Techniques for Machining Straight Deep Holes -- SHOP GEM --

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Joe Pie

Joe Pie

4 жыл бұрын

This video shares some solid techniques that will allow you to drill straighter deeper holes on the lathe and do it with less effort. I'll introduce you to what a diamond pin is, and show you why it works. This one is long, but well worth a look. Check This One Out !!
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@oneshot700
@oneshot700 3 жыл бұрын
please don't teach this for a living ugh.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone care to educate this guy? I'll pin the comment.
@oneshot700
@oneshot700 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Just drop the first few minutes next time super scholar. Thanks
@oneshot700
@oneshot700 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Meaning if I want to take a nap. No doubt you have good info in there just started out weird is all. If you are insulted then I'm sorry.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 3 жыл бұрын
oneshot had one too many shots. whoa dude, shut up already. Easy solution for you... don’t watch anymore. Thank you Joe for sharing your genius and your expertise.
@Jake-zc3fk
@Jake-zc3fk 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love Joe's videos!!
@petera7403
@petera7403 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe, I have run my own shop for 20 plus years. I'm writing to tell you how much I admire the care you put into your videos, and the clarity with which you present your ideas and concepts. There are many people out there who will benefit from your efforts. Keep it up! Thanks.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope so. Thanks.
@whatcher8151
@whatcher8151 2 жыл бұрын
He got a haircut and shaved too.
@micjr21
@micjr21 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the square hole thing, but everything else was blowing my mind. The quick retract of the drill by using the carriage and tail stock was exceptional. Love it
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dand6144
@dand6144 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, again a great lesson. And allow me this comment just because you have mentioned that you don't want this video to be boring: actually, beyond the importance of seeing the real details, I very much appreciate to see that some things simply take their time and that therefore I don't need to feel like I'm veeery sloooow when doing similar stuff. In fact, most of the time youtube folks show this kind of "boring" footage in quick motion only and basically reduce everything to a nice, shiny chipmaking show. Instead, not only you give us an idea on how long such a job can / must take (even when done by a seasoned Pro) but you also make very good use of the "boring" parts and give us extremely precious "bonus" advice while doing so. Thanks again for this and ... congrats for the 100K! Dan
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan.
@genecarden780
@genecarden780 3 жыл бұрын
Joe I’m one of those guys that will forget everything you tell me unless I know “why”. Your explanations and theory at the “board” are very helpful to me..
@billythebake
@billythebake 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, wanna' thank ya' for taking the time to post this up. For the six guys who give this video a 'thumbs down'... I'm guessing one or two may have been by accident; the rest were probably simply to keep machining videos from showing up in their KZbin feed Because, the value of the content here is top notch. When you figure that shop time - any shop with trained personnel and decent equipment, anywhere in the US in 2020 - is damn hard to come by at $100/ hr, and that's based on the average guy in the average shop... not the highly experienced guy in the shop who can do the troubleshooting and tricky stuff... I've sat through a lot of lessons in the years that put a hell of a lot less value into a whole lot more time
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. These do take some effort to deliver.
@brianwarburton4482
@brianwarburton4482 4 жыл бұрын
That was one of the most useful engineering videos I have see. Thanks for taking the time to do this. A lot of people are benefiting from your efforts.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@testdevice989
@testdevice989 3 жыл бұрын
Right on Joe as always! Having worked in the automotive industry for many years, drills got the metal out, boring bars positioned the hole, and reamers gave you diameter and finish. Many people always wanted to skip a pass or two, with little success. When holes had to be deep, straight, and with a finish, gun drills were used, like on automatic transmission valve bodies. Gundrill geometry is very unique and contains parts of the three tools above, in one tool, but is not for the average machine shop. Gundrills require a hardened drill bushing to start the hole, high pressure coolant (~1000psi) to move the foil-like (
@marcmckenzie5110
@marcmckenzie5110 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, this is one of the most useful segments you’ve done yet! I ate it up. Your years of experience show in the best of ways. Godspeed.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I read your bio. God bless you for your strength and resolve. Stay well and enjoy every day.
@johnchamberlain5435
@johnchamberlain5435 Жыл бұрын
Joe, this had me glued to the chair. 45 minutes went by like it was 10 or less. I was just recently (like last night) wondering about "rifle drills" and such to get a good straight hole. Thanks!!
