Assembling my Hidden Home Cinema with the LG PF1000U Minibeam Ultra Short Throw Projector (REVIEW)

See how the LG PF1000U 1080p UST 3D LED projector enabled me to create a hide-away 95" home cinema.
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[@Techmoan]

Reading through the first few comments there seems to be a bit of a theme along the lines of...I could hang something from the wall, paint the wall white etc. I quickly went through my requirements at the beginning of the video, but perhaps people are skipping past this, so let me explain my objectives here. This all starts off with the fact that I prefer to watch normal TV shows on a screen only up to 65" in size. Anything larger than that and the normal shows, (e.g. the evening news) look oversized. This is handy because I also like the look of the OLED TVs from LG as a potential replacement for my Plasma and they are starting to become more affordable(ish) at the sizes up to 65" Beyond 65"the prices for OLED TVs go crazy. Then on the other hand, I prefer to watch films on the largest screen I can fit in the room (which happens to be 95") - a 95" OLED TV is out of the question, so that's where a projector steps in. Other stipulations are.... 1) The whole setup (projector and screen) must be able to be hidden away completely leaving almost no trace. 2) No brackets or attachments can be put on any wall - not even a little hook or a shelf. That's just how it is. 3) The projector must go at the front of the room rather than at the back because there is now a large couch there. 4) The TV is remaining in situ - it will be used for the 90% of the week that I'm not watching a film on the projector. 5) I only have one room which is used for TV viewing during the day (and when the lights are on) and as a cinema in the dark. Now I'm aware that you can get a 1080p projector and possibly achieve a better picture for a much cheaper price - in fact I said so at the end of the video....but this particular video is all about the LG PF1000U - it's a new projector on the market - one of the first UST (Ultra Short Throw) 1080p projectors available and I thought that some people would want to see how it works. I know that this is a very specialised device - but since I was buying it anyway, it seemed sensible to make a video about it for anyone else who wants to know how/if it works. I expect that that there will be many people in situations like myself who want a large screen but don't have anywhere to mount a projector - these new UST projectors can make it possible. Thanks for reading.

[@TmanUtube]

Thanks for putting this (and the same goes for your other reviews also mate) up. This is something I'd had in mind for my lounge room. Just one thing though, did you find there was a distracting spill reflection back off the screen & onto the ceiling? I had notice this happened in the show room of other short throw projectors. I assume this would tend to be a short term distraction I guess once you're int the thick of a block buster movie 😉. Other wise some kind of block out umbrella over the screen maybe needed. I can't see yours or my Mrs letting us paint a section of the ceiling black! Once again well done.

[@dcplanbful]

+Techmoan great solution! Maybe I try this myself. Good video by the way.

[@nashonabo821]

+Techmoan This may be a stupid question but do you think it would be possible to put two of these LG UST projectors next to each other for less washout? I know very little about projectors but have seen videos of people putting two next to each other to improve the color in a lit room

[@improver1849]

+Nasho Nabo You've seen people do that with other projectors, or with this one in particular? That's a really cool idea! I'd love to see links if you got 'em.

[@aidanstenson7063]

We have a 4K sony Tv thats maybe 2 years old and noticed lines down the middle could that be a sign that it is failing the model is Bravia XBR-65X900A

[@usfdave10]

Never knew short throw projector like this even exist. My room is too large and with a fan in the middle mounting a projector in the ceiling is to hard or behind it and the distance is too far. This would be very ideal. Thanks for another great video and opening my eyes to more possibilities!

[@Techmoan]

+usfdave10 Thanks - and that's the exact reason I made the video - these types of projectors are very new to the market and not very well known about, so it's great to be able to demonstrate something that not everyone has seen.

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

+Techmoan what model is your plasma and what caused the failure? The buzzing is coming from the television?

[@Techmoan]

+digitalblasphemy1100 The buzzing was the mic picking up the screen RF interference. The buzzing can't be heard in person. This particular plasma is one of the last of the Samsung plasmas models. It had a good picture, but the panel failure rate is ridiculous. When I rang up to try and get it repaired under warranty, the repair company told me they had got three calls about the same model with the same fault that day. Looking on the forums, once the panel is replaced it's more than likely to fail again within a few months....so that's the end of my relationship with Samsung TVs. I already couldn't stand the way the whole operating system worked with the stupid pop up messages that couldn't be turned off warning me about features and updates I didn't use. I'll be glad to replace it with a 65" LG OLED as soon as a model comes out with the features I want, at a price that I can afford.

