Tekken 8 Heihachi Mishima vs Reina skills comparison / 鉄拳8 三島平八と麗奈の三島流喧嘩空手 技モーション比較

[@xdoomguy]

Thanks for side-by-side comparisons! Lot of content creators don't put in the effort to do that.

[@monadoboy8009]

I like how Jin didn't know that something was up with Reina, until she started beating him up like Heihachi would.

[@MUGENanaya]

Interesting where the changes are! I feel the times where she changes things up is either: - Reina doesn't have as much brute force as Heihachi, instead using some of her agility to make up for it (1:33), or going for a different strategy entirely. (1:44) - Other times, while Heihachi is a very stoic straightforward old karate man, Reina is a bit more youthful and a bit more cocky (3:36), sometimes even sadistic. (3:50)

[@zeruszephuros5419]

nice noticing all of these! really love how they changed all of these, and was able to kept the fighting style/moves pretty much the same, but separates the characters quite distinctively

[@Jabogers]

There's also the fact that Reina's version of some of the moves don't push the target as far back as Heihachi, like in 0:00, or in 0:55.

[@mz655]

A girl that size doesn't have ANY brute force.

[@xsx1113]

​@@mz655ignorant comment. you'd be surprised.

[@sparxskywriter2589]

​@@mz655 You think that until you get hit by a Devil boosted Electric

[@BingBangPoe]

I like how she fights exactly like Heihachi but still has her own style going on, relying more on speed than brute force. It translates her personality really well.

[@thetypeofred]

Jin with 3 martial arts:you are pretty good..... female heihachi 🗿

[@valkenttop1647]

She actually heihachi daughter 🗿

[@piyushnegi8121]

@@valkenttop1647 ohh really ? I didn't know that, wooow you are soo good at knowing stuff ha..

[@valkenttop1647]

@@piyushnegi8121 look the ending after reina activating her devil gene

[@papayaotop974]

Acho que dps desse vídeo, vou instalar tekken 7 no xbox e praticar com o heihachi@@valkenttop1647

[@Darth_Mizantrop]

For me, this is a variations of classic karate. Standard, Mishima and Kazama.

[@kouani1995]

i love how they thought out the body size difference in every move. good job as always

[@charleshodge6920]

Yeah that headbutt from a 50kg woman 🌝

[@chrisderkonig1379]

I'm already excited for tekken tag 3 with a Heihachi x Reina team

[@ru_gamerandotaku2431]

Sadly i think harada will not be putting heihachi back even in the non canon tag games as he's VA is already gone and harada has stated that due to this and out respect that not even a voice alike would not do so yeah no heihachi going forward

[@chrisderkonig1379]

@@ru_gamerandotaku2431 Heihachi's original voice actor died between Tekken 6 and Tag 2 and his replacement did Tag 2 and 7. i woldn't be surprised if Heihachi came back as a clone or a robot with a totally different voice tbh

[@LeadMetal82]

I like that some of Heihachi's movements are changed for Reina to compensate for her smaller frame. Some attacks require her to do flips to generate more force, some requires her to move forward to keep distance, and so on. Some moves are just absent because she lacks the weight and size to do it (or at least i think that was the intention).

[@MarkATorres1989]

Yeah we all need to remember that despite being an old man by end times of Tekken 3-7. Hei was a brutal pressure monster with both muscle bulk and height to back up his moveset of damaging blows. Man I'm remembering trauma fighting him in Tek1 arcade.

[@durreljenkins9001]

Imagine Reina with Heihachi's jumping powerbomb😂😂😂

[@asmallapple1509]

@@MarkATorres1989hei is shorter than lilli 💀

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Heihachi was 5’11 until old age

[@Echo_3-1_141]

Heihachi may me dead but his legacy lives on

[@RisingGamingHQ]

and his haircut XD

[@holeeshi9959]

(In Kuma)

[@Hymn_]

@@holeeshi9959 in kuma we believe

[@ricardoricardoricardoricardo]

He was "dead" in 4... 5... dont believe the Harada trolling.

