Tensor G4 Details Out - New Processor for Google Pixel 9 Series

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

The pixel 10 when they have TSMC making tensor will be fascinating and I hope when we really see what tensor is all about.

[@passivevii4052]

Cry more still good phone

[@MrMackievelli]

Google is lazy with their designs. They seem to only care about the tpu and would rather just cut and paste the rest. I just don't see it being much better despite having a better foundry.

[@bolle666]

@@MrMackievelli They have superior security features that you wouldn't understand.

[@MrMackievelli]

@@bolle666 That has nothing to do with whether or not TSMC or Samsung is the foundry. I honestly don't know why you brought this up. At the end of the day the core design from Google is a copy and paste. The tpu as I said is what they care about. Their security doesn't help them compete in raw power, it doesn't make games run better.

[@bolle666]

@@MrMackievelli Buy a toy and play your games on there.

[@toyotagaz]

Just waiting for Tensor G5

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yes, tsmc remains King. It's interesting though because now that Google and apple are using so much of their capacity, it looks like Samsung has to pivot to mediatek for their tablets. And you got to wonder about the future exynos. They don't seem to have any customers anymore outside of their own wearables and some of their own phones and the a series. Even pixel ditched them for their wearables going with Qualcomm for their smartwatch.

[@shmchuck]

It must be remembered that even if TSMC produces SOCs, Google will still be the one that design them. The G5 tensor may not be the breakthrough fans are hoping for.

[@phritza]

​@@shmchuck I agree. Pixels have never been about raw power.

[@tdb0218]

@@shmchuck Atleast the heating will be gone

[@shmchuck]

@@tdb0218 iPhone 15 Pro series has also SOC manufactured by TSMC and it's constantly warm and battery life is much worse than 13 Pro series

[@Manuel-rl6um]

I hope performance is a bit better than the leaks showed, but if not, I hope they really improved in efficiency of the processor and the modem.

[@xslvrxslwt]

lmao u wish

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Efficiency is a non-existent word in the Samsung dictionary. Because all Tensor chip until now is just a bit modified Exynos, it's also manufactured by Samsung..

[@Manuel-rl6um]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st latest Samsung S24 Exynos chip improved quite a bit, getting closer to the Snapdragon than ever.

[@jg14gerhard_bar]

not a "bit better", it needs to be A LOT better to even bother warranting that pending price increases. paying for 2021 performance in 2024/25 is insanity. at that point just get a Oneplus 12 for cheaper yet with 4x the storage

[@SussySmurf]

​@@TamasKiss-yk4st Not necessarily a modified Exynos chip. Only the fabrication and the Exynos modems (which are external anyway) are the same. But even if the 2400 is not on par with the 8 Gen 3 and 9300, it will still be better than the upcoming Tensor G3 by 2 generations. Update: I meant the G4.

[@himay333]

I'll stick to my 6A until the G5 chips hit. Battery degradation hasn't really been a thing yet. If it does become one before the G5 models ship, I'll find a cheap 7A or 8A.

[@Manuel-rl6um]

I have the 6a as well and very happy with it. I was thinking the same as you, not upgrading until Pixel 10...however, if there are good trade-in deals, I might get the Pixel 9 Pro or 9 Pro XL for several reasons: - UWB for location, digital keys, etc - Better efficiency when on the go - 5G (my Pixel 6a doesn't have 5G with my carrier in my country) - Better video - Better zoom photos - Love the new design of the Pixel 9 and 9 Pro - Faster charging - Wireless charging - Face unlock - Ultrasonic fingerpring - Much better screen (brighter, 120hz) It's likely that the first TSMC chip by Google won't be the best or will have some kind of weakness, and they will refine it with the G6.

[@himay333]

@@Manuel-rl6um yeah. I don't use 5G on it even though it works where I'm at. Just too big of a hit to the battery. If the new modem is significantly better, I might look into a 9. Good luck with whichever path you take. 👍🏻

[@Manuel-rl6um]

@@himay333 thanks, same to you!

[@gustavohenriquecarneiro5435]

Very underwhelming for a phone that will go on sale for 999 USD, it's basically the performance of an Snapdragon 7+ Gen 3 or Dimensity 8300. I hope Google gets punished by low sales.

