Teen Killer Realizes Cops Found the Secret Recording

In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Cassandra Bjorge and Johnny Rider and analyzing it from an educational legal and psychological perspective.

[@nolagirl2458]

Parents, if you can’t handle your out of control kid, don’t send them to your elderly parents!! What makes you think they can control, the uncontrollable?! 🤯

[@divulgedspirit]

Mom was trash too

[@Prettykittychimi]

None of these people should have reproduced. At least Cassie stopped the cycle since she’ll be in prison forever.

[@xAngelxHazex]

NO LITERALLY WHY DO THEY THINK PUTTING CRIMINALS IN THE CARE OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE IS A GOOD IDEA LIKE I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THIS????

[@xAngelxHazex]

@@Prettykittychimiyou never know, women get pregnant by security guards in jail all the time. She could easily do the same and curse the human race yet again 😂

[@sandrashevel2137]

I agree

[@trashcanchic]

Hearing her describe how her grandma was scared and kept trying to play dead broke my heart. The whole retelling did. Despicable.

[@kimberlyrichardson5943]

Thanks for your comment, I just lost my grandparents, who raised me from age 13, earlier this year. They were my parents and best friends. I will be skipping this video now because I don't think I can hear that without picturing my grandma in that poor woman's place and can't mentally handle that.

[@ryantaylor4015]

​@@kimberlyrichardson5943so sorry for your loss, but glad the comments could ward you away from a potential trigger.

[@shaundavenport621]

Yes I've just got to that part.Horrific!

[@Erichmustaine88]

Absolutely terrifying, that people like this exist

[@capp11295]

@@kimberlyrichardson5943I know this might not sound right but knowing others are hurting and share in your pain just might help... Hang in the Kim ..I just lost my father last year and today's his birthday so I feel your loss...🙏

[@DK.Wicked420]

Mindy and Kevin are total badasses. To keep fighting after after bear mace to the face and a ballbat to the head and body, simply phenomenal.

[@Longshot3531]

Yo my jaw went threw the floor when they said her grandparents paid for her to go to china to compete in the martial arts tourney, WTF ARE SOME PEOPLE ON!!!

[@sherryblanton2029]

LOVE! They were on Love! They had Hope for her, not realizing the demon inside her.

[@Longshot3531]

@@sherryblanton2029 I hear ya but I ment the kids, they loved her that much and she still brutally killed them.....WTF!!

[@monicac2834]

Lots of people don't even teach their kids to say thank you 🤢 so I'm not surprised when things like respect (especially self-respect), appreciation, gratitude, and self-awareness go out the window. They have no problem teaching racism, tik tok, and Stanley's, though. It's an epidemic.

[@lythix8021]

wdym? is that a bad thing?

[@alpenschatz]

@@monicac2834 I was right with you up until the part about Stanleys. Their thermoses are excellent!

[@flowerpower8722]

Divorced and just out of jail at only 19? That's a train wreck of a life already.

[@romeeolivia]

lmaoooo that’s what i thought too like 😭😭😭

[@smartyjonez5470]

Liberals want to let her off with a warning

[@rchristi761]

​@@Anonymous-lq2bsthink you can work that out...

[@Anonymous-lq2bs]

@@rchristi761an answer would’ve been nice but oh well you’re useless 🤷

[@Anonymous-lq2bs]

@@rchristi761 The guy was smart and wanted a lawyer but the woman coughed up everything like all women who just yap on or are useless like you.

[@FiringSquad81]

Never understood why people send their kid they can't physically control to their Grandparents. When they no longer have strength.

[@triggabun]

Same as people who expect their parents to babysit their children. It's just cruel. They are tired. Let them visit or ask for it but don't expect them to be your permanent childcare. I would never even imagine doing that.

[@Snarl_Marx]

Two things: 1. Often times grandparents or other extended family will volunteer to care for these kids. Out of love and wanting to keep the family together. 2. CPS and other social services will push *hard* to keep kids out of the foster care system. They're not in the business of dragging children away from their families entirely unless absolutely necessary.

[@MasterofScrutiny]

Because the grandparents raised irresponsible children.

[@nonamex6536]

@@MasterofScrutiny That is a good bait comment. You would have got me if the username wasn't so on the nose. GG unlucky bro.

[@BogartWestern]

they're probably already conditioned to be able to take advantage of them in other ways, i.e. money, so why not dump the kids they don't bother parenting on their own parents, too.

[@GrandLineCharlie]

Imagine living a long life and raising children. Just to be murdered with your lifelong partner by your own grand daughter you helped raise? That’s just sad. I bet they never imagined dying this way.

[@kalathiele7056]

Who could think to imagine this in any situation

[@GrandLineCharlie]

@@kalathiele7056 I may be weird because I sometimes think of how I could die. Hopefully my story doesn’t end tragically like this. This is terrible

[@jer.milasot95]

It's so sad.. She was even posting on fb that same day looking for Cassy

[@willthomas7666]

Nah its not weird. Prob more common then u think I've thought about it to

[@dirty2662]

And the disappointment of knowing that you and your children have raised such a horrible hell spawn.

[@graze9356]

The undeveloped prefrontal cortexes are strong with these two

[@zoe3684]

Yup fr

[@onehundredsixtyone33]

😂😂😂

[@hennies9509]

Why would it stay undeveloped?

[@OkiSmokey]

@@hennies9509 a lot of different conditions and childhood experiences can delay or stop parts of the brain from developing

[@barreldreamz7852]

Strooooonnnggg!!!! 😬😬😬

[@AlytheAlleyWay]

"it was kinda creepy...she was like scared to die" That is the most ridiculous and cold blooded statement I've ever heard. This is truly mind blowing. It's crazy how someone can have amazing peope willing to take them in and help them, and turn on them to do this.

[@robertphillips5181]

unironcally most probably LOW IQ there are studies that found that they have a tendency to not understand how other people feel. and see other people asif they are just another animal, almost like Somthing else. not somthing like me.

[@solidussnake2425]

also dumb, "The person I was killing as scared, how weird" Like what was she expecting

[@drek9k2]

@@solidussnake2425Psychopathy, or narcissism, they have an inability to truly connect with others and disability in terms of looking things from another's perspective, partially because they themselves don't have anything but the shallowest of emotions and fleeting impulses. And so I mean, if you're a clinical psychopath, do you even fear to die that much? That's the thing I guess you guys don't get, clinical psychopaths legitimately don't feel deep fear, anxiety, or dread in the way we do. Like dying is not such a big deal to them, because their life is not that big a deal. But hell hath no fury if you get in the way of fulfilling impulses and short term goals.

[@oldhickory4686]

They took her to China and Disneyland, and she does this?! She then returns to eat, with them in the house?! What a disgusting human being. These two should be 6 ft. under.

[@andytom91]

Absolutely tragic

[@anneliese5207]

The fact that they had pictures of her all over the house and loved her enough to take her in when her parents couldn’t handle her and she STILL did this to them makes me physically ill. I actually feel weak and queasy. Absolutely evil

[@ForrestMccroy]

It’s so sad. Meanwhile other kids have their parents actively physically and emotionally abusing them and/or exploiting them and yet are bright rays of sunshine in the world.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

And they took her to China for a month for a competition and to Disneyland. This girl had a life so many could only wish for and she did what she did. I just can't comprehend it.

[@danarzechula3769]

This makes me realize what the death penalty is for 😮

[@litrogue6328]

its typical white "people" stuff yall just is sick

[@user-zq3ls9dw4t]

If you think about it the actual victims suffer WAY worse symptoms than your physically felt nausea..maybe don't seek attention over people actually relative to the video

[@amandamoody2058]

Who needs enemies, when you got family members like this around you.

[@datgurlky1]

Exactly. This is a grandchild. So as I told my mother ... I don't give a d*mn about a shady azz cousin. She just doesn't get it, and I'm tired of the BS.

