Are all new personal stereos doomed?

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@ykkfamily
@ykkfamily 3 жыл бұрын
"I suspect that I was going around carrying number of pictures of Korean ladies, Misses would be wondering what is going on" hahahahaha made me laugh. Thank you worth wile video already
@Markus0021
@Markus0021 3 жыл бұрын
@ykkfamily I was thinking that if he carried around only the pictures of young Korean boys, it might make her wonder even more...
@EDDBUD
@EDDBUD 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@newchannel1220
@newchannel1220 3 жыл бұрын
as an asian, i can honestly say , Kpop is the worst thing happened to humanity.
@WatanabeNoTsuna.
@WatanabeNoTsuna. 3 жыл бұрын
Not misses - the missus. His wife.
@0x1EGEN
@0x1EGEN 3 жыл бұрын
@@newchannel1220 Are you Korean?
@joeblankenship377
@joeblankenship377 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem like this "cassette comeback" is going to happen until somebody starts manufacturing decent cassette mechanisms.
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 3 жыл бұрын
There are still boatloads of cassette decks available on the 2nd hand market, most of which are easily fixed with a couple of new belts, a squirt of contact cleaner and a lick of grease. But it sure would be nice if there would be some semi-decent cassette mechanism on the market, because if cassettes become very popular, the cost of a refurbished deck will go through the roof.
@Blitterbug
@Blitterbug 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's odd. With the resurgence of vinyl, we pretty much (with some exceptions because of the pro DJ market) had godawful Crossleys at first, until decent decks made a bit of a comeback. Perhaps if we wait long enough...?
@nuznikas
@nuznikas 3 жыл бұрын
Casetes only for nostalgija
@CyrilViXP
@CyrilViXP 3 жыл бұрын
@@nuznikas I have no nostalgia for cassettes. It was awful format.
@EggBastion
@EggBastion 3 жыл бұрын
or tape
@f.herumusu8341
@f.herumusu8341 3 жыл бұрын
The design looks like Braun developed a walkman for Ikea ...
@wisteela
@wisteela 3 жыл бұрын
Now that would be nice.
@mustaphaleeq7016
@mustaphaleeq7016 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of Dieter Rams' classic Braun designs. But in this case it is more "Weniger, aber scheisse".
@rubeusvombatus
@rubeusvombatus 3 жыл бұрын
It does look quite nice but that's it, it would be interesting to see if someone can swap out the motor for a better one
@Applecompuser
@Applecompuser 3 жыл бұрын
What a piece of garbage. Tho, who is using cassettes.
@kpanic23
@kpanic23 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thankfully it comes preassembled and without a hex key...
@andrewlittleboy8532
@andrewlittleboy8532 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing we've become a world where something is destined for e-waste before it ever makes it to production!
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 3 жыл бұрын
😳 Indeed.
@robob3ar
@robob3ar 3 жыл бұрын
So damn true, I’ve bought manufactured trash a few times - straight to recycle bin - this is the absolute worst part of capitalism, makey money by producing recycle bin material - it’s like paying someone to spill a bucket of oil into the sea
@DTD110865
@DTD110865 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sad. I bought an adapter for my car from Wal-Mart several years ago that turned out to spend more time making whirring noises than charging any of my electronics.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 Ай бұрын
amen, the reason all these modern mechanisms 'suck' is not because china cannot make good ones; they just are always stuck selling 99.5% of them for a tenner on aliexpress. Plus people want 1980s prices without the inflation as a faction, and the 'retro limited edition' hawing companies providing these outside of china want windfall profits, because these are short run promo junk; something had to give.
@MuzikJunky
@MuzikJunky 3 жыл бұрын
The last and best Sony Walkman that I ever bought was from around 1989-1990, and it had a digital tuner. It never broke or wore out, and it STILL works! Peace.
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak 3 жыл бұрын
My Sony Walkman would've been mid 90's but I liked it. One of those "sports" models with the sturdy construction.
@randomperson7443
@randomperson7443 3 жыл бұрын
What model was it? I have a wm-f2085, but people still consider it cheap
@MuzikJunky
@MuzikJunky 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomperson7443, it was black, had auto reverse, a digital tuner, and was a bit on the large side. I don’t have access to it right now, or I’d check. Peace.
@THE-xp3hp
@THE-xp3hp Жыл бұрын
​@@ChristopherSobieniakSame here got a sony wm-sx34. It still runs perfectly 1994
@mazochungo
@mazochungo 3 жыл бұрын
"Sony knew what they were doing." So do you, sir. Thanks for yet another comprehensive review, and for your advice and experience. You help us appreciate old equipment even more.
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 3 жыл бұрын
I like the TechMoan 🌈
@fffwe3876
@fffwe3876 3 жыл бұрын
in short, these cassette players are as horrible as K-pop itself.....
@artsimannisto5659
@artsimannisto5659 3 жыл бұрын
@@fffwe3876 yepp,wobbling harlots jumping around waving them skinny asses. end is near...huh
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 3 жыл бұрын
There’s probably like 1 factory left in China that makes all of the cassette mechanisms.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 3 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps several factories, but all working from the same limited number of blueprints. That would explain why there are multiple variations of essentially the same design.
@janpiet9716
@janpiet9716 3 жыл бұрын
Yes probably some anonymus Won Hung Lo factory next to the bloody Shenzhen market...
@laharl2k
@laharl2k 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they cant just clone sonys mechanism...chine clones everything, and if i were china i would have started from there instead of making my own model.
@FerreroMan
@FerreroMan 3 жыл бұрын
pretty cool they still exist, they made cassettes into the late 2000s pretty sure
@grateshirtironer2972
@grateshirtironer2972 3 жыл бұрын
@@laharl2k most pre-recorded cassettes are actually made in USA, if you can believe it. There's like one company who bought all the machinery needed.
@computer_toucher
@computer_toucher 3 жыл бұрын
That era of Sony was all engineering marvels of miniaturisation, especially those Walkmen. Brilliant industrial design, the curves, etc
@adultmoshifan87
@adultmoshifan87 3 жыл бұрын
2 years ago, I bought a new Sony Blu Ray player, but it skips the occasional random frame no matter what disc I play on it! I watched Trolls and The Secret Life of Pets on it, but I could tell when the odd word sounded incomplete! How could this happen? This is SONY! A company whose tech is usually really good!
@RJDA.Dakota
@RJDA.Dakota 3 жыл бұрын
@@adultmoshifan87 can be a lens problem or maybe pay special attention to the way that you clean your DVDs and BDs Don’t really know, just trouble shooting.
@TonyW79SFV
@TonyW79SFV 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that today's manufacturer's that excels at miniaturization of digital electronics yet have a hard time replicating analog technology from over two decades ago demonstrates the complexity of the technology (both mechanical & electronics) of the Sony Walkman. You can't get Samsung, who makes the best digital electronics today, to try to build a portable stereo cassette player that could rival Sony Walkmans of the 80s & 90s (and early 2000s). Sony's forte was definitely in analog electronics.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 3 жыл бұрын
@@adultmoshifan87 RIP Sony
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
SOny still makes decent headphones, earbuds, and bluetooth speakers, and for a lot cheaper than ripoffs like Beats and Bose and so on, but their best headphones are actually 80s designs that are still in production.
@Sylvivi
@Sylvivi 3 жыл бұрын
If only Sony started re-releasing a Walkman with actual cassette compatibility..
@theone3776
@theone3776 3 жыл бұрын
They wont. Cuz its unprofitable.
@hugodrax1674
@hugodrax1674 3 жыл бұрын
@@theone3776 Not really, if they made it in China the manufacturing costs would be dirt cheap. Or they could license their old designs on the cheap if they never intend to make them again.