[@andyH_England]

Pixels have never been about performance, and although that is more of an excuse than what Google really wants, we have to accept that until the G5, this is a big negative for some. I assumed the G4 would be off the same fabs as the Exynos 2400, which was a better process, but I am unsure now. However, my main issue with my P8P is the modem, so if that is a lot better and we get good deals and trade-ins, then I will upgrade to the P9 XL version (45-watt charging, ultrasonic FP sensor, 16GB RAM and hopefully better cooling).

[@xionpentagast]

Tell that to Nintendo, they've never had The Best Performance. However the pixels have always been about adding Ai enhancements to the user experience of which I'm sure they'll have.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

It's also dicey because the G5 is going to be made by tsmc so anyone that's really focused on performance might want to wait. Although frankly, I don't find it to be a big deal if I have the best chip on the planet. To me chips have been snappy and fast going all the way back to like mid-rangers in 2020 like the 765. Until we can play AAA games, the difference between an 8 gen 3 and 865 to me are pretty much unnoticeable.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

​@@andyH_EnglandRight and I have no problem with that. But I do think they're a little disappointed with the Samsung modem and efficiency, which is why they're ditching Samsung in 2025 in favor of tensor who's made probably the most efficient chips in recent years like the apple chips and the 8 Gen 2 and the 8 gen 3 and the 865 and 855 Samsung of course makes the tensor and the x notes and the 888 and 8g1. And they were kind of disastrous.

[@xslvrxslwt]

​@@andyH_EnglandYeah, it was never about performance but the record breaking number of bugs @ each android iteration!

[@mikldude9376]

I have the 8 pro, there is certainly room for improvement in a few areas , the chipset in the 8 is ok , but at times it does delay while processing stuff , where other flagships with more horsepower just get it done almost instantly. If it is only an incremental upgrade , I’ll probably stay with the 8 pro until the 10 pro.

[@katinasoutherland7693]

I think the 8pro is the best looking pixel pro phone ever made! No way id trad it in for a 9pro

[@himanshuchamoli8269]

Google lagging way behind competition

[@tonysheerness2427]

They produce cheap usable goods.

[@leophoenix1452]

No... They are ahead.. Ypur benchmark apps does not have a way to measure the performance of the TPU and thats why you underrate the chip...

[@gustavohenriquecarneiro5435]

Actually, their TPU/NPU is very slow compared to Apple, Qualcomm and recent Intel and AMD processors. What can't be measured is the software secret sauce that they can optimize for the chip.

[@leophoenix1452]

@@gustavohenriquecarneiro5435 its just enough to run the software sauce they need it to... They have always emphasized that they are not in a hardware performance competition... But we know when TSMC fabs tensor chips show up they would have to conform a lil bit to the performance arms wrestling especially for future proofing software support for their mobile devices

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

It's just Samsung's s***** foundry. Thankfully for 2025 they've contracted tsmc to make tensor so there should be a huge increase in efficiency.

[@realVampyToast]

I will be waiting for Pixel 10 or X whatever it will be

[@that_colin_guy]

When the P9 comes out, could be time for the triumphant return of Spedtest G to put the 6, 7, 8 and 9 head to head.

[@brixter11]

I'm surprised Google is adding a ray tracing variant of the Mali this year. Everyone else has support for it now.

[@Winnetou17]

So why are you surprised ? Isn't this the norm, the expected thing, for Google to join the ranks in terms of a major functionality ?

[@perperikis5501]

Are they ? Cause the GPU is exactly the same as G3.

[@sammyt3514]

Thanks for the detailed comparison. It seems like the Tensor G5 is the one to get since it'll do away with the hardware that's currently holding the Tensor SoC back, especially in terms of signal strength and power consumption (I know it also lags behind the comletition in benchmark tests but that's not a huge deal for me since it's already plenty fast enough for my use based on my brief experience with the G4 in the Pixel 8).

