TENSION between Bradley Beal and the Suns?! 👀 + Kings and Pistons heat up 🔥 | The Hoop Collective

[@nread8]

Kings segment: Get every detail about the personnel in those games incorrect, fail to substantively cover what happened in those games, quickly move to other teams and trades. Why even bother talking about teams like the Kings if you're clearly not watching their games?

[@MaduPlaysGames]

Listening to them not get the details right was painful. It’s like they’re deliberately ignorant.

[@Mungo13]

@@MaduPlaysGames ok, having just listened to it. Clarification for you guys: 1) Embiid did not play that game 2) Ja did not play in their game 3) Steph DID play vs them and they still were smoked by the kings 4) Fox has been hurt since the Grizzlies game most national media figures don't pay that close attention to teams like the kings, unfortunately

[@joeno-say5504]

​@@Mungo13also glossing over the fact that Fox got injured from a nasty fall. "Glute injury" makes it sound like garden variety soreness

[@Aaleyahsmom]

@@Mungo13Exactly, us not having Fox was huge. Wish this was made after our win in the Garden without Fox.

[@robertpalmatier2699]

Keegan Murray sat out a couple games and once he came back Fox was out for 2 games. They had injuries and so did we and a coaching change.

[@Galactic-Donuts]

Nothing beats being in the office listening to Hoop Collective - Love the segment on the Pistons, we finally getting some love! 😤

[@michaeladams6042]

To be fair, it's the first time in a long time that they deserve some love.

[@Galactic-Donuts]

@@michaeladams6042 frick u dawg 🤣

[@cbluvfitness]

Go Detroit 💙❤️

[@Galactic-Donuts]

@@cbluvfitness 5 in a row 😎😎

[@charlesmarshall3362]

Jalen Duran is nice! I think if we had him on the roster we would be legit title contenders. That’s my personal opinion

[@brewskibrew1682]

Windy and Bontemps need Couple’s Therapy

[@eskewisaiah]

Bontemps is always moody

[@SquidysTents]

Windy good. Bontemps just need counseling

[@AlvarGeesusTheCreator]

The voices will put you to sleep but the dept of context is elite

[@kyshro]

Sacramento on 🔥

[@mr.mycity313]

Here for all the Pistons content!!!!

[@LivinProoof]

Warriors got smacked by the heat the next game as well. Idk why y'all gotta constantly drag the kings through the mud. Fox wasn't in two of the games and if it wasn't for the guy in the middle it wouldn't even have been mentioned.

[@improvisedlogic]

Haters gonna hate.

[@jgates9786]

There's simply no way that you can't imagine why people would be down on the Kings atm

[@MrOctober44]

​@@jgates9786for being on a five game winning streak. Tough expectations.

[@jgates9786]

@@MrOctober44 Realistically, they're just going to have to show people a lot more before anybody takes them seriously

[@LivinProoof]

@@jgates9786 Keon Ellis is the key to this team. 100% He's elite.

[@Jonathan-xt2rm]

Bradley Beal to the Steelers or the Ravens!

[@MikandaMaboto]

Im folded like a lawn chair... LOL

[@dasfonzier]

Browns will trade deshaun for him

[@ChristianNagle]

@@dasfonzierIshbia would probably give him a max extension

[@wadejames1207]

Jackson don't want him 😂

[@zacht2806]

How about Beal as Jets head coach

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Hoop Collective: We need Windy + MacMahon + guest.

[@eskewisaiah]

Bontemps is the new Bill Simmons

[@Jaywrites23]

Kirk Goldsberry would be perfect

[@MikeSmith-lh5fq]

The show would really suffer without Tim MacMahon providing some levity to cut the tension

[@Jaywrites23]

@@eskewisaiah that’s disrespectful to bill simmons by a mile

[@sebastianmarquez4200]

ESPN needs to do the right thing and get the pistons on tv. Their games are always entertaining

[@Deburrus]

Definitely!

[@davidthompson9779]

Hell naw

[@sebastianmarquez4200]

@@davidthompson9779 casual

[@Shortballa11]

Did the Pistons finally make the pod????

[@Galactic-Donuts]

WE ARE LONG OVERDUE

[@Isaiahonthecloud]

I never clicked so fast man! CADE FINALLY GETTING RESPECT

[@Galactic-Donuts]

@@Isaiahonthecloud 🥳🥳

[@wileyschmitt]

Incoming All Star selection for Cade!

