Tenere 700, the most important modification you can make

In March 2022 while riding at the OpenRoads Rally I got a little carried away on a track jumping the erosion washouts. When I landed after a washout my back wheel skipped out a little and my change came off. While I didn't initially realise the damage it caused, a little while later when I noticed a pool of oil below my bike the realisation of just how much damage it caused hit home. This is the story of what happened next and how the whole issue was resolved. It really could've been avoided right from the start if I had just made a simple cheap modification to my Tenere700.
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[@DirtZen]

The short version: Get a chain guard. You're welcome.

[@goatman86]

Thanks. Like for you, like for the video and almost 9 minutes saved 😅

[@scottloftin1730]

I enjoyed the footage of Australia.

[@michaelglenn2468]

Guide

[@Level-zb4jg]

LOL. Agreed the scenery was nice.

[@NomadSweden]

Thanks for this! I have a chain guard but didn't really have a good answer why I got it. Now I do :) Cheers.

[@tshansen]

Ordered one 🎉 Thank you for this mate

[@sorin.n]

Thanks for recommending the video!

[@berndo.1550]

Hej Robert i had mounted it, too. Now I know for what ist is.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Cheap insurance I think, thanks for watching.👍

[@GrizzlyDaddams]

I'm so glad I stuck around for the entire vid. This is just epic. I know what I have to do and what I can do, to get through or even prevent a tough situation. Invaluable information. Ty!

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I'm glad you got something out of it.👍

[@dw5523]

I can't thank you enough for not using a click bait title. I almost didn't watch this one because I figured it was just appealing to the algorithm gods for more views. Happy to be wrong. Congrats on the great ride, thank you for sharing your experience with us.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching the video and taking time to reply, enjoy your Tenere.😀

[@kaneoliver2080]

I ordered a chain guide the day I took my bike to the 1000 km first check over service at the dealership as it was the first things I noticed coming from riding motorcross / enduro bikes. Thanks for spreading the info

[@verbalwidget7267]

I’m glad you were able to continue the ride and get the bike repaired. I just installed a primary drive chain guide on my T700 from Rocky Mountain, it has metal sides and the polyurethane rub blocks in between its very sturdy. Main thing is get something it’s cheap insurance. Thank you

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You are spot it is cheap insurance, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.👍

[@sandpiperuk]

My T7 had the full rally pack fitted when I bought it which included the chain guide and ally chain guard. The mounting screw holes are already in the swinging arm. Another thing to watch out for is the exhaust mounting. If you fall on the exhaust side and push the silencer inwards, it WILL rub against the swinging arm and potentially wear a hole in it.

[@MyBridgestone24]

My buddy and I both have T7s and he nearly did the same thing. Quick spill and didn’t realize he lost his chain. Upon trying to leave he wrapped the chain around the front sprocket. Luckily, in this case, no case damage. This is a real issue with these bikes. Chain guide is a must.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes he was lucky, the case protector mounting points are a real weak point. 👍

[@stepheneldridge6998]

Good to know...I will get one ! Chain disaster aside, that was a great video of some lovely trails. Just subscribed! Cheers, Steve

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thank you Stephen, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.🙏

[@jethrowingnut13]

Thanks for the heads up. Ordering one today. Cheers.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

No problems🙏

[@pastrie42]

Thank you! I’m going to be buying a Tenere 700 and you put out great videos.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

[@martinfretwell]

Mines been on order for 3 weeks I guess every uk t7 rider has now ordered one after watching this video. Hope you make some more videos the terrain looks great.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

I’ve certainly received plenty of messages from people saying they have just purchased a chain guide. I’ve got plenty more videos in the pipeline just need to find time to edit them. Thanks for watching.🙏👍

[@ralfabel8657]

Holy shit! I've newer seen this damage before. Hapily I've got a chain guide😅. Nice ride, go on!

