Temma gets motivated to study English again after his Collab with Hakos Baelz

Source:【KUREIJIARCADE】オリーちゃん主催のAPEX大会にシエン、ベールズと出場する！【岸堂天真 /影山シエン /Hakos Baelz】www.youtube.co...
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[@justawanderingoldman7699]

Bae is 12 years old and she dedicated 11 years of her life to study Japanese... Respect

[@YarugumaSou]

This is what employers mean when they ask for your experience

[@Voldrim359]

No wonder she speak japanase more fluent than english

[@AngelsLance]

Then you remember Bae's birthday is on a leap year so she's actually 48...

[@youraveragemachine1013]

​@@AngelsLance should be 51 now

[@artist0154]

Poor Temma, he wants to learn english but at the same time he felt way behind, just like Haachama after her first english collab you can tell that they felt embarrassed because is not their language, I feel you Temma, but don't worry with enough time you can learn english it takes time, but is possible

[@taura3997]

But Haachama english has improved a lot though, she dilligently do lots of collab with EN (and ID) to gain confidence and experience so it really helpful.

[@jasonk.]

Well, learning a language takes not only time, but actions as well, such as set the phone language, seeing that language in daily life social media, hearing it repeatedly in livestream and video, lastly be shameless and confident to speak with people But Temma is doing all his best in his way, I believe in a year or so, he will become native English speaker

[@Alienking01]

Just look at Ollie and also Kobo, they could not speak JP before. Really proud of them. I bet both worked hard for it, even off stream.

[@suicasu3514]

Here's the thing, learning language will never be easy so you don't have to feel ashamed of being behind. Just look at ID, some of them don't speak a lick of Japanese, but they just speak it anyway with what little they know. I think that's the best approach to learn language, just speak it and learn it anyway, even if you're bad at it. Learning a language especially English is never not worth your time and effort.

[@alcor4670]

Acquiring and improving language skills are one of those things that you just have to do regularly for the rest of your life. Kinda like cooking, cleaning the house, or managing your bills. Best way to improve your language skills really is to *immerse* yourself in that language regularly. Watching and reading are the two most obvious ways to achieve it. Japanese wasn't one of those things that I expected to begin learning, but I found myself picking up words and verbal cues just by watching anime and Hololive vids. I think I first learned English when Sesame Street was a thing when I was a kid, then moved on to cartoons and movies.

[@kiabpaj]

Temma stated in a DBD stream a very long time ago that he graduated high school as one of the top 5 students of his class and went on to even graduate university with honors. So that already pretty much tells you that he's competitive, a pretty good learner especially at the fact that he's able to pick up things pretty well and understand them to a certain degree. Especially, when he's shown already when he picks up English comments in chat or reply in English to overseas fans or the StarsEN boys that stops by his streams. Plus, Temma tends to put VERY high standards on himself. I do think had Temma been given a member who only spoke English he would've used the opportunity to speak English but considering that Baelz is pretty much bilingual he defaulted to Japanese and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm glad that he had this talk with Baelz. What ever it is that Temma ends up doing or not doing with his journey in learning English, long as he continues to have fun with it. Sides, Temma is also very much a family guy considering how much he mentions his family; mom, dad, etc. and it's understandable if life takes priority.

[@broster_jet]

I wish him the best! I hope he can find a nice balance

[@dabilaroali1037]

" There was some troubles " , quite an understatement considering an alien attacked.

[@surr3al305]

I like how the 2 aliens in the same team are opposites: one is a destructive attacker, the other is a healer

[@ellainegabotero]

which killed him

[@unownnnn]

If Axel didn't live with his family in Oz I think having Temma as a roommate for a while would do him wonders but Axel probably wouldn't stop talking about cute girls 🤣

[@aymodaslacker8852]

you'd get Australian accent temma

[@MoleculeXmolecule]

@@aymodaslacker8852 I see this as an absolute win. Haachama's Aussie accent is cute. It's nice seeing the language they're learning imprinted on them.

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

​@@aymodaslacker8852 i would love aussie temma lol

[@LosDog]

It feels like its been forever since they did en learning streams

[@theoverlordbear]

I feel so fluffy about Bae encouraging Temma there! TwT

[@ellainegabotero]

I hope holostars JP boys understand that people from overseas would also love to learn Japanese (which is difficult) and that we love the boys and they can do whatever they want to their hearts content.

[@kaigaikarano]

His idea to moved out for a months in another country (preferably english natives country) is actually good. As long there is another friend from that country. I think its very good English Learning arc for him. 6th months probably can do.

[@azahel542]

There are those schools where you move to a country for a while to learn a language and stay with a host family and all, that could be good.