[@TheReptain]

​@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo yesnt. I have read somewhere that Harada wants to end Tekken story but i dont believe him but i think Heichahi is really dead. The story telling was just great and perfect. It would make 0 sense that he stills alive. I think a new generation will appear like Reina. Maybe Jin and Xiaoyu have someday a child and this child has devil genes or something like that to beat Reina or what ever

[@41tinman41]

I love Reina putting her own spin (pun intended) to her old man's techniques.

[@Yeheah]

He's gone... but never forgotten! 🥹

[@BlazenPowers]

Heihachi isn't completely gone, which is cool.

[@thenoobzmaster]

According to official sources, "Heihachi Mishima izu kampurituri DED"

[@BlazenPowers]

@@thenoobzmaster Not talking about story dude. I'm talking about the moveset.

[@YaowBucketHEAD]

Gotta give the Heihachi mains somewhere to go.

[@FinalShieldnobi]

He lives on through his true heir, KUMA!

[@zeroax92]

​@@FinalShieldnobi yep her real son a karate Bear :p

[@gregwilliams4926]

To think Reina and Kuma 1 and Kuma 2 are the only person and animals that loved Heihachi.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

well he's an awful person, and has little reason to BE so awful, unlike his Son.

[@sparxskywriter2589]

​@@keithfilibeck2390 Kazuya and Jin are worse people, don't let Jin slide on starting world war 3 for the explicit reason of causing suffering

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

I think it's obvious she is a lab child, she doesn't "love" Heihachi because he raised her or anything, I bet this is brainwashing. Her age and the devil gene just makes no sense, she has to be a genetic experiment like Steve Fox

[@zeroax92]

And Ling Xiaoyu

[@blackmark2899]

When you've spent every waking moment of the next generation's lives being an ass, few people will think back on you fondly.

[@ああ-c4r9g]

体重が軽いのを補ってるようなモーションが追加されてる

[@johnnyelijasialuk3879]

Someone should add Oppai Mod. That will compensate the weight problem. Don't worry, game's built in engine will handle the physics.

[@babanavava]

​@@johnnyelijasialuk3879キモいこと言ってるかと思ったらちょっと興味深くて草

[@ああ-c4r9g]

@@johnnyelijasialuk3879 早まるな そんなことをして、もし風神拳が横に強くなったりしたら責任を取れるのか 衝撃波が発生して、昔の風神拳のように、しゃがんでいる相手にもヒットするようになってしまうかもしれないぞ

[@user-uk6xk6bz8u]

Oppai Modまじで草生えるからやめろ

[@ああ-c4r9g]

@@user-uk6xk6bz8u もう出てて笑う

[@ronniechong314]

Almost identical, but as it's noticeable that Reina needs follow ups on some of the moves because she's not causing as much damage compare to heihachi.

[@EnmaMusicProduction]

Different body weights and sizes hence not much power. But she did nail her old man's moves indeed

[@Exeeter1234]

Yeah because they insisted that she be visually busy because she is a smaller female frame, so functionally similar tools from Hei, needlessly have to have more strikes involved that otherwise fulfill the same role in the kit. Honestly she just doesn't hit (pun intended) the same as her old man. I personally would have loved to see her strike hard with less visual flair as that is something sorely lacking with female characters. And no it's not a balancing issue.

[@Exeeter1234]

Sigh... Here's hoping heihachi makes it back through some nonsensical anime plot device. She isn't doing it for me on almost any level honestly. Being a pressure monster like her old man is nice, but multiple strikes on many of her heihachi analogous moves is obnoxious. I basic example of this is her 2,2,2,1 string compared to Hei's 1,b2 string.

[@Exeeter1234]

Missed a few

[@luka-od5el]

@@Exeeter1234 you're saying it like she requires more hits for a functionally identical move, which these aren't though.

[@XMan2001X]

I would imagine Kuma would be rather cross about this…

[@omegalol541]

if heihachi's va is still alive today I would like to hear him saying a compliment for her

[@c.d.mont.3281]

Unfortunately he has passed away irl as well.

