100 Junk MDs - How many did I get working

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Techmoan

Techmoan

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@Kenny_P_abz
@Kenny_P_abz 3 жыл бұрын
I love how initially laid out all your repair materials but half way through you resorted to giving it a whack. Your videos are a Saturday highlight - cheers.
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 3 жыл бұрын
👋💥
@misterkite
@misterkite 3 жыл бұрын
"Percussive maintenance"
@kevwang0712
@kevwang0712 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, if a machine relies on a spinning motor that's having trouble getting its spin starting, wouldn't it be possible that a good whack might just be the kickstart it needs?
@AlfaGiuliaQV
@AlfaGiuliaQV 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevwang0712 Just like an old car might need a damn good thrashing from time to time.
@alexanderthomas2660
@alexanderthomas2660 3 жыл бұрын
Giving it a whack is not as wacky as it may sound! I have noticed that the biggest problem with my old Sharp MD player (besides the gumstick battery being deader than dead after all these years) is that the carriage can get stuck when it hasn't moved for a long time. A good whack will usually remedy this.
@Steakkiller
@Steakkiller 3 жыл бұрын
When life gives you lemons, clean your Minidisc player 🍋
@CathyInBlue
@CathyInBlue 3 жыл бұрын
Don't make life take the lemons back? Don't demand to see life's manager?
@Steakkiller
@Steakkiller 3 жыл бұрын
@@CathyInBlue Nah. I'd probably just bake some lemon cake. Not gonna lie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@BLenz-114
@BLenz-114 3 жыл бұрын
@@CathyInBlue Oh I demand to see life's manager almost daily, but that guy's a wily one and hasn't made an appearance yet. Starting to wonder a bit . . . .
@lemoneer7474
@lemoneer7474 2 жыл бұрын
@@CathyInBlue Don’t have the scientists develop a lemon that can burn your house down?
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 жыл бұрын
Any time you get a salvage rate over 50% from a total grab bag, you've done well.
@themlotproductions
@themlotproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but at roughly £50 each it’s not quite a bargain!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 жыл бұрын
@@themlotproductions £50? I thought it worked out to more like £10 per working unit when it was all said and done, and a couple of the salvaged units are really nice recorders.
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 2 жыл бұрын
I find them regularly at the recycling center and they pretty much all work, I also find 7/8th gen i7/i5 laptops that work. It's surprising how people don't care about outdated but perfectly fine tech stuff.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurentiusTriarius At least MiniDisc requires actual discs which are kind of rare -- unlike that 7th/8th gen laptop, which isn't obsolete by any stretch. I'm typing this on a 3rd gen Celeron! I should hang around your recycling center and snag an upgrade or three.
@Jrodsly
@Jrodsly 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I know Techmoan said not to buy these lots, but I'm still tempted by one of these lots. My Dad wants to split a lot with me at some point, so I want to try one out for fun.
@andyflange
@andyflange 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the ones with a TOC read error may have a similar issue to mine which was sat unused for over 10 years... the motor for the read head had seized. I lubricated the Worm gear and gently moved the read head back and forward numerous times by hand to try and unsieze it. Worked for a while but seemed to seize again 20 or so minutes into a disc so I re-opened it, cleaned the worm gear with IPA, re-lubricated and manipulated the read head again and it has worked perfectly since
@Dolphination
@Dolphination 3 жыл бұрын
Good work!
@ShakaCthulu
@ShakaCthulu 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to give that a shot. I refuse to condemn my Sony MD deck to the trashbin.
@ujustgotpwned2008
@ujustgotpwned2008 2 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to work out why International-Style Pale Ale was useful in this, but Isopropyl Alcohol is probably more useful
@stylesuxx
@stylesuxx 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, back in the high times of MD I was working as a repair technician for Sony, you would not believe how many devices were sent in for repair and just had the hold button in the locked position - we even had a special card that explained what the hold button does :-D
@Gappasaurus
@Gappasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Me: “Perhaps Mat buying and repairing 100 MD players is just a bit too much?” 🤔 Luther Vandross: 🎶 “Never too much, never too much, never too much…” 🎵
@deanchur
@deanchur 3 жыл бұрын
For the full early 2000's experience I recommend connecting one of the MD players to a Playstation 2 via the optical out and recording game music so you can listen to it later. Many good memories of recording MSX FM from GTA3 to Hi-MD via the optical out
@TobyRieper48
@TobyRieper48 9 ай бұрын
This is how I recorded all of my music back in the day!
@MoultrieGeek
@MoultrieGeek 3 жыл бұрын
After watching your efforts with contact cleaning I got motivated to clean/change the batteries in my lounge wall clock. Thanks Mat!