@hugodrax1674
@hugodrax1674 3 жыл бұрын
@Bee Eff The manufacturing costs are cheap, the profits of the muiltinationals large
@wahaha918
@wahaha918 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugodrax1674 nobody will set company in China recently no more
@MikeStavola
@MikeStavola 3 жыл бұрын
@@theone3776 you're right. Sony wouldn't be able to use the mechs in these kinds of devices, because they aren't made in the volume a multinational corporation would need. They'd have to make their own mech, and their own chassis, and their own board. It would no doubt cost a few million USD to get production started. It would likely cost about... $20-30 to manufacture. Then, the cost would probably need to be around $40-100 US, and only a few thousand weirdos would really want to buy one. I doubt they'd be able to move more than 50k worldwide in a year. It'd be a major loss for Sony. And I'd be one of those weirdos. I'm installing a 1993ish JVC Digifine tape deck and CD changer into my old convertible next week.
@HunterKiotori
@HunterKiotori 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not into K-pop, but I like how you went the extra mile to explain the significance of the special edition tape. I thinks it's cool having something that is a kinda flashback nostalgia.
@deanphillips8408
@deanphillips8408 3 жыл бұрын
How is it the I haven’t owned a tape or vinyl for 20 years and haven’t played a cd for 10 years yet I watch at least 3 Techmoan videos a day? Love it, keep up the good work
@sperran
@sperran 3 жыл бұрын
Completely the same for me.... I'm 33 and to be honest I've never bought any vinyl, MC or CD player during my adulthood... Still love the channel :D
@exulan9570
@exulan9570 3 жыл бұрын
I've never owned one in my life lol
@Jako1987
@Jako1987 3 жыл бұрын
You will soon break and you buy a casette or vinyl machine 😀 You have been warned!
@duffman18
@duffman18 3 жыл бұрын
Cos this isn't really a review channel. I mean he does reviews of both modern and vintage tech, but the vast majority of people aren't watching the videos for that. We're watching them because they're fascinating, he writes scripts in a way that convey loads of information yet are very easy to understand for a layperson, and he's a good speaker, and be throws in enough humour too. It's like how there's plenty of channels I watch that review movies, or video games, but I'm not watching them because I want to know which movies to watch and which games to play, most of the time I already have seen/played the thing being reviewed. The point is that they're entertaining to watch. And some of them go so deeply into the fundamentals of movie/video game development that it's almost like film/game school or something. Like how Folding Ideas reviews mainly movies, but he's a guy with undergrad and postgrad degrees in film theory and has worked in the film industry for years. So he thoroughly explains why certain techniques are used and why they're effective at getting across a feeling or a plot point without the characters needing to even say a single line. He's not just like most film review channels that go "I like this movie cos this happened in the story" or "I hate this movie because this happened in the story" etc. He actually goes deeply into the film theory of framing and cinematography and editing and screenwriting etc. Like this video on the Kuleshov Effect that he made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqVh5ukptmobqs Techmoan is the same kind of thing. People don't watch his videos because they want to know which record player or Walkman is the best. They watch them because he's more of a tech historian, who really goes into more depth about these things than nearly any other channel. And he takes them apart and shows the insides and explains how every little piece works. I've never bought anything after watching any of his videos. But I've watched all the videos multiple times because they're just so fascinating There's a handful of other tech channels that are as good as Techmoan like Technology Connections. But the vast majority of them don't even come close to how good Techmoan videos are. He really has a knack for making just about anything fascinating
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 3 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@greendryerlint
@greendryerlint 3 жыл бұрын
You've motivated me to dig out my old Sanyo personal stereo and see how it does. It was nothing too special, but did always sound good. One innovative feature was it came with a "tuner pack", which was a cassette-shaped tuner module that you could drop in and listen to AM/FM stereo. It had contact pins for power and it didn't use the tape head for the audio signal, and the case of the player had cutouts for the thumb wheel for tuning and switches.
@iamnobody2
@iamnobody2 3 жыл бұрын
that sounds cute as hell!
@beatnix99
@beatnix99 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same Sanyo model with the blue tuner pack that I bought when I was a kid with the money I saved from delivering newspapers (couldn’t afford a SONY) lol…
@AdamKlein77
@AdamKlein77 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why not use the tape head? It's right there, after all.
@jelle8055
@jelle8055 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamnobody2 not vary cute then, at least from my understanding hell isn't vary cute...
@taunusv4power
@taunusv4power 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Toshiba also had that accessory so as a couple sonys. I like the sanyo because those look like tanks and it still has the old sanyo logo
@farmhouse78
@farmhouse78 3 жыл бұрын
That thing gave me heartburn. Sony really did make one hell of a product, didn't they?
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 3 жыл бұрын
I was never impressed by Walkmen, but in comparison, it's a Corvette vs a Geo.
@MrEscanaba
@MrEscanaba 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenmore01 Ouch. I thought a Yuno car would be on the lists. At least the Geo have AC. Sorta sorta like a reverse turbocharging charging a AC, not horsepower. As for me. YAMAHA NS A636 was gold find to get a studio bookshelves speaker. Three way!! It like Godzilla walk into Scorpion concert Live on 97.5 KLT The Rock Station. I love my local station.
@DarrellS54
@DarrellS54 3 жыл бұрын
So pretty much modern cassette mechanisms are the Crosley of the tape world.
@Locutus
@Locutus 3 жыл бұрын
The what?
@kamulecPL12
@kamulecPL12 3 жыл бұрын
@@Locutus Crosley cruiser. Basically, it's a turntable that fits into a briefcase-like shell, with speakers built in. It's really infamous within the "vinyl entuhusiast" community, due to it's laughable sound quality, terrible stylus and overal "bargain bin" feel of the whole unit. It's reputation isn't helped by the fact that factories in china have copied the deign and are pumping out even cheaper and worse copies of the original en masse.
@Locutus
@Locutus 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamulecPL12 Thank you.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
The sad thing about that is that Crosley used to be a respectable name once many years ago, but now it's just a licensed trademark used by Chinese crap factories. Same with old brands like RCA and such.
@josugambee3701
@josugambee3701 3 жыл бұрын
Audio-Technica and others still produce pretty decent turntables I believe.
@nickinportland
@nickinportland 3 жыл бұрын
Techmoan having to describe KPOP history made my day.
@peshozmiata
@peshozmiata 3 жыл бұрын
"If the motor's on display, better run away" is a good way to remember it
@georgewhite1972
@georgewhite1972 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the slogan for a 1970's UK TV public safety advert warning of a paedo sitting in a car outside a school
@bonemar66
@bonemar66 3 жыл бұрын
One might think a cheap motor so close to where the magnetic tape is supposed to loop onto would partially erase a tape, or introduce hum in the recordings that won't go away?
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 3 жыл бұрын
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had a Toshiba with the motor like that ... Man, the best walkman I ever had.
@LSD97123
@LSD97123 3 жыл бұрын
@Lookup what?
@LSD97123
@LSD97123 3 жыл бұрын
@Lookup I understood what you said, just can't believe it
@Nytalite
@Nytalite Жыл бұрын
I have my mom’s old Walkman, a WM-FX425 from approximately 1988. While its original belt had failed and had to be replaced, it works incredibly well. Additionally, I bought one of those cassette-to-MP3 machines before I knew it was just the belt in the Walkman, and it was defective. It would just play regardless of what you did with the buttons.
@fluffyjello
@fluffyjello 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing an old British man open up K-Pop merchandise is quite a fun thing. And tbh the market they're aiming here which is the K-Pop teens who like the groups that are included in the mix. Most of them will probably not care about quality or even listen to it too much. Most would buy these for the novelty and merchandise factor, like owning the product and supporting their favourite groups. So yeah, the people behind these items know who they're targeting at.
@lillyclarity9699
@lillyclarity9699 Жыл бұрын
"old" jesus christ, mate, you didn't have to murder the poor guy. he's middle-aged at most
@gmansplit
@gmansplit Жыл бұрын
Who you callin' old!?
