Teddy Boys In A London Club (1977)

teddy boys not happy with the punks,
but i just love the way they say that the punks look stupid lol, give us a break, as if they look the nuts lol.

[@FaerieCrone]

I agree. The Teds that I knew around this time just wanted to dance and go to the rockabilly shows. They didn't go out looking for a fight at all.

[@BradBrassman]

I remember the Punk/Ted thing very well in the late 70's as, being a Ted at the time, I was well aware of the notion that most Teds believed that the Punk thing was threatening their very existence, yet, they were in fact, no real threat, and paradoxically, it was the emerging sub-culture of Rockabilly with its Hep-Cat style that largely finished the Teds in the end, with only a few purists remaining.

[@wiggawithattitude]

theres still plenty left, but now everyone gets along. its harder to do the ted style now because its very ballsy.. out there. the rockabilly cat style is easier to pull off on a day to day basis

[@djgaryowens]

I hated punk rock but when I realised that people like the Damned and The Stranglers not only played but were real musicians who played very well indeed I did learn to like at least some of it. They said that they couldn't play just to get the publicity.

[@cooldaddy2877]

I was a Teddy Boy in the fifties and was appalled at how "punkish" the so called Teddy Boys in the seventies looked. We would never have left the house without a tie on. We never wore teeshirts with drapes, never had earrings, never had tattoos and never had long hair or mutton chops. The Teddy Boys of the seventies had become either scruffy or exaggerated Showaddywaddy types. A new generation of R'n'r fans grew up and didnt want to look stupid like those fake Teddy Boys and they turned to the American Hep Cat look. That is what almost killed the off the Teddy Boy. Thankfully a new generation called the Edwardian Teddy Boy Society, or something like that, is trying to recreate the original look.

[@motorvating]

Well actually teddy Boys are still going strong in the UK, and are as relevent as Punk rock is to music. I was a Ted in 76 -77 but only 16 years old at the time, so actually hung around with Punks, and our generation of Punks and Teds went onto produce Physcobilly. There really was not much trouble between the Punks and teds as a whole, it was another media hype like the Mods and Rockers.

[@michaelpearson1272]

I become a Teddy boy in 1972 when I was 12. I still wair my rocknroll style and I'm 63 so jail house John is not a Ted now he did porn not sure if he still does and I don't know who his stunt cock was but anyway he was saying he hated punks fair do but I had mates that where punks we got on great. The immature Ted's and punks went fighting I didn't have a problem with punks they did there thing I do mine I'm still doing it that's how good rocknroll is.

[@isleod]

The guy with the gene Vincent t shirt , was Eddie , twenty years later was a heavy metal DJ 😂

[@jamesdean1143]

OMG ! Rebel Eddie became a head-banger ?

[@isleod]

@@jamesdean1143 yep saw him in the Burnel arms east ham ,early nineties

[@TheHasselBoff]

I love punk music and rockabilly

[@davetomlinson33]

What a fantastic piece this is - when youth culture meant something

[@rollinrecordsuk]

Interesting watching the full film again on Prime the other night. Shot in 78 by a German crew who's footage of the Jam and Clash alone must have earn't them a fortune in licensing fees. Worth viewing for some of the lesser bands like the Killjoys with Kevin Rowland, and an indignant JJ Burnell on the staircase! As for the teds, well Stu (in glasses at the end) and Roy were top DJs of the time, along with Jailhouse John. Under the name 'Wild Wax Show' they had an ear for a hit and were responsible for spinning the hell out of Jungle Rock a good couple of years before it climbed the charts in 76. The start of all the trouble was the shop 'Sex'. It used to be 'Let It Rock', a shop catering for teds, run by MM and VW. The teds were really pissed off when the shop became totally punk, and they could no longer get their gear there. It was a hang out for them on a Saturday afternoon. All of a sudden the jukebox in the shop (full of stuff like Vince Taylor's "Brand New Caddy), was changed for 50 copies of Anarchy. No one quite knew what punk was then, but the teds used to still go into the shop to leer over Jordan who's polaroid pics were over the wall, and follow her down the street in her full rubber cat suit! In the space of a few months, any identity to 'Let It Rock' had gone apart from a few pairs of creepers in the shop, which the punks were now buying. This is where all the animosity started. MM and VW had been championing Teds and RNR since the early 70s. You only have to look at the film 'The London Rock N Roll' show, which is a documentary about the Wembley show in 72. MM and VW can be seen on their stall selling Jerry Lee T-shirts designed by VW, who has a really punk haircut for 1972! Teds in someways though have had a result, as all those drapes made by Vivien Westwood with the 'Let It Rock' label, are worth 50 times more than they paid for them! Strange and wonderful days, which will never repeat itself.

