Getting Started with LoRa & testing Range in my City

In this video I have shown how to get started with LoRa Modules using your Arduino Board and I also testes how much range we get if we use this LoRa modules inside city
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[@whitedeath03]

It was my Final Year project in which I developed a Lora based Wireless Sensor Network for a Solar Plant Management. I successfully Implemented it in 130 MW Solar Plant and achieved 7 km of Range in open area and 2.6 km in urban. I implemented 42 LoRa Nodes, 5 Relay Nodes and 1 Master Gateway for communication. LoRa is really a future for WSN and IoT . Thank you for such a great video..

[@humzaiqbal9908]

Hello man, can you plz tell us which LoRa module you have used? and how much is the transmission delay between note and gateway?

[@creativeelectronicchannel7647]

Can you provide lora node code

[@joshflugel]

Those 7km were achieved using 5 relay nodes? How is range affected if you only use one relay note? Great project, very cool.

[@MrGrvx]

Great help...i worked on nRf modules in tranceiver mode and got the range around 400mtrs in urban area....I am searching for 20km range solution with minimum 2 video data transmitters and control channel....Any suggestion is appreciated! Thanks for this wonderful video.

[@vijithviswambharan775]

Everytime when I'm studying about LoRa, I felt like, If I had a girlfriend and her home within a 5km range then I'll definitely make a device to text her 24x7. That will be free ,non-traceable and no need to think about service recharges. Unfortunately I don't have a gf.

[@techiesms]

hahaha

[@ferencszabo3504]

Untraceable only, if you would use an encryption otherwise the link is an easy target

[@parthbhandari619]

How can we use this LoRa module?

[@vijithviswambharan775]

@@parthbhandari619 use lora modules with Arduino. Find the appropriate libraries from internet make the changes you needed. You can observe the transmitting and receiving signals in serial monitor of your Arduino IDE. If you want to make it mobile, add Arduino compatible display and keyboard to the setup. You may need to download more libraries. If the inputs/output pins are not enough to build l, go with an I2C module. Adding more libraries may end up in shortage of program space, if this happens you need to upgrade the Arduino to a higher one. This is the low cost set-up. If you want to do it much better use a raspberry Pi board.

[@parthbhandari619]

@@vijithviswambharan775 no I mean if we successfully make this what will be the application of this thing?

[@jimmymifsud1]

I love your energy man, your genuine passion bleeds into your work. Keep it up!

[@kaushalsuvarna1284]

I like the way how you tell the mistakes you made That helps a lot.

[@baseandtrance1110]

Bro just cant thank you enough, I wanted to buy a lora since long but was always confused for best range and now you saved my 1000 rupees as well as solved my problem. Thanks a lot , may your all wishes come true and god shower all blessings on you Thanks again

[@daSurrealist]

The best thing about techiesms is that he never hides mistakes. Also as a suggestion please provide links to resources that you found useful for a particular video.

[@TradieTrev]

There's never any links in the description hahaha

[@AnupamVipul]

dude great video but I would ask you to re-watch {LoraWAN: Extremely long-range, low power wireless communication } from Marco Reps he got the range of 2 km, not 20km (listen carefully at 4:01 mark ) and U will only get 20 KM with a directional antenna & if lucky as there are too many variables

[@jamiegoegebeur2239]

Wow never been so Early and them this is my favorite subject as well! I was hoping you where gonna touch on it. And I hear another hero from me already Andreas Spies. Gonna watch with great pleasure

[@masrursaqib]

Either I am working with mesh networking or the LoRa module, this guy is here to help. Thanks from Bangladesh.

[@ashoksamraj]

Nice video. Good to see you guys riding around with the LoRa module :) One thing, I believe LoRa's spreading factor is between 7-12 and not 6-12. I would be very interested to see some low power sensors deployed with the devices that you have and see some power numbers.

[@theghostguy5129]

Hi there, I suggest you to use high gain antenna and low bit rate to increase receiving sensitivity. Then you will have much more distance. Calculate the link budget to estimate the distance. All the best. Comment from Sri Lanka.

[@FDroid01]

I think the link budget is 154

[@debagchi1]

Excellent informative video. Though I am an IoT expert and Architect in one of the big giant company and having some patents in both s/w and IoT industry solutioning, still I watch your videos regularly because you are just like me..love to know what you don't know and Passion of R&D. Please keep it up.👏👏👏👍👍

[@wassimmehanna4402]

Fascinating experiment. I hope to see more experiments with a Lora Gateway / AES ecryption etc... Thanks for sharing!