[@Galactic-Donuts]

@@wileyschmitt He did the hoopin for us - Now its our time to vote him in!

[@brianking7757]

In addition to Bickerstaff deserving credit for the Pistons play,this to me shows just how surprisingly (to me) bad coach Williams was last year

[@lexjim9949]

He tried his best to ruin jaden ivey and was obsessed with playing killian Hayes btw worst piston player by a mile the last 4 years

[@rodh-ww6ii]

He sh*t the bed as coach in the finals . Non adjustments

[@AnthonyJones-j6g]

​@@lexjim9949ever

[@Earl_E_Burd]

12:34 Interrupt him mid-sentence to "correct" him with the very thing he was about to say. Imagine dealing with that regularly.

[@t.dubz76]

that beal contract is from washington with love😢😢

[@TheOLsnaps]

Both teams are idiots neither should be proud. One for giving the contract, and the other for agreeing to take on that contract.

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

@@TheOLsnapsno nba player in the right mind is going refuse a contract with that much money. Beal did what’s right for him and his family but I agree the no trade clause was unnecessary

[@GurtonBuster07]

@@VinnieRodrigues0hindsight is 20/20 Beal was the NBA scoring leader when he signed that contract that ntc is just idiotic tho

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

@@GurtonBuster07 yeah ntc wasn’t needed imo

[@thewaybacktou]

Idk why the 2 other dudes are so argumentative

[@Jeremy-ot6pb]

they dont like each other it happens every episode and it's usually bontempts fault

[@eswa49]

This podcast always feel more like a debate than conversation. I especially don't enjoy Bontempts.

[@natedunn3933]

… they are friends and they debate. It’s going to be ok I promise. 😂

[@MikeSmith-lh5fq]

A podcast would probably be somewhat of a failure if the hosts did not argue at all

[@Earl_E_Burd]

@@MikeSmith-lh5fq A world exists outside of ESPN

[@Liam301987]

Everybody knows how good Beal is & what his contract situation is. Him coming off the bench doesn't devalue him at all. Their roster is poorly constructed, there's no point having all 3 on the court at the same time they are more functional this way. People aren't stupid, do you think they'll think he's worse just because he's not int he starting line-up?

[@echofawks1270]

exactly i see this as strengthening the bench, if he could put the pride aside....

[@CaseyLynn-i7u]

Owner thinks just get stars and it works. It doesn't. Brooker has never been as good as some think he is. He worst games of the year have been in the playoffs in close out games. DK just puts up numbers but has it really helped his teams win? Only GS who was stacked at the time. Beal gets numbers and his teams have always lost. So empty stats. None of their big three are worth being called big. They don't win when it matters all three get their stats in loses game after game. Sad for Sun fans over the next 10+ years there is no chance of the Suns ever being good. There is no assets or money. They are tied to Brook who never been that good. Beal who's numbers have always been empty. And DK who puts up numbers but never seems to win unless the team carries him like GS.

[@MrOctober44]

Yup. The three of them have never played well together. Solves two issues.

[@pje3zy]

Embid did in fact NOT play against the Kings, love how this guy talks like he watches the games

[@dwaynelee1789]

Great recap as Always. At the game yesterday V Charlotte Beal sat next to KD on the bench for about 4 minutes. They did not say a word to each other.

[@jakesnyder6264]

They literally didn’t know who played in any of these games. Bon temps corrected windhorst and was totally incorrect

[@DrJF_YT]

“The schedule has been light, but still” is kinda disrespectful when you consider the Kings were also missing a starter in 4 of 5 games

[@CaseyLynn-i7u]

these were the same types of game they were losing now they are winning. You need to beat the teams you should beat. The Kings have done that. GS is trash you beat them. You beat team missing player great you should.

[@LivinProoof]

Exactly, and not only that, their statistics and analytics are up substantially across the board, but not only that, the eye test SCREAMS this team is way better after Mike Brown, (but this podcast wouldn't know as they clearly don't watch Kings games). Keon Ellis is a gem, but Mike Brown wasn't smart enough to realize it and loved giving him DNPs. Defensive minded coach btw

[@tin-n6u]

sacramento love thx windy

[@LivinProoof]

Far from it. They just disrespected the Kings the entire segment.