@randymiller1881
@randymiller1881 2 жыл бұрын
Good content. I worked PT as a Tool & Die machinist (apprentice) while studying engineering. Appreciative of the patience & knowledge my mentors shared with me. With 40 years of Mfg / Construction experience behind me, it's great to see other pass-along great detailed work instructions such as this KZbin video. Well done sir !!
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think its important to pass along good advice.
@simpleman283
@simpleman283 3 жыл бұрын
I almost can't wait till I get my first lathe to see how much I have learned from you, I definitely don't have as much nervousness about it as I had when I started watching machine shop videos on youtube. I think you have the best channel for learning, Thank you so much Joe. 3 days late but I hope you had a Happy Birthday.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Actual date is the 19th. Thanks for the wish.
@markjackson5645
@markjackson5645 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort. I'm here to learn machining from a true Master. I don't care if you call that guy a morphodite, troglodyte, hermaphrodite, transvestite, or some other word I can't spel. Joe you communicate wonderfully, I learn a lot from you. Thank you
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, yea, verily!
@robconcep644
@robconcep644 Жыл бұрын
You are an excellent teacher. This lesson is among your best. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us.
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@linzenmeyer
@linzenmeyer 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but I'm JUST getting into lathe work and this video REALLY cleared up what can go wrong if I only use a drill bit (What I thought was the process) and how to drill all the way through, correctly, and keep it center. Thanks Joe, your "Class room" style videos really help me.
@andersgrassman6583
@andersgrassman6583 8 ай бұрын
Very helpful! Much food for thought. I am a beginner, but I have sort of used some of these ideas to some extent, but your video ties the different ideas together in a more coherent way. Thank you!😃
@davidmeyer3318
@davidmeyer3318 3 жыл бұрын
Wanted to add that my father (now 88) taught me that carriage bump technique when I was 10 years old, and I've used it all my life. What's new to me is the virtual creation of a precision, concentric guide bushing with the center drill, drill, bore, ream sequence you detailed here... fantastic! BTW, I used Anchor Lube years ago... a bottle was given to me by a sales guy for lubing rubber that was to be die-cut. It worked great for that, but I never knew it could be used as a cutting fluid...gotta go find some!
@cchuckfm
@cchuckfm 4 жыл бұрын
The information of "carriage bumping" is pure genius! I drill a lot of holes on the lathe, this will save me a TON of time! Much Appreciated!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@jcs6347
@jcs6347 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, I learned a lot from this video, and the demo on how to bump the carriage was worth the price of admission, thank you!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@grayskwerl4973
@grayskwerl4973 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video from Joe Pie... Good info and well presented. Very useful. Thanks.
@patrickmoore5508
@patrickmoore5508 3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson Joe ! From a s/retired design engineer and former toolmaker. It just came to me that another great way to explain the deep hole drifting (to those who may not easily grasp) is how the oil and gas industry drill holes miles deep and at all sorts of angles into the ground and ocen beds(maybe?) Enjoy all of your tips and all the youtubers crafts people.
@bobtherat99
@bobtherat99 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have had so many failures trying this. I especially appreciate the 'chalk talk'. I like knowing why things happen as well as how to fix it.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. It helps the practical really sink in for me.
@andrewdouglas5939
@andrewdouglas5939 2 жыл бұрын
After failing twice using conventional methods , tried this out and it worked a treat , thanks for sharing Joe !
@llewellynquay9463
@llewellynquay9463 4 жыл бұрын
When I was in school I worked weekends and summers for a Master Tool & Die maker (friend of my father), and this was in the Mid-Late '70's. SO Much of what you cover reminds of "knowledge" I'd forgotten! Thanks for putting in the time and effort to share all the things that aren't in "The Machiney's Handbook" or anywhere else! I put in a good amount of hours on a Bridgeport, a Hardinge, and a big gap bed Graziano. Back then CNC was in it's infancy, so I never learned any basic programming, But I still get people who found out from 'This or That guy" that I have a tooled shop in my Garage--(although I've never "worked" as a machinist)...And it's nice to be able to find not only things I've forgotten, but SO much more! Very Generous of you to share--Huge Thanks!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment. thank you. I'm glad to be able to do this.
@Blackmage50
@Blackmage50 4 жыл бұрын
The information you give away for free is appreciated! Thanks Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Pass it on.