[@RogueHetero]

My experience with the pixel 7 pro and 8 pro have both been underwhelming to downright disappointing at times. It doesn't look promising for the pixel 9 either. With recent surveys indicating many pixel users are not happy with their current pixels and are looking to switch I think this incremental upgrade will spell trouble for long term pixel sales. It's going to take a while to get those dissatisfied ex-pixel customers to come back

[@Dion27375]

My Pixel 8 Pro experiences bad performance while scrolling through many apps. The scrolling animation stutters which results in choppy animations. I hope this problem will be fixed with the upcoming android 15 release. I really like the Pixel lineup but it's really hard for me to recommend it to someone if there are substantial problems like these. Hardware and software come from Google so why is it that the performance feels like a cheap entry level Smartphone. Even mid range Samsung phones feel smoother than my P8P. Many Apps across the system have scrolling lags, even Google Apps. Fitbit App, KZbin, Spotify, the Google Feed, Google News, WhatsApp, Kleinanzeigen, Google Fotos (Especially in the newer memories tab), and many more experience this issue. There are two open Threads in the Android Issue Tracker where many users report similar issues yet Google doesn't seem to care.

[@Dion27375]

My Pixel 8 Pro experiences bad performance while scrolling through many apps. The scrolling animation stutters which results in choppy animations. I hope this problem will be fixed with the upcoming android 15 release. I really like the Pixel lineup but it's really hard for me to recommend it to someone if there are substantial problems like these. Hardware and software come from Google so why is it that the performance feels like a cheap entry level Smartphone. Even mid range Samsung phones feel smoother than my P8P. Many Apps across the system have scrolling lags, even Google Apps. Fitbit App, KZbin, Spotify, the Google Feed, Google News, WhatsApp, Kleinanzeigen, Google Fotos (Especially in the newer memories tab), and many more experience this issue. There are two open Threads in the Android Issue Tracker where many users report similar issues yet Google doesn't seem to care.

[@unnikrishnanharish4658]

Why was it disappointing?

[@Dion27375]

@@RogueHetero My Pixel 8 Pro experiences bad performance while scrolling through many apps. The scrolling animation stutters which results in choppy animations. I hope this problem will be fixed with the upcoming android 15 release. I really like the Pixel lineup but it's really hard for me to recommend it to someone if there are substantial problems like these. Hardware and software come from Google so why is it that the performance feels like a cheap entry level Smartphone. Even mid range Samsung phones feel smoother than my P8P. Many Apps across the system have scrolling lags, even Google Apps. Fitbit App, KZbin, Spotify, the Google Feed, Google News, WhatsApp, Kleinanzeigen, Google Fotos (Especially in the newer memories tab), and many more experience this issue. There are two open Threads in the Android Issue Tracker where many users report similar issues yet Google doesn't seem to care.

[@Dion27375]

@@RogueHetero I'm experiencing significant performance issues with my Pixel 8 Pro, particularly when scrolling through apps. The device exhibits jarring stutters and laggy animations, making the overall user experience unpleasant. I'm hopeful that the upcoming Android 15 update will address these problems. Despite being a long-time Pixel fan, it's increasingly difficult to recommend this device due to these persistent performance shortcomings. Given that both hardware and software are developed by Google, it's baffling that the Pixel 8 Pro feels like a budget-tier phone. Even mid-range Samsung devices offer smoother performance. A wide range of apps, including core Google services like KZbin, Spotify, and the Google Feed, suffer from scrolling lags. This issue is also prevalent in third-party apps such as WhatsApp, Kleinanzeigen, and Google Photos, especially the new Memories feature. To make matters worse, there are multiple open threads on the Android Issue Tracker with numerous users reporting similar problems, yet Google seems indifferent to the issue.

[@georget10i]

If they charged a mid range price for a mid range SoC, then it would not have mattered much. But they are charging a flagship price for a mid range SoC.

[@GaryExplains]

Midrange? It has the similar specs as flagship devices launched in Q1 of this year?

[@syn010110]

​@@GaryExplains the G3 from last year is slower than a sd 8+ gen 1 or an A15, chips that are 3+ years old

[@kokop.1610]

Which flagship

[@TimPool-b8z]

I bought the Pixel 7 after my 13 Pro Max. My iPhone has barely slowed down. My pixel feels like it’s five years old.

[@syn010110]

pixel 7 felt 5 years old when it came out lmao

[@TimPool-b8z]

@@syn010110 yep

[@BrandonWatkinsBmW13294]

I have the pixel 7 pro so the G2 im waiting for the pixel 10 to come out. I'm excited that they missed there internal deadline date because it means that the end product they release is going to be a little more mature than it would have been. So closer to a second gen for its first release which hopefully means it'll come out with a bang!