[@albion7000]

Hello, do you know the name of this film please?

[@koont666]

Spot on mate 🇬🇧👍

[@jake888999]

Well researched.that make a lot of sense

[@Zipgunn1]

Rockabilly might have originated in America, but it was soon forgotten there. The rockabilly movement started in the UK and has spread out from there reight across the world.

[@kingofpunk1977]

The teddy boy movement was massive but what happened in the end was the teds could not deny the energy that the best Punk bands were giving off & a lot of the tribal movements fused together & a band like Motörhead all could enjoy

[@OldAgeTeddyboy]

Your talking bollocks!!

[@rockabillystraycats6]

my dad is a teddy boy from 70's from england and i understand what your saying its all true and i wish them days would come back they would of been awsome to be in but my dad say's rock'n'roll will never die and its true theirs still punks teds and squears out their iam 14 and reliving the past and i could never be happier

[@Druschba]

@sergejisd The movies name is "Punk In London" it is from September 1977 directed by Wolfgang Büld.

[@nostalgia8384]

The whole teds/punks era was a grand old time. Both tribes should do what the mods & rockers did with their yearly reunion down at Brighton - all get together for old times sake. I suggest a huge teds & punks rally in Sloane Square and Kings Road where drapes and safety pins finally meet again after nearly 40 years. I mean we're all friends now ....... aren't we?

[@blaineca]

+Nost Algia It's only natural that a new tribe would have to fight for their place.... not that I'm a fan of violence at all.... but it seems natural that there would be clashes based on the different mind sets. Today, most punks are also huge fans of Gene Vincent, Wanda Jackson, and also the Mod stuff (Motown, Prince Buster) and the Skinhead Reggae. Well maybe not the new new punks, but my generation from the 80's did. These tribes all found a place and we are all better for it and it's a great thing to inherit IMHO.

[@GilbertSyndrome]

@@blaineca You also had bands like the Cramps who fused Punk and Rockabilly with Surf, R&B pure Rock and Roll, bridging those genres and subcultures together.

[@MrConorLumsden]

These men talking in the video doesn't seem to see the irony in the punks taking the drape jackets and changing the meaning of them was arguably more true to the original Ted spirit in terms of re-appropriation of a style. The drape jackets the Teds wore were designed for rich men about town. It's so strange that someone from a group like the teds, when pointing out what he dislikes about the punks, the first man says: "They just want to be different, they don't want to be like everyone else".

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Ironically, the guy in the beginning, Roy Williams, help start the psychobilly scene.

[@streetsoldier28]

What band is he in?

[@jamesdean1143]

@@streetsoldier28 No band, just a record owner, producer and promoter, as well as a DJ.

[@Druschba]

That's great! I saw it about 30 years ago on TV. And Rock'n'Roll and PunkRock are still around!