@kkgt6591
@kkgt6591 3 жыл бұрын
Dude 😆
@1969longshanks
@1969longshanks 3 жыл бұрын
All ready for when the clocks go back
@julianjv7325
@julianjv7325 Жыл бұрын
Jajajaja.
@Darxide23
@Darxide23 3 жыл бұрын
In all my years of troubleshooting and repair, I've learned that "dirty laser lenses" is kind of a myth. Unless it was one of those stereo/boombox types with the lid that opened fully and some kid with jam hands was getting the lens all sticky with boogers and whatnot, then cleaning the laser lens is more or less a lesson in futility.
@russelllukenbill
@russelllukenbill Жыл бұрын
Kind of like how when I clean my glasses, I somehow gain perfect eyesight. lol
@testname4464
@testname4464 Жыл бұрын
@@russelllukenbill No because glasses genuinely do get dirty. Water, dust, and other gunk gets all over the lenses since they're exposed 24/7
@russelllukenbill
@russelllukenbill Жыл бұрын
@@testname4464 Yes, but they rarely get dirty enough that you can't make out what it is your seeing, it is just a little blurry or whatever. I can't remember the last time that my glasses were so dirty that I couldn't see out of them at all, except when coming in from outside and they fog for a few minutes, but that is not the same thing.
@testname4464
@testname4464 Жыл бұрын
@@russelllukenbill What kinda perfect world do you live in? I have to clean my glasses every few days or else everything gets blurry
@russelllukenbill
@russelllukenbill Жыл бұрын
@@testname4464 I don't know what to tell you. I didn't say that I never clean my glasses, I said that they don't get dirty enough for me not to be able to see out of them entirely. Blurry is not the same as complete obstructed. I obviously live in the same world as you and it certainly isn't perfect. I won't keep arguing this with you, have a nice life.
@CBitsTech
@CBitsTech 3 жыл бұрын
Lemon smells better than white vinegar! Good tip, thanks.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 3 жыл бұрын
Citric amd ascorbic acid vs acetic acid - basic chemistry classes teach them all.
@senorcapitandiogenes2068
@senorcapitandiogenes2068 3 жыл бұрын
But lemon juice contains a lot of sugar. Make sure to rinse it off with an appropiate amount of destilled water.
@senorcapitandiogenes2068
@senorcapitandiogenes2068 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesTK Might I suggest Chlorine Triflouride instead? Its just more convenient
@iaincowell9747
@iaincowell9747 3 жыл бұрын
@@senorcapitandiogenes2068 if you are using pure lemon juice then no it doesn't contain a lot of sugar. Lemons have a low sugar content
@croolis
@croolis 3 жыл бұрын
The way most of the Sony devices work is that the lid of the gumstick battery bay, with the positive contact, connects to the chassis through the hinge - if the hinge has corrosion in it, there is a good chance it won't connect. This can be tested using a multimeter between the battery terminal and the terminal for the external battery case as these are wired in parallel. Thanks for the great videos as always.
@inactiveytchannel
@inactiveytchannel 3 жыл бұрын
*This is the most Techmoan thing I've ever seen*
@bsadewitz
@bsadewitz 3 жыл бұрын
It does exemplify the paradigm, doesn't it?
@bengelman2600
@bengelman2600 3 жыл бұрын
Totally🤣
@shantrannyduck
@shantrannyduck 3 жыл бұрын
yes totally certifiable :] and REALLY fun
@victorvangrimgamming6784
@victorvangrimgamming6784 3 жыл бұрын
SONY: "wow look at how many minidisc players are being bought amd how much buzz their is about minidisc. Perhaps it's makeing a comeback?" Matt: "today I'm cleaning 100 minidisc players"
@punksci6879
@punksci6879 3 жыл бұрын
I'd strongly advise using IPA after the lemon juice, organic residue left on it will cause problems again in short order.
@TimRrstrm
@TimRrstrm 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, clear vinegar is a better choice.
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 3 жыл бұрын
Organic Residue seems like a nice band name.
@pand3mic942
@pand3mic942 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinnytotheK It sounds more to me like a term used in a bad hotel review
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 3 жыл бұрын
@@pand3mic942 😧
@hoffwell
@hoffwell 3 жыл бұрын
India Pale Ale?
@retractingblinds
@retractingblinds 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Techmoan, I work on a lot of CD drives for game consoles and one of the surprise culprits for them has been the sensor switches for lid, media or laser positions. These are usually little pressure lever based microswitches. Using the youtube standard deoxit I've had a lot of success cleaning these switches and watching the devices spring back to life. They seem to be prone to oxidization. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if some of these mini disc players have a sensor switch or two gummed up from the elements and are in need of contact restoration. Try it if you can, but shield sensitive elements like the laser lens from the spray.