@brucematthews6417
@brucematthews6417 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't just solid gold. This is solid platinum knowledge. For such a simple thing you've provided us with so many hints and things to think about. A total winner of a video. Thanks so much for sharing your years of experience both in this and all your other videos. It really helps us hobbyists.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've wanted to do this video for a long time. Glad you liked it.
@rogueart7706
@rogueart7706 4 жыл бұрын
Joe I have been using your hole techniques now since this video came out, this stuff works great. No more wandering weeble worble lost target. I've changed my drill press operations too based on this lesson. Thanks from North Carolina. PS...I'm watching it again to see what I missed.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 3 жыл бұрын
Rogue makes a great point. Joe Pi’s YT’s are so densely packed with content you don’t know what you missed until you watch a second or third time.
@garthbutton699
@garthbutton699 4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of experience that comes from years of dealing with daily issues and being successful.I really like the way you explain yourself😁
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I used to write technical manuals so I try to be aware of every important detail.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
Priceless insights as always Joe, thank you for the knowledge sir..
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by Del. Stay well.
@jerrybohn4848
@jerrybohn4848 4 ай бұрын
Always good, thanks. It is always good to hear and see someone from home. I lived in Austin 30 years then moved just outside to Pflugerville for about 20 years and how near Tulsa Ok.
@robingibson7503
@robingibson7503 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i had known this 40 years ago!!!!!! But never too late!!! thanks so much!!!!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@TheTsunamijuan
@TheTsunamijuan 4 жыл бұрын
Great subject for a video. Couldn't be more relevant to whats currently on my mind as I make shop furniture and safety equipment. As I have finally obtained a lathe and a small CNC mill to start learning with. Once again thanks for Sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to do it. Thanks for being a subscriber. I wish everyone that commented was.
@JohnSchirra
@JohnSchirra 3 жыл бұрын
Just did this for a 3.8" deep 1/8" diameter hole and it worked flawlessly. Thanks Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trust.
@andrewthick185
@andrewthick185 Жыл бұрын
Dear Joe, A pleasure to watch you at work. Just brilliant. God Bless.
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, lesson, and tips Joe, thank you!
@bruceanderson9461
@bruceanderson9461 4 жыл бұрын
Will definitely use the carriage stop method in the future. I have always hated the dialing in and out when drilling deeper holes. Another great shop tip and video!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
You will like it. SOOOOO much faster.
@jameslezak7882
@jameslezak7882 Жыл бұрын
Super stuff, Joe! I wish I'd seen this 2 years ago! Better late than never! Been doing the tailstock gem since I was a kid, but the beginning tutorial was the dope! Thanks for your time and sharing! You've got an old dog learning new tricks! 👍😎✌️
@rtkville
@rtkville 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, I learned alot. Thanks
@lawrencesciortino9721
@lawrencesciortino9721 4 жыл бұрын
An excellent tutorial, you've taught me the importance of he bored pilot step - my sincere thanks.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Dagonius.
@Dagonius. 3 жыл бұрын
I really like people, who know what they're doing. I'm a precision mechanic myself. Best job in the world. Gives me smiles every day! Watching good machining videos never gets boring. Joe I would have watched you finish that hole in real time n all. Caus I get it! Thanks!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@mackellyman5642
@mackellyman5642 5 ай бұрын
So many subtle techniques were shared. Thanks for taking the time to share.
@joepie221
@joepie221 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@frankdahorta6735
@frankdahorta6735 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, it is much appreciated
@paultrgnp
@paultrgnp 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Joe. Once again I learned something that I didn't even know that I didn't know! 👍😁
@garyhardman8369
@garyhardman8369 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Joe. I always used to blame my knackered 1950's lathe for not being able to drill straight holes. Your very clear presentation explains exactly where I have been going wrong.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Best of luck moving forward.
@dolata000
@dolata000 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about fortuitous. Normally I don't drill long holes down the axis of parts, but I had to do it today so I could repair my tractor rather than wait for an ordered part. I made two 1/2" dia, 3" long holes that met in the center ... I didn't try gauge pins, but I could barely detect a little ridge where they met. Also I saved a lot of time with the "move the whole tailstock" idea. Thanks again.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Its a good technique to remember.