[@tin-n6u]

@ bro i typed my comment soon as they started talking and then windy made like five mistakes about kings matchups its good sac needs more accolades to truly earn

[@Deburrus]

Finally Detroit getting some love ‼️ let’s go 💪🏾

[@sweetchillyphillyc9383]

Nothing beats that opening theme.

[@toyrizo]

How are you on ESPN and don’t know anything before you broadcast. What are you going to say about the Kings win against Boston. That they didn’t have Larry Bird?

[@dubc2022]

I wouldn't wanna be somewhere if I think I was the problem or if I thought they wanted me out.

[@robertrock16]

7:41 everybody wants to talk about Beal, KD, and bud…. But Booker been the real problem. The young “superstar” shouldn’t be in and out the lineup and barely impacting the game when he’s there😂

[@seanwest9080]

I agree Beal isnt the problem. But to say Book is the problem is wild. KD needs to take care of the ball better and nurk is unplayable. Our physicality or lack of is the number 1 issue. Teams are putting up 10+ more shots per game than suns. No bueno.

[@robertrock16]

@ I agree those are all issues, but a 28 year old in his prime should help overcome those deficiencies to win some games. Not be averaging his lowest ppg and fg % since his 2nd year. KD is by far the best player on the team this year… can book at least make it close? 😂

[@prirush8800]

They have ZERO above the rim players, thats why suns really suck. Dallas has couple of guys that dive to the rim, to go along with luka n kryie

[@bluealvey]

This.

[@robertrock16]

@@prirush8800 still missing the point. Nobody talks about all the Nugget’s flaws. Why? Because the 29 year old mvp caliber player plays like it on an almost nightly basis so they’re winning.

[@masonmears5464]

I was just about to comment that, “This kinda sounds like the Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr situation.”Beat me to it. 😂

[@dubc2022]

Booker isn't that good, if his shot isn't falling, then he's irrelevant. He doesn't have that burst to the hole where he's gonna dunk on somebody. He's too soft.

[@wileyschmitt]

The 'biggest' reason for the Cavs upswing is the progression of Evan Mobley.

[@brandonsaunders5892]

Thank you for finally calling out Booker!!!! Devin Booker has been playing horrible!! For some reason everyone loves to defend him idk why

[@Jeremy-ot6pb]

nobody really defends him they just don't care enough to criticize him cause the suns suck

[@Fighterfan69]

This was likely discussion from yesterday. Booker scored 39 last night yet, they lost a Hornets team that was 7 - 27. That's inexcusable! From what I saw last night, they were outrebounded yet again on the offensive boards. More shot opportunities for the other team. 'After scoring 25 against the 76ers, Beal scored only 10pts (From what I recall) The Suns definitely have issues. Whether or not it's Trade talks or other things. They may not even make the play-in at this rate. After a great start at 8 - 1, I'm not sure what's happening despite the early injuries to KD, Booker, and Beal. O'neal is now injured nad has been a huge contributor.

[@davidlove5232]

Embiid did not play Mr Bontemps

[@Nor_CALi]

Chris Webber played 35 minutes…. Oh wait he’s retired . Ok Rick Adleman got these guys on a heater . Anyway I get paid for this insight

[@ratedRblazin]

Never thought I'd see someone with a bigger forehead than Peyton Manning, but here we are 0:25

[@MrANDY6992]

lol son as I read this that forehead popped up

[@Braktooth]

I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bontemps, but he's totally right about Orlando.

[@wmbriggz]

Really like the painting and the map on the walls.l. That other background needs upgrades.

[@doughansen9550]

I wish The Ringer's Group Chat podcast posted as often as Hoop Collective. Finding it hard to put up with Windy's inept pod hosting skills & the arguments between him and Bontemps. Podcasts are supposed to be informative sure but we should also expect chemistry and and interesting conversation from the hosts, not tension and old men bickering about nothing.

[@boricua007x]

Magic at 22-16 with all the injuries is insane. Paolo is about to come back

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

Who woulda thunk surrounding booker with an aging durant and a guy with chronic back issues wouldnt work

[@davidbelanger9952]

Bam, Booker and Steph all came back from the olympics gassed

[@MrOctober44]

Which was totally selfish of Curry to go in the first place

[@cochisechicago]

That's the result of all the terrible guaranteed deals. A role player can have a no trade clause. Lol

[@Jeremy-ot6pb]

blame the wizards and also bradley beal's hand injury a few years ago he was the 2nd leading scorer 2 years in a row, but then injured his shooting hand and he just hasn't been the same elite scorer since

[@bigguy_collectibles]

Not the makeup department 👀

[@daweeza42]

Exactly smh lol dam I said the same thing when he said it

[@ice8erg]

Underrated statement 😂

[@JGDRConsulting]

There’s no guarantee that highly-paid players consistently perform at the highest level though more often than not “average” players!

