Ten Kickstarters I Was Wrong About

[@srebme2]

The lesson I’m learning from this video is even if you miss or resist a campaign and regret it later, you can probably still get your hands on the game. So ignore the FOMO.

[@BoardGameCo]

100% agreed

[@DJ-mz7td]

but you will probably pay more.

[@chunkcurtis85]

@@DJ-mz7td i would rather pay more for a game that i know I will enjoy. You have plenty of risk purchasing a game on a crowd funding platform. If you wait till retail, you miss out on exclusives, but at least you’ll know you really want the game instead of purchasing for the spectacular extras.

[@scottyk996]

I feel like I’ve paid less. Many kickstarters are charging the same as a store, so are making more profit per backer. But a store will have discounts very often that I haven’t seen from manufacturers.

[@chunkcurtis85]

@@scottyk996 I agree. Whether it be online or at a local game store, I’ve been better off waiting for the retail version of a game unless I know I want the game and all its extra goodies. (And I’ll check to see if my local store is doing a group pledge to spread out shipping costs.)

[@BillyIndiana]

I did back 5 of these and am happiest about backing Isofarian Guard. They have added so much to it that the cost to get it now is much greater, plus it is the game I'm waiting on that I'm most excited for. I wish I had backed The Great Wall.

[@fredrikebbersten]

There is a lot of fun to be had with Solomon Kane. It would work well for you Alex since it is shorter scenarios without a overlapping narrative. And great, great minis. Very curious about Isofarian Guards and, if able, will probably have to get down the road.

[@hoflpeter]

The story and miniatures for solomon kane are awesome. The way how your path works through the story eventhough you make a "wrong" choice sometimes is also very refreshing.

[@derekgarcia3069]

Completely with you on Frosthaven for the exact same reasons. The only reason I don't regret my decision more, is I know I'll get value out of whatever I end up paying for it

[@Kojimalosophy]

I really enjoyed this one Alex :) , thank you !

[@BoardGameCo]

Absolutely!

[@richardkingston794]

Hi Alex. Great video as usual. I also passed on Frosthaven, but after hearing your talk and playing Gloomhaven picked up a kickstarter version that had been played once for under $80, I saw it and had to buy it. We are tabling it at the weekend.

[@Jwlahn]

Do you mean you picked up Frosthaven? I don't think it's even shipped yet, has it?

[@BoardGameCo]

NIce!

[@richardkingston794]

No. Got Gloomhaven

[@mattkutrik]

Nice list! I could see this turning into a yearly wrap-up video as there are just so many campaigns these days... My three were Dwellings of Eldervale, Roll Player Adventures and Destinies. Luckily, for all of them, there was some really good early buzz as the kickstarters dropped and I was able to get all three of them rather quickly after the initial fulfillment. I know a lot of other people weren't so lucky for the first two, especially DoE.

[@JJ_TheGreat]

Totally with you on Dwellings of Eldervale! That is definitely one of the Kickstarters which I regret backing. I was lucky, because I signed up for the list and kept up-to-date with Breaking Games's e-mails. I ordered my Legendary Edition copy of DoE in January 2021. I got everything for the game: Including the most awesome custom playmat; the MeepleSource wooden resources; and the wooden treasure tokens!

[@mattkutrik]

@@JJ_TheGreat You got the fabled wooden treasure tokens! I tried and tried but never got those.

[@JJ_TheGreat]

@@mattkutrik OK, I have to tell you that I was not able to get them from Breaking Games. The one time they had them back, I wasn't fast enough to get them (however, that was the day I got my playmat). However, I was lucky enough to find a set being sold on the secondhand market. I had to pay a premium for it, but I snagged it when I had the chance!

