Ted Nelson in Herzog's "Lo and Behold"

[@andybaldman]

I love how in the scene at 2:30, the entire background is moving, because the camera (and we) are on a houseboat. It gives an otherworldly quality to the scene.

[@MarkWilcoxNZ]

Watched this a few weeks ago - such a wonderful surprise when this scene came up.

[@UnDEADBishop138]

Its like a completely annotated internet. Thats genius.

[@ZedGames]

What a magnificent clip.

[@nybe]

These two geniuses get one another... such a great moment in the film, made me smile. :)

[@jademonass2954]

shoutout to nicky case for leading me to this video really good idea btw!

[@katejackson5479]

Ted, you are my spirit animal! I just watched this documentary last night and actually had to film this clip because I was so excited to share it with friends...and then I found it on here😂 I'm an electrical engineer currently working on my master's with an insatiable curiosity about interconnectivity and integration of different fields...I love your passion.

[@weavs90]

Been a hot minute but loved this documentary

[@vgbaike9803]

Thank you, Ted. Your words and Project Xanadu are very inspiring!

[@VousEtre]

interconnection from a hand in water. reminds me of Odo going home and blending into a sea of gold in Deep Space Nine....

[@klausoesch554]

Hi Ted, We hope You a happy Year from Finland. The concept of hypermedia is going strong here. University laboratories and digital business are developing well. We remember still Marlene and honor Your sorrow. However the life is going on and now our generation is next on turn. You are now on the history the father of hypermedia Best Regards Klasu Oesch

[@manipunation]

Its definitely nice (and totally appropriate) that Herzog included Ted Nelson in his film on the Internet. I wonder how many people realize that Ted Nelson's father was also a film (and television) director named Ralph Nelson, who can be seen directing the great Rod Serling Teleplay 'Requiem for a Heavyweight' here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWe0aIKNiMmGaqs), although its obviously a dramatic recreation. But really, Ted Nelson is such a genius that he deserves a full documentary just about his own ideas.

[@andybaldman]

If Ted's 2-way link ideas had been implemented, misinformation would be harder to manufacture and spread today (though it would still probably happen). But the web would be more holistic, and the interconnectedness of things would be more apparent in everyone's online experience.

[@Frisenette]

Beautifully filmed. Have to see that movie now. Thanks for making me aware of it. Normally I end up seeing all his work but this is unmissable. Ted, you should do a another movie. Maybe a documentary.

[@reettata]

This isn't a movie by Ted Nelson it was a scene from a documentary by Werner Herzog

[@aleksandartrifunovic4260]

What a lovely person. I hope my generation will continue to develop his great ideas.

[@TobiasDeml]

Great work Ted. Keep pressing on, your ideas are being heard and respected - and hopefully, soon adopted on a wider scale!

[@Californiansurfer]

I was at San Jose computer museum and learn about Ted Nelson and I bought some donuts and had security guard give me a tour of xerox park.

[@jjurksztowicz]

Don't worry Ted, you'll be remembered well by people who will eventually fulfill at least part of your vision. You did a great job being a gadfly, future generations will reap the reward.

[@CharlesSchneiderfilm]

This is beautiful to see, in every way.

[@jfreijser]

"... but Nelson's ideas are still dormant." Ah, I wondered if Herzog managed to find his way to you in the making of his latest film. I haven't managed to see the movie yet, but it's great to see you're there. Lovely insight into the essence of your thoughts, or rather, wisdom and knowledge as a child, that led to your concept of hypertext. I like Herzog's phrase "still dormant". It expresses a hope which I was beginning to lose fast in 2016. A strange and unsettling feeling. In an age that bleats about innovation, the internet of everything, artificial intelligence, the singularity moment, what unsettles me is that the computer community is now barely aware of Doug Engelbart's and Ted Nelson's ideas and thoughts, when I believe that they should be the starting point. In this clip, "writing as illicit compression of what should spread out", is a deep insight that explains the need for hypertextuality, allowing us to regain and maintain legitimacy.

[@katejackson5479]

Jan Freijser don't worry too much, there are still a few of us young ones who are very much intrigued by these "dormant" ideas.

[@jfreijser]

Dear Kate, that is very good to hear, indeed! You should all unite and start a movement. Instead of drooling about the singularity moment, we should all go way back to when the future promised real innovation and augmentation. Then do a big reboot!

[@katejackson5479]

Jan Freijser I'm working on it! It's a slow process finding like minded people to bounce ideas around with. And, of course, most things are developed for profit rather than for knowledge's sake or scientific advancement, so you do what you can with the means you're given. I feel like there are still many areas that could use some integration of ideas from other fields. I don't know what or how, yet, but this is on my mind every second I'm learning something new.

[@jfreijser]

I'm impressed! You're hitting several nails on the head here. I've know about Ted Nelson (and Doug Engelbart and others) since 1987, but it's great to be able to get up close here. I love the short lecture series "Computers for Cynics". I wish you lots of success!

[@katejackson5479]

Jan Freijser Thanks! My master's is going to be basically half electrical half systems engineering with focus on machine learning for communications networks so I'm just now getting my feet wet and found Ted last night! I definitely plan on going through his series!

[@slackerengi2401]

I'm often called weird for having a view of reality as it is While I don't understand your view on the world, I know it to be true and misunderstood I'm grateful you upload videos so I can better see your perspective and your point of view on life From one smart guy mislabed "weirdo" to another Thankyou for making videos

[@generalfeldmarschall2246]

I came here through a link from the xanadu website...

[@sabrina-so4ut]

Everything you said makes sense to me!

[@reettata]

An icon and a role model

[@albrix5]

I didn't quite get the drive(or need) for a system like Xanadu until I watched this video. The interconnection bit made it click. Ted's quite a figure. I bet he'll have the last laugh.

[@ximono]

To paraphrase Alan Kay, "In the country of the blind, the one-eyed people run things, and the two-eyed people are labeled insane."

[@backyardmethlab2199]

I really hope you'll have the last laugh, Ted. Today's flood of disconnected incoherence leads to nothing but schizophrenia.

[@raginald7mars408]

Psychosis and PTSD - breeding new Messiahs as rescuers...

[@ayaygabriel]

So unbearably true. On one end of the extreme: skitzophrenic discord, noise and force fed news feed self refreshing infinitely, on the other end a chain made of blocks to track and bind us, tether us together

[@andybaldman]

Hear, hear. He'll get the laugh after he's gone, unfortunately. The man was just too far ahead of his time.

[@zants_]

I guess the vision has sort of been achieved, just not how he likely expected. How AI has gobbled up every bit of writing from the internet and organizes it in its black box, it finally allows for these connections out the other end, just not as elegantly.

[@computersagain]

What a badass!

[@eichhornchen8638]

where is that place at 0:05? I loved that view!

[@TobiasDeml]

epoch64 it looks like Berkeley.. either bay area or seattle?

[@eichhornchen8638]

Tobias Deml thank you so much!!!

[@egemensentin]

Ted Nelson lives on a houseboat in Sausalito, California.

[@courtneygaddison3632]

Xanadu

[@Vegedow]

This is so neuronal, cool