[@digitalblasphemy1100]

Techmoan that's a real shame because I believe that is the same model I have minus the smart tv features that I can't stand. Mine doesn't give me updates unless I use a thumb drive to do it so it doesn't prompt me that features are out of date. Every device I have hooked to it has access to the same smart features the television have so it's just a waste. I hope mine doesn't go out. I only just purchased it a year ago.

[@kudosm7831]

+Ken “DocDelete” Davidson Bro that's plasma's not samsung stupid.

[@GadgetAddict]

That's fantastic. Very interesting how close you can put it. Very neat and tidy.

[@DrxSlump]

I'm still using this projector, it's excellent. However, I must warn everyone who's about to get this or any similar ultra short-throw beamer: the projection surface must be completely flat like a wall. Virtually any fabric will never be completely flat and due to the way light is being projected from a relatively sharp angle, there will be a lot of distortion. Use the projector on a white wall and the picture will look perfect. I will also recommend a plastic dust cover for the model, they're available online.

[@KennethLawsonAuthor]

Great video as usual. I know this is over 2 yrs old now. I would be interested in seeing a revisit of the setup and any changes you've made over time, Upgrades furniture etc. How about adding a 4 K projector? and integrating it with your sound system and other technologies. Ie Google Home, Alexa etc. Keep up the good work.

[@bobwoolcock]

Very impressive distortion correction and alignment set up routine. Although that wavy screen is a drawback. The only alternative would be to buy, as you already covered below, the special paint for the wall but then you'd need a rack to lower the regular TV out of the way and the Mrs would lose the dark colored decor paint on that wall. This is silly trying to out think Mat :)

[@bc057]

Thanks very much for sharing your experience setting up with the pull up screen, and the LG UST projector. I think your setup is perfect for some people who cannot drill holes on ceiling, and run cables behind the walls, especially for renters. The projector certainly filled with features, but 1000 lumens is definitely too weak. It is a very new type of projector though so hopefully in 2-3 years we will have something in 2000 lumens range

[@frollard]

The brilliant part of DLP for me: video games. Super fast response times (note the direct comparison at the end compared to the plasma) as well as the no-burn-in nature of dlp micromirror arrays. Since even at full on/off the mirrors are still oscillating at several kilohertz, holding them on or off doesn't wear them out.

[@cv6473]

Your review conviced me to buy mine. Thank you for doing such great work. Ive been loving every single thing I watch on my. Picture quality is beyond what I hopped for at a mass 120 screen. And i'm projecting it against a white textured wall.

[@dstrbd223]

Watching Techmoan watch Techmoan. Thats some inception stuff!

[@TheGoldenTrout]

This is the best review for this projector on KZbin right now. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@sweetestperfection90]

My kittens smashed my telly... so now I've decided to find out about projectors. And of course Techmoan, you're my trusted starting point. Six and a half years down the line, can you give any up to date advice on projectors? (I take it as a good endorsement of the LG one that you haven't covered a newly purchased replacement projector since this video). I'd love one that had built in UK digital TV tuning as I used to enjoy the snooker and other sports on my television until the cats intervened.

[@richardlincoln886]

Late to the party here, but That alcove looks like it has possibilities for hiding a pull down - i.e. extend the pelmet across the room/alcove area and hide a screen behind it... Notwithstanding your initial requirements not to impact the room too much.

[@st3vieuk]

I find your videos thoroughly entertaining and bought items based on your opinions .. glad I stumbled across your channel. Keep'em coming - maybe one day I'll bump into you in town. Ride safe and great work..

[@Techmoan]

+st3vieuk Thanks old chap - it's a pleasure.

[@SyntaxErrorGeek]

thanks for this. I will be moving to an apartment in the coming years and I still want that theatre style experience in the smaller space. keep these videos coming.

[@jetjazz05]

My favorite part of having a projector was taking it to a friend's house, hanging a sheet on the side of the house, drinking a couple beers, and putting on a good movie. We'd make it take up the whole side of his house (he lived on the edge of some woods so he had no neighbors). Was pretty cool. I moved a few years ago, and the projector was preeetty bad, I think I just left it at his house heh.