[@toddwmac]

Great addition! I have a 990 and the kickstand bracket was notorious for tearing up the motor case so other options were found. This looks like a similar great addition! Much appreciation from the Rocky Mountains of the US.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I was looking to purchase a 990 before I rode a T7. Loved the 990, but rode the T7 better.👍

[@toddwmac]

@@MileMunchinAdventures Good to know. I'm looking forward to throwing a leg over one soon. Cheers!

[@nathan_700]

Great story ❤

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

This has reminded me that if you’re going off road fit a chain guide no matter what the bike.👍

[@jorgelabrada6149]

Thanks for the tip mate!

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

No problem 👍

[@dirtbike_viking]

Thats a great tip mate thanks for sharing 👍

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You're welcome, I don't want anyone to go through what I went through, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.😀

[@Nerb1]

I bought a chain guide in April 2022 ;) Straight after I saw you on the side of the track.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

It’s amazing how many people saw your video then when they met me asked how my bike was going. By the way I got mine in March, 1 week after the open roads rally👍😬

[@danielhusain7570]

a top tip and riding inspiration, cheers

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

Thanks Mate !

[@TheRiderGuider]

OUCH. Yeh mate, one of the first things I fit to mine, glad I did looking at that! Good vid/info.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching, it's a shame the bike doesn't come with one from new.

[@olered1523]

I have ordered a 2024 Tenere 700. I ordered it with the "optional" chain guide. Something that I believe should be standard as it is on my wr250r.

[@1Oldgreenbus]

Awesome.. Thanks! Just checked my stash for the two part epoxy.. chain guide check!

[@teneretreckin8384]

I installed my chain guide with'in the first week. It's a no brainer that one.

[@SmokinZen]

I’m so glad I got one I didn’t know what could happen without one

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching, it's a shame they don't come with the motorbike from new.

[@jc7654]

so great, i ordered one the same day i ordered my bike, cheers 🥂

[@colebaldwin3532]

I just installed an acerbic chain guide today. It's a really good quality chain guide.

[@Mapandacompass]

My Tenere Will be here the first week of May. I have spent funds on mods. I am about to order a chain guard. Your problem helped a ton of us. One other boon for you and I....... I am now a subscriber Friend/Mate

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks Tom, enjoy riding the Tenere700 what a brilliant bike, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I hope I’ve helped a few Tenere700 riders with my issue, I wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else.👍

[@3511104]

Gracias por el consejo 👍💪 bonita experiencia la que tuvieron por esos campos

[@danstevens2204]

Mile munchin and case punchin 👍🏻

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You’re a poet and don’t know it.

[@MVDBR]

Guess I got lucky, one of the top mounts for the sprocket cover snapped off when my chain came off. And didn't quite put a hole in the case. Bad news is, I had the chain guide on at the time, so it's not guaranteed to keep your chain on. I was only idling along in 2nd gear when a rogue stick knocked my chain off too. Definitely a weakness with these bikes but fuck it, send it 😎☝️

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

It’s definitely a weakness those mounting points. I’m convinced my chain wouldn’t have come off and caused the damage it did if the chain guide was in place. The chain gathered and put a fair amount of pressure onto the engine case. The chain guide wouldn’t have allowed that much chain to bunch up. 👍😬

[@goatman86]

I don't quite see how is it possible for chain to come off with the guide on.

[@dave-d]

Ouch! I'm going to check around the front sprocket area. Some of my previous bikes had a steel strip in the sprocket guard to prevent this. Not sure if the T7 has one. Could be a good mod. Bought a chain guide as one of the first upgrades. Really glad I got one after seeing this. Hope you got home OK mate. Thanks for posting.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

The problem with the Tenere is the long support arms for the engine guard which protrude from the engine case. If you put sideways force on them they will break.

[@johnstaring3210]

The metal strip at the front sprocket is to attempt to stop the chain bunching there but I doubt its ability to actually do this. The main thing is the chain jumping off the rear sprocket, and the only way to prevent this is the rear chain guide. Inexplicable that it is not standard.