@trzarector
@trzarector 3 жыл бұрын
What is it about MD that still fascinates us!!! The amount of variations of design is amazing. Some great looking machines you’ve got there. Great video from a fellow MD lover! 💽
@KarlAdamsAudio
@KarlAdamsAudio 3 жыл бұрын
19:56 my Sony D-35 Discman had an episode of "scrambled buttons" that turned out to be a dirty hold switch that was making partial contact - a bit of exercise & it came good, thankfully.
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 3 жыл бұрын
Some machines have a two wire control where different resistors are connected to request different actions. A dirty contact somewhere is going to throw off those values enough that buttons end up doing something other than what they are labeled for. This may be a fairly simple fix.
@brysimm404
@brysimm404 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many different MiniDisc player designs were actually made and sold - outside the USA anyway. My SHARP unit still works, and takes AA batteries instead of using a "gum stick".
@mpersad
@mpersad 3 жыл бұрын
"Schrödinger's mini disc" - priceless!
@Ineedanameplease
@Ineedanameplease 3 жыл бұрын
He said “you ain’t getting any of my mini disc players!” 😆 and I resonate with that
@rahb1
@rahb1 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! I am SO impressed by your patience and persistence! I am now *really* annoyed I gave away all my MD stuff. Absolutely perfect for community radio.
@Blackadder75
@Blackadder75 3 жыл бұрын
Or use a phone....
@DJNeiloSF
@DJNeiloSF 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: you might want to neutralize that lemon acid on the device when you are done cleaning, otherwise it may cause unwanted corrosion over time.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know that from bitter experience?
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaos.corner Kind of sours the deal, doesn't it.
@kevinr.3542
@kevinr.3542 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you just bought a lemon
@andypyne
@andypyne 3 жыл бұрын
The simple solution is to use partially corroded batteries so that the leaking alkaline neutralises the lemon juice.... 🤔
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣
@minipolenet
@minipolenet 3 жыл бұрын
I bought MD recoder because I was interested in minidisc after seeing your past video, and I bought junk condition Sony netMD with battery terminal corroded because I did not want to spend a lot of money on discontinued devices. This was easily removed with a home rust remover containing phosphoric acid and then operated perfectly
@n2n8sda
@n2n8sda 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the Sony MD players have a hidden service menu where you can do laser and magnetic diagnostics. Some of the older portable recorders might play discs but will fail / choppy audio when trying to record.
@WinterCedar
@WinterCedar 3 жыл бұрын
How do you access it?
@sweaterfish6311
@sweaterfish6311 3 жыл бұрын
I've also had a problem on a couple units where any edit to the TOC (even just renaming or moving a track without recording anything new) corrupts the whole TOC and makes the disc unreadable. I assume this would only apply to recorders, too, since the players don't have any TOC editing ability.
@countgent
@countgent 3 жыл бұрын
You can find the way in the user manual. Just find the pdf you need. I fixed some TOC issues that way. But not for long !
@HeyPatch
@HeyPatch 3 жыл бұрын
For the mz-r55 it’s like the conami code 😂 ff ww ff ww ff ww vol up vol down play pause play pause 😂 (FYI that isn’t the actual code, look for the service manual for your player the see how to access the diagnostics menu)
@sofa-lofa4241
@sofa-lofa4241 3 жыл бұрын
Not a bad result in the end, just shows how contact cleaner can help! Personally, I use De-ox it, it's not cheap but will save devices for years... Bad battery contacts, switches, pots, etc. It's been worth it's weight in gold over the years, saved many portables, amps, etc.
@sohatyi
@sohatyi 3 жыл бұрын
You might have one of the largest collections of working MiniDisc players in the world.
@TheducksOrg
@TheducksOrg 3 жыл бұрын
@@plan7a also Techmoan :)
@whomee2
@whomee2 3 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of notes from my CD experiences: 1) The external battery packs: you mention that some of them don't line up, being too narrow or too wide; I had one that those contacts could be slid along a channel to line up. It wasn't an official sony or other name brand product, I recall is was an off-brand, universal type of thing. Not sure if any of yours may have that option, or if you could even come across one on an auction site. 2) The Lens Cleaning Discs: first of all, that lens cleaner with the ribbon that you wiggle, with the little brush on the disc--that is how all CD lens cleaners work, they all have a brush of some kind stuck to the disc to spin around on the laser. If you opened up that official sony lens cleaning disc, you would (i'm 99.9% sure) find a little brush affixed to the disc in the same manner. Also, with my cd-lens cleaners, I always put a drop of isopropyl/rubbing alcohol on that little brush before i put the cd into to the player. It always seemed to get the player working for a good while before needing cleaned again.