[@Alexander_l322]

That projector literally has the software from the LG TV just with the extra projector settings. I think that's great to have.

[@BatteryExhausted]

Interesting point. Just like the 'sound quality of speakers' issue, we can't really tell if the black bit at the bottom really disappears when the light is off from this video. The exposure settings of your camera and the post production brightness controls determine this. We just have to take your word on this. ;)

[@meandmyEV]

I know this is a very old video but I wanted to check out short throw projectors and remembered that you had made this video. These projectors are much easier to find now so like others have asked, I'd be interested in knowing if you have made any changes to the set up.

[@05subisti]

I haven't ever put much thought into something like this but it sure is an awesome idea. Seems like a perfect solution to accomplish what you wanted.

[@Tomyb15]

The projector seems amazing. It hass all the features that I would ever care about including dlp (for those deeper blacks) and since you say there is no noticeable rainbow effect then even better. But what I like even more is how neat everything turned out! This projector combined with the pull up screen was a really clever idea.

[@sheppy1243]

Just wondering if you are still using this, if so how’s been after a couple of years

[@RexFinish]

Just wondering if you are still using this, if so how's been after a couple of years

[@matchthemoon]

Just wondering if you are still using this, if so how’s been after a couple years

[@davesworld7961]

Just wondering if you are still using this, if so how's been after a couple of years.

[@davidcrimminsiii]

Just wondering if you are still using this, if so how’s been after a couple of years

[@sheppy1243]

Well it’s been a couple of couple years on, just wondering if you are still using this, if so how’s it been after a couple of years

[@biggles1024]

G'day Mat, once again you've introduced me to a device and a technology (Ultra Short Throw) that I didn't know existed. I'll certainly keep this in mind when I move into my new house next year. Cheers, Mark.

[@markg.8043]

Some people simply paint the wall area a flat grey color/ paint, and that can save a lot of time buying/ pulling up a screen.

[@firesurfer]

There is also screen paint that you can buy.

[@Jerbod2]

Proper projector that! I'm not someone who's been into projectors all that much, especially since you don't get to see a lot of them since the good ones like this one are expensive. Regardless, good to see there are proper ones out there nowadays.

[@hedgehog3900]

Not sure if i am seeing picture quality the same way you do but the watch footage looked absolutely pin sharp.amazing on such a huge screen. I don't watch films much but if the wife saw this my new bike plans might be shelved :) Thanks as ever for interesting content.

[@Techmoan]

+Hedge hog It looks pin sharp in person too.

[@sellersgarner]

3 Years later, and UST Projectors are getting plenty of attention. Great video as always, I missed it back when this one was uploaded, I'm trying to make some projector decisions myself now, and this was nice, even being a bit dated. Always enjoy the channel a great deal, thanks as always.

[@backofficeshow]

This is really neat. We used to have a project setup a few years ago but really found it to be too low a resolution, too noisy, too hot and the screen had a strange DLP rainbow effect when your eyes panned across it. This technology looks quite encouraging to try a projector setup again - though for the money, you would buy a LOT of cinema tickets!

[@Techmoan]

+The Backoffice I haven't been in a cinema for years. All that rustling of sweets, chatting, texting, crazy snack prices. The last few films I saw at the cinema were out of focus, the sound went out of sync and was much too loud and there were marks on the screen where people had thrown things at it. Then there's the drive home afterwards in the dark, and that's if your car hasn't been broken into whilst you were watching the movie. Give me a home cinema any day - I can sit there eating my own cheap snacks, drinking a whisky, skip back if I miss something and pause the film to go to the loo.

[@backofficeshow]

+Techmoan I hear you sir! I only go a couple of times a year, and when I do it is on a Monday or Tuesday at the end of the movie's run. So basically the whole place to myself. Still, if the set-up cost say £1000, that would equal 66 premium VIP seats, so at two movies a year for two people, around 15 years worth of cinema? I need some other compelling reason to justify it, ummm I will think of something :)

[@chk230]

For all the Europeans (And Australians) watching this Video: Europe version does not have SmartTv, DLNA and Magic Remote, it's just a dumbed down version of this for the same price. Y U DID THIS, LG?