[@DavidDLee]

Yeah, phones are fast enough. No killer app that truly needs on-phone ML inference capability.

[@biswasrout7759]

Not now but you will use it for 3,4 years atleast

[@eufefo]

It's frustrating that Google names its devices after Brazilian locations like "Abrolhos" and "Janeiro" but doesn't make those devices available in Brazil.

[@flamesword300]

Is the Tensors lack of performance in comparison to other chipsets because Google is focusing on efficiency/heat management? or it because they don’t want to increase the price of their phones by using Qualcomm and what ever their latest snapdragon chipset is?

[@m.m.1634]

They are less efficient because they are manufactured by Samsung

[@m.m.1634]

Ok my comment with a source to that claim got deleted but the tensor g3 as efficient as the snapdragon 888

[@syn010110]

it's because google sucks at chip design. they're slower, less efficient, hotter and have worse modems lmao.

[@FuturefilmproducerAdamFerens]

​@@m.m.1634but Samsung phones way better?

[@enam9000]

Watching on my Pixel 9 Pro XL I don't play games on a phone so this phone is perfect for me, i just need a nice camera and clean Android user interface. 😍

[@Drew-NL]

Thanks, was hoping to get a fold, since format but leaks suggest lower camera's, so ill also wait for oneplus 2, with SD3/4.

[@served3530]

I'll wait for the P10. This is a Tensor G3+ basically. I thought Google will use the Exynos 2400 found on the S24 and S24+, this processors runs great on these galaxies.

[@alexjohnson1869]

please continue making videos discussing upcoming chipsets, not enough content being made about the chips powering these devices

[@prateshramjohn]

Given that the current G4 is being used in the Pixel 9, will the previously planned G4 be released in short order as the G5 on a variant of the Pixel 9, or will it be spun-off to another product? I cannot see how google would sit on that chip until the Pixel 10 given that it will only be further behind in a years time when Pixel 10 is released as it would probably be competeing against the SD 8 Gen 5.

[@vin.k.k]

So wait for G5.

[@mosemister]

Watching on a pixel 6. Probably won't update until the pixel 10/a for feature updates only

[@oneminutewonder77]

Honestly these companies would be just as well to not even tell people which processor powers their device anymore. We've reached a point of absurd performance in terms of what these devices are capable of. Things like the modem and connectivity etc should be the primary focus with these new devices. Call quality, screen quality, things people actually care about rather than how much CPU power that their device is capable of but never actually uses in day to day.

[@olebogengthothela1191]

Specs need to start including something like calculations per second per watts (efficiency in other words).

[@quesawea5142]

Honestly the biggest upgrade for the pixel series this year is,by far, the new design and the new modem. I love my pixel phones but their designs were always lacking. This is finally the year I can say ok thats a nice premium looking design. I will upgrade for sure from my pixel 7 pro.

[@theSUBVERSIVE]

Is the G5 the one that will be built by TSMC?

[@igoromelchenko3482]

Using pixel 8. Really good hardware. Not the sensibility of the glass, too sporadic reaction sometimes. Tensor processors are a good extra as on pixels without it, much less versatility in "AI" apps. New phone I will not buy yet for sure, will wait for pixel 11.

[@Tech-Savvy1]

It shows that Google's smartphone development isn't their priority and so they aren't as serious as Samsung or Apple for example. Google's smartphone leaks come out a lot faster compared to Apple or Samsung. But to Google's credit, they are still trying something it's just that they don't promote the Google Pixel smartphone as being one of the fastest or one of the best. For the general population, it goes like this in my opinion:If you buy a smartphone you buy an iPhone, if you don't like IOS you buy Samsung but if performance isn't your priority and you want to be different you consider Google Pixel.

[@natjes6017]

Great vid Gary! As long as it can use Gemini Nano on-device I´m happy. And it seems I'll be eligible buying the Pixel 9 Fold in my country, even if my wife will kill me 😁

[@katinasoutherland7693]

Good luck bro 😂

[@mintakan003]

For LLM's, even if nano, RAM does matter a lot. The other thing is fix the fingerprint sensor. Might consider upgrading to Pixel 9.