@jimbeaver3426
@jimbeaver3426 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb. Thanks for taking the time to make this outstanding video. You never cease to amaze!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@fredgenius
@fredgenius 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best machining advice I've ever seen! Thanks Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. It works.
@Bristoll170
@Bristoll170 4 жыл бұрын
I have yet to buy my first hobby lathe for my newly developing interest in metal working. Approaching retirement from the electrical industry, you and other KZbin creators in this field have made it interesting and educational, but more importantly understandable for the newcomers. Thanks for the great content. Keep up the amazing work for us still at the start line. Cheers Pete' from New Zealand.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I hope my material give you something to remember and improve on. Good luck.
@dr7615
@dr7615 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demonstration. Great advice. Never thought that the starting hole using a boring tool would hinder bit wandering. I'm a big fan of using the center drill due to the short shank and the rigidity it benefits from.
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe. Always a few gems in each clip. I already (probably as a teenager) came up with using the carriage as a depth reference, but your later tip on a great way of quickly re-establishing the drilling depth after changing to a longer drill, by delaying locking the tailstock to the bed, I do now recall (thanks to you!) I used to do when I had smaller lathes, but I need to try on the big machines I now generally run. It's not enough to come up with these things intuitively, a real teacher will take careful note of such tricks in order to remember AND refine them, and even more importantly, to pass them on. "Paying it forward" is what got us to the top of the food chain, and you are a master of the art! Thanks again. You really are a treasure to this community of interest, and your generosity is truly admirable. PS: On my biggest lathe, your reminder might just give me the impetus I need to add air injection to make the tailstock move more easily. It's not huge, as 5MT tailstocks go, and does not have a gearbox, but it's a potential twisting strain on the back if I was to do a really deep hole. For instance, I have a 65mm diameter spade drill I made the 5MT holder and shank for which is 700mm long. Last time I used it, it took several hours to take to full depth! (I don't have high pressure coolant, just high volume flood, and of course there is no pilot hole, so I was clearing it every few mm). I don't have rapid on the carriage, either, otherwise it would be a no-brainer to use IT to push the tailstock back each time, once the depth started to amount to something. I would lash the tailstock to the carriage with cord, and if I did this, I could use a magnet under the front shear of the bed as an automatic moving depth indicator for stopping the forward motion of the carriage, similar to your original tip, to avoid headbutting the spade bit into the hole and risking making an indent to propagate chatter, which of course is the sworn enemy of spade drills. I use Allied bits, and I stick with HSS for durability and because they tolerate things like no high pressure coolant and (intermittent) chatter much better than carbide, and I highly recommend them for deep holes in these larger sizes.
@captcarlos
@captcarlos 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Gottenhimfella, If you are interested in 'Deep Hole and Deeeeeep Trapanning' have a look at "David Wilks" you tube channel. That will blow your mind. Just a suggestion.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment. Thanks for taking the time.
@victorreppeto7050
@victorreppeto7050 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a detailed video on deep drilling for a very long time. Thank you so much.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tapp1t
@tapp1t 3 жыл бұрын
A masterclass in efficiency, economy and patience. And how much easier it is with well maintained and understood machinery.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
This works very well, just keep the oil under the tailstock and it glides like air.
@bryans5150
@bryans5150 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great informative class Joe. It's greatly appreciated. The knowledge you share with us is priceless.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather share it, than be buried with it. Thanks for watching.
@markrosa5575
@markrosa5575 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction, Sir. Always a pleasure to learn from you.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad to help.
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips Joe. Thanks
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын
Great instructional video Joe. Thanks for sharing.
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@836dmar
@836dmar 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t remember the project just a few months ago but had a through hole come out way off center. Got it the second time by slowing down and changing drills but this would have ensured it. Great tip I’ll start using!
@pickwizard-aka-Stevie
@pickwizard-aka-Stevie 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to film this Joe, was great to watch and a fantastic technique to have
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@dimtt2
@dimtt2 4 жыл бұрын
Double o Joe (00Jπ) hit's the mark once again!!! Brilliant marksmanship Joe, the drill math was a serious eye opener. Keep the teaching going, you're the best!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@bo5600
@bo5600 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. I've a 'back yard' business making a product involving a part with a 5" deep 9mm hole which has to be dead nuts. So much of this is going to save so much frustration & alcohol abuse...