[@josepharmstrong5525]

Kings hate is real

[@jammaldonado9820]

Letting Chris Paul walk was a huge mistake he was a big part off there runs

[@ojoj5194]

his did nothin with the warriors and does not much with spurs bro. i watch the games

[@booksunwalker5051]

He got old and was trash.

[@user-ov7uv3wx6i]

Those pick swaps that the Wizards got are essentially worthless, useless, and will not be exercised.

[@GhostdanceCalaveras]

Brian Windhorst needs to tell Pat Riley that he should never devalue his players

[@RJHunter-e6i]

Apparently, the MSRP on Super Star is 50 Million. It's a 4 year lease.

[@hungdang80]

Windy trying his best to discount the kings streak. Hater

[@patrickjamesstaples1599]

Windy is such an old queen, I love it. McMahon is like your chill uncle and Bontemps never misses. thanks guys for keeping me up to date when i can't catch games and helping me fall asleep lol.

[@rodrigoroblesoteiza8006]

Will someone get Brian Windhorst a league pass sunscription so he can actually watch our kings games? C'mon man!!

[@JK-mh8ol]

I sprained my calf and couldn't play ball for almost 5 months. Grade 2

[@GibranCamus-kr2dc]

9:20 I have always maintained that legit superteams are teams that operate at a superior level. The more recent phenomenon of big 3s is not a superteam-it is merely a superstar-led team. There can be some overlap, but the former is something like the 80s Lakers or the 90s Bulls or 10s Warriors. Sum greater than its parts and such. Coaching and front office must be phenomenal, too. The latter? Simply acquiring 3 established stars at the expense of any chemistry, player development, etc. This iteration is only a "superteam" insofar as it makes for a ready-made narrative that ends in spectacular failure. The Suns should have seen this. The Nets should have seen this. The Sixers should have seen this. In all those instances, that one extra guy (Beal, Harden x 2) leads to gutting your roster and losing any sense of team identity. Anyway, just my nebulously articulated thoughts on some deep-seated feelings. Seems to me folks look at the KD Warriors and fail to realize that the team was already a superteam. They should be looking at the Heatles from year 1 to the back-to-back championships and see that it's the guys like Shane Battier and Mike Miller and Rashard Lewis and UD et. al who need to be there to elevate the parts to a greater sum.

[@Tony-k9i]

Imagine wimby as a point guard in junior high

[@jsap13]

This is new.... In ESPN video actually has 2 guys know and talk basketball instead of rumor and drama.

[@jakesnyder6264]

They didn’t know who played in any of these games.

[@fAnaticZpodcast]

As much as it’s not his fault, Beal also has to realize his consistency, injury rep, AND contract have not even remotely sniffed any worth.

[@spacecadet3879]

Bontemps is so lazy in his commentary. All he ever says is Blank isn’t playing good enough. Any time a team isn’t performing well it’s that some star isn’t playing well enough. Talk about 1st grade level commentary

[@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez]

Seriously. Bro has a “copy and paste” answer for any scenario or player

[@sly0422]

His voice also is like nails on a chalkboard

[@SquidysTents]

“Mehhhh mehhhhh mehhhh. I’m so angry. I hate this. I hate that. This player sucks. That team sucks. Mehhh mehhhhh mehhhh.” - Tim Bontemps

[@kraw3026]

You want a thesis statement about analyzing a player from the last few days😂😂😂 you want them to say more than their eyes see...its simple playerX isnt playing well enough. No more no less

[@MayorWilliesSideChick4prez]

@@kraw3026 yes bro we want a thesis. Because there’s only a dry copy paste repetitive answer or a thesis. Those are the only 2 options when speaking on things. You got it though. You must be very easy to please with mediocrity in every aspect of life if these are your standards for someone getting paid large amounts of money to provide analysis. I’m jealous of you tbh, I wish I could accept below average while smiling like you can lol

[@Flava_Dave]

Talking about Doug Christie mean mugging and not being turned into an emotionless head coach... GOOD! I want that in my coach right now. This team needed it desperately. Who tf says thats a bad thing??