[@Gorecatto]

​@@c.d.mont.3281 both of them , which is quite sad Reina's grunts are based more on first heihachi VA (not including the tekken 1 with Jack voice)

[@Footballfan896]

I wonder how Heihachi mains feel about him not being in the game. At least Reina is there carry on his moves, so Heihachi mains can still have fun with the moves that made them main him in the first place.

[@Ghostkilla773]

Shes the most popular character

[@Matro97]

Its kinda bittersweet to be honest, because Heihachi (as the most charismatic character in the franchise) is not really replaceable, but at the same time it makes sense for him to not be in the game storywise. The fact that reina is so cool makes up for it though.

[@MarkATorres1989]

As Matro said. It feels bittersweet. I loved to overly pressure my opponents with Heihachi and just laugh in glee when I get to pummel them about, until I fight the more season Tekken battlers and its a glorious mind game match between us. Reina, extremely cool and living up to her father's legacy, still needs a bit of time and practice to get use to. Definitely a tad faster than Hei but some of the move sets act differently now or have a different impact than Hei's. So yeah, while missing the old bastard. The legacy lives on and I just need to adapt to Reina's style of Mishima Karate.

[@HuhFendiOfficial]

Tbh it still doesn’t feel right but it’s cool to see him still in Renia

[@inzanity490]

I noticed that there's really only a very few amount of Heihachi mains that are against Reina replacing him. I could count on my hand the amount of comments that are outraged by it. This is the complete opposite of when Josie was revealed. You'd see comments complaining about her replacing Bruce everywhere back then. Most claimed they didn't like that Bruce was replaced by a little girl, but Reina's massive positive reception pretty much shows that the issue with Josie wasn't that she was a cute little girl, it's just that she wasn't that cool and had she been better designed especially in personality, Bruce fans might've liked her.

[@aaronwimsatt9681]

Sheesh. Out of all the Mishima family, Reina certainly idolizes her father the most. Like father like daughter brought up to a new level.

[@broadbandislife]

TBF that's not exactly a tall order given the rest of the family tree (that we know of) pretty much hates the old bastard to death...

[@mauricereticau6292]

Which is ironic, considering she has the devil gene, the thing Heihachi hates most of all. If he were still alive, he would try to kill her and get rid of her devil gene

[@rambo9691]

That time grandpa got reincarnated as a teenage girl. Id watch this show!!

[@GreatGreekGaelic]

Reina attempting to fulfill a legacy for Heihachi by activating her Devil Gene unknowing of how Heihachi hated it is a little funny, not gonna lie.

[@orhblin]

Eh, we don’t know what she knows or what she really thinks. Uncharacteristically for the genre she doesn’t waltz up and announce her desire and intentions to every stranger she meets.

[@mauricereticau6292]

What did Heihachi think of her? Did he even know she existed? If he were alive now, he would try to kill her knowing she has the devil gene

[@ignisdracorex6433]

Would be interesting to know how many of the previous Heihachi mains play Reina and how they feel about her moveset compared to Heihachi.

[@matrinezkevin11492]

She has a lower skill floor than Hei but arguably a higher skill ceiling. Her lows are just as embarrassingly bad, but the unbreakable throw out of sentai step and heavens wrath really force your opponents to respect your standing game opening them up to your very VERY strong mids just like Heihachi. She's probably one of the best designed newcomers in Tekken history since she's a character that grows with you as a player as you improve but is heavily rushdown/mixup focused like the old man just more approachable for new players since she has easier launchers than Heihachi.

[@sxteya]

​@@matrinezkevin11492cope then bozo

[@theworldoffun8997]

It is cool that even though she does the same moves that Heihachi had, she actively shift her balance center and adds amplitude to most of her hits to compensate the mass she is lacking compared to Heihachi. Not the same, but adapted to her

[@jan_darysh]

使い回しとかなくて全部、一から撮ってるそうです。今回気合い入ってますね

[@tanequawoodson7609]

Yes Heihachi have a daughter yes and yes Heihachi Legacy lives within his Illegitimate Daughter or his biological Daughter

[@JustSushi0]

Great edit mate. When it was truly confirmed that Heihachi was dead, I thought he might be a secret or unlockable character as “Zombie Heihachi” which would’ve been kind of phoning it in but my thought was how could you uninclude someone who has been a staple in every tekken, even crossing over into Soul Caliber at one point. But i like reina and it’s a much better take on how to keep heihachis play and fight style alive. Tekken is just fkn awesome.