[@jenniferb2763]

Eating together in the interview room was genius. Humans are conditioned to open up and share at mealtimes

[@877swissmiss]

I‘d be the exception then bc i don‘t like to talk during meals😂

[@natedawg1007]

@@877swissmissright let me eat damn lol

[@JihyoTarot]

lol it was so suspicious and obvious

[@BK-qe7xi]

The way she explains the horrific things she did so casually... shes explaining it as if shes talking about a normal boring day with her friends

[@LreemssKukn]

We love gacha games

[@trudy__taylorandjorjamummy]

That's what I was about to say, she's talking about it like she's talking to a friend about a shopping mall trip!!

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

Yeah she's got no emotional....awareness. It's scary. Can't figure out which was a bigger contribution to her being this way: her natural self, or the perpetual neglect she endured her whole life. Personally, I think the neglect played a bigger part. I don't think anyone was ever kind to that kid in any way that matters...ever. And so that's what she puts back into the world. All this said, she deserves to be where she is. That is a profoundly dangerous tiny little person right there. She's a threat to society, unfortunately.

[@Amber-yq9ee]

That makes me feel bad a little bit. Bc Back in 2012 I was living in Alaska w\mt hubby. He had been stationed there & we drove thru Canada up into AK in 2009. By 2012 my BFF & get hubby were moving back to the lower 48 & they wanted to drive to save $$. They had 4 kids & 2 BIG DOGS! They were huge. 1 was an English Mastiff for clarity. I told my friend it was a BAD idea! I LOVED the drive & we had a blast! But we are more go w\the flow. We didn't plan any part of it & just made a kinda plan we'd drive until evening then stop wherever we were. Too much been happen to mess up the plans &it can be upsetting even for go w\the flow ppl. My friend is NOT 1 of those ppl. I love her to death STILL! But she's a PLANNER! I'm talking down to the tiniest detail & even had a printed agenda. Booked hotels for the whole trip based on where they wanted to be reach day. Loaded up a u haul trailer & had 2 vehicles. Her & the kids in 1 & hubby & the dogs in the other. But she was worried about bears in Canada & had got bear spray. I told her it was unnecessary. She got it anyways. Well on the way the dogs bit into a pan & exploded it all in the car. & the hubby got your experience. My friend called me TRAUMATIZED & crying all their bookings were messed up bc they were delayed & she was a hot mess & hysterically yelling at me that I SAID IT WAS WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL DRIVE & EXPERIENCE & it's NOT it's the WORST experience of her life! I felt bad but I laughed. I said GIRL! I TOLD U DON'T DO IT!! & I offered u advice the whole way telling u not to book that far in advance! I begged u to get on the plane & be done w\it. In fairness to her I think she probably thought It was just more poor planning on my part & she wouldn't have that problem. I still laugh which is probably unkind of me. At least now she can laugh w\me. But I did feel really bad for the puppies!

[@Cuchilain]

I cant wait to finish the video and find out she only got 30 days in jail for a double homicide.

[@hannahlou3406]

"It was kinda creepy" She is the one who is creepy. Her eyes are soulless.

[@jmeza06]

Manic eyes, a common symptom of mania or psychosis.

[@keemoify]

Pure evil.

[@LadyDivaD1AnOnly]

Yes! This young woman was DEMONICALLY POSSESSED, HER AND HER BOYFRIEND. WHAT A TRAGEDY. AND I AM ASKING THE SAME QUESTION..WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD A PARENT WHO COULDN'T DEAL WITH THEIR OUT OF CONTROL DEMON SEND THEM TO THEIR ELDERLY PARENTS WHOSE ALREADY RAISED THEM AND WAS BEGINNING TO ENJOY THEIR GOLDEN YEARS TOGETHER. WHY???? AND EATING IN THAT HOUSE WHERE HER GRANDPARENTS DECAYING BODIES WERE.. THIS IS SO DISTURBING. BUT NOT SURPRISING FOR SOMEONE WHOSE DEMON POSSESSED.

[@13orrax]

she kinda looks like the girl from modern family? and the detective that cuts off her cuffs looks like the crown prince of england

[@AkChiVibes]

Eyes like a shark. Black holes. No offense intended to the shark community.

[@rinwesley3092]

Strange there's no mention of how Cassie's parents dealt with all of this.

[@lizz8342]

Killing your grandparents is a different type of disgusting

[@whiskeysteak1784]

Imagine murdering your grandparents and thinking $1000 dollars is alot. Yikes.

[@flynnfarron]

A thousand dollars wouldn't even pay my monthly rent, much less the bills and groceries on top of it. These children are legitimately delusional.

[@BillMoney]

@@flynnfarronTo be fair, it’s all perspective. If your means exceed $1000, sure you might scoff at the idea of 1K. But, everybody isn’t living in the same reality. Doesn’t make them delusional 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Bob-rv9tk]

⁠@@BillMoneywtf?

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

If you were just genuinely nice to grandparents, they might even willingly spend more than $1K on you over the course of their live. It's simple economics and impulse control smh

[@Bob-rv9tk]

@@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral that’s what you take away from all this? 🤔

[@topspot4834]

Cassie acting like $1,000 would last a lifetime. An uncle who would take both of them in for free, grandparents who sent her to China and Disney, and Johnny has a friend like Jake, but it still wasn't good enough.

[@user-nz6bk7lf8u]

Yeah nothing is when ur drugged and molested into a psychopath.

[@kieronparr3403]

It's not about that for psychos

[@SnowTails]

I think evil psycho's just like to use money as an excuse in some weird way to make murder sound ok to them, like it gives them some excuse or motive but they just had the urge to murder someone

[@MusMasi]

These two are just black holes sucking the goodness out of everyone surrounding them.

[@profiscus]

When I was a kid 20$ would last me weeks but these days I could barely make bills food and cat food for a month with 1k I think it just speaks to the mental gymnastics someone’s hopped through constantly like this girl seems to do. After a while you become kinda just default to an imagined justification regardless of how irrational something is that you’re doing Also I don’t claim to be any expert so this is opinion not fact obviously

[@sleepy.dreamer]

i’m currently a little over halfway through this and my brain is still struggling to process that a brutal murder took place because of how casual cassie is while talking about her actions. it genuinely feels like she’s just talking about the weather or a regular day of school. not cruelly taking an innocent person’s life. wow. this is truly so horrible.

[@dadc14]

Precisely how you know JUST HOW immature this girl is. She truly thinks $1,000 is a lot of money. These kids are sick and should spend the rest of their days behind bars.

[@user-ol5uc8nx1z]

She is literally 17 tf did you expect from a child? To be mature?????

[@dk-fu4xm]

​@user-ol5uc8nx1z Some minors are more mature than others. A 17 year old is at the brink of young adulthood. It's not that wild to be surprised that a rather immature, in other words, childish individual is capable of murder because we don't normally associate children with murder.

[@user-ol5uc8nx1z]

@@dk-fu4xm If she was more mature she wouldn't be doing a murder to begin with, she would be able to handle her relationships with her family. You can see she doesn't even understand why her family was mad at her even when she physically assaulted them in the past

[@dk-fu4xm]

@user-ol5uc8nx1z immaturity ≠ psychopathic tendency. I just thought your aggression toward the original commenter was uncalled for. Most murders are committed by adults. It's not so "tf did you expect" to be surprised by such a childish girl being capable of murder.

[@hot_dogg]

shes just imagining how many monster energy drinks and weed that $1000 could buy her i bet

[@AndyDrake-FOOKYT]

How are you married and divorced by 19? And just finished a prison sentence? I'm too lazy for all that.

[@Chuckclc]

Crazy and bored

[@xCCflierx]

speedrunning

[@Sir_The__Kraken]

High achiever

[@ferry2495]

@@Sir_The__Kraken lol

[@baristaz8834]

Parents probably married her off at 16 or smth

[@unnaturalselection8330]

Kudos to boyfriend Kevin for refusing to go down lightly and keeping a horrible situation from getting even worse. Dude got bear sprayed, hammered and a bat to the teeth, but kept three people from being added to the body count.

[@easterworshipper5579]

he is a total chad!

[@Mossydoughnut]

Same with Mindy! (Johnny’s sister) She got sprayed too and a bat to the head and back, and fought like hell.