[@TheWhitehall]

1977 The year Elvis died.....but Rock"N"Roll like Elvis is here to stay"

[@KRISTJESSE]

In 76 I used to hang out with Ted's. In 77 I was apunk rocker. I used to wear Broffel Creepers, Jungle Greens, a Cool Leather Jacke, zipped T shirtt and any attachments that looked the part. I had a D. A peroxide blond. I guess the company I kept was OK, there were Teds, Skinheads, Rasta's, Mods and yea we all had rucs, but hey ho it was fun. When your a kid you do all kinds a shit and enjoy, then you grow up and laugh about it, lolol

[@DamnArms12345]

Hooray for synchronised dancing

[@28grey]

I missed this by a few years, but I was always a rockabilly rebel during the 80's & 90's, my first serious girlfriend was a punk rocker, some of my best mates were Teds. The early 80's press were full of bank holiday mayhem between skinheads, rockabillys, punks mods & rockers, and I'm sure new romatics were drafted in to add fuel to the fire...How much is actually true? Only the press can say.

[@davidharrison6615]

remember the teds in London when the punks where around . lots and lots of serious trouble . I was in year 4 with the royal navy . shore leave was a dangerous time back then .

[@sakurasanyamamba]

i need a teddy boys&girls come back!! ~♥

[@OldAgeTeddyboy]

We aint gone nowhere, we are still about..

[@YAHUAHsgotmysix]

As a punk at the time i remember this kind of thing very well. It was virtually country wide. The thing is,most teds by then were 30s/40s + and most punks just teens,so you had fighting between kids and old men! Quite surreal ! Lol

[@D.N..]

Who won most of the flights?

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Teds won most for sure.

[@YAHUAHsgotmysix]

@@shaunigothictv1003 Yes, that was normally the outcome. As an aside, I actually had two good mates in my town who were diehard Teds. In fact we had a lot in common.

[@SunnyStreak_]

Was it ever weird to find a punk or a ted in their early twenties back then? I know this one older british guy and I asked him if he remembered the mods and he said but he was 14 so he was young too be one. Weren't most of the people in those sorts of subcultures teenagers?

[@YAHUAHsgotmysix]

@@SunnyStreak_ There were punks and teds in their early twenties back in 77. A lot of teds had started in the late 1950's, and to the diehards it became a long time way of life. I'm 59 now, and was a punk from 77- 87, but I know of people who started when I did and are still living and looking the part. It becomes a way of life to some till they die. I had great fun, have got fond memories and am well glad I got to be part of it all.

[@rollerbop]

Thanks My Friend

[@blaineca]

This is incredible. Really filmed in the 70's? This an important film on subculture IMHO.

[@leeetchells7100]

Blaine Barber this was the late seventies. I was a young ted up north in Manchester. There were some rough guys back in those days.Some ended up in prison.

[@alistairfinlay2772]

Great documentary but I love punk & rock n roll equal, 🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙏

[@booldawg]

'They look like some kind of third sex' ! If only he knew what laid in store for the future!

[@keltyk]

@vrieskip - It goes full circle- We- the punks- mods- etc of then are middle aged now- When you're middle aged the young hate your effin' guts- and there's nothing they love more than to try to make everything worse when you just want to live your life- Survive long enough and you will see

[@Lytton333]

Wasn't John Lydon once photographed in a teddy-Boy suit?

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

It might have happened at the "Sex" Malcolm MacLaren store. Malcolm was a Teddy Boy revivalist in the early 70s and sold rock and roll and teddy boy clothes before starting to sell things more associated with punk rock like ripped shirts and BDSM things

[@shaunigothictv1003]

@@EclecticoIconoclasta Excellent points!

[@SuperRockin1]

............ WHAT A TUNE !!!

[@adrianbird3163]

v cool rode a t160 in 77 78 in town and went to the 9 good vid

[@paddy6062]

@sakurasanyamamba Its still here in England.. ;)

[@BobSeger1981]

what's this from?

[@drstevie]

Classic footage.

[@JohnSmith-ef5zx]

Third sex is right you've seen the future back in the 70s

[@djgaryowens]

It didn't take a lot to get the teds upset.