[@s.husain6125]

I have developed Lora based agriculture sensing product which have 4 km of range with RFM95w lora chip module 6 month 18650 battery life and 10 min deep sleep time product is in final stage for production

[@antojslinjijo4596]

may i know what kind of low power microcontroller u used ??

[@s.husain6125]

@@antojslinjijo4596 STM32

[@antojslinjijo4596]

@@s.husain6125 looking intresting with single cell li-ion battery can withstand 6 months its awesome bro.

[@antojslinjijo4596]

may i know about your project abstract bcoz i am developing some balance charge baterry charging circuit so just get intrested into yours.

[@prakash52kar]

I would like to learn your agricuture project!

[@pedrogagey1101]

Thanks for such useful information! You walk through many issues that helps anyone to pay attention, or even avoid. You make it looks simple, that encourage me to try LoRa. Grateful, and subscribed

[@surfnexplore]

868Mhz is also not license free in India..chk at 7.29 in video. Is it possible to tune the freq between 865-867 Mhz for this module ?

[@goutammani2063]

no it is not. "The use of low power Equipment in the frequency band 865 - 867 MHz for (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices (Exemption from Licensing Reququirement" as per GSR No. 37(E)dated 10-Jan-2007 of WPC

[@peut]

Your videos make me very happy. The sheer fun is contagious. Thx.

[@souk-tv]

You better start making more lora videos as it's getting more popular in the US and UK. 😊

[@Abha-com]

Well, you introduced me to this technology, Thanks bro.

[@1974charrua]

High gain antennas will get longer range ,and even more range with a signal booster ,

[@abhibhatti1884]

Amazing.. it is a totally new things for me and lots of things i get to know from this video..

[@innospire3485]

Very Very useful experiment on Long range for LoRa Module. Actually I was planning to make project on in it and this Experiment will help me... Thanks a Lot Sir

[@nikka13131]

Thanks, guys for the genuine information. I am having two Lora modules for a long time but haven't hooked up yet.

[@raagamparmar179]

Oh yeah! Thanks for the 433 MHz info about India! I was going to do the same ! Good thing you realised before moving any further and I realised before beginning! :D

[@vineetranjan08]

There's a difference between LoRa and LoRaWAN. Please research about that. Also, LoRa's range depends on radio line-of-sight.

[@chiragparmar680]

In September 2012 the 433MHz band in India was delicensed for output power of upto 10mW or 10dBm. The RA-02 can be programmed to work under this restriction I believe

[@chahilpatel2993]

433mhz is allowed in india but you can't use full duplex communication you can't transmit and receive at same time but you can either transmit or receive and lora is half duplex in most cases and that loraWan receiver are Full duplex and need permission to install

[@PatrickHoodDaniel]

Same thing happened to me with trying to solder the wires to the first board. I had two of the solder pads just drop off.

[@GK-rr3fe]

You reveling such a amazing and different product👍🔥

[@muzammilsyed1223]

Great efforts bro, I realy appreciate the way ur doing...

[@parthbhandari619]

How can we use this LoRa module?

[@michaelcobb1024]

Thank you for fully describing your setup and providing code examples! - quite a few LoRa range test videos and websites have just stated a distance, without giving the LoRa parameters used (i.e what spread factor, bandwidth, tx power etc.) to back up their claims.

[@goutammani2063]

please do not misguide people. the frequency you are maentioning is allowed for RFID tag detection with short range / in-building application and not for long distance communication like LoRA. "Use of low power devices or equipments for indoor applications in the 433 to 434 MHz frequency range (Exemption from Licensing Requirement) Rules, 2012" as per GSR No. 680(E) dated 12-Sep-2012 from WPC

[@nikhilpotphode]

correct. Only exception is, it should not be used as any kind of tele communication (Audio/Video transmission) device.

[@multicopter]

Thanks Bro, cheers from Brazil!

[@rajunair2357]

Hi Could you conclude what frequencies will work in India ,If we purchasing 868 MZ lora gateway and Lora node with 868 MHz ,Will it be allowed as per Indian standard(865-867MHz)

[@aryangupta4252]

this is the best channel , period

[@aswinthraj9021]

All the testing videos you refered are LoRaWAN. You have tried Lora Node to node communication. Get a LoRaWAN gateway and communicate with a Node. You will easily get 20km in cities

[@techiesms]

But LoRaWAN ultimately has a LoRa module built-in and then it broadcast the data to the cloud using internet So first it's a node to node communication and then it goes to internet Correct me if I'm wrong

[@aswinthraj9021]

@@techiesms Not exactly, A LoRaWAN gateway is very different from a Lora Node. A gateway will have a lora concentrator module to increase range and will also help communicating with more than one node. You can Check out my article circuitdigest.com/review/laird-rg186-gateway-setting-up-a-lora-gateway-in-india for more information

[@sanjeycrypto805]

Bro can we use 868 MHz in India?? Is it legal because they mentioned only 865-867 MHz allowed..