[@sisNChristLovesTheLordJesus777]

Mindy and Kevin were definitely very heroic in this situation. Delighted Mindy got the bat off of cassie.

[@kandykane2160]

Mindy fought, too. She didn't just lay down. She grabbed the bat and swung it a few times.

[@lueyteledeluxe7457]

Cassie & Ryder had... • the element of surprise • weapons • psychopathic natures • motivated by rage & greed • a plan • consider themselves Bonnie & Clyde.. • And Cassie is bragging about being some Kung Fu Master..🌝 The fact that they failed to best the unsuspecting couple, blinded by bear fkn spray...is downright embarrassing... They should be thoroughly humiliated.

[@Whyxiie]

My grandma died when I was 11, and all I have left is depression. I couldn’t handle it and my life went through hell after she died. As I’m typing this, I’m crying just thinking about her. This girl is heartless. She’s a cold blooded killer.

[@vanessajimenez687]

I went to school with Johnny. I always saw him as just a loud extroverted kid who occasionally got in trouble. It is so crazy seeing what became of him and imagining this young kid becoming a cruel murderer. Such a shame. I remember everyone in our community talking about and everyone being so shocked. It is heartbreaking for those poor people , RIP

[@TheRealTact]

Cap

[@christttmasssholidddayyys497]

Kevin saved his whole girlfriends family. Him and the sister fought like hell. Kevin is incredible. And the sister and mother are so strong to have survived that.

[@larsargo]

mindy was also fighting and absolutely incredible :/

[@Morgana191]

Mindy fought too

[@StercusAcciditMedia]

​@@larsargo yeah honestly he might have had the final blow but mindy made it so he could get there, shes the real mvp

[@OneZerky]

@@larsargo they/them

[@staceygram5555]

​@@larsargo But Mindy would have lost the fight. So the point still stands: he saved her and her mom's lives.

[@ustazahummrameezalmishkaat5320]

These are the kind of people who should never be let out of jail. There are no emotions, no empathy, no remorse. She can talk about eating, living and murdering someone in the same tone.

[@simonphoenix3789]

yeah shes a complete sociopath. I get the feeling her relationship with her boyfriend is one sided too. He seems to be infatuated with her and mistaking it for true love or whatever, while she just seems like she was using him.

[@lIIlIIlllIIIl]

“correction” ☝️🤓 you actually mean prison, not jail!

[@wangson]

@@simonphoenix3789 Sociopath or psychopath?

[@ncoladear]

in the uk we use both terms @@lIIlIIlllIIIl

[@obeseperson]

Just because you have no remorse doesn’t automatically mean you’ll do it again lol Of course they won’t be let out of prison anyway, obviously

[@rl9514ef]

My grandmother physically, emotionally, and mentally abused me from ages 7-14. I hated this woman, did not cry when she eventually passed of cancer. I only felt happiness and relief but I still called her in the hospital before her passing and said thank you for the food, thank you for the roof, and for my education then hung up. I never even THOUGHT about raising my hand to her....this is absolutely disgusting.

[@asthmaticandmanic]

Sorry you went through this, respect to you

[@rl9514ef]

@@asthmaticandmanic I could have been through a lot worse but I thank you

[@blazebi47]

I'm thinking that Cassie was probably molested by, at least her step-dad, there was no mention of where her father actually was and what his role in her life was but I'm thinking probably not good either...I'm thinking that, in order to "control" Cassie, her grandmother would switch back and forth between comparing Cassie to her mother and threatening to send Cassie back to her whenever she acted up...comparing her to a woman that seemed to have opted to stay with the pedo-step-dad over her own daughter...it would explain a lot of her detachment to all of it

[@sherryblanton2029]

@@blazebi47🤷🏻‍♀️ Possibly. Maybe they will provide therapy. That girl is bone chilling numb! There must be a reason!

[@evilina9805]

Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made.

[@lym2471]

This girl is gonna go insane with her demons in jail..

[@Jenna2k]

She is already nuts.

[@RR_theproahole]

I don't know if she can be more insane than she already is.

[@tyshonnafreeman5809]

She’s beyond a psychopath. How can you listen your grandparents beg for their life, and still off them. Geesh I cried I’m so sorry for her grandparents

[@harrellt1405]

Its crazy. Even if its your enemy, normal people would flinch doing something heinous.

[@Typhoonbladefist]

That’s just how psychopaths are. They really just don’t care and it’s scary. I’d imagine some people would feel that they are just in too deep and had to finish the job no matter how bad they felt, but not her, she slept just the murder house for days…

[@4lpha0ne]

@@Typhoonbladefist I'd like to know how she's grown up. What happened in her childhood? What traits was she born with? And how did her parents behave?

[@holahellomarhabahi2040]

@@4lpha0ne Parents *and* grandparents, both. And no, I'm not saying it's a justification but it absolutely does play a part. I agree. Everyone is so quick to condemn. I see a scared, lost, definitely mental ill girl and Johnny? He had a bright, happy disposition and then suddenly, totally dead eyes. So I'd say his mental health slipped terribly too. Married and in jail at just 19? No home support, no safe space. Just 2 lost souls who found each other and in their mutual feelings of hopelessness did something evil. It makes you wonder. Even Cassie's uncle said his parents "weren't perfect." Unless they were really, really bad to you you don't publicly remember your murdered parents as yeah they weren't perfect but they were okay I mean they were my parents. Yeah. Says a lot. Again, not a justification, but it certainly is interesting.

[@TheUglyCanadian.]

i wonder if her grandparents knew cassies insta? so we can all cry over that mess

[@TheRockgremlin]

One of the things about this channel that I really like is that they ANNOTATE every spoken word. It's really helpful because there are moments where the dialogue is slurred or garbled to the point where it's indiscernible. Very few other channels go to the trouble of annotating everything and I really appreciate that EWU does.

[@alisharhodes1193]

That’s why we watch true crime…good job EWU For….what is it…ANNOTATING this crime case. Wtf

[@jedbrewer253]

i’m also so appreciative of their captions, it can be hard for me personally to watch something AND comprehend what’s being said at the same time, so it helps me stay focused and enjoy the content

[@DocM.]

One of the very few channels that actually gets the words right 😂

[@jennieB1973]

I’m hard of hearing so having CORRECT captions is the cherry on top of this awesomesauce channel!

[@ChibiSugar]

I’m usually eating lmfao

[@LifeNkuwait123]

The casual way she was explaining “In Detail” how she killed her grandmother and tied her body up with duck tape while she was eating McDonald’s like it’s just a bedtime story is unbelievable. No remorse no emotion,nothing. Condolences to the family.

[@AisforApple1346]

When my grandmother passed…. It destroyed me. I can’t imagine how someone could be this evil.

[@FatLittleOldLady]

Same.

[@steelersfan9595]

Imagine your grandparents welcoming you into their beautiful home and this is how you repay them. There are thousands of kids whose parents abandon them and are forced into foster care instead of having grandparents. Makes me sick

[@GoblinGoblinson]

Not only that, but I'm sure her grandparents were good peaceful to be around

[@Sharnecau]

That's how phyopaths roll, all about money and to cause pain . That feeds them

[@Immortal_BP]

i think she is simply a sociopath, i was also taken in by my grandparents when i was a teen and i love them so much for taking care of me. this girl is a monster

[@austinduvall2422]

I wonder if she suffers from schizophrenia I remember a few other teen killers who were pretty much exactly like Cassie. Doing drugs getting in trouble and all that. They ended up years later figuring out the kids had schizophrenia and it was made worse by drugs and alcohol plus without diagnosis and treatment it ended up at a point where the kids pretty much did horrendous murders.

[@sethmann6397]

"Phycopath." Lol.​@@Sharnecau

[@Blackgeek09]

I’m 32 and my gramps just died at age 94 and it has destroyed me… She didn’t deserve grandparents

[@chadmcclain3462]

Shut up! Who are u tew even say anything of the sort.... Smh. Sorry for ur lost grandparents are most definitely needed. But ur comments is kinda odd

[@chadmcclain3462]

Shut up! Who are u tew even say anything of the sort.... Smh. Sorry for ur lost grandparents are most definitely needed. But ur comments is kinda odd

[@iraqiimmigrant2908]

Sorry to hear for your loss 🙏.