[@PatchedBandit]

Cool video. I had a guide in place from the start but wonder if there would be any product that would better protect the engine side if and when there is a chain brake or some other issue..

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

If the case protection product relied on being attached through the existing mounts from the engine then it would still leave the engine mounts as a weak point. Safest bet it to try and keep the chain from coming off.

[@BikerGirlTraveler]

I don’t ride much off road and I’ve always had a bad feeling about the chain. Even when adjusted to specs, the chain seems a bit too loose to me. May be because this is my first adventure bike and sport bikes don’t have chains that loose. So one of the first mods I purchased for it after the crash bars was Yamaha’s chain guide. It gives me peace of mind, because I would hate fir the chain to come off on the freeway. I think that the T7 should come with ine from the factory.

[@kidxaos1466]

You should be making a commission on all the chain guides you've helped sell this past couple of weeks. I rushed out right away and got one after watching this.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

That’s a very good point, do you want a job as my in-house entrepreneur? Thanks for watching.👍😬

[@scliff7]

Yep. I took your advice and ordered one from acerbis. 80 bucks or a loonie sized hole...?

[@nastysoda9212]

thank you

[@D.E.X]

No one makes a chain-guide for my V-Strom (DL1000XAL8). Guess I get to fabricate one. After what a jump did to your T7, I can see it happening to my V-Strom. I'll have to modify how it mounts to the frame after I find a aftermarket with my chain size (525) that doesn't bolt up. Probably have to do the same for the '78 Suzuki GS750 scrambler. Used to modifying things for it. It has a GS 800 Skid plate on it. A chain-Guide should be a snap. Both will just need something to protect them so a hit doesn't cause THEM to derail the chain. Excellent video, thanks for the wake-up call.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to write a comment, it's a shame the V-Strom doesn't come with a chain guide especially when you know many riders will be riding it off road.

[@scottloftin1730]

I have been riding for over 40 years, I own a 2014 Vstrom 1000 and a T7. I dont know anyone that has had this issue on a properly maintained bike. If Yamaha made the T7 with a major flaw I would be quite surprised.

[@alexakkers2859]

Thanks so much for the advice...I am riding with the Acerbis chain guide, not expensive at all ... But rather noisy... I guess noisy is normal

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

I don’t notice the noise because I’m used to the loud sound on all of my dirt bikes. I guess if you came from a road riding background you might notice the noise more. My knobby Tyres drown out most of the other noise, except the exhaust it always sounds awesome. 👍

[@H.A..]

Noice mate. Sound advice and I don't even own any bikes at the moment. Yamaha changed the angles in the frame and sprocket size of these bikes to get better anti-squat which then creates more varying chain tension. That's probably the reason why the chain comes off when hopping around the track. Having said that hopefully I'll buy a T7 in the near future which I'll surely put a chain guide on if it don't come with one. Happy riding!

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, enjoy your T7 when you get it they are awesome.

[@H.A..]

@@MileMunchinAdventures 🙏👍🏍

[@glight5205]

IIt was the first thing I installed on this bike before getting it out from my local distributor.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Smart man.👍

[@dbbiking5505]

Cheers nice vid

[@bobdrakeford5731]

That was not good Rodney. I fitted a chain guide a long time ago, hoping it gave some protection. My T7 did my head in re chain tension per manual after a local Motorcycle Mechanic did a chain adjustment that was so tight I thought something was going to break. I have it set to my liking now, and only trust myself with any work on the mighty T7. Thanks for sharing. 👍😁

[@RodneyBrown21]

Yes it was very unlucky Bob, but it's fixed now and she is running like a dream, such a great bike, puts a smile on my face every time I ride her. I've even got my wife sitting on the back now, so we can some cruisy one day adventures with her now. 😀

[@martinfretwell]

Is the chain guide noisy. Thanks

[@bobdrakeford5731]

I've installed the Yamaha Chain Guide and to me, it's not noisy. I really didn't notice much of a change. 👍😁

[@johnstaring3210]

@@martinfretwell I'd rather the noise, if there is any, than damage as shown in the excellent video. No brainer.