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Save the alcohol abuse for the weekends.
@Patrick_Garrett
@Patrick_Garrett Жыл бұрын
Great Video! As far as drilling tools are concerned you will get better tolerances from a drill with a less aggressive helical angle. The reason for this has to do with the center of the drill and the amount of material left in it to give rigidity. More twist= Less rigidity. there will always have to be a balance between rigidity and chip evacuation. Without TSC in a machine you will never be able to avoid that dilemma. Haas and Mitsubishi have great videos regarding this exact principle, plus the add benefits of Drill Coatings, and the roles that they play in drill selection for any given material to help with tolerances and chip evacuation. Also worth noting: tool tolerances are horrible (relatively speaking) if you can cut parts, you can cut tools. if you want to change the relief angle or distance on a drill, a tool cutter or tool grinder will give you so much more bang for your buck in the shop. DIY works every time for the trained professional.
@5tr41ghtGuy
@5tr41ghtGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe - I picked up several good tips! I can't think of a better way than your videos to disseminate the considerable experience you've accumulated to the rest of the world (literally). Thanks to your videos as well as others on KZbin, I have been able to learn machining well enough to hit the numbers needed to implement creations and repairs with good success :-)
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the whole idea behind this channel. Thank you for the comment.. I'm glad my material helps.
@davidmeyer3318
@davidmeyer3318 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Joe, thanks so much for what you do!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@couldbanyone9318
@couldbanyone9318 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Joe, as always a rippa vid. thanks. The information you share is great and muchly appreciated. I think the reason your vids are so well-liked is that you don't waffle on AND manage to explain all the factors relating to the job at hand. Keep it up. Appreciate the Aussie flag on your whiteboard :)
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Given to me by an Aussie.
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is a gold mine Joe! 👍🇺🇸
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@salahzenieh2515
@salahzenieh2515 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best I've seen on this topic. Thanks for sharing your life-long experience with us. I am trying to drill 8.5" 3/4" C360 brass round bar for an oil manifold. I will see if I can do it with the tips you have offered here.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
This should certainly help. Good luck.
@colinhead2757
@colinhead2757 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, for sharing your knowledge. Western Australia.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe! It took me a paying attention to the way you allowed the tailstock to kick out to avoid the drill grabbing. I'd love to see how to do this on the mill. Have a great weekend!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
basically the same, just plunge an end mill instead of boring it, and feed down by advancing the quill nut a little at a time.
@MalJ-eb7nv
@MalJ-eb7nv 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Joe. Learned something from you again. Always great videos with good camera work. Mal
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mal. I'm evolving. Got a new Hero 7 witha lot of good features I plan to begin using. It should show.
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 Жыл бұрын
impressive result and nice theory lesson.. enjoyed it, thanks for sharing. 👍
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Dubbelehalvezool
@Dubbelehalvezool 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informational video. So much useful info here
@bilbo_gamers6417
@bilbo_gamers6417 Жыл бұрын
lol i use a mini lathe and if i ever need something to be really straight, i just get out my toolpost grinder and my diamond bits. it'll go straight eventually... excellent video! so scientific, and a great resource for learning about what's actually going on behind the curtain.
@davidsomerville7868
@davidsomerville7868 2 жыл бұрын
Just did this procedure 1/8" hole, 4" deep in P20 all from one end because I wanted to have the confidence in the process when I can't do from both ends in the future. I had to skip the boring bar step because I didn't have one that small. When I got done I flipped it and chamfered the exit. Hole was dead on. Thanks.
@mattholden5
@mattholden5 Жыл бұрын
I went +.006 over at the top of the hole and +.002 at the bottom just this week I expected +.002 top and +.000 at the bottom. I didn't account concentricity of the drill grind or leave room for finish boring. Thanks Joe.
@robertlewis4666
@robertlewis4666 4 жыл бұрын
As always, a first class presentation, many thanks Joe.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@johnjenkins2315
@johnjenkins2315 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe, keep it up.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@danemartin5288
@danemartin5288 4 жыл бұрын
What perfect timing that I found your channel. I'm drilling a number 38 sized hole in a 2.5 inch long .276 stock. Awesome stuff
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@dcsensui
@dcsensui 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice on drilling deep and straight. I was thinking of boring out a muzzle loading barrel to install a rifled insert (someone gave me the rifle with a pitted barrel) but was concerned about some of the problems that would be encountered. This demo was very enlightening. I'm re-thinking it now. Thanks!