[@Channel7331]

I think this comment should have more recognition. The model which includes smart TV is called PF1000UW for web os. It's not a deal breaker, but I wish I had known that before I bought mine

[@edstar83]

Because Life's Good.

[@mmj19833891]

Get android tv box or nvidia shield tv and make it super smart

[@Retrotech_nerd]

chk230 you forgot about us kiwis

[@grosdingo13]

This is why i buy all my techs with internet. France is sucks.

[@Applecompuser]

Here in the US, 70 inch flat screens are selling for $500.00. Even a Sony is going on sale in that range. It may be time to put a jumbo flatscreen in your alcove. Check with the misses. PS If you ever visit the States, you have a FREIND who is about 35 mins from NYC. You are welcome to see a NYC show and stay for a visit. Best regards.

[@JhonPereda]

This is something that I will probably never get for myself because I can't afford it or have the expendable income for, but I still watched your entire video. Thanks for sharing all your cool toys with us. Love gadgets and love your videos. Keep it up!

[@sealmeatisbestmeat1241]

Hey Techmoan this is a little weird but i love your videos and you remind me of home. I moved from the U.K to the U.S years ago and sometimes miss the small things about living there. For some reason your videos make me feel less homesick. Keep doing what you're doing, love your videos.

[@CraigMansfield]

Pretty good. The only thing I don't like is where the material has a slight bend in it, and it bends the image. But it's nice and sharp. Your room looks nice as well.

[@ProTasiable]

Is your living room Sponsored by Cadbury?

[@DiskSystems]

I'm screaming.

[@Selrisitai]

I don't know what you mean by this, but it's funny anyway.

[@MrDegsy69]

@@DiskSystems That's definitely a classy Jason King classic 'porn' interior if ever i seen one? All it needs is pimping up with some huggy bear faux fur throws and shag pile carpets. Perfect for that latest Colour Climax grumble flick audition! 😂😂😂

[@MrOrchardsWorld]

I assume Mrs Moan takes the lead on home decor :D

[@malanigajanayake9153]

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[@TheDropForged]

Excellent video as always. I have short throw projector (not ultra short throw like his) since my room was small to accommodate regular projector. It's brilliant for smaller rooms like mine. At a distance of 1 metre from the screen, it projects image of 100 inches.

[@OldManTheseDays]

Just purchased one of these on Amazon to replace my 65" 4K LED. I'm moving to the UK soon and my US TV set is an unfortunate casualty that I won't be able to bring. Thanks for the review, I think this will work well.

[@ianz9916]

I used the Hitachi ED100 ultra short throw for the drama studio in the school I used to work in but this is a far nicer piece of kit. The one thing I would mention when reviewing projectors is the life span and cost of the lamps. As I say, I worked in a school and we had to live within a small budget. One of the first considerations was the lamp replacement costs as some lamps were almost as much as buying a new projector.

[@inspirationtoday7550]

It makes you wonder why all these years the projector makers didn't think to really build most of them to run closer to the screen and throw the picture up and forward. I know some could , but you hit on something that would definitely make more sence to do with projectors , instead of the old fashioned method of positioning the projector.

[@segagenesis1989]

Projectors are now redundant. TVs are getting bigger, the quality of the picture is getting better and the cost is coming down. If one was forward looking, one could "project" that this was eventually going to happen.

[@nothanks100]

Techmoan your the best at explaining everything.i still say they should have you on a segment of a local show doing what you do best explaining electronic things to people to whom a lot of it is normally over their heads like myself.Good Job as always keep up the good work my friend.I Thank You so much .Drohegda

[@alanduncan1980]

A rare glimpse of Techmoan in his natural habitat! Lovin' it! Proper geezer!

[@MarvelDcImage]

I thought of this set up for my space but the store had a holiday sale for a 65" Haier for under $800 so I popped for it. I could not tell that the picture difference between that and the more expensive cheaper HDTV LCDs. I use an old cabinet flip top radio, turntable and 8 Track stereo which still works (but I don't use) as the TV base.

[@SmartGadgetShow]

I have 120" electric screen :) I do not have a cabinet as my sound bar fits under TV. I have enough space to keep mine on a stool at the back of my room. I plan to put it on ceiling then paint the cables white. or use white trunking. But that device looks good quality.