@SvenBollue
@SvenBollue 3 жыл бұрын
Depends what one considers 'working'. Most of the old portables will play fine, but recording correctly, that's a whole different ballgame. Because in that case, the very frilly magnetic head that touches the top layer of the disc needs to still be perfectly aligned with the last underneath the disc, the tiny flat cable not broken and the magnetic head not clogged with dust/dirt.
@Chief89Music
@Chief89Music 3 жыл бұрын
wow I like how fiercely you ended up staying on this topic and turned this into a series even very awesome especially also and as for me to see since I skipped that minidisc thing back in the day so all the more nice to see what it was about as for the now retro tech . . .
@surfacematter2098
@surfacematter2098 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why we love these MD videos so much? I dont get it..but here I am, watching and wanting one for no reason other than they look cool and you make them seem really interesting.
@burendasan
@burendasan 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the time, money, or space to do what he did so I feel like I’m living vicariously watching him go through all the MD player models and try to fix them.
@saoirsecameron
@saoirsecameron 4 ай бұрын
To me they seem like the perfect technology for the moment. In an age of subscription where we own nothing, physical media is making a comeback, and minidisc seems like the perfect compromise between the sound quality of CD and the portability and read/write abilities of cassette tapes. I’m not good at fixing and troubleshooting old tech, but if they started making these again I would purchase one.
@MarcGrondin
@MarcGrondin 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see so many of them working. This is just the type of thing I would spend a week on lol.
@yahnsolo
@yahnsolo 3 жыл бұрын
A thing to consider is that very very thin dust that comes from jean’s pockets. Especially those thin devices that goes often on pockets. The dust sneaks in the optical assembly, on the prism and make the reading to fail (TOC errors, or erratic play after some lucky attempts).
@phantom2012
@phantom2012 3 жыл бұрын
I and many of my friends had them in the day. There's a reason the corners are often worn. The corner smack was common to unjam the micro motor that spun the disc, or the carriage. I had a sony recorder and it failed once. One slap and it was sorted.
@TheRolandS69
@TheRolandS69 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and I really enjoyed seeing the outcome from the previous video. I never did own a Minidisc and have no plans to, but still interesting.
@johnrose8145
@johnrose8145 3 жыл бұрын
10 hours! You have the patience of a saint. Great stuff, love your videos, keep up the good work (because I wouldn't have the patience - and neither would the wife).
@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker
@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker 3 жыл бұрын
Schrödinger's minidiscs indeed. Good old Techmoan! Looking forward to the *next* job lot of MD players (assuming old Mat hasn't bought them all already...).
@glenngogoll6166
@glenngogoll6166 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos. As a 30 year, retired veteran of the Australian audio industry, youve shown me things that ive never heard of, let alone seen. Inwas, vaguely familiar with the Philips ski slope, but i dont remember actually seeing one. But then,these days, i dont remeber a lot of things. Cheers & keep up the good work. After 30 years in the business, it gets in your blood & I’ll always be interested in old stuff.
@LboroWick
@LboroWick 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure why I watched the whole of this video and enjoyed it. It’s just some guy in England importing a pile of Japanese junk and going through it piece by piece. I guess Techmoan does it so we don’t have to. I genuinely love it. 😁
@anonUK
@anonUK 3 жыл бұрын
Shakespeare was just some guy in England who wrote stuff.
@DavidSGrop
@DavidSGrop 3 жыл бұрын
You know why.
@gregx5096
@gregx5096 3 жыл бұрын
Techmoan does it because we CAN'T!
@meechmushrooms
@meechmushrooms 3 жыл бұрын
"The things are blind; they can't see the disc at all." That made me laugh harder than it should have.
@crbielert
@crbielert 3 жыл бұрын
I know its like 20 pounds for a tiny can, but the full strength "d100" deoxit whips through the really crusty green contacts pretty well.
@startedtech
@startedtech 3 жыл бұрын
I just use some random cheap brand they sell at the store. It works great.
@MikeStavola
@MikeStavola 3 жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz from my experience, the spray stains some plastic finishes, but the brush on stuff hasn't been a problem. I last used the spray about 15 years ago, so they may have changed the formulation.
@crbielert
@crbielert 3 жыл бұрын
I work in a job where nobody cares about discolored plastic and time is of the essence. Thanks though, didnt know it could discolour some plastics. Haven't experienced that, myself.
@JonnyInfinite
@JonnyInfinite 3 жыл бұрын
I used vinegar on my Minidisc player that had had a battery go bad in it. Worked a treat
@crbielert
@crbielert 3 жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz yeah, i primarily use it on electronics with metal chassis, vacuum tube sockets, and automotive connectors. Edit: they sell a different formula of it specifically for pots and faders.