[@nickdejager8873]

Mine is Zombicide: Black Plague. I was aware of Zombicide, and have friend who liked the original. But I'm also not a fan of zombies in general. I saw BP, and was like 'interesting, but I don't need it'. Then my friend got it. And I got to play it. And I went all in on Green Horde. And I started trying to get BP. The base game and Wulfsberg expansion were easy enough to get. But I am still trying to track down some of the other KS exclusive content. And a lot of what I was able to get I paid through the proverbial nose for.

[@Christian-cy2pn]

I have just started playing Roll player adventures(adv.3) as my first trve board game(not ludo or monopoly) and i didn't know how fun a modern boardgame could be! I wil have great time playing this while i wait for ISS Vanguard late pledge😁

[@pecktec]

I have my coffee with Solomon Kane all painted up for that if you want to play some time I’d love to come over I’ll drive to you.

[@BoardGameCo]

Oooh, shoot me an email, I'd be down for that :)

[@jcapo5]

Ya solomon kane is fantastic. Probably one of the most unique table top experiences I've ever played. Luckily a local game store had a copy so I was able to pick it up. The kickatarter campaigne page looked very uninteresting which is why I originally passed.

[@siriactuallysara]

I don’t worry too much about frosthaven. Now that I got the gloomhaven steam version. It’s extremely well done and I’m sure they will make it for frosthaven as well. Only downside is it plays slow and it’s extremely hard. I guess I was fudging things a bit when I played. I tired 2 senarios on normal and lost them all. I have to restart on easy.

[@CheddahSlammer]

Well with a board game you can easily see that you moved to a wrong spot and just go back and change your move. I think the big thing my group did wrong was we didn't know their was a limit on how many times you could donate to the great oak, We still limited it to 1 blessing each, but the amount of check marks on the oak increased, unlocking some things faster. I also know that the steam version has some rules that honestly don't make sense. Like I had a card that moved me with jump and then all enemies I run over I damage and poison, but for some reason I couldn't add my boots that add 2 move to that.

[@apokai]

I have to thank you for Isofarian Vanguard. I saw your 2nd video with the demo copy of 30kg (ish) telling us go get it. I was able to snatch a copy of a pre-order in Canada, at a RIDICULOUS price, including a 25$ CAD shipping (remember the weight?!). So so so glad and very excited about it! All because of you Alex! Again thank you so much!

[@JJ_TheGreat]

What about your Top 10 Games Which You Regretted Backing??

[@BoardGameCo]

Oh we can get there :) I did a recent one with Quackalope long those lines.

[@ZinKzZ]

@@BoardGameCo Can you link to the Video?

[@mikeyoung9810]

The box art is the real game. *edit: I don't board game (I have too many interests already) but I like making games and watching videos about gaming especially about how they are designed so I've recently started to watch your videos..and play Gloomhaven on pc so all of this has awakened a new interest. Darn you. It's just too much at my age of 67. But thanks

[@JJ_TheGreat]

Hey Alex, Could you do the opposite of this video?: Games in which you technically backed the campaign (for $1, $5, etc.), but ultimately passed on the game - not upgrading in the PM? Because I have games in both situations! 😉 Thanks.

[@VillainCollector1]

Being able to play a game before committing to purchase on Kickstarter is a luxury I want.

[@JJ_TheGreat]

Actually, you can "try before you back" in more situations now - by trying a Tabletop Simulator (TTS) or Tabletopia module of the game.

[@TheRancord]

Frosthaven is funny, as I really enjoy Gloomhaven, but I dont wanna pick up a big epic campaign as I will never able to play it. We can meet once a week, where we probably could play 2 Scenarios. We are enjoying many different games, so Frosthaven would be locking our group or get abandoned. Howevr Gloomhaven digital we played about 120 hours with 2-3 times a week, so if a Frosthaven digital arrives I see myself playing that.

[@Kool212]

I regret not backing Radlands as well. I didn't get it because I thought I was getting too many games, it was one of the few that actually stayed around.

[@BoardGameCo]

Yep, it's pretty solid.