[@martinfretwell]

@John Staring if it's noisy sometimes it will wear the heads off the chain kink like ktm excs suffer from .

[@fbcdesigner]

Thanks for Sharing. Just a question, did you check the chain tension before the ride? Maybe a loose chain can cause this.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

A loose chain could definitely cause it, I did check the chain tension before the ride. I put new tyres on so went through the whole check process. It was a freak accident that could’ve been avoided with a chain guide.👍

[@whitedrguy6503]

One of the first items I ordered and fitted to my T7 when I bought it was a chain guide, one look at the bike for the first time I thought wow no chain guide on what is basically designed as a dirt bike, bit of a bad step by Yamaha, even though it is in the parts catalogue and it doesn’t cost a fortune.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Couldn’t agree more, when I purchased the bike secondhand I didn’t realise it didn’t have one, a big oversight by Yamaha.👍

[@Speelbird]

Now I know that I need Epoxy Glue in my Toolcase on my Bike, thanks :)

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

The JB Weld is a must in my tool kit, I’ve had to use it a few times on friends bikes to keep them going.

[@bjnuma01]

A real world reason to get an aftermarket mod! Great vid. Now, where’s my debit card??

[@dalehatton6965]

Another major issue with the chain on the Tenere 700 is chain tension, guaranteed anyone who has a Tenere and is reading this has too much slack in their chain, it may look like a dirt bike and ride like one but your chain needs to be set to correct tension as in your owners manual, it stipulates if your chain is too loose it will and can cause damage to the case.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes you make a great point, in my case the chain was set to the correct tension before I started my journey, I'm not sure what happened on the journey but I guess strange things can happen even when you follow all the rules.

[@stevenparish9874]

Ordered my chain guide today

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You won’t regret it.👍🍺

[@AdventureTomek]

Wow!

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching!😀

[@Jonathan-L]

Lucky it was a clean break and it the damage was localised. Sometimes we just need to see the good side of bad luck.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes it was a good luck, bad luck story, it could've been far worse. Thanks for watching.

[@trapdoorspider9211]

Did you have to drill and tap to fit this or was they already done?

[@JohnSmith-ef8nr]

Wow, I'm getting a chain guard after seeing this

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes it is cheap insurance.

[@letsgooffroad5936]

omg thanks, finally i know what it's good for :D

[@salvatorerusso3902]

Hi there. I added the original chain guide ordering a new T7. Using it since few days with 500 km on it and the chain does touch the guide making a lot of noise while driving. Is it supposed to be normal for your experience? Best regards

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

All of my motorbikes have chain guides, so I'm used to the noise, to be honest when I put my chain guide on I couldn't hear the difference. But the chain does touch my chain guide, it might be something you'll get used to. Thanks for watching.

[@pareshprajapati7916]

Thank you sir 🙏🇮🇳

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You are welcome👍🥴

[@algonzalez7192]

Maybe installing plastic bolt on the cover just like on the front forks?

[@ripnriding1]

Yaman. I had this installed before I even fired up the bike

[@MichaelTucker]

Pretty sure B&B Offroad make a case saver for the front sprocket on a T7 as well.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes they do, we just need Yamaha to beef up the mounting points, they are the weak points.👍

[@RiflemanSE]

I just ordered one, will mount it later this week. How do you measure chain tension with it on, is it still the specs the manual refers to?

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching, you still measure the tension of the chain the same as before the chain guide has no impact on the tension of the chain.

[@RiflemanSE]

@@MileMunchinAdventures Thanks for your reply. Ok, that’s good, I read somewhere that it affected the tension a little but no one explained if it needed any consideration when setting the tension 👍🏻

[@ilyaivanov2283]

🤙

[@BoardWalkToke]

Also buy swingarm guards. Whoever designed the exhaust placement causes it to mash into the swingarm if you drop it on the right side even at a stand still.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes I’ve already suffered from a simple drop on the right side which pushed the exhaust in a little and started to rub against the swing arm. I keep a close eye on it now. 👍 thanks for watching.