[@nishadmadumalka5758]

i also have tested this with RA02 module ( 433 Mhz) with 3Dbi Antena in ground level. i could transmit 350 meters. I agree with your video. That's thrue.

[@ezequieladrianminniti6252]

There are lots of things that can be done to improve range. Yes, line of sight is one of the most important things. But you should also consider that signal gets lost and reflected on each connector and low quality antenna. The video of Andrea Spiess, he showed how you can improve range by increasing gain in the receiver, because increasing transmission power in the transmitter is not allowed by law.

[@GoatZilla]

Bro. It has castellated edges for a reason. You don't solder wires to the edges and then solder those to a header. You solder the header directly to the PCB.

[@varunnerurkar9418]

Nice work! Good on you for not giving up on getting a good range. But, and I have to state this, 868 Mhz is also an illegal frequency. Most standard modules that you get in the market are either 433 Mhz, 868 Mhz or 915 Mhz. Unfortunately, NONE of these are legal frequencies in India; one would almost be convinced that 868 Mhz is allowed, but it is still a whole Mhz beyond the acceptable unlicensed frequency range, which in India is between 865 and 867 Mhz only! Still, this is just a technicality. If you're doing this for a home project, I don't think the Wire Planning Commission (WPC) would mind.

[@TechnicalScientistRM]

Amazing Video Brother 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@luckyking166]

tell me ,tht HOW many times u misspelled the word LORA to LAUDA TRANSMITTER

[@makers_lab]

You meant mispronounced not misspelled, and you just can't decode the Indian accent very well.

[@sandeeptembare]

7:07 Initially watching the video I do feel something is going wrong but wait let's just complete the video. I think mistakes teach us the most valuable things and thanks for sharing them. Really appreciate your efforts.

[@thisisjoyjacob]

Such a amazing journey. Matlab soch hi liya tha k LoRa ka hi video banana hai .. so after this many mistakes you still went up and achieved the signal. Great efforts 🙌

[@techiesms]

Yeah

[@aman5655]

i used lora ra02 and got a range around 5 km in open area

[@digitalzoul57]

Thanks very much for this vid

[@krishnawa_]

great project and wishing you all the best

[@shubhamsirvi482]

None sight of line 500meter which module is best

[@nawinlifehacks9978]

Thanks for conclusion...☺️

[@MINUZPLUZ]

Waw. Very informative video.

[@jayashreegarments925]

This kind of modules are good for farms that are huge and have lots of data to collect from soil like moisture etc much more

[@s.husain6125]

In india 867 fqn is only allowed ...

[@AshishKumar-io9pg]

Then which module to use to get atleast a 1km range

[@prashantpitroda2385]

you just made a case study like video..amazing information you have given...please do more videos on Lora and tell us finally that which modules we can purchase because that soldering and replacing that chip is not seems easy. thank you for sharing such a nice information.

[@prillewitz]

My name is Andreas and I approve of this message.

[@dhaneshdprabhu8482]

It was a really good video about LoRa. Thanks for providing the links for purchasing these modules. Myself and friends are on a project on Predictive maintenance of wind turbines using LoRa. I am from Trivandrum and now I have my winter vacation. Is there and internship vacancy in Techiesms.??????I am in 3rd year of my BTech in Instrumentation.

[@techiesms]

Where r u from?

[@dhaneshprabhu72]

@@techiesms Trivandrum, Kerala

[@phaobi]

Very Great team,great video,great explanation and everything so really great, Thank u so so very very much n God bless u all always........

[@techiesms]

Thank you 😊 Just keep supporting keep loving 🥰

[@creativeelectronicchannel7647]

Hi I try this project it's work well but after 10mins it is not communicate eachother automatically disconnected any solution for this

[@manisharathi2486]

Are the transmitter module and receiver module are same??

[@jitu1973]

you can use RF amplifier which is easily available in amazon and increase range up to 100km or you can contact a electronic engineering student we can make it

[@ahaveland]

If you do that, you will be heavily fined or go to jail!

[@prajwalkn9726]

Sir i am using lora sx1278 for my home agriculture purpose. But while i buying it showed its range as 5km,but it's not even crossing 300meters,please help me sir....

[@RailyardProductions]

In a city area could you set up a network of nodes in a line of sight system? Maybe a group of like minded people could contribute.