[@tonybowers9490]

HZD was a bargain on KS as surprising as it sounds. I did the All In and added extras and sold the extras (like an extra Thunderjaw) which lowered my cost a lot. I bought it due to the video game and the minis. I think the gameplay is lacking, but still pleased that I backed it.

[@andresmicalizzi5420]

I backed It... and I would have prefered to keep my money... the gameplay is so boring. The minis are cool though... I'm considering running a homebrew D&D adventure using those minis XD

[@StuartHetzler]

i regretted not backing Sleeping Gods, but eventually I did get my hands on it and now I'm in the same boat as everyone else who had it already. Humans have a weird obsession with being among the first to experience something. Be it people who wait in line for days to buy the newest iphone, sleep in outside a theater to see a movie at the first showing, or backing games on kickstarter and throwing a tantrum when they see other people receiving their copies first. Like, chill. Is that few days of feeling special really that worth it? Also, eternally grateful I backed Frosthaven (not that it was even a debate for me) after getting the update that they were jacking the price up by 100 bucks at retail release.

[@hamamatsucho]

Haven't been getting in on Frosthaven since I waited for the german campaign by Feuerland. This has been delayed several times now and the last info I got would be some price point of 250 Euros. Had been looking forward to get this as I did join the german Gloomhaven campaign as well but there is just so much I'm willing to spend on a campaign right now and this is not the amount of money to sink in a single game anymore.

[@maxf.7262]

Ty for the video!

[@BoardGameCo]

Absolutely :)

[@MySqueezingArm]

Good Morning Alex, I hope all is well. Congrats on your new job!

[@blakecurry3880]

I went all in on Trudvang and having played it a few times now...I can't wait for Isofarian Guard to show up instead lol

[@BoardGameCo]

Lol fair. I liked Trudvang, but not 20 games like it.

[@blakecurry3880]

@@BoardGameCo yeah it's fine but seems a little too flawed for something that took a year to retool the mechanics. The skill check system in particular seems absurd.

[@mauriceoksman8594]

I generally agree with being an informed consumer rather than a creature of FOMO. Solomen Kane was one of the biggest games I’ve ever went all in on and don’t regret it one bit. I know it too a long time to come out, but I’m glad it did! I hate when games come out half-cooked because they didn’t want to be super-late or ran out of funds. The one thing I will say is that it is A LOT of content to get at once. I rarely go all in and hope it stays fresh in the expansions. I’m also glad they didn’t INSTANTLY come out with a 2nd campaign for it on the heals of its success. Ugh I hate that. I haven’t even played a game and a month in I know there is an upgrade kit I won’t get for another year (Shout out to Chronicles of Drunagor who got that upgrade kit out stat). Ultimately, in many cases I feel like I paid to be a beta testers. I love the crowdfunded gaming world-I remember when you started doing a show and not just a used game seller I saw on BGG-so congratulations on your new job!

[@lisahenrion7129]

The isofarian guard is like frosthaven, the MSRP will be significantly higher later, so glad I backed this one!

[@gstuartdunn]

Flipped Museum Pictura as soon as I received it. Decided to just be happy with Museum. Love RP Adventures, but Thundeworks is always forthcoming, no KS exclusives, so get it in KS or retail. Can't wait for coming expansion.

[@DashOr]

Not getting Isofarian Guard still hurts me. But it was over 50€ shipping, so I passed. And it will never be released in german ;( Foundations of Rome has the same price problem but the production was tempting. Still way too expensive.

[@BoardGameCo]

Ouch, that hurts.

[@dcrules2157]

Loving your channel, would also watch Gloomhaven, but only the full playthrough. Any chance you will upload older streams to KZbin?

[@BoardGameCo]

Yes actually, that's very much in the plans.