[@agmills86]

Had the projector for 2 weeks, it's great, after a screen now, the one you linked is now discontinued unfortunately, seen a similar one by Luxburg, I don't have a lot of space so may even have to bring the feet in slightly, not sure how unstable that will make the thing, still may go ceiling or wall mount but don't want any more holes in my walls

[@davepusey]

Being stored down on the floor, how well does the screen do at staying clean from the usual muck and dust that one tends to get down in those areas.

[@mark314158]

Very nice vid. If you are keen on carpentry I suppose you could make a little shelf on the back of your cabinet just deep enough to hide the screen. Then you would not have to reach right down to pull up the screen and screen tension might be improved.

[@Techmoan]

+mark314158 the back of the cabinet has removable doors and isn't made from quality timber, but it was something I considered.

[@Hirnspatz]

What kind of a cabinet is that where the doors are on the back? :-$ :-D

[@gvzh8]

I had never considered a pj before, as I love in a rented flat. The pq looks surprisingly good - I will investigate them further. Great video!

[@johnmichaelrichards]

Looks like a great option for upgrading from my 5 year old Panasonic neo-plasma TXP-50GT30 in the limited confines of my terraced former factory house which was build in 1834 - long before any AV equipment other than the wind-up cylindergramaphone

[@RichardServello]

When I was specing UST pjs this was the most complete review I found. Convinced me to get the PF1000U. I love it! Excellent choice! Thanks!

[@stonedcommander]

Going back at least 23 years ago I helped a friend hang one of these types onto a metal frame he had built that hung over the sofa...So heavy it could not be bolted into the ceiling...Felt like 150lbs. and took 2 of us to hold it in place while he screwed it in...Terrible picture compared to this...This is a Cool setup and would breath some life back into anyones movie night.

[@guspaz]

I've got a similar screen, a 16:9 80" pull-up model from Da-Lite. It also has a little bit of wavyness, but it doesn't seem nearly as bad as the one you've got here, so different designs would seem to work better or worse in that regard.

[@br6768]

Wow does that look good for being projection. I love the idea of being able to project your screen anywhere vs a traditional panel tv hung wall. I just usually dismiss projection because it always looks washed out.

[@CurryKitten]

Very interesting - I looked at that and though "surely that's going to distort the image in that weird mirror", but it looks really good. What a great solution for the space you have

[@MikeAustin2012]

+CurryKitten It is " that weird mirror", that enables this box to project the image from the extreme angle and from so close to the screen. My Mitsubishi 57" DLP uses a very similar mirror and an even crazier looking lens to keep the cabinet down to about 10" deep. You can project from the back side of frosted glass or plastic and the image is MUCH brighter. I imagine that turning the brightness down would reduce heat and allow it to perform much longer. Just a thought...

[@CurryKitten]

+m AUSTIN Yeah - I got that's how it was working, but it still looks like magic that it can reflect up an image so well like that :)

[@Athrunwong]

Gosh, this will work great on my tiny apartment. Thanks.

[@HansKeesom]

Thanks you so much for this video, just shows how practical this little gem is in normal houses for normal people and can I say : normal budget. Yes it is not 4k but I am really wondering how much one is missing out there, certainly as for 4K one has to pay an extra 1000 euro. this is a video I can show to people so they get an idea how to turn their tv-setup into a movie-setup.

[@astrotrance]

Dang, that looks like a fun projector. What an elegant solution for a smallish room!

[@integrativebodywork]

Thanks for a great review!! I appreciate your set-up, as I live in a small NYC apartment, where I also work from home. Having a large TV screen or a drop-down screen just won't work for me. I was already planning on doing something akin to what you have done. Can I ask--how many feet from your screen are you usually seated when you view the 95" screen? Thanks again!

[@fistofthesnortstar]

I'm so glad that you had the same "dilemma" as the one i currently have, i don't need to replace things yet but it was already going through my mind, thanks for this !

[@Techmoan]

+Camiel Hirschberg No problem, glad you found this useful.

[@marztar]

+Techmoan would that heater distort the projection screen? it's awfully close to things. will UK ever do away with those big cumbersome things?

[@JamesGeddesTV]

I have now purchased this projector primarily due to your recommendation, so thanks!

[@mspark400smith2]

I don't know of it's needed here but the replacement cord you used did not seem to have a ground plug and there is one on the unit. Probably not huge but might be worth grounding properly.