@UnholyTriforceDelenn
@UnholyTriforceDelenn 3 жыл бұрын
The more videos you do on the MD format, the more I'm obsessed with it, Mat! I really love MDs, and I really want to get a Hi-Fi or Mini Hi-Fi MD player that can record discs with the metadata included, as well as a bunch of recordable discs and start burning them with my favourite music. I'll then take those discs, along with any pre-recorded albums I can get hold of, and play them on a portable MD player, making that my primary listening device when I'm out and about (whenever that becomes a thing again without lockdowns and such). I dunno if you're planning to do any more videos on MDs, but if you do, I'm looking forward to them!
@startedtech
@startedtech 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, great vid as always! From my personal experience I'd recommend using white vinegar over lemon juice, there's a lot less residue and impurities that get left behind.
@tithund
@tithund 3 жыл бұрын
+1, Fixed up a bunch of stuff with the vinegar.
@gregx5096
@gregx5096 3 жыл бұрын
+1 here too. Actually managed to get a "frozen" 9V alkaline battery's contact free from a unit's connector with a bit of a soak in a tiny dish of cleaning vinegar (6% acidity rather than the usual 5%, not much difference really)
@MrMattGrid
@MrMattGrid 3 жыл бұрын
MiniDiscs passed me by, never even seen one for real, ripped all my CDs to MP3 20 years ago - which coincidently, today is the 20th anniversary of the launch of the Apple iPod 🤓 Interesting video though!
@andypyne
@andypyne 3 жыл бұрын
At what bitrate? I did that too at 192AAC after doing my own A/B test to determine where to my ears the compressed sound was transparent to the original. Turns out my process was flawed and I have spent years re-ripping/downloading in ALAC (can be losslessly conveyed to FLAC)
@Frenchmisto
@Frenchmisto 3 жыл бұрын
You’re an amazing man! I enjoy watching your KZbin videos so much. Kind regards from a French man living in Japan!
@natanbagley8949
@natanbagley8949 3 жыл бұрын
こんにちわ、monsieur.
@4tehlulz
@4tehlulz 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the follow-up video and great to see quite a few working. Preparations for the collapse of the global economy when Mini-disk players become a currency is well under way!!!
@toomanymarys7355
@toomanymarys7355 2 жыл бұрын
Better than bottle caps!
@karvast5726
@karvast5726 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of a apocalypse would use minidiscs player as currency lol
@AristarcoPalacios
@AristarcoPalacios 3 жыл бұрын
I was happy about the MD players that work. Then you dropped the bomb "I'm not selling them to you" and my heart shattered and broke into a million bits. 😢
@ampsmashed
@ampsmashed 3 жыл бұрын
All Hail the Mighty Lemon 👐 Excellent weekend viewing whilst doing my soldering. Honestly amazed that any of these kinds of micro devices still work at all. Tempted to buy one myself. Some seem bomb proof.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
@paulmurgatroyd6372 3 жыл бұрын
The madness of the 'barely different' battery adapters makes me seethe.
@smorris12
@smorris12 3 жыл бұрын
Misbehaving buttons happens to various Sony things. I think they must use a resistor ladder affair (*) and grot under the contacts affects the resistance. * All the switches are paralleled together, each with their own resistor in series. The processor measures the voltage on an analogue input to then determine which button is pressed
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 3 жыл бұрын
Neat trick, used it on some of my MCU projects where I had a free ADC pin but not enough digital ones to make a matrix. Tho I do wonder why would they go with this strategy for like 5 buttons or so, even tho that's kinda a good quantity to use this technique for (too many and they will most certainly fail).
@smorris12
@smorris12 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalvinjj My mother has a Sony radio/cd thing in the kitchen which gets continual use. Both unit and remote control buttons are temperamental but it took well over 10 years to manifest itself so I have to admit that that's definitely "good enough" from a manufacturer
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Huge amount of time required to test and clean all of those!
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 3 жыл бұрын
Schrödinger's mini disc! I love it. You could probably test a few of those with some test leads wired to a battery or power supply.
@green929392
@green929392 3 жыл бұрын
If your ever looking to get rid of the broken machines Im sure Colin from "This Does Not Compute" would be happy to accept them. Hes diagnosed and fixed a bunch of players on his youtube channel.
@magicalpencil
@magicalpencil 3 жыл бұрын
going through all of those broken MD players reminded me of the prison scene from A Fistful of Yen "who are they?" "Just lost drunken men who don't know where they are and no longer care" "And these?" "These are lost drunken men who don't know where they are, but do care! And these are men who know where they are and care, but don't drink."
@svenjansen2134
@svenjansen2134 4 ай бұрын
That's from Kentucky Fried Movie, the parody.