[@LowBudgetFilms12349]

Even though they're drunk it is so true what they say about punk rock songs some of them it is 50s covers

[@AltamontKiller]

and i thought the mods and rockers were real enemys

[@AngloSaxon1]

Listen The Rockabillies ruled in the 1980s

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Teddy boys, not rockabillies.

[@Sarrienne]

@@psychobillynumbnuts1 80s, not 60s.....!!

[@tinytimthumb]

punk bashing boogie by don e sibley and the dixie phoenix...............its available on line as i bought one from the 70's.

[@carolteddygirl]

dont know, but the band Furious now do a great version of it

[@leggettification]

wott`s up, were all grown now. Like the guy though. Me, David harris and Rauks was there. CHEERS!

[@karavolias91]

LONG LIVE THE TEDS!! cheers from greece

[@conorhealy5169]

"They are trying to put it across the country.....starting in Britain"! 1:54

[@Junkpunker21]

1:25. That guy had nothing strong enough to say since the first part.

[@DiRtYLaWs2007]

You don't really see a Teddy Boy scene today at all. I guess the guy was wrong on that point.

[@kevcaratacus9428]

Chocolabtastic Smith loadsa places if u know where to go!

[@OldAgeTeddyboy]

You need to go to spec savers..

[@paddy6062]

lol teds are still around.. You still have a choice where to go on a weekend and even week days .. not many punk clubs around (if any)

[@kidcalabria]

I always thought that Rock'n'Roll stood for progressive ideas (like when in the US it united blacks & whites when in the south there was still segregation & long before Martin Luther King) & a type of popular music that could be a real, relevant art-form. In the 50s it was greasers, teds, rockers, in the 60s beat, mods, hippies, in the '70s punks, etc.. it's all Rock'n'Roll. Didn't Sid Vicious do Eddie Cochran songs & The Ramones R&R? If Elvis had been 19 in 1977 he'd have been a punk rocker...

[@iainlindsay5687]

every teddy boy complaning about punks just like their dads did about them.

[@BreakfastTimeRecords]

What was the name of this documentary?

[@pjfrancomusic]

Punk in London

[@billiee835]

The George in hammersmith my baby thinks she's a train playing in back ground by a sleep at the wheel

[@kellyboyles4533]

this might sound like a dumb question, but did the teds and skins get along back in the day or did they fight eachother?

[@OldAgeTeddyboy]

Are you for real, it was us against the punks skinheads and to a lesser extent the mods, you want to see real hate, get a time machine back to the 70s...

[@YAHUAHsgotmysix]

@@OldAgeTeddyboy Your'e right. I witnessed some bad s**t at Southend , bank holiday 79.

[@stephenholloway2889]

Boneheads didn't like anyone who wasn't a bonehead.

[@paddy6062]

How would you know? Every punk we saw didnt stop running

[@paddy6062]

Bit of both.. but get along now :)

[@Drop_Of--Flame]

SHIT MAN..i think the dude that did most of talking first half..think he takin 2many of those purple hearts lol an hell they talk anout punks? what about them an there POT of BRILLO cream LOL them days were mad..I love it..Mods Rockers Teds Hippys punks..fucking amazing an made thing is i think they all had the same believes 2 a point..wen they weren't kicking shit ov eachother!.I woulda been a rocker i think/maby mod? defo not TED ..cool vid 333

[@rockabillystraycats6]

ya i did say that tedd boys came from england fair enuf rockabilly & rock'n'roll music came for america but the dress didnt it came from the edwardian days before ted's were even thought of the dran pipes and the drapes came from the edwardians then teds started wering it iam 14 and wish them days would come back

[@paddy6062]

@rockakitty1993 you wont get Psychobilly! played in the rocking clubs i know Kitty ;)

[@stevestheboy1]

did i see rebel eddy there somewhere yo ed how is ya mate long time no see

[@jamesdean1143]

Apparently, he became a heavy metal DJ and roadie for Bad News !