[@michaelamitchell1603]

94 is such a blessing! I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@gonzanela777]

I don't have any at all n it's destroyed me. She really doesn't 😢 may your grandpa rest in paradise! He loves you.

[@ClampsBert]

"Even the most psychopathic of killers would have got emotional" bud, reread that sentence.

[@Kristin2885]

This is one of the most vile interrogations I've ever heard. Incredible how she's sitting there nonchalantly munching on fries while talking about beating her grandma with a tire iron. WTF. I cannot even comprehend this level of evil - doing something like this to elderly family who you lived with everyday and were just trying to help you in this world. And of course always classic that two people who revelled in their ultraviolence and depravity completely wimped out in their so-called suicide attempt with shallow wrist cuts - basically for 'show'.

[@s111stock]

She doesn't lie or get emotional about brutally killing the grandparent, but tries to cover-up and gets upset about inviting friends over to the house.

[@elitebeastmode32]

My question is why does she get so emotional over her friends?? It’s hard to wrap my head around it

[@LexKaiNix]

@@elitebeastmode32it’s classic narcissism. She doesn’t care because it’s her. But she wants the acceptance and not be judged by people she considers her “friends”.

[@MartKencuda]

I'm stuck on this part. Why was them having people over such a big deal. EWU kept teasing and hyping it up over and over like it was this huge deal. Is there something I'm missing?

[@drek9k2]

@@LexKaiNixYou know I really question sometimes whether it's my own experience and whether it just is that female narcissists are what most comprise the toxic tiktok girl, because all the good women keep their mouth shut and don't spam twitter and facebook and IG looking for attention and to farm narcissistic supply, and they generally don't say anything too controversial so nobody gives a shit and they don't get that negative attention. Sorry it's just making me realize some things I've thought in the past about why women in general act the way they do, but I didn't think I attracted women with narcissistic traits did I? Oh for context I was saying in another video, when men communicate it's to coordinate in at times life or death situations, and to coordinate in a vital hunt, or war and tribal defense, or engineering, or hell organized crime or flying an airline, it requires the most clinically accurate sharing of details possible; but from the minute the average woman starts to speak, she begins putting on verbal makeup, because unlike the men her goals are to: increase her social standing among women and secure her place in the social group; flatter her image as much as possible and make herself look as good, noble, and desirable as possible to mates; and finally, to smear, slander, isolate, target, and tear down all her threats and rivals or otherwise disliked persons. And so as a result you will notice that categorically, the very nature of the objectives and goals of what female communication pursues is fundamentally different than the males and doesn't require the sharing of accurate information at all, in fact *her* goals are such that it rewards being hyperbolic and telling and concealing half truths. And so while I still do believe that that is the case, I do realize that due to some specific things about my own background and lived experience, this may not necessarily be the case as hard or universally as I think that it is, though finding a truly good, honest, pure, and noble woman in America isn't as easy. But I do realize now, that I may be having my own views coloured so sharply by female narcissists and sociopaths, that it's painting over reality in the same way some pretty women seem to think most men are narcissists (because you date and are asked out by mainly narcissists, or because you are most vividly remembering the one narcissist that hurt you, OR because you are yourself a narcissist and you're projecting; protip if somebody tells you everyone they ever dated is a narcissist, they're the one that narcissistic)

[@andytom91]

That was one of the parts that I was soooo stuck on too. Like WHAT

[@Zelphyn]

She's so relaxed and casual while talking about killing her grandparents. What a freakin psychopath.

[@willelliott7071]

Almost seems like we need a new category of psychopathy to describe this one. Like a hyper or aggravated psychopath or something.

[@thefunnyman490]

She seems intelligent for her age at least as smart as a kid can get without serious book smarts really freaky how she just is a regular kid if u didn’t know about this and if You met her but something about how she seems normal makes me so much more sick then if she was mentally disabled and not just crazy it’s makes for a much more creepy out come then ur regular psycho path u hear about once In a blue moon it makes me feel hopeless that so many people can bring themselves to do this crap but also for me lights a flame of wanting to encourage the best in* people because a lot more good then bad is out there unfortunately bad can out way the good 9 times out if 10 witch is the real kick in the teeth

[@thefunnyman490]

And the man at the end of the video I don’t recall his name is a definite roll model looking at the bright side of things is often the best way to go about stuff keep ur eye on the ball I suppose and life will be a little better probably someone I would not mind to call my friend

[@Boomkinguyman]

The Big Mac was that good

[@patpending8134]

Feedback now that you've inflicted your comment on us: "role", you don't start a sentence with "And", plus, most of all, you seriously need to learn about punctuation.

[@ClubReserve]

beautiful way to end the video. Im glad you were able to secure an interview with him. Glad he was able to share some light on a disgusting story... I wish him the best in his life

[@DJMarcO138]

Respect to Mindy and Kevin for throwing down and saving people.

[@libertybong420]

She more comfortable during the interrogation than I am with anything in life

[@hannypressley343]

SAME..

[@ta2034]

I feel uncomfortable when I remember a mean thing I said to someone in grade school, and here she is, laughing and smiling while talking about the brutal murder of someone who loved her. Forensic psychology is so interesting. How does someone feel so little/no remorse in a situation like this? And how do we better identify these people before they commit atrocities? Really keeps me up at night, knowing that people like this could be anywhere.

[@Irish_Clan]

@@ta2034 The signs were there. Sadly, her grandparents chose not to get her professional help, despite that the cops were called 31 times in one year.

[@crazychase98]

​@Irish_Clan they should have left her with the fuck up parent's. Don't help kids like this ever thats how stuff like this keeps happening

[@jehlibleu]

For real

[@mcnamaraky]

Married AND divorced by 19?! What a catch!

[@drew2046]

Don’t forget the rap sheet of at least illegal entry of a vehicle

[@spac3grace]

I️ nearly spit out my water and had to rewind when I heard that

[@charlesincharge1245]

@@spac3graceno you didn’t

[@Tacos4every1]

​​@@charlesincharge1245 yes she did =(o_O)=

[@DannySEP]

@@charlesincharge1245 You seem like an unhappy person

[@goochjuice3250]

Thank you for giving the family members of the victims a voice! ❤ it really sets apart your channel from others! It’s been awesome to see EWU grow!

[@valeriesmith8226]

Imagine being murdered, and your sons statement starts 'were they perfect? absolutely not.' Cheers son!

[@lunalongshadow7510]

Read the comment by his wife ✌️

[@effaroundfindout]

Bear spray is no joke. My crazy ex "accidentally" unloaded a can in my face when I was pregnant. It was a million times worse than childbirth. I was on the floor, crying, gasping, gagging, vomiting. Tears and snot coming out of my eyes, ears, mouth and nose. I get traumatized just thinking about it.

[@PK.NOiR.7]

Good lore, hope you're doing better now. That's terrible.

[@christineraines4673]

How long did the symptoms last?

[@jeepsthetimebandit]

I've never even heard of it! It sounds horrible 😢

[@ImJustJordan215]

I guess you can say the pain was unBEARable

[@Mcfc2Rich]

Women always pick the nice guys

[@lwing77]

This girl telling a murder story like she played with a dollhouse with a friend she is so detached

[@zhuljojo]

Because she stake with "jonny idea" in every word..clearly wanted to blame him

[@georgebaker1486]

It's weird cause I get it. Not what she did, but because I'm a sociopath so i struggle with empathy... But even I wouldn't do shit like that.

[@JoeSmith-lp8fl]

@@georgebaker1486 Well, aside from her being a crazy murder, the stupidity of it bothers me too. Like, it was sooo dumb... The whole thing, for what? Like, even if you're a monster you'd think a little situational assessment would occur, and be like, oh, bad plan... Then again I'm not well educated in different forms of mental issues, must have seemed reasonable from their perspective.