[@brendenvosper7772]

The same issue with the 660 tenere. Do I recall your farmer mate had one throw a chain in one of your videos? I had to laugh at one of my riding mates. He’d just got a 660 and I warned him to be diligent on the chain tension due to this issue. You guessed it, first ride, it threw the chain. Fortunately no damage though. I was half expecting the full Rodney garage of you pulling the entire engine down to replace the case. So disappointed!

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes you are spot on, John the dairy farmer did throw a chain. That was more about the chain being stretched and stuffed. 😂 I think I’d be dreaming if I thought I could pull a Tenere motor apart and fix it myself. 2 stroke motors are still hard work for me.👍

[@martinfretwell]

Thanks I'll get a guide the same as yours. Is it noisy and does the chain wear much with one fitted.thanks

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching, no it’s not noisy. It’s made from a type of plastic so in theory it should wear out before the chain does.👍

[@martinfretwell]

@@MileMunchinAdventures thanks I've ordered my acerbis guide .thanks for saving my engine

[@gabrielkopp2036]

The first thing I did was put a chain guide on my t7...cannot believe yamaha didn't put one on at the factory? The mounting hole are there

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes it is a surprise they didn’t put one on from new, I wouldn’t think it would cost them more that $50 a bike to do.

[@gabrielkopp2036]

@@MileMunchinAdventures I don't remember what I paid but it was less than 50 bucks with shipping

[@timmiller3576]

First thing I bought for my 2022.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Great move.👍

[@epiccubas837]

Have mine since day 1

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Very good decision👍🍺

[@AusMoto]

Man that sucks, I can see you've even got engine case protection, so it's unfortunate that you didn't have the guide! You live and learn! 😄

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes it was unlucky, the mounts that hold the case protection in place stick out too far from the engine case, they are definitely a weak point.🤷‍♂️

[@k_plax]

So it comes from factory without a chain guide as opposed to you having removed it for some reason? So this could happen to any Tenere? 😳

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes it comes from factory without a chain guide, very strange yes. An oversight from Yamaha I believe. The swing arm has the hole prepared so you can easily add one.

[@jayhopkins1337]

Ya I couldn't believe it when I got my T7 home and no chain guide 😮 what a cheap scape yamaha!! I ordered one for around 20$ unreal

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Totally agree, it doesn't make sense that an off road orientated motorbike doesn't come standard with a chain guide.

[@ogarzabello]

That little part must be stock, do you hear me, Yamaha?!!!

[@ianferrier235]

How did they fix it Rodney?replacement engine case, do you know what it cost? Thanks Rodney

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes they replaced the engine case, it cost just under $6000.

[@Jonathan-L]

@@MileMunchinAdventures Kudos to Shannons for laying their cards on the table and looking after you. By them doing this and you telling your story, it should be a win/win and if Shannons gain a bit of business as a result then I'm pleased for them, because they've proven that looking after their customers is a positive thing for everyone.

[@ikutiap5923]

​@@MileMunchinAdventures c???????????????

[@scottloftin1730]

I have never broken an engine case on any bike. Was your chain properly adjusted? How many miles on the chain? Been riding for 40 years and have never seen this happen. I own a T7. I cant find any other feedback on KZbin or the web that echos this is a recurring problem for the T7. Who sponsors you?

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Hello Scott, I'm not sponsored, the chain was relatively new, about 2,000kms on it, it was adjusted properly as you can see from the video. I guess accidents happen, it may've been a freak accident but it happened with the bike set up properly.

[@ZH2.]

So what's the solution? Aftermarket chain guide?

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Mate, clearly you didn’t watch the video if you are sending me this question, so I’ll save you some time, skip to 8.28 of the video timeline and the answer will reveal itself. 👍

[@ebiebrahimi7472]

Still thinking why the engine shield was so fragile .