[@sanny8716]

As long as you also dedicate your time there to learn the language it can be very helpful Otherwise you can stay in a country for several years and not learn anything beyond the bare minimum survival phrases

[@Good_Hot_Chocolate]

​@@azahel542 May not be the best for steaming privately

[@artist0154]

@@sanny8716 yeah, Haachama said that she spent a lot of time in Australia and barely improve her english

[@prowse321]

You guys know what? I wish holostars jp can get many clippers and stream watchers, all of them esp aru and shien have fun streams and comedic timing

[@MrMagnetron2]

There it is, the obligatory "Holostars needs more clips" comment

[@ihvdrm]

@@MrMagnetron2 wait a sec, I bring my bingo sheet

[@P.sandayo]

Just clip it and upload it yourself 💀

[@Hazosh]

I can relate with Tenma as well with my passion to learn JP that is kinda slowly fading away because I don't think I'd make it where I want to be. After reacting to this vid, I knew I'm just lacking some dedication and motivation to continue. Ty to Tenma for the reminder :)

[@AlledThundes]

I said this on another clip but I really like these kind of events because they let us (the audience) to know other talents from Holo that we usually wouldn't have watched otherwise, I really liked temma, he seems like a really interesting streamer. Thanks for clipping.

[@yamiRic]

I don't know if his English skill suddenly disappeared or he just put high standard on himself but I remember him being so good at English when doing collab with ID for Among Us (or is it Mario Kart? Forgot). He translated all the rules to the ID girls.

[@kaigaikarano]

Its 2 probably since he is really had hi standard for himself

[@OuterRem]

I think one of Temma's biggest problems is that his standards are so high that he won't count himself as an EN speaker in situations where he could get free practice. Like in this collab, since Baelz spoke JP, he defaulted to that, instead of trying to stretch his EN a bit and keep it in practice.

[@fatahilahs3606]

@@OuterRem yeah, the standard just set too high. Actually, the ability to clearly hear and deducting the word of foreigners is already great, after all online translator is enough to support a broken speach in casual conversation

[@piquami]

It's gotta be the latter. I think he could understand written text pretty well, but still couldn't come up with "good" sentences right on the spot. He could blurt out random words, they'll get what he's saying, but that's just not the Temma way... In a way, I really respect that part of him lol

[@themaphiaboss]

Temma is really high achiever way back in kishi school and has always put high standard to himself but he is really good in speaking in English.

[@felicianovargas322]

I remember, I discovered holostars from Temma's clip regarding the WAP song hahahahaah

[@Alienking01]

I could see Temma getting better by doing lots of collabs with the EN boys, both on and of stream.

[@alexandriaorcld6365]

temma's english is very good and his hard work has paid off. i'm glad he is excited to learn more again, and i hope for the best for him! i also hope he can do some more english streams like he used to do, those were some of my favorite.

[@Damian_h]

learning a second language is like a passive skill once u acquire it. Is there forever the best way to learn is having fun without pressure. I thank PS2 games back in the days those games forced me to pick the English dictionary to translate what NPC were telling me because i was stuck in the progress of the history mode.

[@mayuuu89]

i understand how he feels. i always think people who knew more languages are way cooler www. i was really glad that tenchan finds his motivation back and hopefully he'll gain more confidence that his efforts in learning will be worth it.

[@sapilaut2]

I support anyone willing and trying to learn new languages. Go get em Tenma. Let that jelaousy fuel your will to learn. 💪

[@principalflame5199]

I may not be able to use the smattering of Japanese I've learned for anything but understanding bits and pieces of JP streams, but it's still worth it to me because it's fascinating to see and figure out how the language works and how the words are formed (I'm a sucker for etymology), so that has been a great motivator to continue learning.

[@goukenslay7555]

how nice of Bae to encourage him then dash his hopes of coming to Australia later XD

[@cathreensalas822]

This desire to work hard, particularly in learning English, is what solidified my choice in Temma being my oshi. So proud of him, take the leap Temma!!!

[@sivewt]

I remember Axel also said there's nothing to do in North Elysium when he was asked about it

[@dalgona4819]

Seeing A To B team interactions in particular I'm hoping more of the HoloTalents get encouraged to learn English or JP more. It's nice to see all of them interacting and having fun. Easing the language barrier even just a bit would make things more enjoyable for everyone IMO

[@misslucywucy]

Our Temma is super tensai so I believe he’ll do just fine :3 Aaaaa i really want to see him do more EN streams!

[@HatchuneMiku01]

I feel like out of all of the Holostar members he has a good grasp of English next to Aru nii I think they both have a good understanding of it. I remember the days when Temma did English streams and they were really fun. Going to another country would force him to use it more, I think that goes for a lot of people if they were thrown into that situation.