[@Tayg1990]

They did that. It's ultra Sonic gen 2 from Qualcomm

[@NikhilSawantIN]

No problem with not being as powerful as its competitors but it should at least be be more energy efficient. And we all know how crazy pixels heat. That’s the only reason stopping me from switching to Google pixel.

[@mukukakondowe5939]

This upgrade is like when apple moved from A15 to A16. Just like apple google has only changed the things that can give their processor lower power draw. Personally I feel if they upgrade the sensors and lenses in the pixel 9 these phones will sell like hot cake

[@SussySmurf]

Out of topic but does ARM's DSU support a nona-core CPU configuration of one X2s, four A710s and four A510s in a single cluster? I know that a nine-core CPU is possible proven by the Tensor G3 and the scrapped Exynos 2300, but is it possible?

[@woodcat7180]

It's fine. I still haven't seen any ai feature that I would be compelled to use regularly. They are all just throwing everything on the wall to see what will stick.

[@viharakhani5157]

I have a pixel 6a and i was really looking forward for the upgrade this year , i am not a gamer so i dont think i care as much because at this point its not just the performance but the other things as well, people dont buy pixel for performance, they but it for software mostly and camera as long as that is good and there is significant upgrades there , i dont see this as a major reason to not upgrade

[@sidz0001]

what is stopping them for using Qualcomm chips? Hopefully it's modem is Qualcomm atleast?

[@GaryExplains]

Google wants to include its own TPU in the processor so therefore it must design its own chip. It doesn't want to use Qualcomm's chips.

[@sidz0001]

@@GaryExplains oh I see, thank you!

[@dursode]

I love my pixel 8 pro. While it may have inferior benchmarks, its real world user experience is superior to any phone on the market

[@FuturefilmproducerAdamFerens]

Secret uses and superpowers of pixel pros we don't know about? And ngl the pixel8 was a downgrade from my 7 pro like wtf is Google doing bro

[@lawrencechen7521]

They just barely catched up to Asus ZenFone 9(released in 2022) SDM8+ 16+256GB. Feel so bad to this processor as its looks beautiful, will absolutely make a great gift to your girl for her back to school season.

[@khaledhafsaoui]

if Google invested all those resources into optimising the software for the Snapdragon chips it would've been much much better for the consumer

[@exiledfrommyself]

Google wants to start making its own chipset and collaborating with Samsung on Tensor was a step in that direction.

[@jesusnavarrete6317]

Are they ordering Dollar Tree versions from TSMC ?

[@blackchristiangeek]

I am growing tired of the first generation in my Pixel 6 Pro because it run TOO hot, TOO regularly, and WAY TOO easily! After the years I'm ready to upgrade. Thanks, and God bless.

[@perperikis5501]

Google's constant excuse that they are not after top performance just doesn't cut it. All phones besides 'gaming' ones, are not after performance as their main goal, however they use what the current tech has to offer. Google just doesn't.

[@globalevolvmlm]

I my opinion besides Pixel products are available only in 17 countries the other reason why they sell very low quantity is this not so good chip. They really should make a custom deal with Qualcomm and have them make a custom chip for Pixel products. There is no reason to reinvent the wheel. Qualcomm chips are by far the best out there!

[@test40323]

any possibility these chips will be available on laptops such as chrome books?

[@Kamraniqbal22]

In what sense😂😂😂?

[@andyH_England]

Zero chance!

[@xeon2k8]

are you masochist or what?

[@louishiggins8881]

Hopefully, the chips are more power efficient with less heat and better battery life. The TPU is supposed to be 50% better (according to Google) which is the main improvement. Question is will 4th generation Samsung be better than 1st generation TSMC 😂 ?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

They should have gone with tsmc or made processor with Collab with Qualcomm

[@markaznar1979]

The Tensor SoC falls short compared to its competitors, especially Apple’s A series. Google’s saving grace is its impressive AI, which I doubt Apple’s can match-but we’ll see come September. If Apple makes a surprising leap in AI while maintaining its superior A series SoC, Google could be in trouble again. At least they have the Pixel Fold for the hipsters, something Apple likely won’t release this year. I might have considered a Pixel phone if Google had been smarter about expanding support to more countries. As for other Android devices, no thanks.