[@stevestheboy1]

@@jamesdean1143 really james i didnt know that he was brill dj and a big part of my youth especially at the lion n key in leytonstone

[@leeetchells609]

That guy with the glasses on that's supposed to be a Ted. Is it Nilsen the serial killer? 😆

[@Thompsdan]

Wow! If only there'd been a war on: them Teds wouldn't have had to give those punks a good hiding. That must be what wars are for.

[@finjay21fj]

It was weird - everyone wanted to be everyones enemy. I didnt understand tribal, I wear it to this day because it was the clothes, music, cars and not tribalism for me. When young they called me soft to hell with it, I wanted to enjoy not injure, to have a good time not an ambulance and thought everyone should have the same peace 9:-y

[@ascottishview694]

ah yes i had the record Punk Bashing Boogie by Don. E . Sibley back in 1980, in Edinburgh the Teds hated the punks and mods, but the teds changed into Rockabillies and then Hepcats and Rockers, by 82/83 it was gone. I still listen to the 50s music at 58, but have no pretensions of being 16 again, after all it is only music, back in the 70s/80s we had confederate flags every where, now we are no longer so naïve and know that it stands for racism, so lets enjoy the music but move on with the times

[@7bernie777]

Funny stuff

[@backthisway]

I was a 14 yr old teddy boy in 1977 .. I received 7 stitches in my head delivered by over 50 punk rockres in Sloane Square undergroud station .. i was with 3 other teds .. .. june 14 1977 .. any of you other 3 remember .. one of you got stabbed in thr stomach the other in the leg .. we were just out shopping !! Honest !!

[@arc6fire]

backthisway hey yes i remember, that stab to the leg, it was really painful, i can still feel the pain now. but fuck it we were teddy boys

[@stevestheboy1]

so is rock n roll

[@MrConorLumsden]

@Boogieboy138 I guess the differences are that punk is aggressive and and emo is kind of submissive. But I get what you mean.

[@johngilmore697]

Very intellectual.

[@written12]

You take no prisoners putting things as you do. But I tend to agree with you. Watching this now, myself a tender lad of 48, I can't help but thinking that so much of youth culture over the decades-all the factions, that is- has been so overblown. A big ugly parade of narcissists, self-righteous, and humorless adolescents.

[@GarageZan]

Greek punks salute you Oi to the teds!

[@Jonesy2Bad]

and he was was pretty drunk

[@identifiantidentifie397]

Clever?

[@samhain66]

How Funny, up where I lived,m The Teds, Rebels and Rockabillies relied on us Punks to give them a hand against the Bikers and Nazi Skins. They had some handy lads in their ranks but had been on the back foot for a while but as many of them were from our estate, it was only nature to back them against anyone else. The skins got it badly, very badly, the biker faired a bit better but they were dealing with hardcore fighters and sons of local villains.

[@emmaodell13]

@ZombieSockHop har har, you've gotta be joking!

[@markolietsa518]

Hello Emma,,,

[@stephanvenner2939]

They talk like old men. In the 50ties the Rockabillies where the first Punks.

[@finjay21fj]

The tribalism ruined it for me, I hate violence and am still a Ted at 57 9;o)

[@rumpraisin]

Nowadays, is he a policeman?

[@mandowarrior123]

Nothing like the identity people had back then even if they disliked each other. now all that's left is skinheads really. At least here. But some remain of all groups.

[@9graff9]

So what if they look different? To each there own. Up The Surf Punks!

[@9graff9]

Like I said to each their own.

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

***** nf skins, teddy boys? same folk really, nazirascists stuck in a past that didnt work evewn back then.... "rivers of blood"?

[@rockakitty1993]

ok this is an older vid from when punk was just starting out, these guys probably just thought punk was a fad like "emo" and all that trash and they were wrong and i must say teds and punks get along really well these days eg. Psychobilly!

[@Junkpunker21]

@cochranexyz There would be no 'posers' if there wasn't anything to pose about. These SUBCULTURES - they're the real deal. They're not called 'styles'.