[@adrimarsink]

I think another way that Temma can improve on his English would be speaking English to another Holostar who has an equal or a little higher-level as him. He's got plenty to practice with - maybe w/ Aruran, Astel, Izuru, Uyu, (probs the rest of Uproar too), Axel, Vesper. Classroom English can help, but they say immersion is the best way to learn.

[@TotemoGaijin]

@@adrimarsink Immersion is a game changer. In college I did a study abroad for 6 months in Japan, and I went from sounding like Calli to sounding like Anya. Gone way downhill since I came back home, but still leagues better than if I'd never gone at all.

[@Gonpachiro-Kamaboko]

Its good now that we have Holostars EN they can interact more and have collabs in the future I understand Bae that you don't go out much and she did say Nature sightseeeing, but at least make Australia more presentable to tourists lmao.

[@Alienking01]

Living outside JP only helps if you make friends there or do a activity that that involves speaking english. If you just stay in your room and talk to JP people over the internet nothing will change. He could also stay in JP and make english speaking friends there or join a international internet community- It also helps consuming english content every day, both video and text.

[@Godouuu]

I liked those EN study streams Temma did a while back. I felt like I was learning quite a bit of JP vocab, nuances, and even some kanji while EN chat also taught him some EN stuff. He even had topics prepared for discussion or teaching too. It was a nice casual environment for a bit of cultural exchange and learning. I hope he considers starting those back up again.

[@TehAsdfg]

Asking for sightseeing places to Bae was pretty funny, more coming for her geoguessr collaboration with Azki where Bae was basically in the backseat watching Azki doing all the work.

[@abbypal7283]

Very grateful for this wonderful collab🥰 It's nice that Tenchan has the initiative and interest in learning English seriously. He's trying to weigh if putting his all in learning will equate in great benefits. I think that as long as you want it, whatever you do will serve a purpose in the end. Thank you so much for translating!

[@Fanimati0n]

I really admire Temma's drive. Ssg isekai knight

[@klondikesaloon7026]

I admittedly haven't really watched Temma, but I know from checking the official Holo stream schedule that he's done a ton of English learning streams, over 100 IIRC. I understand wondering if it'll be worth it, after all, I mean Bae's taken years and years to get to her level, and he's gotten by just fine with only JP so far. Learning a new language opens up new opportunities, but if you don't have a good idea of what those opportunities are, no specific goal (even if it's just for fun), then it's logical to feel it might be an indulgent waste of time, because it might be.

[@kirigayakazuto843]

Temma asked the wrong person for recommendations for where to go in Australia. He should've asked AZKi lol

[@UltraZulwarn]

Temma is in a great situation now to learn English actually as long as he is motivated and there is someonr who is willing to speak English with him on a daily basis in which I imagine can easily happen via discord. Even 10-15 minutes should be okay. Listening, reading and writing (partially) can be learned by studying by oneself . However, the only way to improve speaking is to....speak with someone else

[@jessepeterson6694]

Let chaos guide you Temma for the path to English understanding always begins with motivation.

[@ThatGuyWhoComments1]

Good lord that was amazing. LiveXStars interactions need to happen more. As expected she has nowhere to recommend in Australia lol.

[@EnverCanoNumberOneWeezerFan]

I think she didn't comment on places to visit in Australia for security/privacy reasons. I don't think Bae and most of the other hololive talents have ever explicitly stated which state/province they're from

[@StrikeNoir105E]

@@EnverCanoNumberOneWeezerFan Pretty sure Bae already confirmed she's in Western Australia. No exact location IIRC, so anywhere from Queensland to NSW.

[@ori-yorudan]

@@StrikeNoir105E Queensland and NSW are both in Eastern Australia. Western Australia is it's own whole state. If she did confirm WA then there's only really 1 city where people live.

[@Ausdrake]

@@ori-yorudan and if she does in fact live in WA, that would explain why she has nowhere to recommend lol. Perth is literally the most isolated city on the planet.

[@ori-yorudan]

@@Ausdrake yeah, also why she would be hesitant to recommend anywhere to go. As soon as you say something like "yeah Elizabeth Quay is nice" or "check out Scarborough beach"... pretty much confirms your location in an area with a fairly low population.

[@Darkslicer17]

wholesome

[@kalasalad]

Tenma moving to an English speaking country would make amazing content. Plus, he can stream during the day when it would be peak viewing hours in Japan.

[@Elit3Blaze]

Please dun ask Bae for directions lol

[@tyresefinney1985]

I feel the same way. I’m very passionate about wanting to speak more than 1 language. This video makes me want to do so even more.