@matspatpc
@matspatpc 4 жыл бұрын
I may never get that precision into my holes, but I will definitely use the "bump the tailstock" part. What I like most with all of your technique videos is that you don't just explain what works, but also the theory behind it. A lot of people will tell you a good way of doing something "because this is what I've always done, and it works", but not actually explain (they may not know, or can't describe it).
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I've always found the how makes more sense if you know the why.
@matspatpc
@matspatpc 4 жыл бұрын
​@@joepie221 Absolutely. You're doing it right, keep on doing it that way! It may not suit everyone, but I think that goes for absolutely every thing in the world, that's why there are many kinds of motorcycles, beers, machine shops, youtube channels, etc. We may not agree on the type of beer (If I'm in Austin, I'll get myself a Shiner Bock! Not what I drink in England, as it's almost impossible to get), but I agree with your style of youtube channel! :)
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, as always I learned something from your video, Thanks for sharing your Knowledge.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@greybeardza9197
@greybeardza9197 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe for the wonderfully clear explanation. I had to drill a 3mm hole through a 5mm rod 75mm long last weekend. Being really careful and working from both ends, I drilled undersized and reamed out to full size. Managed to get the hole straight enough to put a piece of 3mm drill rod through (which is what I required). But it was not as good as I would have liked. Particularly, I was surprised to find an oversize section at each opening. NOW at least I know why!!! This video is so full of tips and tricks I will have to watch it again. I had heard about sliding the tail stock before but not about using the cross slide as a stop! Tried it drilling a piece of brass and, of course, ran the drill bit into the bottom of the hole when sliding forward. As you said with horrible results. Too scared to try it again, I have spent many happy hours winding the tail stock back and forth ever since. My right arm thanks you...
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
When the hole to OD ratio is that close, be careful not to constrict the drill with too much part pressure. I've seen them lock up and snap off.
@greybeardza9197
@greybeardza9197 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 . Thanks for that tip Joe. I will keep it in mind.
@emiliog.4432
@emiliog.4432 2 жыл бұрын
@joe Pie You are actually a very good teacher. You make things clear and concise and easy to understand. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@ktaylor5784
@ktaylor5784 4 жыл бұрын
Good information on doing this Thanks. On the lube, I use it and love it. Purchase several small ones and now purchase the large ones to refill the small ones as needed.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I like it, but it will stain your tools and machine if you don't clean it up in a reasonable amount of time.
@raymercado3650
@raymercado3650 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 I learned something about precision drilling holes.
@radriand
@radriand 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, ---- I never thought about the helix angle affecting the depth needed before the body of the bit to start guiding the cut. Also, great tip about the diamond pin, " Constrain somthing once, and do it well" or they will fight each other.. Pin 1 = location, but not rotation..... Pin 2= rotation.. It totally makes sense. Also nice tip about knocking the corners off a square pin, That's a lot eaiser to make that the rhombus shaped pin. My lathe is worn badly and I have taken to putting the HSS paritng tool in the tool post when center drilling. I clamp it up higher than the Centerline ( I don't have to change the height screw) . By gently resting the end of the paritng tool ( below the cutting lip) against the straight side of the center drill body, I get much better results. It sort of takes any run out from the worn tail stock /chuck/center drill assembly. Be well..
@chuckphilpot7756
@chuckphilpot7756 4 жыл бұрын
Adrian Davidson Believe it or not, this is inherently more accurate. Kudos. Although by not cutting on center you are introducing some Ill effects unless your bearings are worn to the point that you are accounting for material climb.
@orangetruckman
@orangetruckman 2 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge is priceless sir!
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Toblies
@Toblies 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what I was looking for.... I'll be doing it on a CNC mill though, so less tedious manual in and out... but he process and tooling is right on. Thanks for posting.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Start tight, end right.
@adrianrevill7686
@adrianrevill7686 4 жыл бұрын
Excelent as always. Thanks Joe.
@carlhitchon1009
@carlhitchon1009 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Nor more useless cranking of the tail stock . Thank you.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
keep it oiled and the day goes well.