[@mmtrzz]

I truly enjoy watching this kind of content to be aware of evil in normal people. When he said that if they weren't together, prob it wouldn't have happened? 💀💀💀💀 come on. I'm beyond disgusted by this behaviour of her. It's like talking about a videogame, but with a person??? Good lord

[@georgebaker1486]

@@mmtrzz fair. I get that. maybe I could've been that dude. Doubtful but still...

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

*”I WoULd’Nt HaVe DoNe AnY oF tHiS, iF I hAd NeVeR mEt HeR!”* That’s…..not how that works. You weren’t “bamboozled” into stealing a pack of gum.

[@pivotguy333]

I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the way EWU presents the cases. Definitely my favorite of the "interogattion breakdown" channels. Thank you!

[@sarahbjorge8581]

I am Chris Bjorge's wife. I was with him when he gave the interview for this documentary, and I audio recorded it. Before he agreed to do the interview, he researched "Explore With Us" and agonized over agreeing to talk to them. He had never given an interview about this before. Every time he relives the horror, he is forced right back to when it happened, which affects him for weeks. He finally made the decision to give the interview to Lizbeth Meredith, for EWU, based on her reputation for being truthful. I am so sorry he made that decision. His memories were chopped and re-spliced in such a way that the meaning was altered and strangers who never heard what he actually had to say feel free to condemn and criticize him. I cannot in good conscience sit by and leave the judgmental and uninformed comments unchallenged. Throughout the interview, Chris shared an account of the horrors of the night he was notified that his parents had been murdered. Chris explained that the whole thing seemed like a bad nightmare, and all these years later it still does. He said he had so many wonderful memories of his parents, and the brutality that they had to go through their last few minutes of their lives is absolutely horrific. Chris told of how his mom, Wendy, was fun to be around. She was a wise cracker and wove her personality into the childhood stories she often told about him. Stories that got better with each subsequent telling. He also spoke of Randall, his dad. Though Randall was a football jock, he never pushed Chris to follow in his footsteps. He encouraged Chris to find his own path. Chris chose to be a triathlete, and both of his parents supported him 100%. In fact, they backed Chris in all his endeavors and made sure that one or both of them were at any event he participated in. The family moved from WA to GA when Chris was in the 4th grade. It was a tough transition and Chris asked his dad to lead the local Cub Scout Troop in an effort to make new friends. Randall agreed to do it, if Chris helped him lead. Their joint efforts led to a lot of good times, great memories, as well as an even closer father/son relationship all the way through high school. The reality is that Chris had a wonderful relationship with his parents as a child. He was not abused, and his relationship with his parents became distant in a large part due to issues with his sister, Cassandra's mother. In my opinion, his sister's decisions were very poor. His parents had a desire to help her, which Chris respected. Chris's parents didn't share with him how bad things were with Cassandra. Once we became aware of how bad things had gotten, Chris and our family immediately stepped up to try and help however we could. That somehow leads to some of you thinking there is a hidden or unspoken tone of abuse that occurred or there are secrets in Chris's relationship with his parents? Uh, no! That is what good Christian folks do. We help when it's needed, regardless of how long it's been since we saw someone. We had a number of video calls with Cassandra, and she seemed on board, and was looking forward to the opportunity to come down to FL and get away for a while. What changed with that, we will never know. All of the above information that I have chosen to share with you was shared in the interview that my husband (Chris) gave. If you want to pass judgements here, don't do it to Chris or his parents. Chris was open and honest throughout the entire interview. He painted a picture of his childhood, and the relationship he had with his parents, and how thankful he was for his parents, and the upbringing they provided. He told of how his parents were fun, funny and supportive parents, and how insanely crushing it was to hear of what they were going through both before their murders, and what happened to them in their final moments. The entire ordeal was devastating for Chris, and our entire family. THE PRODUCERS CHOSE TO CUT ALL OF IT! So, if you're going to pass judgements, you should really re-evaluate where those judgements are directed, especially now that the whole truth has been shared with you, as it was presented by my husband. Have a blessed day, and thank you for reading.

[@Irish_Clan]

@ExploreWithUs, I noticed that the interview you posted with Jake was muuuch longer than the one you posted with Chris. How about adding in the full interview you had with Chris, please? Or most of it? Your viewers as well as those who gave their time, energy, and information to you would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

[@kerrybayton2954]

I'm so sorry for the events that took place, & wish Chris & yourself the very best for the future, Chris's parents sounded like wonderfull & generous people & your offer to help cassie was a very decent thing to do, i hope you heal from these terrible events & life gets better for you both, take care..

[@kayleighfuria819]

I am so sorry you and your family had to go through this horrific tragedy and then had to deal with the media twisting the story your husband bravely chose to share and the subsequent online bullies who only see what's being presented to them without questioning if that's the whole story or not. It's easy to sit back and give an opinion on things you have never experienced and know nothing about when you're behind a computer screen. I hope you and your family are able to heal and stay strong. Again I am so sorry you and your family had to go through this and continue to go through the traumatic aftermath. I can't even imagine how you all must feel, but I hope you all will find peace again one day soon

[@Joey-hb8sx]

Thank you for your comment, and I'm sad for you if people are insinuating things that didn't happen. That is not this channel's fault, though, as it didn't hint to that at all. This channel's main purpose is the criminology aspect, and your husband's interview helped give a better perspective of the situation which I, as a viewer, greatly appreciate. Thank you for putting your perspective here for people to read - It gives more insight into a very sad event. I hope you can understand that there was very minimal focus on the effect this tragedy had on others, and tries to exclusively focus on the people who committed the crimes, therefore this wasn't the correct outlet for your husband which is its own story and deserves focus in itself in a different setting.

[@mitchjohnson4714]

There are just lots of monumentally stupid people that come to comment on these videos. Try not to let them get your down.

[@user-cm5ru5qd7x]

This shows how domestic violence committed by children is not taken seriously. Right from the start this girl showed she was a clear danger and a psychopath.

[@Mike-wu7ie]

it is taken seriously from educated families with money. crap like this festers and gets worse in lower-income families. no resources, overworked, and undereducated.

[@keychain3039]

​@@Mike-wu7ie domestic violence happens to everyone in every walk of life

[@TemperedMedia]

It is taken seriously... when it's a male perp. Juvie detention centers aren't exactly sitting empty.

[@Mike-wu7ie]

@@keychain3039 it happens to hermit monks who live by themselves in the mountains? what kind of uneducated monkey would think a person living alone is experiencing domestic violence?

[@germyw]

@@I_Love_My_Little_WillySoooo, did you not watch the video? These weren’t lower income people.

[@jasonjones7461]

Omg this has to be the scariest kind of ppl. They look and even act like children but they are unfeeling evil monsters . Im 6'3 218lb and cassie scares me fr

[@melanie5516]

It’s insane how she was able to recall everything like nothing, terrifying…

[@RobHigdon]

Bro the way that female detective dropped the mic with her last comment before walking out of the interrogation room was cold asf! She was friendly as can be until those last 10 seconds when she took the mask off and let that little girl know how she ACTUALLY felt about her. 🥶🥶🥶 She's one hell of a bad mfer! Kudos to her putting these killers behind bars!

[@crapparc]

Get you give me a timestamp? I don't have time to check the entire video right now.

[@safa7_xlover405]

​@@crapparc1:05:35

[@nurulizzatinajwa9494]

whats kudos

[@carlajames4020]

Applause@@nurulizzatinajwa9494

[@JSchaffer214]

@@nurulizzatinajwa9494 "kudos" basically means "congratulations"

[@SamanthaLeigh7]

The way she giggled when she heard her grandpa's wallet was under the bed was seriously disturbing! Thank God the boy's mom came home and stopped the other attack!

[@agapeeternal]

It was so creepy especially the way her eyes went when she says “i guess that’s where he started hiding it” like damn.

[@emilyanderson8945]

can’t help but think how much of a life saver mindy’s boyfriend probably feels like. plans changed real quick when he came into the picture😭

[@sethmann6397]

Reminiscent of Mallory Knox in Natural Born Killers. But at least in that movie Mallory had been raped by her father. Cassie doesn't have that excuse.

