Technologies to Help Humans Grow Up - Ken Wilber

[@aichi337]

I wonder what Ken thinks about neurofeedback products like muse S or dreem 2, did he try some of them? Does he recommend a particular one? Or does it actually miss the point?

[@bryanmilne]

"If you wake up nazi's, they're still nazi's" Eureka moment! Explains so much! Thank You - Wake up, Grow Up, Clean Up It's really clicking with me now and making a lot of sense and I get it!!

[@Octavus5]

In some respects, Wilber banalizes "waking up". If one wakes up as a Nazi, you _may_ still be a Nazi, but you should also be a different kind of Nazi. And no buddhist tradition would recognize the "waking up" of the nutty brother of Ram Dass.

[@spookman123456]

I don't see the point of switching the screen to showing al three of you during the video at the parts where only ken is speaking. I do understand that you want to show yourselves in this video, since this is your channel and so it makes sense to want to promote that to establish the story of the channel. But it feels of since both of you are just quite and nodding along. Nothing wrong with that, Wilber is brining up some valuable matter here, but in that case just let wilber be the main screen instead of switching to the three of you for a few minutes. Had to bring that up. But thanks a lot for the channel. It is very valuable to promote these people and ideas.

[@Paakku97]

I love it this way, makes it more dynamic and interesting to look at different faces and their reactions.

[@PakoBeats]

i would love to read more deeply about the grow up proces system ken wilber talks about

[@GioGhirardi]

I recently read "integral Meditation", it's a simple and practical book just 200 pages, and he talks about tecniques for waking up, growing up, showing up ecc...

[@dougcummings6000]

Context is everything...

[@kathleenbrady9916]

What's the music please?

[@Echavarriacoaching]

Isn't stage development not in the brain but in the entire self?

[@integralstanley]

Ah Yes. Being one with the universe as love/bliss/Ananda is a good days work. 🙂 Thinking this makes our ego really really special in a totally awesome way might indicate that we still have a little more growing up to do. 😠

[@JE-ee7cd]

So interesting...

[@maryevans6084]

Is this a recording? If so, how recent?

[@futurethinkers]

Yes, we recorded this conversation a couple months ago, and started releasing the videos last month.

[@maryevans6084]

So Ken has a list of potential collective thought leaders (his “students”) who can test “the overview effect” and hopefully provide transparent oversight to a lineage of intellectual integrators.

[@GnosisMan50]

I wish they had asked him if we need to grow up first before we can wake up

[@SeanAuraSeed]

What’s your answer to this question?

[@GnosisMan50]

@@SeanAuraSeed I'd say we need to grow up first.

[@Octavus5]

@@GnosisMan50 There's no limit to "growing up". And growing up is also predicated on circumstances. Slavery and misogyny? Sure, it doesn't make sense today, but it made perfect sense 500 years ago. Waking up is seeing the illusion for what it is. How do you want to play with this illusion? That's growing up (wisdom) and applying the compassion (love) founded on your waking up.

[@GnosisMan50]

@@Octavus5 Ok

[@claudelebel49]

Maybe it's in another video but he made it quite clear that you could wake up at any stage.,

[@tonypop1007]

Hello

[@katherinejoseph7133]

It is a rare fish that knows it is wet