[@JonathanFigueroa]

Sad to say that the processing power of the Tensors has always been "Good Enough" but that modem has consistently been "HORRIBLE". Even Samsung doesn't use its in house modem on it's US phones. Take the hint Google, use a Qualcomm modem and you'll be set. I've been wanting to upgrade my P6P for the last 2 years but I need a Pixel that can make phone calls first.

[@tomswan3401]

I have pixel6 pro and pixel8 pro, both work good for phone calls. My experience was, if there are problems with the phone calls also the carrier was involved (like weak signal). Maybe a Samsung or so would still have signal, but the signal was weak in the first place.^^

[@JonathanFigueroa]

@@tomswan3401 yes the signal is weak to begin with. But my wife has a Galaxy S22 ultra and consistently if we're in NY, TN, KY, FL or anywhere we're traveling I'll have 1 bar of 4g to no signal in many places. At those places she would have 1-2 bars of 5G. Too many times I'd have to borrow her phone to make calls or check Google Maps because my Pixel just couldn't. We both have Verizon with the plan that gives access to the 5G UW bands. Which is awesome when I have it, but way, WAY, too many times I'd lose it all.

[@afif4738]

They should use the Tensor chip to emulate film camera looks like the Fujifilm cameras do. Phone cameras still have a very "artificial" look.

[@mafiaboy4925]

g5 with tsmc 3nm is the way to go

[@shimmy1003]

Why can't they just make a phone right? 🤳 I've been planning to buy one for 13 years but always end up with Xiaomi, Realme, etc., because they simply work well overall.

[@El.Duder-ino]

Nice, thx for the report! I hope this minimal/almost no step up from G3 means that Google is working on the next gen chip which will be targeted also for the PC platforms with ChromeOS which needs to be revived and brought more to light to directly compete with Windows and MacOS. Google is always asleep missing Arm PC band wagon popularized by Apple and now followed by M$ with Qualcomm+Nuvia ex Apple tech. Google must step up its game and jump on it ASAP, otherwise it will be way too late. ChromeOS with Android store need to be optimized for every x86 as possible Linux+Andorid apps alternative and even more and deeper optimized to Google's next Arm based PC chip. ChomesOS should be dual bootable, it must have exceptional touch screen, has to be closely connected to the Android ecosystem with deep integration to Android apps which can either run natively or through best possible emulation only Google can deliver. Basically Google next gen Arm based chip PC must deliver everything what Windows cannot while being both PC and Android ecosystem machine which is in sync with users native Android devices. Google used to be so agile and revolutionary before it turned into this heavy and slow corporate turd which keeps on stinking in the consumer market. They intentionally locked themselves way too much in the datacenter world and to data collection for generating revenue from ads.

[@vikramchauhan2634]

I just don’t know why they don’t ditch samsung and go to snapdragon. This time with google pixel 9 has an outstanding design but same extremely underpowered chipset. This chip is just 3 years behind the competition. I will definitely pass pixel 9 pro just because of shi*ty chipset.

[@andyH_England]

They signed a contract with Samsung Fabs and probably got very cheap wafers. I understand the contract expires after the G4, and Google, like others, will dump Samsung and move to TSMC for the G5, which will be based on their new design. They have learnt a lot in the last three years, hoping the G5 will compete with the best.

[@vikramchauhan2634]

@@andyH_England really hope so . I currently use 15 pro max and the chipset is outta this world. I too own S24 ultra but A17 pro is way ahead in graphic intensive tasks .

[@heavenlyxtacy]

Its a chip for mobile phone, the first thing should be discussed is modem if your phone is not connecting properly to the mobile network what is the use of it, G3 is having issues with connecting to 5G and they using the same modem on G4 so there will be that same issue, having improved on other part of the cores and not getting connected to the network is like you can call it a use less chip.

[@GaryExplains]

I said very clearly that there is a new modem, the Exynos 5400.

[@heavenlyxtacy]

@@GaryExplains yes you did, I am just hoping it works well as progression in exynos chips is not doing anything good.