[@hopeseeker97]

Are you aware KZbin has a new comment rating? They flagged yours with one!

[@mimcduffee86]

It's also creepy when people can't laugh at themselves for making stupid mistakes like looking for something but not checking obvious places where people hide things.

[@MB_Ghostie]

She's absolutely callous 😮 She's the leader in this, and her boyfriend was too infatuated with her. Two psychopaths!

[@JoeyisDREADful]

Naw, I'm sorry the 19 year old with a prison sentence under his belt already was not the poor victim of a HS junior, that's ridiculous. They both are fucked.

[@1nicko29]

a skilled social worker from a rough neighborhood ones told me, he could only save one out of ten problematic youngsters. The street wins 9 times out of ten. The ingredients for disaster however, are very similar most of the times. Experts nowadays tend to come to the conclusion, that our world-economy and banking-system are already depending on the drugs-trade...

[@KateElizabeth1013]

The brutality of the murder in combination with such a casual retelling from someone who looks like a child is blowing my mind

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

Nobody here really looks like a child. More like teenagers and stuff. Given that they are teenagers, that's not surprising.

[@suet.r.4815]

I think she looks like a little girl too. It's chilling to hear this horrific stuff from such a little, round, chubby-cheeked, big-eyed, baby face.

[@corey3642]

​@@xinpingdonohoe3978teens ARE children

[@thatgreenslime9517]

​@@corey3642 not true. Many Americans are pushing for 16 year olds to vote in important elections.

[@TruthMatters9674]

@@corey3642 Oh come one, she was 17, almost oficially an adult. To me a child is like.. 10, 11, 13-

[@Jessd85]

This girl would have 100% in my opinion committed more crimes if she hadn't been arrested.

[@DrakeOola]

Thanks sherlock.

[@Ducky_Mcnuggets]

@@DrakeOoladude💀

[@gravity00x]

Yeah, it was all kind of hinting at that, because logically speaking, what she said about wanting to leave and start a new life didnt make sense when you compare her words to her actions. They both go completely different directions. Instead, she was more interested in doing more of what she has done to her grandparents. She called it a "rush". That seems to be a recurring theme among psychopaths. They want this rush after doing what she has done to her grandparents.

[@BeastCake1349]

Ya think?

[@IrisKarls]

She would've literally died if they hadn't found her in time.

[@robertaquatic]

Oh boyyy that “Knock if you need anything” was *chefs kiss*

[@lindseymarie7583]

Thank you so much for your videos. ❤ I love them! You deserve a Netflix show for real!

[@mattsoreng3066]

The way she just casually talked about how they killed her grandparents was pretty chilling.

[@user-pb3sb3un7n]

Exactly. At less than a minute into the video and I'm just appalled. It's just terrifying.

[@chicken2870]

Lmao no kidding

[@johnmathis1754]

Pretty disgusting!

[@Kit1128]

Like there's no real human being inside that skin costume! I hope she never, never gets out..

[@cheddyspaghetti5812]

She tried to kill herself.... she doesnt care about what happens rn.

[@cyndeepokorny3413]

My grandparents are the two people who gave me the most stability in my life. I can’t imagine putting my hands on them ever. Awful.

[@user-bn2st5kx8h]

Me too...but it wasn't her grandparents

[@SuperTweezy5]

@@user-bn2st5kx8h Yes it was her grandparents.

[@yiotatort]

That's nice for you, but not all grandparents are awesome people. (I don't know about her grandparents, though they didn't deserve this)

[@GemmaOrangeArmyMHFA]

Some people are just plain evil & should never be released, this is an example of that! Thinking of the family and friends of this couple. RIP.

[@gino3286]

drugs ruin kids more than we think Brain damaged

[@rhettorical]

I was not prepared for the twists in this one. Well done putting this together.

[@mludwa9397]

“free to go?!” “you’re NOT free to go.” DUDE-

[@witchy-wonderland1416]

Quickly cleared up that “kinda” part 😂

[@andresterling3420]

😂😂😂😂

[@madisheppard9190]

Like bro you wish 😭

[@jacklarue7049]

How dumb is he thinking he'd EVER be free to go, after attempting to murder 2 people, then murdering 2 elderly people. What a LOSER!

[@BLASIAN_N]

@@madisheppard9190he thought he ate 😂😂

[@user-qy5vu2tr4g]

I witnessed my cat have a seizure of some kind and die right in front of me .i couldn't eat properly for days blaming myself how casual they were about this is scary .

[@peach0naleash]

Hugs. I'm so sorry!

[@chocolatefrenzieya]

Oh, hon, I'm so sorry. Witnessed my SIL's dog go this way, and watching that and her grief still haunts ME, so I can't even imagine. You were there for your kitty, and loved them, and they take that with them as they go. 💓💓

[@anablackwood6141]

I found a kitten in the road once and thought it was playing with leaves because I saw it pawing at something. I decided to get it off the road so a car wouldn't hit it. When I picked it up, I saw that it had a severe head injury and its eye was hanging from its socket. Horrified, I frantically started calling every friend with a car I could think of because I didn't have one at the time. I was on a college campus and had no access to a blanket or even a jacket so I wrapped it in paper towels to keep it warm. I think it knew I was trying super hard to help it because it didn't resist me handling it. While I was sitting on a bench frantically calling people for help, the poor thing had a seizure and lost control of its bowels and bladder. I kept trying. Finally I came across a friend of mine who checked his pulse and his breathing. It was too late--the kitten had no pulse and no breath. it was clearly gone. He was nice enough to help me find a place to bury him while I tried to pull myself together. I never forgot that experience--it was horrifying. I felt so guilty as well because even though I tried to get help, I just couldn't get it in time. I, like you, don't understand how anyone an be so casual about death.

[@slimynaut]

Please dont blame yourself I also lost pets recently and its hard not to but think of the good life you gave them and the good memories they would never have experienced if it wasnt for having you as an owner

[@kimt4087]

It sounds silly to some people, but that kind of thing can be really traumatic. I'm sorry for your loss. Your bestie is waiting for you on the other side. ❤

[@Lilimai77]

Until a few years back, I used to not believe in evil until I met a truly evil person. This girl is even worst than that person. She is pure evil.

[@ashtynrms]

my grandfather died 3 years ago and i still grieve for him. this girl did not deserve her grandparents

[@reginamachamer821]

Casually sitting down to eat with the suspect is kind if genius. Definitely a good way to build rapport imo.

[@user-ih4vn3oz6w]

True

[@TheColtonStreeter]

Yeah it's been studied for years upon years, I'm sure they figured out a good way to do it.

[@annagitana1]

To me it’s crazy how she was able to so casually eat. Her last fast food, ever. Did she realize? Stupid b!!!!! She hated anyone telling her what to do, rules, lack of total freedom. Now she’s got ONLY all of that. It’s crazy how calm and normal she seemed.

[@ThadMiller1]

If you were a lawyer you would thing differrent. ^^

[@itzamia]

This is what the police did with Dylan Roof, the kid that shot up the church in South Carolina. Instead of people getting the tactic, some people twisted it around like the cops were treating the kid to a happy meal for what he did.

[@shanlie3505]

"I may have like.. broken grandpas ribs, it was like a simple assault" *shrugs shoulders* How disconnected from humanity can you be?

[@jakestarr4718]

it takes a ton of abuse in some form to reach that state of delusion

[@river8760]

@@jakestarr4718Not in every case.

[@PRED4T0R85]

its demon possesion to both of them at it finest alcohol and drugs only give demonic entity more control over possesed person ... shes probs suffered a lot as a child ... demon's feed on fear and trauma so the cycle contiunes.. you can spott them by the "eyes, wide open" you can feel that wieird look , and movement of possesed person

[@Voks-]

'simple assault' was the charge she received for that incident

[@Emily-pr3qc]

That's the name of the charge.