[@kingofpunk1977]

Paddy you are in serious denial , Genuine Rock n Roll was about being a rebel , a

[@billiee835]

1982, skinheads took over that pub , gave has rockabillies ,a kicking one night ,we came back few weeks later , and wiped the floor with them ,prove me wrong,🤔

[@EzekielWhateley]

The first guy speaking is Roy Williams from Nervous Records and he and his label's later involvement with psychobilly shows that his attitude towards punk and its offshoots changed dramatically later. He's still at it today! Most of those other guys are probably fat(ter), bald, and sleeping on the couch now while the rest of us dance. Rock 'n' roll forever!!!

[@ReinaldoTeddy1953]

Ted´s Forever....

[@BradBrassman]

Isnt the big ted from 1.44 onward (on the right) Jimmy "Elvis" Smart? I am sure he made the front page of the Mirror in 77 fighting punks?

[@shaunigothictv1003]

Nowadays most whites kids in London speak English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect which is very different from the anglo saxon dialect of English which is spoken in this t.v programme. In the early 2000's, young white kids on council estates in London became JAMAICANISED. This is when they starting speaking with English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect. For example, Essex county is the only place in Britain where the cockney dialect/and or accent is still spoken. TO SUMMARISE: In the 1980's all the national British companies went through a process called national - PRIVATISATION - and then almost - SIMULTANEOUSLY - all the poor - NATIONAL - white kids endured a process called - JAMAICANISATION - which did indeed definitely - LEAD - to all poor - NATIONAL - white girls on council estates quickly - UNDERGO - a process called Jamaican extreme - INSEMINATION - and thus all the young - RESULTING - half cast babies initiated a full - NATIONAL - process called extreme - BASTARDISATION. Remember everyone, that the last point regarding bastardisation is entirely optional, and is not my view but instead is the view of white nationalists.

[@DubIsTheFoundation]

Blame Maggie 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾

[@kingofpunk1977]

I tell you what , I'll look out for some Teddy Boys.....whoops there's goes a flying saucer!!!

[@strangeperson700]

Gaza and Gully.

[@irishshako]

The Teds are the originals. I'm an 80s TED, ROCK'N ROLL rules..

[@OldAgeTeddyboy]

Im a 70s Ted and still wear my Drapes and creepers..

[@arlenburgin2392]

It's funny how punk took over America, but Teddy Boy culture took a back seat..

[@michaelpearson1272]

Rockabilly and rocknroll took the world by storm. Americans did not know what teddy boys where. There was no teddy boy in America but there was a lot of mean 50s gangs back in the day. Rocknroll and rockabilly still has a huge following bigger than punk.

[@paddy6062]

lol yeah ok :))

[@morgandude2]

Like other Dinosaurs, they died out.

[@backstreetboy1122]

Rockasillies

[@trumpton77]

the 70s great mems loved been a ted great gear o man neon yellow socks george cox creepers drain pipe jeans my big trumiph belt buckle and red drape and the big quiff and trips to southend long way to southend now from bangkok

[@EuGJaMMeR]

That Ted.. called Johnny Rotten and the Jam 'shit'.

[@Thompsdan]

'Some sort of third sex', you say. God forbid. If only we could all be proper men like these risible rock n' bollox throwbacks.

[@alcampbell7396]

I'm glad my parents emigrated - these people are dinosaurs - punk was great DKs fantastic - at the time.

[@philipbonner6486]

Big men lol

[@arty1986]

And listen to the new album of Crazy Cavan and the Rhythm Rockers, he plays sice '60 years, how many punks are still playng since '70 years? NOBODY, they are all dead or they are now searching in any way to live without work! look at your Johnny Rotten, is a looser!

[@slayerrules114]

The Teds didn't buy the drape jacket and creepers cuz they thot it looked cool. They originally bought that style of clothing because it made them look presentable even though it was cheap clothing at that time. They looked more rich than they were.

[@DamnArms12345]

Thank god for Carribean immigrants