[@sinisterling]

great job. Excellent video

[@durreljenkins9001]

Heihachi was my main. She definitely makes up for it and is my new main. Her followups and combos are CRAZY! I'm glad they didnt just copy and paste his moves on to her and actually put some thought into it

[@DRGN-TYPE]

Reina feels much more fluid than Heihachi. Could be my imagination though.

[@augosyx]

Heihachi is strength incarnate, Reina had to make it up for her agility. That and also how Bamco finally fully utilizes Unreal Engine lol.

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Yep but she also now has devil gene which she will likely use in future games

[@ryanindi96]

​@@augosyxthat in persepctive of animation but also different game different balancing lol. let's say kuma tekken 7 vs tekken 8 that's gonna be different

[@inzanity490]

Probably because despite using the same moves, they are reanimated to fit Reina. While the Heihachi versions of the moves seem to be using legacy animations from T1 (or any older Tekken).

[@brazillaxp]

Is funny how her parry counter is more aggressive than heihachi's

[@Charvo75]

I bet Reina was created in a lab with Jin/Kazuya DNA. Heihachi oversaw her creation. He then taught her how to fight.

[@zeroax92]

Mmm Jin = Red Ray Kazuya = Blue Ray Reina = Purple Ray O_O Nah xD Lars = Purple Ray in this game (Tekken 6 Is red)

[@jinthekingkazama1159]

​@@zeroax92Reina has yellow lightning, like Heihachi did in Tekken Tag 1 and Tekken 4.

[@SiamondCryesnow]

I like how Bandai Namco development still bring back mishima style to Tekken series. For people surprised seeing mishima style from reina are like surprised returning without sad thing. And some moves, skill, unique, and technique are very Unique powerful with compared to Heihachi, Kazumi, Lars, Jin, & Kazuya With Mishima Style. Beside Reina combined and made up with brilliant skills of Mishima are still never forgotten and gone. So there won’t be the drama for end some content from people’s like, love, or favorite.

[@ItsDefinitelyNotSpider]

Reina is basically Heihachi + Lidia. I hope Lidia comes back though.

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Lidia was leaked though

[@vesha6274]

​@@vikingfromnorth45I don't think she was

[@vikingfromnorth45]

She was datamined

[@lingyouyan70]

0:18 Why is Reina having an additional spin after flash punch combo?

[@oniramirez2994]

If Reina wants to be the successor to heihachi she must do the true Mishima challenge all right kyazuya you know what to do throw her off the cliff to see if she survives 🫡😂😈☠️⚡️🔥

[@zeroax92]

A clásic xD

[@devilix123987]

I lost my shit when beating Devil Kazuya in the arcade mode, cause Reina says *"I don't see a suitable cliff, I'll finish you off here"* 😂

[@broadbandislife]

@@devilix123987Upholding the proud family traditions! o7

[@ajp1282]

3:04 I like how Reina has to kinda "catch" herself after doing Hell Sweeps, whereas Heihachi can whip em out and still have his arms in Mishima stance.

[@bjuganda7758]

Comes to show how similar but different both fighting styles are, especially from experience

[@killersmoke147]

Reina’s theme goes too hard 🔥

[@SmallOneEyedKing]

I still believe She is a clone of Heihachi just like what M bison Did.

[@broadbandislife]

Because clones totally swap sexes amirite? P sure she's explicitly one of Big H's _many_ illegitimate children and not even the first playable one at that.

[@thi288]

思ってたより平八なんだな　この上、躰道もやれるとか贅沢なきゃらだこと

[@foreverwhisper]

So Reina successfully makes Mishima style cool again🎉, who doesn’t love a psychopathicc JK who kicks ass😂

[@denialgodmudgway3654]

She looks really gorgeous in her black leather shorts

[@巽黒須]

実は平八のクローンなんだろ？

[@mox95CrazySongz]

RIP Heihachi 😢

[@chickenmeme_4768]

Hes gonna be back in TEKKEN 8 as DLC

[@SpadeHand]

I love a woman with a low, centered stance.