[@fatahilahs3606]

And that's why i think that having a language class special for the talents would be good, even just for an hour and focused on conversation aspect only(?) Is okay, improvement in pronunciation also make them more flexible in singing foreign song. JP hq would learn English, and the other branches will learn Japanese. Cover should at least consider this.

[@shahmi09]

What about Elite Miko?

[@christianlay-geng]

I thought the last batch of EN applications was pretty clear. Japanese is recommended for the work environment but not mandatory, because your talent is prioritized first. ID naturally need to speak many languages, so many apply already knowing Japanese. Everyone has such an incredibly different pace that no general class would match all their levels or time schedules. There's been many clips of JP I can remember talking about private English lessons. I don't know who pays for them, but Cover shouldn't be responsible for maintaining it. It's up to the talents that are interested in it. If anything we have plenty of examples where missing a language has motivated a streamer, which becomes part of their character arc.

[@fatahilahs3606]

@@shahmi09 elite will always be elite even when she speaks los santos 🤣 After all language is habit

[@taura3997]

@@christianlay-geng "ID naturally need to speak many languages.." not really, i mean, at least that's not the case for Kobo. As long as you have what it takes for your market target, it's fine if you can only do one language.

[@fatahilahs3606]

@@christianlay-geng i know, and i agree with that. It's just sometimes the awkwardness is a bit painful even if it's also a becomes a comedically moment at some point, and that's why at least if they got to understand each other even if thay don't know how to answer in the other language, that would be better for them, at least it will be more easy to find the answer through the translator. About the arc, yeah, that's some special moments indeed. I just got frustrated with the awkwardness sometimes. Edit: about ID tho, it's not that ".. naturally need to..", but they naturally able to, even if it's just in the elementary level at the start, ID just already okay, at least when they got to speak english.

[@PeterButchens]

I know it can sometimes be rather tiresome, especially for a streamer who might not get many views from those kind of streams, but I hope Tenma will be able to bring back those streams and improve little by little with the help of his fans.

[@wozmichi]

i see both bae and axel have said that there isnt really much to do in australia 🤷 i hope temma is able to pick up english again, i remember attending his english learning streams and they were super fun. :]

[@Dracos210]

"I never really go outside of my room" yeah i guess Australia would do that to you...

[@TrollCapAmerica]

I hear it makes you slightly less likely to be eaten by a giant spider

[@Dracos210]

@@TrollCapAmerica Make's sense giant spiders would have trouble eating you from inside house, human sized spiders though...

[@justaloaf2698]

i think it would honestly be a great idea for temma to live in another country for a bit. it's a great way to get practice and that sort of thing can also give you new perspectives on life in general

[@intomv]

2:14 hits different after i watched the clip where temma dmed ollie if she is okay (she cried cus she feels the rehearsal doesn't reach her standard) after their mario kart rehearsal which ollie hosted

[@Manakuuchiha]

And now Temma has had a one-on-one English collab with Hakka! ^^

[@zeroanimation3956]

I think that what every Japanese problem to learn English, they think it's not worth enough unless you want to pursue international audience.

[@cokemaniac1]

This is amazingly ironic since bae keeps talking about how she’s losing her english skills and is even taking english dualingo courses.

[@israelscrewface345]

Sydney seems to be the popular recommendation, but I think if u can handle a little heat the gold coast or a trip to wa can be fun. I live in melbs but personally would rather send people to Sydney than here as it is more of a tourist trap.

[@doba8584]

💪💪💪

[@isaiahpan]

Should ask GPS AZKi for where to go instead, she did just recently show Bae around.

[@niameidina1116]

It is always beneficial to learn another language

[@barsni4779]

It is said "There is no such thing as useless foreign language".

[@hadeh6926]

tenma is so cute

[@Yasviele]

Bae destroyed her chances to be an Australian ambassador

[@JollibeenosHasYourCoordinates]

Aren't people just in the main cities in Australia and traveling to the next ones are mostly hour long. If Bae were to give recommendations then she'd probably end up exposing where she lives.

[@artist0154]

not really, you can reccomend a place, that doesn't mean she is around

[@Lugia21]

Pretty muc, I live about an hour to two from Miami and my place is soo secluded that no one knows it exist.

[@bountygiver2]

@@artist0154 but most people can't in good conscious recommend a place they never went before

[@lqfr8813]

once he got the basic minimum to understand a bit like astel, he actually can start collabing with EN members to keep improving

[@MrFreakHeavy]

Bae doesn't leave her room, but it's not for the reason our japanese bros think. Bae simply doesn't want to put her life at risk. I mean, last time we heard, there was a blonde idol roaming around the wilderness eating all the already dangerous fauna.

[@Sybato]

I think he needs to realize it just takes time to learn another language

[@bhirawamaylana466]

just dont follow her example for forgetting her own language.