@medes5597
@medes5597 11 ай бұрын
I'm late here, but my sister had this set imported as she's a big kpop fan, and she was really into the blossom era revival they did. The magazine that comes with the Kassette, states that it's for fancy dress use, to dress as a blossom era kpop fan. Even the magazine says its just to look good. They don't expect anyone to listen to it
@Reticence9zen924
@Reticence9zen924 4 ай бұрын
There are some Western pop artists with casettes, the Barbie movie had several casettes of albums and singles of the soundtrack plus one artist Dua Lipa seems to have casette releases of her albums too. There are different coloured editions of albums to create the collectable factor too.
@jockeyjeon9532
@jockeyjeon9532 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I'm terribly sorry it ended up like this. This wasn't cheap ($104.58) and I naturally thought they must have put a lot of money to the R&D. I can see now it all went to the artists' royalty. How did they got the RWD and FF in the wrong way? Unbelievable. Just so you know, I was the guy who sent this to Mat.
@NebachadnezzaR
@NebachadnezzaR Жыл бұрын
It's good to know about the quality of modern players, especially if they suck. Thanks for sending it to Mat.
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a well done expose on what basically amounts to fraud. In the pre-globalization markets run the world era this type of crap would have been put out of business
@JC20XX
@JC20XX Жыл бұрын
Still made for an entertaining video at least!
@LameServers
@LameServers 7 ай бұрын
The RWD and FF is actually turning in the right way. The DIR is on side B. (If you Don't know what the DIR is, It is the one that switches to side a to side b with a button
@TonyVRailfanning
@TonyVRailfanning 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that the impressive box didn’t have a impressive cassette player in it. The young generation will never really appreciate what a good quality portable player was like even if they get their hands on one it likely won’t be in good shape.
@darkdoescosplays
@darkdoescosplays 3 жыл бұрын
It's the shame about the quality, as I really love the design. It kind of reminds me of 70s design but miniaturised
@chrispritchard4676
@chrispritchard4676 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I still listen to Classic FM with a 90s Sony Walkman with headphones through the night. The sound quality is streets ahead of the DAB radios around the house, and is amazing that it all runs off a single aa battery. The cassette still player still works, which is a testament to Sony’s quality. A shame this one tested does not come up to scratch. Thanks, once again Mr T.
@robertschemonia5617
@robertschemonia5617 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! My insomnia is good for something! It is 4:09 AM in the Central Time Zone, and I am wide awake, and ready for an awesome video. As usual, Techmoan does not disappoint.
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 3 жыл бұрын
Every Saturday morning at the same time he drops a new video. It works out for me that when I'm about to leave work after Friday night there's a new techmoan video to watch.
@robertschemonia5617
@robertschemonia5617 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaredConnell yeah, I work 8 to 5, normally 6 days a week, but labor day weekend and such, so at least I don't have to be at work in a couple hours.
@flipperthepenguin3885
@flipperthepenguin3885 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the branding of the "It's OK". At least it doesn't pretend to be better than fair to middling.
@stephenpointon
@stephenpointon 3 жыл бұрын
Matt please keep up the good work and be critical where it matters, honesty is the best policy!
@motodevcam
@motodevcam 3 жыл бұрын
Despite its quality, it just brought back all those feelings as a kid getting a new walkman through the years as things update. My first auto rewind walkman and then the trolly nice Aiwa silver one that was not much bigger than the tape! I felt so smart on the bus! Great stuff!
@greendryerlint
@greendryerlint 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend in HS had an Aiwa that made me envy him. It was the only personal cassette deck I ever saw that recorded and came with a stereo mike the plugged in.
@motodevcam
@motodevcam 3 жыл бұрын
@@andymerrett My mum used to do that, when copying off tapes. She's sitting In silence for fear of recording herself over Cliff Richard! 😅
@CheezeCracker
@CheezeCracker 3 жыл бұрын
@@greendryerlint I still have mine, somewhere. But there was a higher end version that we never got here in the US. And same as you, I was in envy of a friend who got one overseas. Besides the stereo mics, digital tuner, BBE, super bass, all the bell and whistles, mostly, I remember it had such an amazing quality of FM tuner. Looked similar to HS-J880, but I swear it had stereo mics built in, which the 880 doesn't?
@stephenmumford9629
@stephenmumford9629 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter caught me watching the video and recognised the people on the poster straight away.
@annother3350
@annother3350 3 жыл бұрын
Did she ask why you were watching videos of young korean girls?!
@stephenmumford9629
@stephenmumford9629 3 жыл бұрын
@@annother3350 no. But she had no idea what a cassette was.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmumford9629 I actually bought a couple of cassettes this week in a Charity Shop. The young man on the till, probably doing work experience, had to ask the manager what they were and which category they should be put under.
@weeraanmelden
@weeraanmelden 3 жыл бұрын
9:56 just love to see the TDK SA 90's . Brings back so much memories .
@hlloyge
@hlloyge 3 жыл бұрын
...and that's the new one. I really liked the design from the 80's - when they came in that black/white wrapping.
@panadolf2691
@panadolf2691 3 жыл бұрын
I bought it in early 2000s in kiosk and record some music from radio stations. It's still sounds great after years.
@dtox2331
@dtox2331 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a cupboard full of them unwrapped.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 honestly that's a really neat idea conceptually, modern artists to cover versions of old songs all the time but it's neat to see it made into a bigger project like this that also has some historical significance considering K-pop is huge these days.
@MasterGeekMX
@MasterGeekMX 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Mexico they did the same with the "90's pop tour": kzbin.info/www/bejne/poXRe6OYqr14frs
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
They should do it more in general. And obviously release the covers onto the media formats that were common when the original versions came out. Sure, also do all the fancy digital formats, but there is something special about period correct hardware and formats.
@artsimannisto5659
@artsimannisto5659 3 жыл бұрын
ugluteen harlots jumping around crazybiachh.can no sing.
@emilinaverse
@emilinaverse 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I became a fan of your videos after trying to get an understanding of sound systems. I currently have a Sony receiver connected to my tv, PlayStation, and a record player. I’ve never had one, but I’ve learned my fair share of information on this channel. But what also helped was your previous cassette player videos. Funnily, what ties this video and my journey with you is kpop! I needed a cassette player to listen to a new album that came out on a cassette. The sound system, to enjoy my music (kpop). I feel like we’ve came full circle. By the way, I would love go take the kpop merchandise off your hands 💗 thank you!
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t beat a mid to late 90’s Sony Walkman for personal cassette players. I still remember how good Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins sounded!
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, your hearing was probably better back then as well.
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredbloggs5902 My ears are worn but the difference heard here was night and day at its most stark.
@AfferbeckBeats
@AfferbeckBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that the cheapest department store knockoffs that I had back then would be 10x better than the remaining junk you can get today!
@Grace_Robbins
@Grace_Robbins 3 жыл бұрын
Those bands were my existence in 1996.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 3 жыл бұрын
I think Sony Walkmans from the 1980's were even better. Built to last a long time. Fewer plastic parts than the 90's Walkman players, which made them relatively heavy.
@theozank853
@theozank853 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the look at 5:34 with the cassette inside, even though the player is rubbish.
@chriskalkman3815
@chriskalkman3815 3 жыл бұрын
The fact they were able to compress a tape player to the size of a case is a technological feat in my book.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Walkman was the pinnacle of technology in the early 80s. I couldn't afford a genuine Sony myself so I had an Aiwa. Which I thought was pretty decent.
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 3 жыл бұрын
look up the sony wm-10. when it doesnt have a cassette in it it’s actually smaller than a cassette!