[@Eddi3L33]

So what you’re trying to say is the Phoenix Suns can trade D Book for Jimmy Butler and assets. That would be a wild take.

[@robdavis8929]

Beal was behind the 8 ball when he got traded. How many 3rd options averaged 25 a game in nba history!? NONE

[@cleanfresh6718]

No one cares

[@BrutusJrThe3rd]

To this day, I have no clue why Phoenix traded for him. Of all people

[@charlesmarshall3362]

It’s wild how much hate the Kings get from mainstream media 😂 Deebo fits perfect on the Kings roster. He’s a certified baller and get buckets 🪣 🪣

[@lionelreal502]

Let’s go Detroit

[@ianr1318]

No Bob Petit reference.

[@gododgers081]

The problem is that you have three prolific scorers and none of them play a lick of defense. That is their biggest problem. Miami will not take Bradley Beal because he lacks any type of defensive skill. He does hold all the cards and he’s probably not gonna go anywhere for three years. The Suns made their bed and now they have to lie in it. They might have to trade Devin Booker and Kevin Durant to get some picks to rebuild cause Bradley Beal is gonna hold them up.

[@cesarlastres]

Sounds crazy but that's exactly what I'd do. Trade Book and KD and rebuild around Beal. Chances are he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild and asks for a trade. Then, you can start from scratch because the West is too packed. No tweaking will save this team. They have to blow it up.

[@CalvinChan-yn4hi]

Been listening for a long time, I still don’t understand what USWB means

[@Quanyouhim]

Y'all reaching for it now 😂😂 we get it

[@acforsale5802]

this is a good discussion with a lot of fact checking. unlike stephen a and mad dog

[@Mr.Majestic77]

There is no tension. The only tension is created by the media lol.

[@Earl_E_Burd]

"Tension" these dudes are famous, in-shape millionaires, hangin out, travelin' to the major cities. I'm guessin' things are aight.

[@armandotorres-iy1cw]

Why the Media keeps spinning this as TENSION......if the man wanna stay in Phoenix dam let him be. Butler fked up that's his problem....

[@heisenberg2966]

When You have an Owner, who “ Star-Gazes “, Your Team becomes Nothing more than “ A Big 3 “, and a Bunch of Cast-Offs.

[@sampeter192]

Kevin Huerter looks like a young windy

[@cocomo111]

The Kings segment was just atrocious. Got every part of who played wrong and failed to mention the Kings were without Keegan or Fox in those games.

[@mattwhitely1067]

More awards to bet on

[@Sportsbetguide]

No one can popo a winning streak like the uswb 🤣🤣🤣

[@davidwheward8081]

Bradley Beal to the Nets for Ben Simmons , Ben Simmons to the Heat and then Jimmy Butler to the Suns.

[@kene6748]

This actually makes sense to me. Expiring contracts plus Ben could possibly be rejuvenated by the Miami Heat.

[@KNByam]

Why would they heat want Ben Simmons with that contract?

[@pimptdathegoat8319]

Good job we’re hiring u to NBA 🎉

[@KNByam]

​@kene6748 Rejuvenated? This is what frustrating. Have you not been paying attention?

[@philevans1673]

Beal waiving his no trade to go to the Nets is hilarious, been laughing for 10 minutes

[@bonecold4387]

Kings just dominared a healthy Boston without Fox. Talk about that. I'm sure it was because of something Boston did wrong, not what the Kings done right.

[@mattwhitely1067]

Beal is a starter just on the suns he is the same player but beals shooting splits are elite.. he doesnt get enough shots and had too many injury

[@joshsanders2820]

Remember KD said the media around LeBron was toxic? Everywhere he goes it’s some ish lol. And I don’t wanna hear anybody say oh how is it his fault. Save it

[@ojoj5194]

Knicks fans here, well tell us something kd did bad bro? he still the best player on suns team. 8-1 before injury aint see u talkin now the are losing here comes the haters. 29-7-7 try again

[@joshsanders2820]

@@ojoj5194 bro shut up everywhere he goes it’s turmoil who said anything about his play ?