[@Pan_Z]

Many of Reina's animations are taken from Lidia, despite sharing Heihachi's properties. Her f+4, as one example.

[@dingdongbingbongdingdingding]

reina makes me feel things but heihachi... he makes me feel all the things

[@eudohernandez1982]

If I main heihachi in tekken 7, could I use reina in 8 the same or the inputs are much more different?

[@belicto7743]

The typical Mishima inputs are the same (godfist and hellsweep) while some of her moves like the 3,4 plus on block kicks need her to perform a stance input The jab extensions and flash punch are identical.

[@matrinezkevin11492]

She also doesn't have OTGF but a kick variation of it with exactly the same properties. She feels like she has more options to mixup and pressure than Heihachi but they're mostly stance reliant compared to Heihachi opening you up with DF1 1,1,2 1B2 etc.

[@geminidreik2608]

So, when the DLC comes Reina will go full Heihachi?

[@kylealexandertingson1249]

Rip sad heihachi

[@doncisco1128]

Plot twist Heihachi is back

[@danishiqbal2963]

Very happy about that. Heihachi is so iconic. I absolutely love his brute fighting. He felt like tank.

[@noobsavant]

It's actually Heihachi in a different body. Het leopard coat alternate costume is also Heihachi's

[@PanupatChong]

Do one for Heihachi/Kuma please

[@im_chico_9999]

The issue i find with reina is that she has too much movement that makes it look confusing like there is going to be something more to her move, as heihachi was more direct in his action, like why do you need that little twirl after 112

[@petercottantail7850]

it's a stance transition which can be cancelled but automatically happens if you don't do anything about it so it looks like its extra

[@BeeWaifu]

So, who exactly is Reina? Is she also a Mishima?

[@vikingfromnorth45]

She is heihachi’s daughter

[@jinthekingkazama1159]

Yes, Reina is Heihachi's daughter but she also appears to have the Devil Gene, somehow.

[@BeeWaifu]

@@jinthekingkazama1159 Oh, so Jinpachi wasn't from Heihachi's side but Kazumi's side. It'd be nice if she had something other than the devil gene though. Her having it would make it confusing if it isn't an off-shoot (families can be big, after all).

[@jinthekingkazama1159]

@@BeeWaifu Reina is very likely to be a test experiment. She could be Kazumi's daughter through an experiment, or another Hachijo's.

[@jinthekingkazama1159]

@@BeeWaifu And no, Jinpachi does not come from Kazumi.

[@АлдарЖалсанов-ф3ч]

More content Tekken 8 please 🙏🙏

[@terrelltownsend8016]

Like father, like daughter.

[@gerryapiit]

in tekken 8 we got female heihachi, i hope we could get female paul next

[@hikariamami4683]

Voy a extrañar a ese pelon, dentro mi corazon siempre estubo su estilo

[@SidewinderIV]

i wish reina's spinning demon was mishima-like too

[@moied7194]

So she's basically just young female version of Heihachi

[@obitoxshinobi8978]

Reina💜my wife💜my queen

[@RoyalIVGuard]

Was that rage art with Reina story mode only?

[@specter_of_thestars2500]

Yes

[@xBatsGaming]

That Time I Incarnated As A Purple Haired Girl

[@TheMrBonzz]

This Harada's 200IQ plan to make JDCR play female fighters, unfortunately he also released Dragunov so JDCR is playing him instead.

[@killah18723]

from a martial artists perspective, i see academics vs experience, clean form vs effectiveness. its quite a hard pick between effective brute and beautiful techniques. dont mind me, if you dont know what im talking about ^^

[@baron-chan6484]

The day when my Grandpa turns into a hot tomboy girl

[@ETG715]

Man and people were going crazy over her but luckily this video proves she is just a clone of Heihachi

[@NaciforeverArida]

i need to drink Reina’s bath water

[@ranggawicaksono26]

I think reina is too cute for using mishima style, but is okay tho

[@gfoxzx1698]

Heihachi would be proud

[@theseknotsu9619]

Mishima karate and they differs to each Mishima?