@c128stuff
@c128stuff 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred imo Aiwa did end up making the absolute pinacle of personal stereo systems with devices like the hs-jx505 and variations.. but that was in the early 1990s, just before they completely stopped making anything worth having. Your early 1980s AIWAs were probably relatives of the 'real' Sony walkmans which would appear a year later.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@c128stuff I think the Sony Walkman was the first Walkman. After it came out it was so wildly popular everyone made a copy of it.
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 3 жыл бұрын
Components specifically designed and manufactured for each model for maximum compactness rather than generic off-the-shelf components was the key.
@rustyaxelrod
@rustyaxelrod 3 жыл бұрын
I recently repaired my TEAC V-900X cassette machine and have stored several hundred tapes away in sealed boxes. I have also bought a Pioneer QX8000A 4channel receiver/amplifier. All I’m lacking is some decent speakers and I’ll be back in 1989. I understand the nostalgia for the cassettes, I’m excited to hear those tapes again! Some of them are recorded in dbx discrete, I remember those as sounding particularly good.
@kevinnichols4105
@kevinnichols4105 3 жыл бұрын
I love the thumbnail. "It's crap but that's normal" I had a good laugh. It's also very true! Thanks for all of your great videos.
@OofusTwillip
@OofusTwillip 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my Sony Professional Recorder Walkman, from about 1993. I haven't used it in years, but it's rock-solid. For digitizing my old cassettes, I gave up on USB walkmen, and got a used 1990s JVC stereo cassette deck for $25. Works beautifully.
@JennDouglas
@JennDouglas 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would see a kpop unboxing on this channel lol.
@szrelemr7784
@szrelemr7784 3 жыл бұрын
Pleasant surprise, I didn't even know this product/project existed before this video.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 3 жыл бұрын
He's more a hip-hop man.
@kernelpaniiic
@kernelpaniiic 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, regarding the “We are rewind” Walkman, they claim in their recent newsletter that it will be based on the Tanashin mechanism that they are trying to optimize for better sound quality. However the mechanical parts they want for a good record functionality are not manufactured anymore so they will ditch the record functionality in the first version of their device (which is yet to come). So it looks they’re just not trying to fit one of these crap mechanism into a new case.
@Baronello
@Baronello 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Sony HQ, "Oh no we are missing on 20k euro supercontract to Tanashin q_q" Dunno what “We are rewind” team were thinking launching KS campaign without checking available tech.
@ChristopherHallett
@ChristopherHallett 3 жыл бұрын
But he Tanashin mech is just as much of a heap of shit as the mechs discussed in this video?
@Baronello
@Baronello 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherHallett Yep, they have a long history of producing cheap and bad audio stuff.
@kernelpaniiic
@kernelpaniiic 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherHallett there are different versions of the tanashin clones (since tanashin does not make them anymore since a decade). For instance the mech in the
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 3 жыл бұрын
Another manufacturer that cannot manufacture. You don't go looking for mechanical parts, your MANUFACTURER them. In other words, avoid this 'we are rewind' crowd, they are clueless.
@waltondorrison
@waltondorrison 3 жыл бұрын
I had this same discussion with my mom today, only it was about a new mystery-brand pressure cooker she ordered to replace the mystery-brand one that broke (it only lasted about two years). Different "brand," but the exact same components. Buttons were in the same place, albeit a different overlay. Even the old lid connects. And I'm sure in another two years, she'll replace it with another mystery-brand variant...
@yoymate6316
@yoymate6316 3 жыл бұрын
mat’s reaction to kpop is the best thing i’ll see this week
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda cool, with the huge wow and flutter you virtually have two different cassettes between the two devices. Double the music with just one cassette!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 жыл бұрын
Experimental Microtonal Edition!
@ZeeKat
@ZeeKat 3 жыл бұрын
Instant boardsofcanadizer!
@bluebalute
@bluebalute 3 жыл бұрын
That's the attitude!!! Glass half full.
@e_dharmalog
@e_dharmalog 3 жыл бұрын
I watch this channel to know what equipment NOT to buy. I appreciate what you do.
@TheMrTomkennedy
@TheMrTomkennedy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, Matt. I always respect your opinion on this type of thing. Surely the resurgence of CC's will lead toward someone making a decent mechanism at some point. My guess is it would sell like hotcakes!
@dansaikyo6664
@dansaikyo6664 3 жыл бұрын
Side note: I love that blank tape with the metal reel-to-reel looking wheels on the inside. Where did you get that?
@thejacal2704
@thejacal2704 3 жыл бұрын
He did a video on it.
@fluxoff
@fluxoff 3 жыл бұрын
Maxwell put those out as a stunt to promote some metal tape formulation. Extra $$$, of course.
@rowgli
@rowgli 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, I came here to say that too!
@theGoogol
@theGoogol 3 жыл бұрын
My 2001 Honda HR-V came with a Sony Cassette player. Instead of replacing it, I bought a 90's Cassette recorder and a few cassettes (choice partly because of this channel). The joy of making mix-tapes, selecting the songs you don't want to skip (skipping takes forever), the fidelity ... It makes the 90's driving experience all that much more.
@I967
@I967 3 жыл бұрын
The design is not bad, it looks like a cassette player that the Japanese company Muji would sell. Shame about the mechanism, though. Really it goes to show - if you want a walkman, buy a Walkman. Or an Aiwa. Or Sanyo.
@NANCYDREWCHANNEL
@NANCYDREWCHANNEL 3 жыл бұрын
Or Panasonic. My elder brother used to own one, but I was the one whom always listening to it most of the time. The sounds were amazing, and I was really impressed!
@I967
@I967 3 жыл бұрын
@@NANCYDREWCHANNEL Yes, I forgot Panasonic - they were also popular and they made a lot of models. There were also some companies which tried to get into the walkman business, but they didn't make many models, like Grundig, Hitachi or Toshiba.
@Highrollinhunter
@Highrollinhunter 3 жыл бұрын
My Aiwa cassette tape player is awesome.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, players from the mid-80s up to the late-90s from japanese manufacturers just have that quality. And some early 00s also did fine, but that was already when the medium was starting to be phased out and quality was less important. Pretty much the same timeframe as with floppies. The old ones are often better than the newer ones.
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak 3 жыл бұрын
Reminded my mom loved her Aiwa stereo she had with Dolby Surround speakers.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee 3 жыл бұрын
"One that wasn't actually properly broken." hee. Also dang, that Walkman the size of a cassette case, WTF, Sony?
@dougle03
@dougle03 3 жыл бұрын
Sony made some nice stuff before they went all cheapo.... I presume they also nearly went bust making the nice stuff too... Progress is not always a good thing.
@John_Ridley
@John_Ridley 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sony Walkman that was SMALLER than a cassette case. It collapsed down when it had no tape in it (FM radio still worked) and open to accept a tape. It ran for hours on a single AA cell.
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 3 жыл бұрын
@@John_Ridley a wm-10? my dad has one (and it’ll be mine at some point i guess) and it does that
@peacearchwa5103
@peacearchwa5103 3 жыл бұрын
@@John_Ridley Yeah, I had a Walkman WM-10 which is the model you are describing. It's still somewhere in a storage box somewhere in the house. It ran on a single battery for many hours, though if you used the Dolby NR the battery life was shorter.
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougle03 It's pathetic that so many large companies make such garbage products these days and charge you a mint for them.
@aptom203
@aptom203 3 жыл бұрын
It's a real shame the quality isn't great because I really like the design of this one, boxy with the clear plastic cover. Something about it appeals to me.
@pkuras
@pkuras 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to wow and flutter problems, the new machine also runs fast, about a quarter tone sharp.
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 3 жыл бұрын
It's worse. The motor is very sensitive to voltage as the flywheel is basically non-existent due to price cutting it to virtually weightless plastic. What it tells me is, if a cassette deck has adequate voltage regulation, it would have more consistent speed, but yeah, it looks like this pos couldn't even do that correctly.