@wearetomorrowspast.5617
@wearetomorrowspast.5617 3 жыл бұрын
I could watch Mini-Disc vids all day long. Just a perfect use of technology. Useful, compact, user friendly. Loved the the whole thing.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I think I had that rectangular Sony in the "working" layout (far right, second row from the top). Not that specific one, obviously, but I owned two MD players back in the day, and I think the first one was one of those. (The second was a very elaborate Sharp player/recorder that never came out officially in the US, which had a clickwheel around the center display like the early iPods. You had one that looked similar, but not quite the same, in the earlier "box o' junk MD players" video.) The Sharp died of electronic dementia, but the Sony was still working the last time I tried it. No idea where it (or any of the discs I had) might be now--I've moved a couple of times since then and lost track of the lot. Probably in a box upstairs somewhere, which I suspect is the fate of most consumer electronics. It was oddly satisfying to see how many of them you could resurrect.
@realmackle
@realmackle 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly just having the high-md one working would make this entire endeavor a success in my book
@kevinh96
@kevinh96 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, he paid £500 for this haul and a standard HiMD player in good working order can be bought on Ebay for around £120-£200 depending on cosmetic condition and accessories. Sure some of the more sought after models go for more but the more basic ones such as the NH600 or NH700 can even go for less if it's a bare bones unit.
@realmackle
@realmackle 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinh96 I was just saying for the sense of accomplishment
@gregx5096
@gregx5096 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that one not working on the initial attempts as well? Glad that it decided to wake up now!
@RyanBuskirk
@RyanBuskirk 3 жыл бұрын
"These hold one gigabyte; wow, it's the future isin't it!?" 🤣
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 3 жыл бұрын
It was!
@j.lindback
@j.lindback 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! You sure did a great effort salvaging those lovely machines. MiniDisc was the format that made listening to music both easy and fun!
@SalomeDoyle
@SalomeDoyle 3 жыл бұрын
somewhat heart breaking that the Cinnamoroll (the cute Sanrio mascot/character) player never made it back to life :(
@nagualdesign
@nagualdesign 3 жыл бұрын
Hearth breaking. ☺️
@autumnwyvern489
@autumnwyvern489 3 жыл бұрын
i know!!! i was rooting for that one 🥺
@kennethhardcastle
@kennethhardcastle 3 жыл бұрын
And made in 2004 it's one of the younger ones :/
@skywind007
@skywind007 3 жыл бұрын
Techmoan, you should have picked a single grand winner and then made a separate 5 minute video about it.
@synthaxx7313
@synthaxx7313 3 жыл бұрын
Signed working machines as a top tier patreon reward? Either way, great stuff as always!
@lancethrustworthy
@lancethrustworthy 3 жыл бұрын
I use white vinegar instead of lemon juice. I was thinking it would be close to 50/50, but I'm glad to see the numbers were in your favor. Bravo.
@tranmere292
@tranmere292 3 жыл бұрын
Quite entertaining in its own way! I've never had an MD - that particular format passed me by. However, the tip re lemon juice on corroded contacts was useful. I have a treasured elderly digital SLR with the problem and it might be the solution. It still works but I don't want things to get any worse.
@rusuclaudiu1988
@rusuclaudiu1988 3 жыл бұрын
I use vinegar. Is stronger and faster. The downsize is that i use it only when I dismantle the stuff because I am rinsing the piece in water just to remove any residue. Otherwise in couple of months you will see that it is more corroded than before
@rusuclaudiu1988
@rusuclaudiu1988 3 жыл бұрын
@@nonoyorbusness i am using a potentiometer spray. It's a mix of solvents and something oily. Vaseline sometimes is too much on these battery doors. We want to use these parts of the past and nobody likes greasy machines. But is quite effective this spray. The oily stuff goes into the remaining pores and seals it. Of course, is a temporary fix but for a long period six months to a year. A permanent fix would be replate it but....anyway i have never seen a corroded walkman if the batteries weren't forgot inside.
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen white vinegar used to dissolve the oxidation, followed by a good clean with Deoxit to remove any remaining contamination and acid.
@grfeld84
@grfeld84 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that the majority of the players worked! Thank you for sharing the experience!
@ForDemoPurposesOnly
@ForDemoPurposesOnly 3 жыл бұрын
As always, very educational and engaging, with essentially a science experiment (demo of the lemon juice) thrown in.
@rooneyscape
@rooneyscape 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a Porsche Boxster from new (back in the day) and insisted on having the factory fitted MD player as I was so into minidiscs. Kept the car for 16 years and felt obliged to pass on all my minidisc equipment to the purchaser when I sold the car. Wish I’d kept some of it. It was a great format
@mykelevangelista6492
@mykelevangelista6492 3 жыл бұрын
As with so many Techmoan videos, I so want to keep hitting the upvote button. Trouble is, you can only do it the once - sad, but true.