[@willnewell9242]

when she realizes $1000 is just rent for the month if u r lucky lol

[@NBKstef]

I’ve been a criminal almost my whole life and I would never do anything like this to my own family. I’ve been labeled as a sociopath but to do this to one’s own family is the lowest of lows. Can’t believe she laughed about it and seemed excited to tell the story

[@lilyr7221]

Wow this girl is so evil. She talk about the killing like she just went shopping! Only a sick mind can act like this! My heart goes out to the grandparents!

[@Shelley550]

​@@I_Love_My_Little_Willy how old are you ffs

[@hakayonder3396]

@@I_Love_My_Little_Willy We are not originating from chimpanzees, please educate yourself -- on both human origin and behavior of chimpanzees. You're giving the current-day chimps too little credit for their intelligence and social hierarchy.

[@N..P..]

She was capable of killing both her grandparents, and yet you're shocked she can talk about it casually...?

[@gordons-alive4940]

@@N..P.. I've watched many true crime documentaries, and it's rare to see someone this relaxed and unbothered when they talk about the crimes after being caught. At the very least, they are upset about likely going away for a long time.

[@Lawbringer.]

@@I_Love_My_Little_Willy Shut up little willy

[@craigford3711]

The grandmother having to watch her husband die is the worst part of it all

[@dave93x]

One of the saddest details for me is when she says her boyfriend went into her granddad's room and "did his thing". Like, that's you speaking about your granddad getting beaten up. It's crazy, she's crazy. Then how she described her grandmother's last moments, the disgust and confusion she emits as she details it. Then how she says they slit their throats afterwards. It's all very hard to listen to and I've seen some really bad shit on the internet.

[@craigford3711]

@@dave93x agree, it was very disturbing. I hope there's hell to pay for both of them in prison

[@cameronmason4452]

@@dave93x These guys are real freaks, behaving like cartel killers when they have a pretty normal upbringing. Saddest part for me is hearing her Grandma saved her $1000 dollars to set her up, and she was basically mocking her for it while describing her brutal and torturous murder. Pure evil

[@bluetronikk]

😢😢 super sad! No remorse 😢

[@anitaholst7671]

The grandma having to watch her granddaughter help kill her husband... this is horrifying evil

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Yeah, the Temu advert really takes away anything from this...

[@sk8ter409]

Shout out to the law enforcement officers who handled it like absolute legends.

[@charleskinuthia9795]

19 year old married and divorced? A pretty screwed world that is...

[@PM_90]

I think that’s the least of their problems

[@arcticfox5118]

​@@PM_90 true but combined with the rest it does give you pause.

[@MusMasi]

and a double murderer

[@filthforce]

lol

[@xxxyyy4653]

She don't even belong to street. She is too dangers for the street.

[@iolitelight]

She's really enjoying the food and this chat. It's astounding how the officers play her. She really thinks they're cool with her. I love how they finally just tell her she's full of it and make her cry. Those tears are not for her grandparents but for her. She's utterly selfish.

[@user-bn2st5kx8h]

Yes those tear s are for her.once again ppl let her down .idiots

[@pheonixxam5812]

Seeing her cry made me grin, karma!!!

[@nicholasclark4401]

Another criminal cracked by a 20 dollar meal from McDonald's.

[@ctaccv9653]

Don't make children if you are not ready or unable to raise them yourself. Your life choices impact on your children, on your family AND on others.Jake's family had to move since the raid, and I cannot imagine Chris' pain... RIP to Wendy & Randall.

[@XGothWolfX]

You can be ready and perfectly able to raise children, and they can still grow up to be unruly. Plenty of psychopaths and killers have come from perfectly fine families and households.

[@ctaccv9653]

​@@XGothWolfX Wrong. First, there is no such thing as "perfectly fine family". Every family has its troubles, because no parenting is perfect. The thing is, some adults make wise/responsible decisions when building their families, they handle their issues themselves. They don't trop the ball and expect others to deal with their problems. Some people accept the fact that they shouldn't have children, and they don't. In this case, those are completely absent from the story. In all cases they gaslight people into thinking that they were poor powerless little victims and that society is to blame with the typical "it could happen to anyone"... Nope it does not.

[@XGothWolfX]

@ctaccv9653 I'll concede to your statement, but my statement is also correct. There have been people that come from stable households that have still gone on to do horrendous things

[@kmarch6630]

I can't grasp how cold blooded she was through the entire interview. I just can't wrap my head around it. It was like she was just telling how her day at school went.

[@DomGuam]

SICKENING! THAT IS A ACTUAL DEMON IN A HUMAN FEMALES BODY

[@agapeeternal]

It’s the blank stares that really creep me out too

[@jade3886]

she’s so detached from empathy it’s worrying. I can only imagine how horrible her parents must have been if they were horrible people too.

[@lagunapinyata6868]

no empathy what so ever, for people who show great care for her.. monsters

[@NothingHereAtAll101]

He sounded so excited when he thought the cops said he's free to go 😂

[@topspot4834]

lol that was the best part!

[@Special1122]

yeah haha surely dude's free to go as if nothing happened

[@Mannyfoolup]

Fr😆🤣

[@MusMasi]

its sad that he kind of sounds like Rotten Mangos husband.

[@dasha4102]

Timestamp anyone ?

[@EmEmEmmy]

I’m so glad she was asked why she was so upset about the visitors and not anything else.

[@dylanschrom1230]

"Both blamed the other" - no honor amongst thrives

[@jewlz1.1.1]

If you ever read this, Uncle Chris, from the interviews, I am so sorry for you and your family. This is beyond horrible. May they rest in peace.

[@TylerMcL3more]

Yeah, it’s sad because it sounds like Chris is a genuinely nice dude.

[@vagramvardanyan9407]

@@TylerMcL3more really? He seems like a genuinely nice dude? The guy never saw or spoke to her only holding her twice when she was born knowing she has no mother or father to speak of he would have been genuinely nice guy if recognized that and had been a real uncle instead of one just in name. Never called, never saw her not even once since she was a baby and never gave a damn also this guy has the audacity to call himself a survivor? What did he survive the walk over to the telephone give me a break.

[@phantagirlable]

@@vagramvardanyan9407lol Found the Cassie simp.

[@chsados]

@@vagramvardanyan9407 cassie will never have sex with you

[@crowmedicine3890]

​@@vagramvardanyan9407 His parents were MURDERED

[@BronzeBellaBria]

The lack of accountability is INSANE. When Cassie says "I got a charge from them" she means "When I assaulted and attacked my grandfather, breaking his rib, I was arrested and charged with simple battery." She literally warped the sentence into making herself the victim of her grandparents actions when they were the ones being victimized by her.

[@violagulianna6692]

this is so heartbreaking what

[@nonchablunt]

yes, such truly ill people will often use a passive grammatical structure when an active one would be appropriate. also know that nobody gets born this way. it takes a village to ruin a child.

[@icemachine79]

Except victims choose whether or not to press charges, so what she said is accurate.

[@wordsleuth992]

She couldn’t see past this very minor event as if her probation would last forever and she wouldn’t have a life because of it… well now she won’t have one for sure. No insight at all.

[@SuperD00D]

@@icemachine79its not what she said but the way she said it. And should they not have pressed charges in your opinion??!

[@TomDavidMcCauley]

Dear EWU, please ban the phrases “a far more sinister…” and “the truth is even worse than anyone can imagine.” That would take these videos from B+ to A

[@AC-fr9yu]

I like the male detective's questioning style - 'what the hell is this shit, know what I'm saying?'

[@mimcduffee86]

That girl is a grade-a psychopath, but that "laugh" after being told where the wallet was is not a definite indicator that she thinks it's all a game. It's more likely it was her laughing at herself for a "wow, I'm dumb" moment for not checking an obvious place where people hide things.

[@alisharhodes1193]

Off how u understand a grade a PP

[@john_hunter_]

Laughing at something like that would be appropriate if it was a game. It's not appropriate when the activity is stealing money from your dead grandparents after you've unalived them. To her it's funny because she seems completely disconnected from what she actually did. To us looking at her from the outside, it's completely messed up.