@38911bytefree
@38911bytefree 3 жыл бұрын
LOL .... just wait until the belts get break in .... chipmonks
@ethanoreilly2002
@ethanoreilly2002 2 жыл бұрын
The downgrade in quality of consumer electronics especially more affordable ones is really shocking!!
@couldntmixapotnoodle
@couldntmixapotnoodle 3 жыл бұрын
I recognize that mechanism as the ones you can buy on eBay for about 15 quid that look and feel like somebody has slapped them together with cheaply moulded plastic
@wisteela
@wisteela 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's confirmed that I won't be buying a modern one any time soon.
@deadairconversion
@deadairconversion 3 жыл бұрын
That Sony Walkman still sounds like a gem, almost as good as the day you bought it probably. The Sony I had took enormous abuse but always sounded great. They always strived to get it ‘right’ for sure
@markbajek2541
@markbajek2541 3 жыл бұрын
I remember having an Aiwa personal cassette player /recorder/ AM/FM stereo tuner , metal case unit , pricey around $300.00 back in the 80's. Probably a little smaller than the Ksette unit on review ,but it was a workhorse. Auto reverse, you could record lectures or directly off the tuner.
@artsimannisto5659
@artsimannisto5659 3 жыл бұрын
i got 1985 Aiwa ad-f 770 highend deck. Also Aiwa walkmans were premium guality back inaday. Looks cooler than sony ones. Before when sony bought aiwa away.
@NEOGEOJunkie
@NEOGEOJunkie 3 жыл бұрын
I have new levels of respect for my yamaha kx580! Thanks for a great vid 👍
@disgruntledfaerie
@disgruntledfaerie 3 жыл бұрын
That blue cassette player was honest about itself, at least. "IT'S OK"
@d2factotum
@d2factotum 3 жыл бұрын
If it's the same quality as the device tested I thinking calling itself OK is still overselling it...'
@chillstar
@chillstar 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if the O stands for obviously and the K's for krap.
@Thematt11
@Thematt11 3 жыл бұрын
13:22 that player probably has the most honest brand name of any of these junk piles. Shame about the main focus of the video though because I really like that aesthetic.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, with that mechanism, the name will probably still be a lie! 😂
@Preske
@Preske 3 жыл бұрын
I wished someone would start to make the old, good mechanisms again. Like they did with vinyl plates. There has to be a market for it.
@timseguine2
@timseguine2 3 жыл бұрын
Cassettes always had a kind of "bad" reputation for quality even when they were popular. I imagine the market for them is mostly nostalgia. As such I am not so optimistic that there is a market beyond these cheap devices. High Quality Blank cassettes are only available as new old stock as far as I know. I'd like to be proven wrong. Maybe an enthusiast will reverse engineer an old design and find a way to manufacture it well enough on DIY equipment. That is the only real avenue I see.
@paveloleynikov4715
@paveloleynikov4715 3 жыл бұрын
@@timseguine2 sadly, reverse engineering old mechanism probably wouldn't cut it. It was designed as simple mess of plastic gears and stamped aluminium, cheap in mass production, but pain in the butt with replicating with reasonable price in small series. But i bet that you could slap some nice but chunky direct drive mech using off the shelf electronics and cnc cut parts for a reasonable price...
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 3 жыл бұрын
@@paveloleynikov4715 Yeah, modern brushless/stepper motors and controls _should_ make brute-forcing a consistent and steady tape speed a pretty simple affair.
@joshuarosen6242
@joshuarosen6242 3 жыл бұрын
If there really were a market for them, they would exist. Cassette tapes were always bloody awful, even by the standards of the time.
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that a turntable is fundamentally a simpler piece of kit, so new affordably-priced ones could be created from nothing once demand for them picked up again. It's "just" a steadily rotating platter and a tonearm with smoothly operating bearing. Walkmans aren't like that. A good one relies on a large number of precision mechanisms that are expensive to engineer and assemble. If you do it badly you end up with a tape destroyer instead.
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 3 жыл бұрын
Sony used "printed circuit" motors in their walkmans that were only a few mm thick!
@robertgaines-tulsa
@robertgaines-tulsa 3 жыл бұрын
The cassette deck is performing perfectly. What you are hearing is the tremolo effect popular in cassette and turntable players these days. It gives your old, dull music that new, hipster sound.
@sr212787
@sr212787 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! The 22-year-old, sat in a drawer for a year, cassette player, works so much better than a brand-new one.
@watershed44
@watershed44 3 жыл бұрын
@SR212787 *I learned some decades ago that not only isn't "newer" always better, newer today usually means worse performance and lower quality* lol
@panadolf2691
@panadolf2691 3 жыл бұрын
It depends from many factors. There was budget products back in the day that sounded like this korean player. And if we talk about old devices it depends how worn is mechanism.
@watershed44
@watershed44 3 жыл бұрын
@@panadolf2691 Except you had mid line options back then that had very good quality and very reasonable prices, today it is all poor quality with cheap and cheaper prices, that is China for you.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@watershed44 And nowadays the only mechanisms produced are the cheap ones. So every new player will sound bad compared to even affordable ones from 20 years ago
@Grace_Robbins
@Grace_Robbins 3 жыл бұрын
The Techmoan Army: 1. Should 'get together and make a proper, good cassette mech' (per CBits Tech), and 2. After we succeed in that monumental task, we must gather together and build Mat a large studio with ample storage space.
@hoshimaruhajime7933
@hoshimaruhajime7933 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Crossley cassette players they are better thin this on screen
@meeder78
@meeder78 3 жыл бұрын
@@hoshimaruhajime7933 what mech do they use? 99% use the exact same cheap Chinese mech.
@hoshimaruhajime7933
@hoshimaruhajime7933 3 жыл бұрын
@@meeder78 I have one of these and it has great speaker quality auto stop and 4 bands of radio
@hoshimaruhajime7933
@hoshimaruhajime7933 3 жыл бұрын
@@meeder78 and it's made in the USA I think
@kght222
@kght222 3 жыл бұрын
i bet he wouldn't want one. been watching for a few years and i think he might be the type of person who would happily turn down free money.
@tinkersmith
@tinkersmith 3 жыл бұрын
"Hopefully it's all right" - I thought we hoped it was Stereo? 😂
@shi5369
@shi5369 3 жыл бұрын
I see what ya did there
@Slane583
@Slane583 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my original SONY WalkMan from my childhood that my father bought for me. It was by no means a high-end model but it's still far superior than what can be bought today. I didn't have very many cassettes as a kid, but it does have an FM-Tuner built into it so I was able to listen to the radio anywhere I wanted to bring it. As long as there was good reception that is. I also still have both of my portable Philips cd players as well and still use them when I feel like listening to a cd from time to time. :)
@georgecunningham9175
@georgecunningham9175 3 жыл бұрын
I have always been impressed with the relatively low numbers of Dislikes on your videos. On the few occasions I have bothered to search out and read the negative comments, I have also been impressed with the vehemence some have expressed what appear to be a dislike of you disliking a product! If I wanted to nit-pick any video I certainly wouldn't dislike the fact that someone reviewing a product didn't like it - after all, isn't that the point of a review? Its like spewing hate on a banana split because it doesn't contain toast and its cold. In any case, thank you for doing what you do, and for doing it the way you do!
@jjcoolaus
@jjcoolaus 3 жыл бұрын
I'm listening through the built in speaker in my phone and even I can hear the massive difference in sound quality between the two machines. Wow
@8bitwiz_
@8bitwiz_ 3 жыл бұрын
And flutter.
@DJRickDawson
@DJRickDawson 3 жыл бұрын
same here.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
One does ponder, if building a mech oneself might be possible. Stepper motors for accuracy, direct drive, arduino for control, 3D-printed chassis and such.
@johnstone7697
@johnstone7697 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. It ain't as easy as it looks.