@FiXato
@FiXato 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you do it an odd number of times, you can do it endlessly. ;) (Though perhaps KZbin's AI will get tired of you doing so, and think you are a badly written bot 😏)
@modularcarpet
@modularcarpet 3 жыл бұрын
We’ll just have to upvote your comment to compensate…
@10p6
@10p6 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Warning though, Isopropyl Alcohol can melt plastic, so I would not recommend using it to clean Optical lenses, or flex circuits.
@SayMcGillicuddy
@SayMcGillicuddy 3 жыл бұрын
12:05 was definitely the opportunity to break out the 1-Grit
@BavarianM
@BavarianM 3 жыл бұрын
Dankpods reference
@jamiecullen9075
@jamiecullen9075 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely was
@neatodd
@neatodd 3 жыл бұрын
I love videos, like this one, where the presenter really loves their subject and their enthusiasm shines through.
@ryanjosef
@ryanjosef 3 жыл бұрын
i was lucky enough a while ago to find a portable mini disc player/recorder.. it sounds good. also bought an optical cable for it to record . pretty decent. I do have to admit that I have a little envy for the stacks of awesomeness you have there !.
@murraykriner9425
@murraykriner9425 3 жыл бұрын
Recall seeing these for sale in many places outside the U.S., while traveling in the 90's. They were always rather costly, and many still are if you can find them on an auction site, usually missing the key ingredients necessary for them to work. That kind of explains why so many reached out to you for a proper trouble shot MD Player, since your doing all the work of getting them to operate for them. Great content. Thanks for sharing.
@cageycretins
@cageycretins 3 жыл бұрын
Try two wires/ leads and a 1.5v battery (or whatever they need) instead of the proprierty extra-battery-jungle-dongles?
@catnip420
@catnip420 3 жыл бұрын
Long MD videos have become a monthly thing for me now, either new or rewatched old, I hope there's more to come!
@enzoperruccio
@enzoperruccio 3 жыл бұрын
"Because these two pegs here where the power goes through, certain machines have them at different widths to one another" That's the most Sony thing ever
@jonny5alive123
@jonny5alive123 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if Sony want to know why they fell out of favour with a lot of people they only need to look at the nonsense they were playing with their power adapters and memory cards in the early 2000s.
@jonny5alive123
@jonny5alive123 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarquisDeSang It has nothing to do with the tolerances, Sony of that era would just make random changes to power adapters between device revisions for no reason.
@smorris12
@smorris12 3 жыл бұрын
I've never been impressed with Sony stuff. And endless proprietary connectors, batteries and file formats just make it look even less appealing
@awo1fman
@awo1fman 3 жыл бұрын
@@smorris12 Sony was awesome bang for the buck in the late 1970s through the 1980s. In spite of Beta/max... But their success really started going to their heads and in the 1990s onward they not only got too expensive, they went crazy with proprietary everything. Unfortunately, that seems to be the rule. Every company that starts out with great products at reasonable prices seems to sooner rather than later get cocky and start doing everything wrong.
@smorris12
@smorris12 3 жыл бұрын
@@awo1fman They get carried away with their own hype I suppose. I had a friend who spent a fortune on high end Sony stuff in the 90s and the reliability was appalling.
@sumplais
@sumplais 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up a minidisc player at a thrift store and before I could do much with it, someone stole it (and the rest of my work bag). Much more recently I found a Sony MZ-NH1 and with its lil docking station at a goodwill, and because it didn't have a power cord it was very cheap. Thanks to your video I just learned it does Hi-MD, came with a 1gig disc and has a LIP-4WM battery (a variation on the gum stick battery). I thought it had a built in battery till now. That is quite the collection you have. I never realized how many different companies and models of portable minidisc players there were. Good luck on the dead ones if you keep working on them, and congrats on the working ones.
@AndrewMione
@AndrewMione 3 жыл бұрын
These videos always make me nostalgic for my old minidisc player and making mixes.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I had a fancy-pants MD deck with keyboard for titling.
@GldRush98
@GldRush98 3 жыл бұрын
Right? I wonder what happened to mine every time I see one of these videos. My basement flooded probably a decade or so back and we just tossed everything that got wet... I fear my Sony MD was in the lot of stuff that got soaked :(
@alanfischer1948
@alanfischer1948 3 жыл бұрын
Because of your video, I went to check out all the MD portables I have. I have gotten 20 over the years 18 regular recorder/players, and 2 HiMD Sonys. All but 1 were Sony mopdels. After checking all of them (and thank you for the lemon juice to clean corroded battery contact idea), I have 15 that work with the AC adapter (I didn't check with a battery except for the one non Sony model which also worked) 3 that tried to read but couldn't, and 2 that I was unable to open at all. Thanks again for the video!!
@burntalive
@burntalive 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad that the orange camo one is dead. That one was my pick of the lot :(
@Caviarhound
@Caviarhound 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite formats of all time. Bang up video!