[@Migmeister13]

Hi Alex! Great list great video, great mix of games. I backed only one of them. lately, the latest tainted Grail. I never supported it because I was a bit disappointed by the repetition I felt playing 7th Continent. But 2 friends of mine I digging deep into that one, I played twice with them and loved it, and now, I used my referral work bonus to pledge the gameplay all-in. I also own Roll Player Adventures and will definitely get my hands on Frosthaven eventually. Planet Unknown will most likely also come my way. I'm looking forward to try Horizon Zero Dawn and Solomon Kane, but for now, I have no intentions to buy them. Finally, I played and I enjoyed Foundations of Rome. It is fun and amazingly pretty, and I'm not going to pay for high produced game. But, for any one looking for a medium weight game, that has an amazing presence, go for it. But for me, being pretty is not enough to spend so much. I'm so happy 2 of my friends bought it, and I don't have too!! As for Ks/Gamefound in general. For my part, I jumped in during the Pandemic, backing more than 35 projects in 2 years (I've back 5 total before that). I was down to 9 this year, but just backed 2 more. Tainted Grail and Quodd Heroes. I rarely back 1st edition project, and only if they are not easy to find or cost too much. But there are some exception. Like Endless Winter coming soon! Or Earth earlier this year. I don't have FOMO, but I like to get all the gameplay a game can offer. Until now, most of my KS were bought after the campaign, and sometimes 2-3 years later at good price. For example, I got a full nemesis pledge(everything except lockdown), with the washed mini for 250$ CDN. The mini's are amazing! I like the reasons behind KS and gamefound, but i hate to wait 12 to 24 months, sometime more. I like when I'm looking for a game, that I can get it int he next month. So, thank you for honesty, I love how you see gaming like me. Everything is based on how much fun a game gives you. Have a great day!

[@jerander]

A top 10 games you wish there was a digital version of? Like how Gloomhaven has a digital version.

[@BoardGameCo]

Oooh, that's a great idea :)

[@SeanUCF]

@@BoardGameCo Yeah, I came across Paladins Oath (a mage knight clone) thanks to your channel. Just picked it up a short while ago on sale and looking forward to giving it a try. Would love to see more content like that. Especially if you're able to do comparisons b/w the digital and physical versions.

[@botousai]

I was lucky enough to get the $100 Frosthaven. Man did I get lucky with that one lol.

[@BoardGameCo]

Nice :)

[@kumarsalib722]

I really want Frosthaven, but I ended up cancelling it because I'm nowhere near completing gloomhaven.

[@BoardGameCo]

Yep, totally fair

[@Carsten_de_1981]

TFM:TDG does not offer German so I will pick up the German retail with KS upgrade pack. I chose not to back Wonderland's War, luckily picked it up in a Community for the same price he paid. Did not miss out in the end. I am still unsure if I regret that I did not back Beyond Humanity: Colonies. Looks awesome, but not sure if the actual worker placement is not too dull. Be happy not to have picked up Horizon. Too much plastic. Too expensive. But sure regret not to have backed Frosthaven. It already doubled its value.

[@lotterwinner6474]

The digital version of gloomhaven killed the physical game for me. Digital is just so easy to "Get to the table". As a group we were able to play through 3 scenarios online in the same time as 1 regular playthrough. Gloomhaven is on my to sell list. Frosthaven looks great but I assume the digital version will be my go to.

[@BoardGameCo]

Absolutely understand that

[@gregorycook3550]

Isn't there to be a Frosthaven 2nd printing KS? Perhaps I'm mistaken about that however. And there is a new expansion coming up for RPA! Yay.

[@BoardGameCo]

They have the miniature campaign coming up.

[@TheGriever66]

We have luck with frosthaven that they have decided to raise the retail price instead charging on the backers(for now). I don't think you'll be able to find it at 80 $ so easily.

[@Mepper.]

I was tempted by Canvas and Planet Unknown. Well, I gave in and backed both. :) No regrets. I regretted not backing Arkeis for a couple years, but it has been delayed for so long that the hype has pretty much worn off. Recently I saw retail preorders appear and I still haven't pulled the trigger to order it. The issue now is just too many games. Even if Arkeis is great I don't think I have enough time and space for it.