@Tadesan
@Tadesan 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your saying that. Nothing you said is productive. Not one thing. You must own a 3D printer.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tadesan Well good productive day to you too.🤔
@inshadowz
@inshadowz 3 жыл бұрын
So the fact that I listened to this on a crappy mono only work phone computer headset didn't really take anything away from the experience? That's almost sad :D
@maplecinna3979
@maplecinna3979 3 жыл бұрын
I've said this before and I'll say it again. For most people, the cassette comeback is a novelty. They get nostalgia from listening to a tape and aren't looking for super high quality audio, if they wanted high quality audio they would buy expensive headphones and listen to high quality audio files. However most people don't care about high quality audio anyways because they just stream Spotify or KZbin to their $5 pair of earbuds or $40 bluetooth speaker. All that being said, these mechanisms don't cut it. I don't mind the tape hiss, I grew up with that in the cheap old player I had as a kid, but the speed is so wrong. I bought one of those boomboxes with the tanoshin mech and was fine with that, yes it had hiss and wow and flutter, but the speed was okay. Eventually though it stopped being consistent with the speed, trying to record tapes with that machine was a nightmare, because the speed fluctuated while recording and during playback. This caused drastic changes in tape speed, and was not pleasant to listen to (unless you are a music masochist like me). Last little comment is about the "new" tapes, they are all bad. I have a new tape from an indi band I like, but I could make a better sounding tape by recording the digital .WAV files onto tape with dolby on my RCA SCT-570. Listening to old tapes on new machines isn't that bad, listening to new tapes on old machines isn't that bad, but listening to new tapes on new machines is less than ideal.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a computer keyboard I bought back when the only type you could buy from most places was the standard, huge 104/105 key type, and only in the standard color, beige. The only choice you got was whether the key action felt adequate poor or abominable, largely depending on price. I bought a black 86-key keyboard called a Shortboard from a specialist supplier. I needed it because I was typing all day every day, and a standard keyboard puts the mouse so far to the right, it was painful to use. The Shortboard cost me £60 which was at the time the price you'd pay for a top-quality but standard keyboard for the office. (Cheap keyboards could be £4 or less.) The Shortboard wasn't a disaster, but it was substantially below my expectations. The keys had rubbery end stops, resulting in a touch of RSI in the final knuckle of each finger at the end of a day's typing. It felt solid but the keys rattled like crazy. The right-side control key acted strangely with some operating systems. The keytop legends looked cheap, and as it got old they wore off faster than any other keyboard I've ever owned. The built-in USB hub only just-about worked. Worst of all, something rattled about inside, and when I opened it up, I found it was a bit of metal from one of the USB sockets. However, 10 years later, keyboards were available in all sorts of shapes sizes and colors at all sorts of prices, and even some quite cheap ones have decent key action. There's hope yet!
@jaredvv86
@jaredvv86 3 жыл бұрын
I really kind of dig that case aesthetic. Also I never realized the WOW and FLUTTER being so obvious on piano music. Now I need to go back and listen on some of my older stuff and pay attention.
@naysmith5272
@naysmith5272 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i didn't know that either.
@DibIrken
@DibIrken 3 жыл бұрын
The solution is really simple, they just need to improve the cassette mechanism and bring it back to a decent quality. I like the idea of having bluetooth in a cassette. In the meantime, I am using a bluetooth transmitter on my WM-D6C so I can use my bluetooth headphones. That said, i hate built-in speakers on portable cassette players. That is one feature that I don't mind them not bringing back.
@martinb.770
@martinb.770 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of modularity joining different generations of gadgets and tech is appealing, but after decades of observing tons of ideas, I have to say: Mostly it doesn't make sense or the border between different devices was drawn in the wrong place = via an interface that doesn't make sense. Sure, the D6C was a gem of its generation, but what's the point of a BT cassette? This idea introduces 10x more problems than solutions. Btw - they DID improve the cassette, in various ways (DAT, VHS HiFi, and in this case: DCC) but all failed being a followup the the compact cassette for one reason: price or price/performance ratio compared to upcoming solutions like the CD / CD-R and the first MP3 players. I miss the feeling and haptics of older tech, too, but on the other hand: we forget the drawbacks, that were blown away by the digital era, like poor sound quality, noise, wobbling sound of vinyl and tapes, poor handling, dropouts when shaking, battery lifetime, no random access, many media to take along in the car or bag, .... Anyone could go back, but just as small number of people does, for a reason. And yes: current devices should develop back to better haptics and usability, and also connectivity (analog, digital, wireless), but that one, too, is a decision of the buyers.
@ar_xiv
@ar_xiv 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair it's hard to compete with Sony at the height of their hi-fi powers. Manufacturing something high quality at scale is no simple task. Best bet is Sony or Panasonic or someone just doing it themselves once again, and probably at a premium price
@chocolate_squiggle
@chocolate_squiggle 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is these days even buying name-brand doesn't guarantee you anything. I bought my mother a small Panasonic radio alarm clock couple years ago, just a small AM/FM bed-side thing and it's completely crap. Difficult to get tuned to the right station and when you do get rid of the crackly noise, you get muffled voices and background hiss. It's so utterly depressing. And it's not the fault of bad reception / placement because I also bought her a small hand-held radio to carry out to the garden and that works just fine. I paid extra for Panasonic wanting a half-decent device without odd user-interface quirks that would be hard to explain to an elderly parent in her 80's - but for what I got I would have been as well going to a discount chain store and picking up their cheapest $5 unit.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, bought a pair nuggetphones from Grunding and they sound awful compared to the pieces of plastic that came included with a recently bought mp3 player. Seriously, how can you own a known and trusted brand and mess up that bad in comparison with a freeby from a 20€ player that doesn't even has internal memory and needs a microsd to play anything. On the other hand I have a blutooth speaker for around the same price as the headphones from a company called "JAY-tech" that is really good for a small wireless block and beats the brand name headphones in every regard.
@donrobertson4940
@donrobertson4940 3 жыл бұрын
@@chocolate_squiggle my mother had a Panasonic VCR and TV and they were awful. I had to go to reset things in it all the time. Remote was horrible - tiny buttons. Launch nuclear weapons right next to the lights on type stuff. When she upgraded to a DVR and LCD TV, and went and bought a .... Panasonic. Same sorts of problems. They don't seem to want to work together at all. I used to have Sony. No problems with it. Easy to set up and use, VCR was easy to program etc. Now I have a Samsung TV. Next I'll get Sony. Pricy, I know, but never had any problem with any Sony product i've owned.
@simonbutterfield4860
@simonbutterfield4860 3 жыл бұрын
@@donrobertson4940 I guess it depends on the model, my parents bought a Panasonic VCR from the NAAFI in the early 80s and we never had a problem with it though I don't remember what TV set we had as it wasn't the same manufacturer. When I left home my mother had a more slimline model and I took the old one till it expired around 2000 and I had to use the controls on the mechanism as the remote had long since been lost. I get you had problems with your set up and yes Sony was and is high quality and pricey too but you get what you pay for, cheers.
@markboulton954
@markboulton954 3 жыл бұрын
Trouble is there is no real name-brands anymore. They're just logos pasted onto whatever rubbish you'd get from a no-brand. The expertise and will just isn't there anymore. It's like a hundred years of technical development has already become as buried as archaeological fossils, with the youngsters relying on new-tech understanding as much about what was possible 30 years ago as they do about the Palaeolithic period. I'm even amazed that these days they even know the tape has to go across the playback head. I've seen dramas and adverts where open-reel tape machines are depicted, and the tape is just threaded from one spool to another, not touching any of the tape path - and even laced from the top of one reel to the bottom of the other. People growing up today can't even see the physical, mechanical cause-and-effect of objects now, their 'learning ability' doesn't hone into such things if it's not something that helps them make TikToks, KZbin Shorts or other way of constantly branding their futile lives, and there's nothing in the media or publishing to encourage people to step out of the digital narcissism cycle, as long as they can program.