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

It was more the engine mounts are so long which makes them vulnerable with excess side ways pressure. Thanks for watching.🤙👍

[@lifesneverboring]

Watched this, then went straight to ordering a chain guide...

[@durtyred86]

Damn... just looking at your reaction at about 39 seconds in let's me know whatever happened was kinda painful for you. 😬

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

I was much happier when the quick fix worked, now I’ve got a smile from ear to ear, fixed properly and running beautifully. Thanks for watching.👍

[@seatime674]

So what am I missing here, so the Tenere comes with no chain guide so the front sprocket is totally visible and unprotected, yet you put one on and it still broke?

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

I think you might want to watch the video again it’s pretty clear what happened. Thanks👍

[@seatime674]

​​@@MileMunchinAdventures No offense I don't have to be told to watch the video again to get an answer to my question as it's not that clear I did watch it, you have a chain guard and it snapped off the engine and a lot of people are on here saying it doesn't come with a chain guard that you have to buy one. So it looks to me you had a chain guard and even That broke, That was my question you just could have answered it for me..

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

@@seatime674 I didn’t have a chain guide on the bike, it is clear to see if you watch the video. The whole video is about the importance of having a chain guide, not a chain guard. If I’d had a chain guide the chance of my chain coming off and causing the damage it did would’ve greatly decreased. I think you are getting mixed up between what a chain guard is and what a chain guide is.

[@spacecowboy827]

Do you remember if your chain was properly adjusted? I feel like it might have been loose to pop off that easily. Just a theory

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

It was adjusted correctly before I left I’d just put new tyres on so did check it. I think a number of factors created the chain to come off, rough road, jump, landing on a rock etc. I still think the chain guide would’ve avoided it coming off and creating the issue though.

[@spacecowboy827]

I'm going to have to do a deep dive on this subject and seriously analyze how to prevent this situation. Thank you for bringing it to our attention! 🤙

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Alex, I know chains can still come off with a chain guide in place. I’ve had a few come off on my enduro bikes while riding rock gardens etc. Usually the chains are knocked off by a rock or stick. The chain guides do a great job though.👍

[@spacecowboy827]

@@MileMunchinAdventures a worthwhile investment without a doubt! I ride in Florida here in the US and we don't have a lot of rocks so I haven't encountered this situation yet. You make valid points. I guess it's just a situation of having a chain guide and hoping for the best.

[@javiereastwood2320]

Thank you for the video. I will say that you should care more about maintenances because it seems to me that your chain is rusty. You must clean it usually, and use Valvulin for it. Your chain is rusty

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Thanks for watching, my chain is not rusty it is a gold chain so it may look like rust. I can assure you it gets cleaned and oiled after every wash.👍

[@romgl4513]

Yep, that's off-road for you. Will brake an adventure bike. Will brake even a proper off-road machine. Adv bikes are less resilient and more expensive to repair. Heavy too, when you got to pick them up several times. But it's your choice, your money. Chain guard is nice, but there are so many soft spots, waiting to be compromised. Ride easy.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

True, they are heavy and therefore can be broken easily, the challenge is to not drop them.

[@eriknash8783]

I think the most important take away from this video is to carry metal epoxy in your tool kit. I've seen this listed as an important addition to your kit and always thought it was just a bit too extreme and kind of silly. I've just order 2 sticks of it. One for each bike kit

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

You make a very good point, the metal epoxy is a must for any adventure rider's kit, thanks for watching.

[@yamo450fx5]

So what’s the modification any know

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Watch the video and you’ll see.👍

[@darrylbrook5968]

You mean the chain guide is not standard??? Glad it didnt end up much worse.

[@graantmnz]

CHANGE came off ? doubt it ...

[@goatman86]

That is some really bad luck or poor engineering from Yamaha. Isn't the whole reason for that stud being there to protect the engine in case of chain braking?