[@inshadowz]

I think I just fell in love and will have to fight the missus tooth and nail to be allowed to have that projector living in the same house as us. With plans to find a slightly bigger place where we can spare a whole section of wall to a TV and movie setup (the regular TV behind the screen was a strike of genius that I wish I'd thought of myself), this is high on my list of things that must be included. Time will show.

[@SIMPLEXVERITAS]

Nice video! My home theater has a 120” screen and I still get an amazing picture with this projector. It is true that it has a loss of brightness compared with a TV. So? Up to 100" it is full hd. Beyond that it´s a transition between full hd and hd. My screen is hanging from the celling like your previous one. It is tensioned, so there is no problem with wrinkles.

[@lanswipe]

FYI the infrared isn't for sending video to it if i recall - but for control (see also SR232)

[@jaxnean2663]

that is some neat setup! do you remember CRT video projectors from the 90s?

[@kennethbouchard8643]

Yes, and they were pretty much useless unless viewed in total darkness and at a very narrow angle. Back in the 80s, they tried to adopt Sony Trinitron TVs to a silver coated or white screens, reversing the horizontal wires, to cause the image to be backward. Then when casting upon a screen, it would render a normal image. The larger you want the picture to be, the higher quality you need to make it look normal at very large sizes. If goign today I would want 4K just so that into the future your able to appreciate the higher quality images. But then you only live once, but why not get the biggest bang for the buck that you can.

[@Ryk254]

Great review - I have the LG PA75U LED projector and I have never been disappointed. LG are thee pioneers of producing quality and affordable LED Projectors and for that price I know it is awesome. Once my lamp life is down I will consider this model for sure. Keep it up.

[@produKtNZ]

I love your voice! In the first few seconds of you speaking, I realised just how like Ringo star sounded when narrating Thomas the Tank Engine!

[@cemx86]

Thanks for the video. Interesting the UST idea - never seen that before. I have a projection system (on the ceiling behind me) with a pull down screen (hidden by a soffit) and love it. No better way to watch movies. Down side is you really have to have a dark room. And routing the cables in my system was difficult!

[@MTDfan1]

Is that 15fps?

[@ChaseMC215]

Not on purpose

[@StuartTaylorEsquire]

Great projector +Techmoan i would be very tempted to ceiling mount it, and depending which way your joists are running, get a screen that disappears into the ceiling, but if you cant, just hide the closed screen behind a valance (some of that coving to match what you already have). That projector is so small, you wouldn't notice it, up there, 24" from the wall.

[@Techmoan]

+Stuart Taylor this setup was all about achieving one thing. Having a 95" screen which can be hidden away and not having anything permanently mounted in or attached on a ceiling or wall. If you are willing to mount things on to your walls then you can likely achieve similar or better results for much less money. However this has worked out well for me in my very specific situation. There are a lot of people who can't or won't mount things on the ceiling, and this video shows that those who find themselves in that situation do still have alternative options that they can investigate.

[@StuartTaylorEsquire]

+Techmoan yeah, i've just re watched, and you said, Mrs +Techmoan mustn't be irked. Nuff said. Plus you worry about dust getting in, i'd be worried about little inquisitive fingers, crayons, jam, and general "domestic bliss" getting in there ;)

[@FFVoyager]

+Stuart Taylor if it were upside down the dust would fall away from the lens!

[@kennethbouchard8643]

Just put a family framed portrait in front of it to hide it.

[@jenserikbech]

7 years later. Do you still use it?

[@JulesFox]

I've discovered this older video ... wonderful. Outstanding presentation as always.

[@Quickblood1]

Wow I had no idea projectors such as these existed, finally makes having one potentially practical in our small cramped British homes.

[@Techmoan]

+Quickblood1 Exactly. This might cost double the amount of a traditional 1080p projector, but it's a lot cheaper than moving house.

[@BaconKiller360]

Have you considered adding a weight to the bottom of your screen? Something that goes along the width of the screen to tension it out, keeping it taught while you're watching movies. Possibly a long black bar clipped at both ends. I realize this video is a couple years old, but I've watched quite a few of your videos and haven't seen a follow-up to this one.