@darrenharman3362
@darrenharman3362 3 жыл бұрын
If I had the space and the knowledge (and the money) to do what Techmoan does, I’d be a very happy man.
@hawkshaw2
@hawkshaw2 6 ай бұрын
Your channel is a blessing. It's informative and helps me avoid buying junk just because I think I can fix it. Thank you!
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI 3 жыл бұрын
I know with larger optical drives, there are adjustment pots for the lasers to compensate power/focus. I wonder if MD's also have these?
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, to squeeze more life out of the laser, maybe not all but a lot, even portables, in service mode there is a setting which can turn the laser up, of course turning the laser up will help it read discs but it will also burn the laser out faster, still it will get you a bit more life out of the machine without having to cannibalise another to get a replacement laser, which is probably just as worn out!
@BenHelweg
@BenHelweg 3 жыл бұрын
Good riddance to these things.
@macsound
@macsound 3 жыл бұрын
It would be an interesting teardown to see if Mat can show how the internals work and even if there was a camera lens to show if the laser was turning on at all
@berkkarsi
@berkkarsi 3 жыл бұрын
This man now has the biggest Minidisc collection in the UK.
@DaveVelociraptor
@DaveVelociraptor 3 жыл бұрын
FWIW I'm more interested in this video than the original one, because it should bring some closure to it.
@gerrywarwick8477
@gerrywarwick8477 3 жыл бұрын
Your Vidz are so refreshing and fun. Please never stop!! MD was my favorite format ever!! I get it....we can get all songs now...but ....back in the day you'd had to choose!!!
@BigKelvPark
@BigKelvPark 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, the Sony at 8:37 may not like that battery (I used the same fleabay specials). One of mine (I can't remember which one) did the same. Furthermore, I can't remember where I read it but I had to drill a dimple in the base of the battery for it to work without issue. I think there is a very crude but descrete microswitch on the battery flap. I've moved house twice since I last saw any of my portables and I still have several boxes to unpack.
@BigKelvPark
@BigKelvPark 3 жыл бұрын
Now I've finished the video, it's good to see you got it working. I really need to find my missing portables.
@Adam-wl8wn
@Adam-wl8wn 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of those discs with a brush on for CD players many years ago, it worked a treat.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Some liquid de-scalers contain citric acid at a higher concentration than lemon juice.
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions 3 жыл бұрын
The lemon juice contains sugar, you can just buy pure citric acid. Vinegar essence works as well.
@randomnickify
@randomnickify 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but most of us already has lemon juice in our homes, so him suggesting it has more sense.
@raythackston1960
@raythackston1960 3 жыл бұрын
So 50% of them work just fine. 10% work with some outside help. Not bad for a auction buy of this kind. I bought a bunch of electric train stuff and all but 2 pieces did not work nor were they repairable. A fine haul Techmoan.
@lumsdot
@lumsdot 3 жыл бұрын
for the ones missing battery adapters, just push some powered wires against the contacts to see if they work
@MnACreations
@MnACreations 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to get a few of them working. Thank you for sharing! It was neat to see all the different styles there were..
@SplicesAndCelluloid
@SplicesAndCelluloid 3 жыл бұрын
20:41 It seems like the DAC is broken, I'd be interested to see if the digital out still works though.
@highroyds
@highroyds 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I’ve still got my Sony minidisc man that I bought from new when it was launched and still works 😊
@normahS
@normahS 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I worked in a retail store from 95 to 2000 and we had quite a few of these. Working there, i bought 3-4 of them myself and i remember especially the large blue one on the bottom row in your first lineup. Looks like it's called MZ-R70 or something? I can't make it out. Good times this.
@jaimemcnulty
@jaimemcnulty 3 жыл бұрын
one of the purest hobbyist channels on youtube. thank you for your vids.
@boredfartless4221
@boredfartless4221 3 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to wet the brush on that "Home made" cleaner with alcohol .
@jeroenk3570
@jeroenk3570 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, now you can store all your MD's in their own player 😁
@Five-O_Reviews
@Five-O_Reviews 3 жыл бұрын
Call me a fruitcake but I absolutely love these used MD review videos! Please buy more!
@DaedalusYoung
@DaedalusYoung 3 жыл бұрын
We used MD extensively when I worked for a local radio station. They were great machines, but often failed after a good amount of usage. I'd try everything, clean the laser, check the motor was spinning, and it all seemed to work fine, but they just wouldn't read a disc. I never thought it could just be the laser itself that'd died, but it makes sense now you mentioned it. Not that I would've been able to replace that in those days though. It's one reason why I stopped using MiniDisc, and quite possibly why many others stopped using it as well, machines that were too unstable, and could actually corrupt discs.
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