling in their countries are the ones that try it. Of course that doesn't apply to every country that wants to have restrictions on the Internet but it will be for the better if more countries did it for their protection as it has no difference when the Internet is already dictate by the US for it benefits, in comparison when countries do it it has more" benefits " and security from outside meddling.

[@Mkrabs]

@@thepersonwhoasked.. Tome III, Chapter 1: The catalyst was Gorilla

[@rhiannonwalmsley1878]

the decline started when the piping of the internet started to be privatised in the 90's and finished once the first social media networks became massive.

[@360stab]

I hope we can make comeback in the future. New technologies enable new solutions to bypass like VPN's do now against most of the blocks. Maybe new wireless communication solutions can make wide mesh networks possible.

[@fireispure]

When it comes to India, sometimes things are said without context or blanket general statements are made as if the whole country experienced blackouts - people fail to mention that only some specific regions experiencd it because the internet messaging apps and social media were being actively used to spread misinformation leading to violence. Also, rich countries like the US etc have much more sophisticated methods to control the internet and media in general. Hope people have heard of the Snowden revelations.

[@vicky116]

Agree India is so huge. A small city, section or region getting blacked out due to fake news especially fuelled by overseas actors from middle east or Pakistan or Chinese bots is extrapolated to the entire country. India has seen enough sustained campaigns of fake news and viral paid twitter trends majority tweets from overseas bots or paid actors causing havoc for citizens. And social media giants bases in USA have poked a thumb in the government's concerns and even supreme court orders. If they don't follow laws of India they are going to get docked for causing trouble in various parts of the country.

[@welwitschia3756]

The Bengaluru incident

[@ytuser78]

exactly , i was surprised to see india in red and thought , naah indian gov cant be that intelligent, but then he said backouts. another victim of western propaganda.

[@death_parade]

Exactly. People fail to understand how blackouts in a democracy are different from blackouts in an autocracy.

[@yolantadianow1584]

Not in Canada. They blocking well any info from outside . Like is NO world outside of that continent

[@samerm8657]

Proof that the reason we don't live in a real high tech society is old rules and narrow minded politicians ☹️

[@HamguyBacon]

You would be insanely pissed off to know the Level of technology being hidden and stolen from us.

[@conradmbugua9098]

don't forget mega corporations like big tech and bit oil

[@angryherbalgerbil]

It's just the death panfs of the medieval fuedalists still scrabbling to maintain their authoritarian relevance. It'll fall flat. You can't open up all the technocratic global innovations, and then just expect people to willingly accept a very narrow, watered down and filtered world. It's like trying to tell people cars and jets don't exist, or can only be used on certain roads and flight paths. Or it's like 1920's prohibition of alcohol. Free people will always chosse what is best for them, not laws or governments.

[@seanthe100]

Our species didn't change because we have internet we're still homo sapiens

[@Dr.Lakshit_ahari]

This is misleading. The Internet blackout in India were regional( Small cities and town). Internet only cut down due to Terrorist activities and Communal tensions. *My own city Udaipur was cut off from internet for 5 days due to a homicide by men with terrorist link. People were so angry that they were going to attack family of murderers. So Government ban Internet which was helpful to stopping violence* .

[@HemangxVyas]

He's European. He has zero idea about our situation on inside. He's just reading the black and white data with no reasoning.

[@dutybound5079]

It was inevitable, once countries began making laws for internet. Why should India follow EU's laws or Russia follow Indian laws or US follow Chinese laws... They are sovereign countries.

[@ghajik.]

well...GDPR is pretty nice to have, so i won't really oppose India needing to follow EU laws.

[@JeremyRight-zi4yp]

"We are a sovereign country" is code for "we want to violate you in our own way"

[@andrewreynolds912]

Sovereign is very important for countries china is doing a great job as far as I heard

[@shapelessed]

@@andrewreynolds912 A great job censoring what they don't like. Spying on and sentencing whoever they don't like...

[@andrewreynolds912]

@@shapelessed true, but you also have an account of how much information the United States government controls. I mean, Meta, Google, etc. works with the CIA and such to find information and control info to other countries. The EU doesn't have media companies like Meta, Google, etc and my country the united states controls what goes in and out and dictates what they can and will hear I heard the EU has been in maybe possible talks of its own Network internet separate from America

[@fantagons]

I am watching this from Ethiopia and you have a wrong information that Ethiopia is cut for 18+ months. I am a witness telling you the truth. This is a lie whatever your source is.

[@LaunchKaffee]

That was one nice thumbnail you made! (It may look a bit generic, but a big BIG improvement from your thumbnails from 2 years ago)

[@MegaLokopo]

I hope there is always enough demand for access to random things, that the trick of encrypting information yourself will continue to work. Steganography is a great way to bypass filters when encryption wouldn't work.