@drcarrot415
@drcarrot415 3 жыл бұрын
Classic Sony is unbeatable. I took your advice and dropped some money on a refurbished DD model a few months ago, and couldn’t be happier with it! I’ve used one modern personal stereo that was my friend’s sole player, and I felt so bad for him I bought him a Sony for $1 and he loved it
@Kylefassbinderful
@Kylefassbinderful 3 жыл бұрын
In the 90's as a kid I never was lucky enough to get a portable cassette player with a rewind function. I always rocked a humble JVC with Play>FFW>STOP. It's all good, it made me into the boy I am today.
@Kylefassbinderful
@Kylefassbinderful 3 жыл бұрын
It's too bad it sounds terrible cause it's simply beautiful imo. I love the see-through door, colors and just the all around design of the whole device.
@stonecoldreznov2780
@stonecoldreznov2780 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm glad I lucked out and found a old Sony sports Walkman for 3 bucks that still plays things perfectly
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Don't bother with portable cassette players in general. Use a proper home deck (an old, high quality one) and digitize any cassettes you have into a high bitrate lossless format. Then you can have your entire library on your phone, your computer, your home audio system, your car, or anywhere else you want. Ditto with vinyl. People think that any differences, real or imagined, between records and CDs are because CDs lose information. That is false. CDs are lossless. However, the tonal balance is often different because vinyl has compensating equalization that is (because it is done with analog electronics) not identical even between identical models and batches of turntable. Then there are differences between cartridges, styli, and the list goes on. Bottom line: vinyl is a long, long way from being "superior" to digital, especially lossless formats like CDs and FLAC, but if your personal taste prefers vinyl there's nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with somebody who likes to turn up the bass or down the treble. The truth of the the matter is that an audio recording and playback that was truly "accurate", with absolutely flat frequency response and zero artifacts introduced by equipment, format or media, would sound "flat" and "lifeless" to most people. All that is to say that audio is extremely subjective and while there are some things that would be universally perceived as bad, what constitutes "the best" is very different for different people. So if you like analog formats and fiddling with all the huge, clunky mechanisms and media then be my guest, but you can in fact take the audio quality with you in a digital format for use on the go. Don't get me wrong, I'm as nostalgic as anyone and do enjoy fiddling around with old audio equipment and media, but when I'm serious about quality and portability I go digital. And yet, I admit that I still really want one of those Sony "professional" Walkmans from the 1980s that I could never afford at the time. 😉 They were only slightly larger than a cassette without the box. When there was no tape inside they collapsed quite a bit smaller than any of the ones Mat has shown us. They had autoreverse, recording, metal tape compatibility and Dolby B and C. They were absolutely amazing, and extremely expensive. Of course, by the time I could afford to buy one of those, there were high quality portable CD players that had IR remote controls and were only slightly larger than a CD, and I got one of those instead. I think I may still have that in storage somewhere.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
Nakamichi Dragon?
@michaelkeller5008
@michaelkeller5008 3 жыл бұрын
But doing so, NEVER forget to give your old quality-deck some tender loving care now and then, remembering: there is no suitable replacement.
@Grace_Robbins
@Grace_Robbins 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't digitize, just enjoy "
@rookmaster7502
@rookmaster7502 3 жыл бұрын
But I can't listen to a proper home deck while I'm out hiking or whatever.
@madfinntech
@madfinntech 3 жыл бұрын
it's so perplexing that in these thing in the 1990s were smaller and better quality.
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me that I bought an extrremely horrible thing about 25 years ago. Very bad, but this is worse - thank you for showing and telling!
@DragonUltraMaster
@DragonUltraMaster 3 жыл бұрын
A bluetooth walkman. Never thought I'd see that combination. That's intresting.
@NewGoldStandard
@NewGoldStandard 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the comparison between the two cassette players was incredibly telling.
@DJRickDawson
@DJRickDawson 3 жыл бұрын
could tell the difference even using the speakers on my mobile.
@FreeKraps
@FreeKraps 3 жыл бұрын
Sad. I really want a decent cassette player to return. Hopefully with time someone will eventually develop their own product.
@timhull8664
@timhull8664 3 жыл бұрын
When you get that level of wow and flutter, ff to end, then rewind to beginning, this puts the whole tape into the correct position for this particular mechanism. I sometimes had to do this if I took tapes to a mates place and played my tapes on his mech
@TDCflyer
@TDCflyer 3 жыл бұрын
11:37 there on the left side, that blue Sony device - that was my first Walkman! And *boy* did that thing sound fabulous with it's original "open" headphones!
@GasparLewis
@GasparLewis 3 жыл бұрын
You know what? I've read my last "I kind of like wow and flutter for aesthetic purposes" comment; I'm done with it. Not because I think it's an invalid stance to take or way to feel, but here's the actual answer to that, and not just someone insisting that it's not the way it's meant to be played. Build a system with as little wow and flutter as possible under normal operation. In a recessed bay of controls under a hatch, include an extra switch and some roller wheels that lets you manually add and adjust irregularities to your liking. Everyone wins. (There's probably a music player program out there somewhere that can digitally simulate the effect as it is, and even add some hiss and dropout if you're feeling frisky.)
@fanbladeinstruments
@fanbladeinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
I routinely add a little vinyl surface noise to some of my own songs for aesthetic purposes, but I do it with a random flexidisk that has no groove on the B side, an old stylus, and I let it skate all over the place so it never sounds like a 1.8 second loop.
@mikolasstrajt3874
@mikolasstrajt3874 3 жыл бұрын
There are VSTs for this purpose (adding restro sound effects... eh, defects).
@Johnny.Fedora
@Johnny.Fedora 3 жыл бұрын
Some people were conditioned earlier in life to feel that music has to have wow/flutter/dropouts/crosstalk in order to sound "right." It's a nostalgia thing, though for some younger people, the retro aspect is cool and makes them feel uber-clever to be into it. I'm pretty sure that over time that will fade away, except as an intentional special dramatic effect.
@dwarftoad
@dwarftoad 3 жыл бұрын
Wow and flutter produces a warmer, more intimate sound.
@serratusx
@serratusx 3 жыл бұрын
They put it in records now to add that retro feel. It’s all over the latest pet shop boys album which is infuriating. It adds a sort of seasick feeling to otherwise beautiful songs
@QuintusCunctator
@QuintusCunctator 3 жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised that, considering there is a market for audiophiles who would like to play cassette tapes with a modicum of quality, or even fans of new-retro novelties, no manufacturer has stepped in with a decent product.
@gabd.5299
@gabd.5299 3 жыл бұрын
Probably that market is not big enough. And frankly, it is just gimmicky at this point. If you have an old cassette collection you probably have a decent player. There is sites that help you fix it if something wrong with it. Even in these videos you can see when Mat ordering parts for their old machines.
@scottysunday
@scottysunday 3 жыл бұрын
I'd snap a new one up pretty quickly if there was. Much easier buying a new product than dealing with inflated ebay prices.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 жыл бұрын
Once you develop such a mechanism and set up manufacturing, troubleshoot it to where it actually performs as-engineered, you have to do one of two things. Either you sell it for like half a grand a piece, and then all those people would be like "see you should have just bought an old one, this new stuff is pointless"; or you have to hope that it sells for YEARS in decent amounts, and that just isn't likely to happen. I don't think the niche market is deep enough. The thing with record players really is that they never went away. There are for one DJs and there's a massive crowd of them who need simple, dependable players which don't perform too badly; and for other it was also the mainstay among audiophiles, with manufacturers charging an arm and a leg, and with a few pillars present, the ecosystem could also support more niche manufacturers. Tape fell into a void where it doesn't have a dedicated userbase, just blips of popularity, plus the devices are several orders of magnitude more complex and need much more tooling and assembly. I think best case would be to take an existing mechanism and rework just the motor to be brushless and fully electronically controlled.