[@dickiedogs727]

Fab vid

[@holden3083]

👍. Should have been covered under warranty by Yamaha. Just glad the bike didn’t seize and throw u over the bars…. Could have been worse….. for the premium price the charge for the T7 It would cost them $20-30 to put their chain guide on from factory, but they charge u around $70-100 more to put it on yourself. Pretty cheap & dirty coming from a company like Yamaha. They are a Japanese company after all. Just look at what Suzuki have done with the drz 400. That bike hasn’t been upgraded since 2000. Except for the upgraded criminal price now of $11800. For the exact same bike it was back in 2020. At $9500. & still can’t even put on led lights! The price companies a changing for their gear now is outrageous.

[@VBMW-tx6zg]

I'm glad you keep saying you believe because it is only what you believe. You wont need to respond to this because it’s what I think, and we are all just sharing what we think I know for a fact Ride adv ran Yamaha XT660s in their tour company for five years without a single chain-related problem, they never had a chain guide. They were credited with over 400,000 accumulated kilometers on that model with no problem. They only do off-road. My BMW 850 and other adventure bikes don’t have a chain guide. Take some ownership of what happened, and be careful of your maintenance like at the 3.39 min mark where it's clear you haven’t even staked the front sprocket nut for example! For your insurance to pay your claim it has to be accident damage, did you claim accident damage because it can’t be the manufacturer's fault because insurance doesn't pay that? Did you put in a false claim?

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Firstly thanks for watching my video, you are correct in pointing out what happened is what I believe. I'll respond to a couple of things you have written in your comment. Point No.1: Staking my front sprocket nut, this is not necessary because I use lock-tight on the thread, there is no chance the nut will come loose in fact when I've needed to undo the nut it is been a very difficult job to loosen. Point No. 2: Why are asking me to take ownership of what happened? And why do you think not staking my front sprocket nut has caused this issue, that is a very long bow to draw. Point No. 3: Insurance claim, the damage to the engine was caused by the accident while riding the bike. At no stage did I suggest it was the manufacturer's fault. Have you ever heard of a person putting in a claim to an insurance company claiming it was the manufacturers fault? Surely if I thought it was a manufacturers fault I would be speaking to Yamaha, not my insurance company. Point No. 4: Just because other bikes don't have chain guides and haven't had the same thing occur doesn't mean it can't or won't happen. Ask Greg Yager from Ride ADV if he has put the chain guide on any of his Tenere 700 bikes? I'll answer that for you, he has chain guides on his Tenere 700s. If he wasn't concerned about not having a chain guide then why would he put them on their bikes. Enjoy your riding and once again thanks for watching.

[@rideadvtoursandworkshop3178]

Hi @@MileMunchinAdventures we've just been told about this thread this morning and you've mentioned us so I feel we should respond. Firstly you are wrong about us, yes we do have chain guides on most (not all our 700's) why some and not others? Well, I'm not %100 convinced they need one as pointed out above we did nearly half a million kms on 660s with chain guides and NEVER had a chain drama. We did this when this thread first popped up ages ago. The sprocket nut, you are wrong about the Loctite, it doesn't hold on a 700 we know, we've seen it at the rallies. They are double-staked for good reason. That you can take to the bank. Your insurance claim, what accident? The chain coming off isn't an accident, you say it's because it doesn't have a chain guide that's not by accident. Further that's not something we care about but was interesting how you explained it Poorly maintained chains come off even with guides, and even last ride a guy had a stick jam in his guide that derailed the chain and caused it to come off. Unlucky maybe mate, some times shit just happens. At least it is going again, good luck with it all.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