[@virajd2817]

Sir why u don't use a drone to achieve a great height it might give u a great range and use a long antenna it will work.........👍❤👍❤

[@jeetz12]

Great bro i think within 2 year you will be the master of iot and other project on KZbin 👍🏼👍🏼💚💚👍🏻👍🏻

[@lidheesh1000]

Very helpful video.. thanks bro..so 433 mhz we cannot use and need to go for 867 mhz..i need to send temp data and water level reading using wireless.. Thanks for information.

[@ferencszabo3504]

3 km is not so bad, bro! Compared to the now old school nrf, this is a whole new game

[@abhishekkuksal5700]

433Mhz is an ism band but with much limitations..but these modules do not comply with India's 433Mhz range, just only only frequency that is allowed with that power is 865-867Mhz. Cheers

[@W9HJBill]

Well, if you get one antenna at 1273m (4176) high and the other at 542m (1778 feet), you too can get a 201km range like Andreas Spiess did.

[@nusermane1076]

Nice project and good video quality!!! Consider using a lavalier microphone, to cut down on the echo of the room, since it makes understanding you harder 😉

[@karthikyerra2916]

What if I want to use 433MHz , then hiw to take license for it ?

[@branch929]

Hello, i need send data in a city, between two radios, using transparent mode, 9.6k and 115200, what radio do You recommend?

[@GauravRathi-pb8oc]

Nice!!

[@vannancherry]

Amazing video nicely explained out clearly your difficulties faced and how to overcome it , and we await the exiting projects out of it soon ., Ad you said 433Mhz is a frequency which is prohibited almost all places ., Thanks for the video .,

[@bosetti4102]

im using the lora with an ESP32, and your code, but what's mean the A1 variable ?

[@straightup7up]

Is lora suitable for short range settings like an apartment building with no line of sight? Can it pass through walls?

[@gogreen6604]

Love your videos, very educational. However, I am a MSc chemistry guy and don't really know much about programming. Can you make one video covering the very basics of arduino interface? I really don't know where to start when it comes to the program part of these projects. Thank you, much appreciated

[@californiakayaker]

I was surprised you used a Mega board. Did you need that much processing power ?

[@jimedgar6789]

Awesome!

[@snehasharon6456]

Hello I need this solution for water management in my 7acre farm and would pay for it please help

[@Nithin7860]

If you want to have more distance , you should take care about the fresnal zone of the antenna.

[@undefined9739]

Can I use nano audruno for this work?

[@manuelmaglunob214]

It is possible to limit the range of LoRa to a specific range of distance using microcontrollers.?

[@ankurshah3852]

I use Lora ra-02 433mhz Rang test above 600 meter..

[@AshishKumar-io9pg]

The working range of LoRA in India is 865-867, but you used 868mhz, hows it possible, and please help me where i can get a module with the indian legal range?

[@dtec5993]

Can we use it in commercial products without certification from LORA which cost more than device development cost itself.

[@Vikas_Singh_Kushwaha]

433Mhz LoRa is not leagal band in india ! Only 868Mhz version of LoRa should be used! You can buy dragino LoRa shield or esp32-LoRa all 868Mhz version they are good for getting started

[@rohiniik]

LAP E01 voice transciver device.it uses LoRa.along with it which module here used?can you plz tell me

[@youngkevinsmith]

The lower the rssi is it the longer the signal takes to get to the receiver, therefore sensitive to time sensitive application where you want the device to receive the message at a particular time intervals?

[@maharaj6464]

Hi bro which is the best outdoor lorawan gateway. how to select an outdoor lorawan gateway

[@jntkumar10]

what is the syntax of code for getting int value using lora? i found problem while getting integer value.

[@raagamparmar179]

10:34 I think you meant *the odometer* The speedometer of the scooter is 0! :D

[@blueleafanimation7859]

Thanks a lot very helpful information.. We can use 868Mhz frequency in India?

[@Codebyakshay]

if we do so how the authority can find us tell us ?

[@rickharold7884]

Love it!

[@ankurnaidu]

Hey 👋, great project,love to do it,could you please also make a project like a walkie-talkie or a Morse code transceiver using LoRa?,that would be great, thanks

[@avijitpal1421]

What does this module actual do? Purpose of use ?

[@VikasHacker]

sir can i use 915mhz lora in india it will work?

[@rocketraze]

868 is allowed in india....?

[@vedantjoshi1487]

@techiesms bro I ordered the same module that you ordered but... before watching your video.. and now I'm worried about how to solder the pins. Can you give any solution on that pleeeeeeaaasseee...🙏🙏

[@trickmosers126]

Is there any device to increase the mobile signal