@fanbladeinstruments
@fanbladeinstruments 3 жыл бұрын
Well made cassette decks tend to last quite a long time - due to them being quite well made - and any audiophile with any interest in cassettes will have found a very good second hand one, probably fairly cheaply. I have a friend who is an audio archivist, the sound library he works for has every kind of machine for getting the best out of every kind of recording medium, and they're all routinely checked and maintained and will probably outlast everyone who works there. Hence the market for new professional grade machines just isn't that big, and if anyone wanted to put in the time to make a decent one again it would be so expensive as to put it out of the reach of the common consumer anyway.
@unglaubiger5645
@unglaubiger5645 3 жыл бұрын
They won´t sell many of them. There is a market but it is small. Those mechansisms are very complex anf therefore expensive if not produced in large quantities.
@eileen4876
@eileen4876 3 жыл бұрын
never in a million years did i think i would see iz*one in a techmoan video lol but i do appreciate this review. i wanted to buy it as a collectible for the group and was actually wondering how it stacked up against various other walkmans
@ianminzy
@ianminzy 3 жыл бұрын
actually for me its a spillover on two of my interests: kpop and retro tech
@Geferulf_TAS
@Geferulf_TAS 3 жыл бұрын
All my current cassette production and dubbing equipment is from the 1980s no joke stuff was built to last
@eyelessfish83
@eyelessfish83 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the info! 11+ years ago while cleaning out a closet, I came across My shoe box full of tapes. Which sort of rekindled My appreciation for the format. Fortunately I had a functional player in a bookshelf stereo and My old Sony FM/AM walkman WM-FX123 was still inclined to play cassettes. I bought My first pre-recorded tape within this new + glittering century (since the late 90s) a few years ago. Which happened tp be Mr. Gary Numan's "Savage: Songs from a Broken World" (Btw a brilliantly powerful album, imho). Anyway, sadly My walkman player started to malfunction several years back and I have yet to have found & taken it to an electronics repair shop, since the unit's casing is fused/sealed shut. Fortunately, I still have My Teac W-505R dual deck as My sole source for playing My tapes. I have purchased a few more pre-recorded tapes within the last year and have been curious about the new portable models coming out featured with bluetooth capability. Although I suspected that they were all equipped with the same low grade mech'. Could you, or someone more learned than I anout this subject here, reccomend a modern tape player of moderate cost and hopefully offer a near high quality playback listening experience? Please + thank you
@Syphamusic
@Syphamusic 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Very helpful for me as I modify old tape players/recorders. The bad quality ones are actually very useful for experimental musicians. We use them all the time, the more wow and flutter the better! Actually we add the flutter in as a modification along with speed control for the playback. Then we use short tape loop cassettes in them and have it as a part of an ambient composition or something like that. I will be buying a load of the worst models possible very soon!
@jjukkyumiz
@jjukkyumiz 3 жыл бұрын
never thought I’d see 2 of my passions: occasionally old a/v tech and K-pop have a crossover like this. -especially in a video from Techmoan! haha thanks for the video as always Mat, your incredibly informative videos have been a true source of joy to me for the last 5 years!
@Individualman929
@Individualman929 3 жыл бұрын
A rare breed yes, but we exist.
@Spillerrec
@Spillerrec 3 жыл бұрын
These videos really makes me curious to how difficult it would be to actually make something that sounds decent. Ignoring the size constrains (which is surely not the issue for the boom boxes), could you hack something together yourself? I'm actually tempted to try it out, not as a serious attempt at creating something, but just as a learning experience (ambition level: something which moves the tape and produces a sound).
@AustinWelles
@AustinWelles 3 жыл бұрын
5:50 "Yeah, it really sounds terrible" - Perfect automatic atmosphere machine
@emilybowman6415
@emilybowman6415 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, it almost sounds like it's an intentional vaporwave prop. I wonder if this is what Gen Z thinks cassettes and VHS were really like!
@djblackarrow
@djblackarrow 3 жыл бұрын
At the 80s/90s i also had a Sony Walkman. When I was at school, I used it almost every day. It also ran on two AA batteries and was extremely reliable. Well, I also cleaned the Pinch rollers and the tape head regularly myself. I can also confirm that Sony knew exactly what and how to build something. I don't know if I still have my old Walkman lying around somewhere. In any case, I still have some old cassettes lying around and a Sony TC-WE505 cassette deck that is still working. I'm actually using my old and first FM-Stereo/FM-AM Receiver (Sony STR-DE205) every day. I'm using it mainly as a real Amplifier sitting on my Desktop for my PC. I even bought extra spare parts (amplifier chip, output stage transistors, transformer) in case something should break after all these years. So I can bring it back to life if necessary. I will use it for as long as possible.
@jimmymelendez1836
@jimmymelendez1836 Жыл бұрын
*In
@TomsManShed
@TomsManShed 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sherwood home theater amp for years and it was pretty good.....I always thought it was Richer Sounds own make.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
I recall quite a few different retailers stocking that brand.
@SINTD_666
@SINTD_666 3 жыл бұрын
I also had a Sherwood home theatre received from Richer Sounds. I was well impressed with it and it’s features. It may not have been the greatest unit out there at the time but it was well worth the money and with the speakers and audio sources I owed, it sounded exactly how I wanted it to do. As far as I’m concerned, it impressed the most important audio critic on the planet….. me.
@JoeUrbanYYC
@JoeUrbanYYC 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to do a analysis of the mechanism to see what might be the easiest way to improve the performance. I have little hope that someone will design a good mechanism from scratch with the tooling creation involved, but incremental improvement of existing designs is more realistic.
@jackroutledge352
@jackroutledge352 3 жыл бұрын
Just replacing the motor with a stepper motor would go a long way. That way you can guarantee it's operating at the correct speed. A larger sintered steel flywheel will help as well. Then there's the head. If that's not much good there's probably nothing you can do, as I doubt there are many options for sourcing one of those.
@JoeUrbanYYC
@JoeUrbanYYC 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackroutledge352 I also wonder how good the belts are. I've used those cheap bags of assorted belts and some are decent but others in the same bag can be terrible. The belts in these machines may be similar inconsistent quality.
@LutherGaylord
@LutherGaylord 3 жыл бұрын
6:55 TODAY I LEARNED: on a hiding to nothing
@movieedge7370
@movieedge7370 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always, I enjoy watching how you critique stuff and showing how everything works. I think this Walkman is more for a piece of nostalgia then actually Play ability. Here in the United States We do get cassettes made but they’re more for anniversaries of a bands album single etc . I like that they come out with these things from time to time to show kids of today what we grew up with from yesteryear But that’s all there worth. Instead of bringing the past back work on the future maybe bring CDs back but smaller more compact then 5 inch discs I’ll be up for that.
@martinb.770
@martinb.770 3 жыл бұрын
Just 3 weeks ago, I dug up my 30y old Panasonic, really flat + black anodized stylish gem, fitting in the trouser pocket. Later on, I got a disc player, which of course sounded better, but instead of say 3 mix tapes, you had to carry around the 3x larger player + disc bag, so, a mixed feelings progress. Anyhow, these (expensive) devices had style and haptics. Nowadays, you stick a 5$ (micro)SD card into some random player, and depending on the speakers/headphones, you get decent sound, but during some moments, enjoying music like that also lost most of its soul. So, sometimes, a nice living room with a big classic amp that won't choke at the hint of bass + sophisticated arranged speakers + subtle tuning of the surround mode plus maybe a hint of EQ + some CD or even LP + a looong afternoon incl. chilling into the mood will get you back to the ancient experience music + a really good original voice had once.
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