[@sting114]

Nets want three first and two swaps from the suns to take on Beal contract

[@Shortballa11]

Suns dont even have that many assets lol

[@MrOctober44]

Nets already have all of The Suns picks, lol

[@gambitx7777]

How dare you stop bon bon from talking about the wizards! They have some really decent young talent. Team building incoming lol.

[@virgolife8832]

Beal back to Washington for kuzma and Poole run it

[@brandonthompson8039]

Was that not Booker that scored 40pts last night?? Definitely looked like it

[@Shortballa11]

and still shooting 43% and not gonna make the all star game lol

[@MonaM086]

I just feel so sad for Book, it seems that the goalposts for him change every time!! This standards are wild, you´re saying he's a bonafide all star when in 2023 he wasn't even considered and he was having an insane season. When he was younger "he wasn't a winning player" like whaat?? LeBron James said it best: "Devin Booker is the most disrespected player on the league" and years later STILL IS.

[@CaseyLynn-i7u]

And he plays like a second-tier player thinking he's a top tier. He a bit over average that's it. One thing you know Brooker will vanish or get hurt in the playoffs. That's his whole career. Coming up small or getting hurt.

[@MonaM086]

@@CaseyLynn-i7u stop repeating what espn or media says and watch some games.

[@garygavaldon]

Just trashed Kings 5 game winning streak 24:22

[@robdavis8929]

Subs have an easy fix but Devin booker refuses to play a less ball dominant position. Tyus at point Beal at shooting guard book at sf. Brad is smaller than book and has trouble guarding bigger players but book won’t do it cause he doesn’t want to play defense

[@carljefferson7802]

Trade Book for Butler, Hero and as many picks as you can get out of pat Riley. Nurk, Kd, Butler, Allen, and Hero ain’t bad

[@mr.mycity313]

Lets go Detroit!!!

[@RJHunter-e6i]

Peeps gettin chirpy about Beal not performing gotta understand sumthing... You can buy 3 sports cars... but you can only drive them one at a time. You'll find the Low key practical car, the truck, and the suv are the ones you actually want to drive and use all of the time... and there is something about those teams at the track with too many cool cars. And tesla comes into production and is it game over? The one whom rides a bicycle to the store, to work, and to old age... is probably faster than them all. Is it just me... or are parking lots more crowded than they used to be?

[@jeremyjazwinski6349]

Bontempts aint no ' Lowe' illl yell ya that nieghther is Windy

[@RizzMafia_]

Proof reading is fundamental.

[@christophersmith7565]

@@RizzMafia_ i think that’s just how they spell

[@CaseyLynn-i7u]

The old saying. The only thing you can control is your effort on defense. You may not hit shots that night because that happens. But you can control defense every night. OKC couldn't throw it in the ocean in the cup game, but they did still defend. You give up 97 most nights you win. I do think OKC loses to the Cavs not because the Cavs are better or OKC is bad. It's just time to lose. You can't win them all. Clear OKC and the Cavs are the 2 bests teams. One loses tonight. I think it's OKCs time just because no matter how good you are you lose sometimes. If OKC win it would be huge for sure. But I don't see it because it's just time to lose a game. And it's no shame losing to a very good Cavs team on the road.

[@Jaywrites23]

17:54 JJJ is the Grizzlies 2nd best player, Bane is 3rd

[@ratpiss]

Does windy actually watch basketball?

[@freeman0048]

Ja morant uses his most improved player award for target practice

[@tomwanner5786]

I'm a pistons fan and i agree with the most improved thing. But Powell over Cade? He's a good player but cmon. Cade is literally the creator of everything for the Pistons. He not only has to score, with Ivey out, he has to create shots for everyone except maybe Tobias. Cade has always been good, the team around him was garbage.

[@bmoore745]

Honestly Beal is a better player not scorer than booker but he got drafted there and younger that’s basically what it is

[@3O1G3]

Cade definitely top 10 in the east Deeeeetroit basketball

[@Goldenstateguy]

A bulging disk in the back sounds crazy

[@noodlesunreal]

I am sure there are other things behind the scenes at ESPN we do no not know, but how is Bontemps a better analyst (or more valuable) than Lowe? (maybe he is just cheaper) But this gentleman is a fountain of negativity and the lack of charisma does not help, and as mentioned somewhere else here, bad chemistry and bickering does not help this pod.... in my opinion, respectfully.

[@CanAdrianAngelo]

Beal for Butler at this point 😂