[@youtubkeeper]

Wow, I didn't know short-throw projectors like that even existed! Very impressive. I noticed I was very susceptible to the rainbow effect on DLP projectors, to the point where they are pretty much unwatchable for me. You mention that LED lamp projectors don't have this issue, however I don't see how the lamp could make a difference?

[@catfleas4195]

i love the 3 projectors i own they are older units that still run and i use the wall as a screen but i do not have a short throw projectors the ones i have sir are mitsubishi xd206u 2 of those and one mitstubishi xd280u. my rooms are fair size rooms. Projectors are compact you can hide one almost anywhere

[@Robber7]

Welcome to the "projector club" Techmoan! I myself switched my old 40" to a BenQ w1070 and it has short throw too, but I have mine ceiling mounted. I don't have room for a larger screen than 100" but that is awesome :) 3D is great, the only downside for me is the noiselevel. It sounds too much for me when not looking at movies at high volume. But I don't think I will ever go back to a regular TV again.

[@Techmoan]

+Robber7 been using a projector for approx 15 years now. I still prefer to watch my TV on a TV and films on a projector though.

[@Robber7]

Techmoan Ahh, so I ment welcome back then! x) By the way, now when I got your attention, can you try to get your hands on the Eken H8 action camera? Supposedly it might be actual 4k and 30fps. Costs around 85$.

[@RobHealey]

Nicely done, I didn't know there was such short throw projectors.The image looks good, hard to tell without seeing it in person. Thanks Techmoan

[@cuddles6938]

Check with Screen Innovation's they were at a trade show and they have a screen made just for Short Throw Projector's. It's called a Zero Edge Short Throw (ST) Projector Screen.

[@Techmoan]

+TekReview's that's a fixed screen. I need an occasional screen because there's a TV on the wall.

[@filanfyretracker]

heh wow that projector is pretty sweet for what it does. I mean I am sure there are MUCH better ones out there but 1080p, UST for just over a grand. Something like this could even put a projector into rooms not normally ideal for one.

[@Fake_Blood]

If you're going to use it only for cinema (as would I) this should be 4K 21:9. But I didn't know this existed, and now I do and want one!

[@cuddles6938]

You would probably be able to install the USA Firmware. I did that with my LG BluRay/DVD-RW recorder on my PC, installed the European version firmware which allowed my drive to not only read BluRay's but also HD-DVD format movie discs.

[@Techmoan]

+TekReview's it's a bit of a risk on a device this expensive and there's nothing I need that the US firmware has.

[@ianforster6717]

I was considering one of these pull-up screens some time back, I'm in the same position with limited space for a projector

[@HOLYCRAP70]

I don't know why they make those plasma screens so cheap.... I bought one of the first plasma screens to ever come out, the date it was manufactured is on the back! February 2002 . It was astronomically expensive and heavily used, only goes to 720p and is 42 inches. But I have never replaced the plasma and its still going strong!!!! shows you how cheap they make electronics now, truly a shame.

[@kennethbouchard8643]

Plasma sets got less popular because they have so much weight, as well as a huge amount of electronics inside, compared to LED sets. Of course, we also had LCD and FL backlighting in between the eras of transistion. I do however now think LED technology has yielded high life and light weight. An example just bought new 50 inch 4K TV for $280.00 us. This was on the markdown shelf. Now what bothers me is the low-cost set has ONLY an optical output, so have to invest in a D/A converter box, just to interface it to the old school world.And the 50 inch tv is light enough that you can carry it around with just 1 hand draped top to bottom.

[@alexandertsantes4944]

Have you thought of ditching the pole and mounting a hook for the screen onto the wall above your plasma? Then you would not need to extend the pole from behind the cabinet; seems like that could be a bit cumbersome.

[@VeerMaharaj]

Screw a small hook into the wall above the tv to hook the screen onto so you wont need to keep putting the rear hanging bar up and down, and you wont have to worry about damage.

[@BillsCountrysideAdventures]

Blackout white roller blinds work well, we sold so many when I was in the business.

[@planetretro4581]

I got a cheap £200 Optoma projector and from about 12ft away I get 100" screen too, plus being Optoma it has the best image for watching movies rather than PC slideshows and finally it has a much more useable 3000 lumens (although the traditional lamp will only last about 7000 hours BUT ECO mode is pretty much identical to the full power mode of lamp) All in all total cost £200 and a tin of grey paint for the wall.. I have had low lumen projectors before and it really isn't worth the risk of complete blackout viewing tripping over cables and breaking your neck :)

[@karlvoskuhl3576]

Techmoan,Have you considered rear projecting that onto a piece of opaque acrylic or even a simple "frost" colored shower curtain? Wondering how much that might improve brightness.