@thatsthewayitgoes9
@thatsthewayitgoes9 Жыл бұрын
Very good info. I was failing often, resizing existing worn hole in part, by simply thinking drill would ‘find’ appropriate center and happily follow center of worn existing hole. Hahahaaaa…. Thank you Joe. You not only explained what was happening in my fails, you gave the solution. Because of you educating me, I now chose methods with tooling I have or make, to not fail job. Thank you. My jobs are 13” - 28” deep. If people don’t believe a drill can walk a hole out the side in that distance, I will laugh at them! Yes it will . Excellent explanation of what was happening with my work!
@thatsthewayitgoes9
@thatsthewayitgoes9 Жыл бұрын
Using carriage to stop tail stock also excellent. I mount/ align tool on carriage instead of using tailstock. I lay a piece of metal on the ways to move carriage back to cutting position after retracting for chip clear out. When you’re doing 28” deep, mounting tooling on carriage is faster .
@thatsthewayitgoes9
@thatsthewayitgoes9 Жыл бұрын
Also, on existing long through holes, I make 30” tool to go through existing hole. The use carriage to pull cutting tool through existing hole. Then use tooling for final hole.
@johnm840
@johnm840 2 жыл бұрын
Popped up on watch list, glad it did. The carriage stop, I need to use that more often.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
This works well, just keep the ways oiled.
@christurley391
@christurley391 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Joe.
@joeenglish7403
@joeenglish7403 Ай бұрын
Been machining stuff for near 60 years and I learned a couple of things here. I watched because I'm about to build a 1:10 replica of the Constitutions 24 pound guns. Thanks Joe
@joepie221
@joepie221 Ай бұрын
You might enjoy this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpjSnWWimLNmba8
@williamjohnson2896
@williamjohnson2896 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your video work, great information with real instruction. I have been needing this, I need to make several straight line seater inserts for precision rifle reloading. The easy way is to use pieces of barrel from 4 to 5 inches long, but, don't always have that. With this method I can use raw stock with investment only in a reamer half to 1 thou over pilot diameter for each bullet diameter and I am good to go. Thanks again and keep them coming!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know you'll try it.
@roygogue7650
@roygogue7650 4 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen to date on drilling deep holes speakin my language big dog!
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great technique. You'll like it. be sure to clean the ways and get some oil under the tailstock for ease of movement.
@roygogue7650
@roygogue7650 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 actually applied it this weekend was drilling 10"+ holes in some 17-4 hh1150 pins that had a connecting holes for grease everyone was dead nut!
@arienugteren3797
@arienugteren3797 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, recently I make some small boring bar holders for my lathe and mill, but the HSS 1/4 rods were not smooth going all the way through. I redo them , and follow your procedure of drilling, boring, reaming, under my milling machine (hole needs to be eccentric), and now the HSS 1/4 diameter rods slide smoothly in over a distance of 60mm. Many thanks for the great explanation and video! It works excellent! And yes, be patient the entire procedure.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback.
@brianmoore1164
@brianmoore1164 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video today and it answers some questions I have had. Questions like, "how did I screw that up?" Love your channel.
@maysinagan558
@maysinagan558 2 жыл бұрын
Hi SirJoe! Teach us and make a living out of it, while we learn and make a living out of it. A thousand THANKS sir. I am a self taught air gunsmith, accuracy and precision is key, measurement are very exacting. I couldn't wrapt up a day without applying a learning from your video.
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear. Thanks for your trust.
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation on why the wander starts in the first place. Also really like the carriage bump trick, I can see that's a real time and effort saver. Another trick I found on the lathe if you don't have the stub length drills on hand is, even with a good pilot hole, stay out of the resonate frequency of the drill with the RPM. changing the RPM can have a surprising effect on the drills tendency to wander.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
I don't go by the book. I have general speeds, but the tool will let you know where its happy. Try the bump trick. You'll like it.
@robingibson7503
@robingibson7503 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 What's the bump trick?
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 4 жыл бұрын
Joe I couldn't find privet messaging so saying it here. I ended up using some of what you taught in this video in my latest video "Making a Custom Slitting Saw Arbor Pt2" @ 32:00 What you teach here is really helpful so I decided to mention in my video where I learned it from. Thanks for showing us all that you do. it is very much appreciated.
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 жыл бұрын
That arbor came out very well. Nice job.
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 4 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 Thank you!
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