@@rideadvtoursandworkshop3178 well hasn't this discussion turned into a beauty. Why are you suggesting my chain coming off is not an accident? surely you know it is not supposed to come off, this was a brand new chain, with brand new sprockets all checked before this ride. Why are you bothering to question my insurance claim, that is none of your business. I was able to provide photos and footage of the accident to the insurance company and in their opinion it was damage to my motorbike caused by the chain coming off. It might've been a freak accident or if you prefer an incident, but it happened. If you're not sure what the meaning of accident is then I've taken the liberty to copy and paste the meaning from a dictionary. "Accident meaning - an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury." Based on your understanding of an accident I'll use an example of what you are saying. You get a flat tyre while riding around a rocky corner which causes you to fall off and damage your bike, BUT it wasn't an accident because you probably installed the tyre and tube incorrectly or it wasn't maintained properly or you used the wrong tube for such a rough road or you had a road tyre on that was nearly bald. In my case the chain came off because of a number of elements meeting at the exact time, these include: I was riding a very rough road, my rear wheel landed on a rock after jumping the bike over a wash out. The sideways movement caused by landing on a rock combined with the compression of the rear suspension and swing arm, conspired to allow the chain to leave the sprocket. In my opinion (and it's only my opinion) in this situation my chain would've stayed on if I had a chain guide. With the front sprocket nut, clearly in this case my sprocket nut was not loose and had nothing to do with the chain coming off. FYI, you might want to proof read your last comment because I think you meant to say "we did nearly half a million kms on 660s WITHOUT chain guides and never had a chain drama." My comment to this is, that's great you had a good run, no issues and you can be thankful for that. But you said yourself, you're still not convinced the T7 needs a chain guide or not, but it's interesting you were convinced the 660 didn't need one. Why have you put chain guides on some of your T7s? Would if be because the motorbikes are different designs? From my experience, I'm convinced the T7 does need a chain guide and this is why I made the video. I'll use your double-staked comment as reason to back-up my statement. My T7 has done 57,000kms, the sprocket nut has had loctite on it instead of the double-staked method, it has never come loose, does that make my method right or wrong? It has 57,000kms of testing to suggest it works. I'm sure you're aware there are different strength loctite you can buy. You double-stake the sprocket nut for extra strength or support, the same reason I'm suggesting the chain guide is a good idea. This going backwards and forwards over what happened with my T7 is rubbish, you weren't there, I was, I know exactly what happened. I watch your videos and I don't agree with some of things you do or say, but I don't jump onto your You Tube channel and comment that I disagree. I know what I know and you know what you know. I'll still watch your videos and take what I can from them. You keep doing what you do and I'll keep doing what I do and we'll all ride our motorbikes and be happy.

[@rideadvtoursandworkshop3178]

@@MileMunchinAdventures Hey you bought me into this mate when you quoted something about us unresearched and incorrect. I won't even argue/explain your above comments. I saw the original video ages ago and didn't 100% agree but didn't comment because each to their own. Don't be afraid to comment on any of our videos we have multiple people, and multiple bikes and do huge mileages to arrive at our well-tested non-click-baited conclusions. Also, we value a second opinion even if it doesn't agree :). Have a nice day

[@rocketcitymoto2883]

The issue could have been that your sprockets are pretty well worn. The teeth look like nubs.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes that could’ve caused the issue if they were worn but they weren’t, they were like new.

[@rocketcitymoto2883]

Ah I see my mistake. The front sprocket looked worn, but when I watched the video again, I see now that the tips of the teeth are black so they were hard to see. Sorry about that!

[@PissTakeProduction]

I would of traded it in and not told anyone.

[@PissTakeProduction]

P.S that was a joke. I'm surprised not covered under warranty.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Yes I figured it was a joke, my metal putty fix was a little hard to disguise. 😜

[@PissTakeProduction]

@@MileMunchinAdventures lol

[@hoozleup]

@@MileMunchinAdventures rattle can black- factory finish! 🙂

[@bjooppeg]

Maybe better just buy a KTM then.

[@MileMunchinAdventures]

Not sure that solves anything, I have a number of KTMs and they all have their known issues and faults.

[@bjooppeg]

@@MileMunchinAdventures That's why I have 2 x GAS GAS 😅 1 EC 300 1 EC 350F Just kidding, most important is that we are out on our bike