[@darthniloc6099]

1080p at 95'' has an awful ppi, I just couldn't do it the picture wouldn't be sharp enough for me, amongst other picture problems that come with that size and resolution.

[@gorgon352]

Not really lol probably cause your comparing the concept to a HDTV, projectors aren’t even that sharp at 4K they just have super nice colour and contrast and better brightness the point of it is a mini movie theatre, movie theatres are at best 1080p and if your sitting at the back that’s probably more like 1050p

[@Zachary55]

Lol I actually reset my browser then my pc thinking there was no way a Techmoan video had flicker and it had to be my pc. Techmoan focuses so much on video quality I never would have guessed it was the video :P

[@92trdman]

Yes, 90-100 inches "perfection" you got to experience it..... to realized how cool when watching it from Laser disc era........

[@piratetv1]

the newer dlp maybe 2007 and above theyve tripled the color wheel speed to eliminate the rainbow effect. and with the led models itd even less visible.

[@cuddles6938]

You can get the paint to paint the wall for projectors, not sure how pricey it is though. Ebay sells the screen material and you make your own using wood, black fabric and staples.

[@Techmoan]

+TekReview's the main idea behind this video was to make a hideaway home cinema. I can't paint the wall because there's a TV on it that I'm watching. At the beginning of the video there is a section that a or if people have skipped past where I mention that I like to watch TV shows on a TV and films on a projector. I watch a TV during the day when there's light streaming through the window or lights on in the room and a projector on 'Movie Night' when I blackout the room and get the projector screen out. The room serves dual purposes, looking like a normal lounge for 99% of the time and then converting into a home cinema when it's required.

[@alicelei3784]

Oh you introduce a good choice to me! Though my Xgimi H1 works well in the daytime, I wanna make it more like private cinema and the hidden screen setting sounds good!

[@jublywubly]

That's awesome! I may seriously look into doing something similar. For a dust cover, you could make one out of a product called kydex. It's a hard plastic that can be shaped in a warm oven. People use it to make holsters for guns and radios, or for model making etc.

[@Techmoan]

+jublywubly thanks for the info, I'll look into it.

[@jublywubly]

You're welcome. :)

[@davefilms345]

that is a pretty little kool piece of kit. and yes ideal for limited space. but that waveyness in the screen did my head in as i bought a pull up screen and they were awful. still perfect fit none the less.

[@MattHill303]

I've just found this video after looking up the LG PF1000U, your setup is exactly what we've thought about doing with a screen in front of the TV, any updates on this or has it worked out fine?

[@Bammyja]

Stop reviewing every thing I can't afford! Makes me jealous :) Great review as ever.

[@volkerking7634]

Very Funny that the LG Projector have a AV-In or a RGB what for a Picturequality will came out if you insert a Signal like this!? One interesting thing is at 9:43 that this Projector have a bent (Fisheye) Picture. The Canvas is not in the lot and is not straight. Keystoning make the 1920x1080 blurry the reason is that the overall line interpolation are loos the Picture Quality on Pixel oriented Projector Panels.

[@rzeka]

I'm completely sold on this setup.

[@utube101x]

I always find your videos very interesting, and thank you for all the experimentation you do :) Lots of fun! I think for the money spent, just a bit more and we'd have a nice large screen television with far fewer things to adjust setting up and in use. It's a personal thing though. Although I might want to fiddle with things, I just don't have the time to.

[@Techmoan]

+utube101x The 79" TVs I was looking at were approx £5000 and then I wouldn't want to watch the evening news on a screen that big. I prefer my films on a much bigger screen than that.

[@startazz]

+Techmoan Matt,i hope you don't mind me asking this question mate,but how much did UK customs charge on this if anything that is,i only ask because everything over a couple of hundred quid i have to pay quite a bit VAT/TAX on products i buy from over seas,if you don't want to answer for personal reason i quite understand and i hope i haven't offended you by asking. :-)

[@Techmoan]

+startazz I paid approx £180 for the duties.