[@daymenpollet4202]

"Psychopath" isn't the word u would use to name these weak pissnifflin cowards who cry when they are caught.

[@kushhazard3109]

@@john_hunter_Teenagers with messed up backgrounds sometimes lose sight of how the world really works outside of their lives. A lot of teenagers, myself included years ago, think the worse of life like going to jail is normal and dying young is normal. This is partially why crimes committed by kids is so high. This false sense of reality makes people not think or care about the outcomes of their actions. It gets worse when alcohol and drugs get mixed in.

[@sheldonmurphy6031]

It's as if they spent a lot of time looking for it. From the car to cabinets, and just couldn't find it to save thwir own lives. When the detectives told her... You are right, that was a giant game palm moment for her!

[@tripeeblonde8309]

Ive met a student or two who was being raised by grandparents who failed the first time, then stuck w a violent, controlling grandchild because the parents are either in jail, dead, or just plain gone. That child basically holds the household hostage and makes everyone’s life pure hell. School included.

[@susieq2806]

Report him,dude 😢

[@TomSmith-jp1es]

I've also met grandparents who are abusive to the grandkids because the parents left. This case is mad but not the norm, no reason to go so extreme.

[@SanityTV_Last_Sane_Man_Alive]

this is why discipline is important. I've seen the same thing with dogs. Like, people... how tf are you submissive to a dog???

[@onemillionpercent]

@@SanityTV_Last_Sane_Man_Alive "discipline" is not the solution when you're living with mini psychopaths, and clear signs of it. the grandparents clearly tried to discipline her, but they're older people and she had the gall to fight them back. she has an extremely antisocial personality. the solution is committing the children to some sort of psychiatric facility or some sort of study, and getting community help/awareness (destigmatization of this will make it so people are willing to help each other to prevent unnecessary violence, strife, and death).

[@bh5584]

my parents are going through something similar with my niece and her boyfriend.

[@bradleythomas4936]

Her eyes are so emotionless whilst describing what took place like how can someone do that to their very own grandparents especially knowing they took her in and gave her a comfortable home

[@mothwings985]

The fact that Cassie's grandparents took her in, took her to China, and Disneyland but yet she was still depressed and killed them angers me a lot. I've been on my own for a long time, my parents never supported me, they're abusive and selfish people and yet I never hurt them. I never did drugs or anything of that sort and yet people out here who have it all and are lucky to have family and friends who love them say that they're "depressed" is annoying and ridiculous. Some people don't know how to appreciate what they have and think they really have it "bad".

[@poolcorpse]

people can be depressed under any circumstances, even if their life is "perfect". it's a chemical imbalance. mental illness does not discriminate 🩵

[@michaelamitchell1603]

exactly! that girl had it all & still ended up murdering the people who made sure she was good smh.

[@allnamestakenlol]

Imagine reaching retirement age and being murdered by your own grandchild. Jesus...

[@TheeGlocktopus]

Shit rolls downhill.

[@LadyHeathersLair]

Makes me grateful for my tight knit family.

[@cheeky6397]

No words 😢

[@LupusMechanicus]

its what happens when you mix yourself with sub hoomans.

[@LupusMechanicus]

FBI CIA DOJ ARE FUCKING NIGGERS

[@pitched7401]

Imagine sacrificing about 4/5th of your life just for 1000$ and some dude

[@easterworshipper5579]

she just needs the firm guidance of a good man she can be saved!

[@pitched7401]

@@easterworshipper5579 didn't hope for these kinds of comments

[@entropybear5847]

@@easterworshipper5579 You can fix her bro 😆

[@UncleRuckus90]

@@easterworshipper5579someone might need to keep an eye on you

[@UncleRuckus90]

@@easterworshipper5579you might need some help too

[@Leftyotism]

aw man Thanks for sharing.

[@clarencethomas01]

The fact that she admits to murdering and torturing her grandparents, stealing their car, money, credit cards, trying to kill her sister, but then she draws the line at "we did NOT have people over at my grandparent's house without permission!" The hatred of her grandma must've just been so deep that she figured people would understand the murder and torture, but partying afterwards was too far for her to morally admit? Crazy story and great video EWU 🙏

[@terde9651]

Don't forget them being intimate in this house of horrors they created. RIP to the victims 🥀

[@rorylindsey6656]

I keep wondering why it makes so much of a difference if people came over to the house or not. Maybe trying to protect their friends? They already killed two people, having company over is creepy and weird, but it is not even illegal.

[@celarc99]

@@rorylindsey6656 She is a psychopath. She thinks people will empathize with her regarding her grandparents, however she knows that people wouldn't empathize with her if they knew she was partying, having sex, doing drugs, etc in the house afterwards. It was calculated to try and illicit a specific emotional response out of people. She's clearly a sociopath.

[@BehraamK4]

It’s because UP AND UNTIL that point, she was probably thinking I could pin this on Johnny, and slime ball my way out of this or maybe a reduced sentence by pinning it all on Jonny, but the minute the investigators find out the post/murder partying/being intimate in the house it will ruin her and her case of being the “innocent one” out of her and Jonny. She knew she lost all her cards at that point, whether the tears were for the fact she would be in equal trouble as Johnny or the fact she could do such a thing after the gruesome act (who knows)

[@NurseKayP]

She was so void of emotion when discussing her grandparents and then showed emotion over that revelation. It was very bizarre. Somehow she had convinced herself she was victim and her grandparents deserved it. The murder was her only way to freedom. The only thing I can come up with in regard to the bizarre show of emotion is that she cares what her “friends” think about being in the home after the murder. Teens typically care more about how they are viewed by their peers in that stage of their lives. Psychologically there are probably many more complex explanations as to what’s going on in this whole scenario. On a simplistic level her immaturity and life stage may have played a part in her reaction. Perhaps a bit of ego, some narcissistic traits thrown in. Clearly, she has to be a psychopath, but she seemed to genuinely care about her relationship with sunshine. It was shocking.

[@Elm6724]

Neither of them are right in the eyes. It always surprises me how these types of people find each other.

[@tappajaav]

Random chance.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

​@@tappajaav elevated by the abundance of meth flooding the unpaved backroads of dead small towns.

[@simpelman]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy This is almost poetry, well it is.

[@intheredcold9216]

There's a whole generation of them...

[@Jay-jw2vv]

I’m in highschool, and ashamed at what my peers think of their parents and how they carry themselves.. vapes and other drugs are getting out of hand and nobody respects anyone anymore.. can’t wait to get out 😭 but this story is beyond me, i dont understand how somebody can do this to anybody. Especially their own grandparents.. it’s upsetting beyond comprehension

[@aqua-mina]

Her laugh there… 53:23 ooff 😢

[@kingworm7168]

I thought it was interesting how she said “that’s where he started hiding it”, so it sounds like she would regularly look for his wallet to steal from

[@nolanvoide2783]

In case the 2 individuals who survived see this and read the comments, you are genuinely hands down the 2 most bad ass ppl on the planet, fighting like that with bear mace in your eyes mouth and nose …. Glad your ok and may your lives be nothing wide but spectacular

[@hannahs3981]

100 percent agree

[@jenniferanderson1432]

Had to come give an AMEN to this!

[@WaffleStomper69]

I skipped around in the video. Who else did they attack? What part of the video

[@rosewatson7163]

@@WaffleStomper69 Bro, just watch the video!

[@Kokolakio]

@@WaffleStomper69at the start they attacked Johnny’s sister and her boyfriend. After getting near maxed (most people choke and collapse after normal pepper spray) they were hit with baseball bats on the head and body and Kevin was choked out and they were still able to fight off the couple and get them to run away from them

[@belgradewanderer]

Her eyes are creepy af

[@xKevmachinex]

Creepy? ... nah dude, she looks like a clown to me.

[@RockCity1111]

Because she has no brains. She is a follower and a wannabe

[@daniellebutt1225]

I was thinking the same. Evil eyes

[@divamontoya5283]

looks like mr bean

[@RichardPeterMaritz]

😂😂😂😂😂​@@divamontoya5283