[@broadbandislife]

Would be weird if they didn't, especially given Jin mixes in his mom's Kazama style and Reina needs to compensate for being like half of her dad's weight...

[@IXIKAYAKOxSAEKIIXI]

That music is 🔥

[@erikmartinez7277]

But does it do the same damage?

[@yanisalberi]

So reina have just a less version of heaichi's move

[@manjiookami7962]

she smol but retains her father's toughness😎

[@yanisalberi]

@@manjiookami7962 I just miss the goat to much😔😔. Tekken 7 go with a dramatic story and Tekken 8 drop that

[@WrongPerson-hq5dt]

@@yanisalberi what are you saying? Tekken 8 is way more dramatic than Tekken 7

[@yanisalberi]

@@WrongPerson-hq5dt explain

[@WrongPerson-hq5dt]

@@yanisalberi i just want to ask what do you mean by dramatic?

[@SuperbiaNox]

She screams really loud.

[@miltonmamani]

Heihachi is a waifu material now

[@josuebasterretxea3923]

Heihachi be like. I'm a woman now.

[@みかん-w2w8b]

見てても名前と技が一致しないんだよな

[@TCGArsenal]

a better illegitimate child of heihachi than lars.. good job harada creating her~

[@genshin7]

3:04　いくら何でも平八のアニメーションひどすぎる

[@johnnylattarulo6735]

But I don't get it, Reina is Heihachi's daughter??

[@BigBadWolframio]

Yes, it is made clear in both the story-mode ending and in her episode.

[@johnnylattarulo6735]

@@BigBadWolframio oh ok

[@jinthekingkazama1159]

​@@johnnylattarulo6735She is his daughter but she also has the Devil Gene.

[@rukusen_jp747]

平八いなくなったから代替的に来たのかな

[@jishan6992]

She is so much more stiff with her movements

[@bjuganda7758]

Made me realize how fluent and smooth Heihachi was

[@markdpane]

Yep, she's definitely replacing her father.

[@twinpony]

2:54

[@luisespinal8862]

God tier

[@kirby2567]

I miss my grand bastard oyaji and thoroughly dislike this peppy underclassman imouto (who looks like a fortnite skin) facsimile for him Kazumi wasn't exactly alive in T7 what was stopping them from keeping Heihachi playable despite death

[@柴カツ]

八っつぁん女体化したんか？

[@superpael]

Girl version done right.

[@SHADE-EYE]

I LOVE HER

[@devaridproject30]

You want to add Heihachi to 8 but he died...., oh I know let's create another child with his movements. Heihachi the Female

[@scoresdonequick9849]

#BringHeihachiBack

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

She is Heihachi, but with charisma

[@ndh06]

Heihachib must have some charisma for him to have an illegitimate daughter, unless......oh, oh no.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@ndh06 Well, looking at his past crimes and the way he interacts with Kazuya and Jin, do you have any doubts? By the way, jokes aside, seems obvious Reina is a lab experiment (similar to Steve Fox), her age doesn't "match" with the events in the story, maybe she was brainwashed to worship Heihachi

[@まるお-c1y]

パチキすてき😂

[@charleschandrablazinger6515]

Reina is replacement of Heihachi, and still same moves. But she is cute. (is this only me that staring her chest lol?)

[@itdobelikedattho8112]

You're a creep

[@TecchanEkaki_Youtube]

平八の隠し子(娘)だもんな…

[@zethrasgorgoth3145]

So basically it's the same thing that happened back in Tekken 3 with Jin, who were created and implemented only to be a Kazuya replacement with minimal differences for every player who mained Kazuya in T1 and T2 (and in fact when Kazuya returned in T4 Jin changed his moveset to a more generic Karate style)

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Funny enough jin in 8 combines the mishima and kazama stuff with his current fighting style.

[@riannunuhitu3327]

And devil reina in tekken 9😎

[@DarthKotEI]

She's his Sakura, love it

[@ptahwing]

she is my wife!!!😂