[@leewebster1899]

Alex the thing about Solomon Kane is that you don't have to play every scenario to understand the game and enjoy it. I am biased, being a Robert E Howard fan though. Not all of the scenarios are great. Some frankly are mediocre. But I find the theme and mechanics of the game to be interesting. Borrow the game and one of the smaller scenario books (I like Rattle of Bones) and I think you will at least find it an interesting 45mins.

[@mykemztr]

I just hope isofarian guard goes to retail . The game that i want most next to arydia

[@BoardGameCo]

It would be nice :)

[@TechPriestFred]

Hey there! Quick question before watching the video- are you planning on doing a Darkest Dungeon Board Game review? If yes, when could we expect it?

[@MySqueezingArm]

bump.

[@OmfgItsSteven]

Time stamps little messed up

[@BoardGameCo]

Thanks!

[@MrMoreMoe]

I'm having remorse about not backing Castles of Mad King Ludwig Royal edition.

[@BoardGameCo]

I like Castles....but not $100+ like it :)

[@runwin3]

I’m surprised Dead Reckoning wasn’t on the list

[@Christian-cy2pn]

One more thing. It was channels like this that made me open my eyes to this hobby. Keep up the great work👍

[@BoardGameCo]

Aww that's sweet thanks!

[@1AngelAlita]

I also backed Trudvang over Isofarian Guard. It was probably a mistake.. ;)

[@BoardGameCo]

Trudvang is fun....but I prefer Isofarian.

[@zakkoehler6820]

I backed Frosthaven after I heard about the $250 MSRP. Easy Flip IMHO

[@BoardGameCo]

lol yep

[@sidneyleejohnson]

Well I've complained before about HZD coverage but mostly from the company itself and not my favorite influencers. They were demonstrating game play in a series right up to the closing of the pledge manager. They never made it to a boss fight in this series so I backed away from completing my pledge (1Euro loss) since it seemed like a lack of transparency. Unfortunately, IMHO the KS exclusives for HZD IMHO are too good to purchase without. I literally was torn right up to the final hour for HZD's pledge manager closing. It certainly didn't help that my favorite influencers were not impressed either... SIGH. ARGH. Ok that said I did back Canvas, Frosthaven, RPA, Foundations of Rome, Planet Unknown, and Radlands. I was also really torn on Solomon Kane and was regretting it later as well. Interesting in that this is one of the few videos where I have such a high overlap (in either direction).

[@CDCyD]

If he ended up having all but 2, I never got the purpose of the video

[@Filthyanimal9]

Thx for sharing, Alex

[@BoardGameCo]

Absolutely :)

[@rudyjansen4242]

Great to see Radlands in this list!

[@BoardGameCo]

It's such a good game :)

[@sylvieroets4214]

Hello Alex. My son loves playing Horizon (Zero Dawn & Forbidden West) on the PS. I saw that it also exists as a board game, but are there similar games? Can you give me some ideas? What would you also recommend trying?

[@armstronghawkins9183]

I'm gonna have to finally check out Roll Play Adventures.

[@timestop5843]

Kingdom come deliverance looks to be cancelled

[@BoardGameCo]

Sadly :(

[@tylerdryden]

radlands is really the solid one out of these

[@psych0p4ss28]

can you make a ten kickstarters i was right about video?

[@BoardGameCo]

Sure :)

[@samhowe9986]

@@BoardGameCo Wouldn't it be more like "the 100 KS I was right about" video? 🤣

[@EE-te8zo]

Very difficult for me to buy or back any Steamforged game after Dark Souls. I know SFG has gotten better, but DS was so bad…..

[@Sulucion6Tone]

I think 4 of these games were on your 2020 video of what NOT to back. hehehe ..

[@BoardGameCo]

Makes sense :)