[@shApYT]

Sleeping on Pixels till they switch to TSMC

[@DWtechfan]

I can guarantee you that most people complaining here in the comments are mostly people complaining based on benchmark numbers. And they’ve never actually owned a Pixel phone before. Pixels have never been about raw power, Google tends to make their phones more about AI and being smarter than the competition. Having owned 3 different Pixels(5a, 6, and 6a), I can tell you the biggest issues for Google are the numerous bugs/glitches, bad battery life, overheating, and awful modem connectivity. Allegedly, the modem is better this year and if that’ll fix connectivity issues and Google can ensure no bugs, they’ve made huge improvements in key areas this year. They added screens that will be used in the iPhone 16 lineup, they’re going to use the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor from the S24 series, they literally stole the iPhone design and made it their own, and they upgraded charging speeds to 45W wired. They’re matching the specs of the competition except for power and if you’ve ever used a Pixel, you know they don’t need raw power. Pixels work well in overall performance, they just need to improve stability across the board. If that’s still not enough for the spec nerds, they need to either buy another brand of phone or give this new Pixel 9 series a chance.

[@singular9]

My pixel 8 pro lasts 2 days in battery. G3 underrated

[@pwrofmusic]

The processor doesn't really matter for me. But if the price is right, only will I buy a pixel 9.

[@ergindemir7366]

Stock ARM designs are very poor, don't expect much.

[@GaryExplains]

Very poor compared to what?

[@hdwblade]

They would have been better off just using the 8 Gen 3s for 1 generation

[@zt9233]

Google needs to justify this expense. They haven’t so far.

[@_willalexander.88]

Google to Samsung: we want the cheapest $hit you got....

[@nazrinasraf5819]

They should go mediatek route. 4 powerful core

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

I was super excited for the pixel 9 I have the 8 but 11 percent better is a joke 😭 I'll be keeping my pixel 8 pro

[@heliosak]

Eagerly waiting for SD Gen 4. Suck it google.

[@omni_0101]

My Tensor 1 P6P was god awful. That chip would overheat on a whim.

[@guillermorodriguez1866]

That’s a shame, I was expecting a really upgraded processor for the Pixel 9, so I’ll skip this generation and stay with my Samsung 😢

[@not_your_typical_guy]

the fact that even samsung ditch their own exynos for snapdragon is very interesting this tensor g4 made by Samsung is probably crap

[@PerryHacker]

Upgrading to the nine is exactly the same phone.

[@elysiumcore]

Maybe this explains why we didn't see MKBHD not showing benchmark, just kept going on about minor AI image improvements - all 3 phones in the 9 series are overpriced especially when you compare them to current flagships like a OnePlus 12, Xiami Pro 14 - keep in mind thst by the end of the year you will see phones using Next Gen Mediatek 9400 & Snapdragon 8/4 😂

[@БахтиярТаласов]

Если кому-то кажется что надо перемотать на 5-10 секунд вперёд, вам не кажется. Воды тут много

[@ankn01]

Toaster with the best camera on earth.

[@vivekbelvalkar]

Less the companies relies on samsung , better their products will be

[@kylorokx1552]

So there is no reason to upgrade .

[@toyotagaz]

Not really

[@realVampyToast]

It will have more ram for AI stuff and prob runs cooler and efficient

[@xeon2k8]

@@realVampyToast pixel sheep spotted

[@realVampyToast]

@@xeon2k8 yes but I'm not upgrading to the 9

[@gospelachuenu8873]

Basically yeah

[@time5831]

Google pixel is like ea fifa in smartphones

[@parshakamarsh]

Still no real improvement and still stuck with the Samsung foundry. Looks like it'll be a while longer before I'm tempted to try a Pixel again

[@TOPDadAlpha]

But will it offset the Pixel 9 Fold smaller battery???? What is Google thinking when they shrink the MAH and have the cahones to call it their flagship device? Does Google think we are not playing attention? Google is getting as greedy as Samsung. Someone must need ANOTHER mega-yacht.

[@nizaramanchar8735]

Dude if it will get overheated while driving and disable network its meh

[@hfhdhdb-yu3vg]

Going from 9 cores to 8 cores, Google downgrading 🤣🤣

[@antant7777]

No I am going back to Apple or Samsung

[@nopenope1]

I don't care for gaming on mobile (don't like the micro transaction gaming) but I really don't like my Pixel 6. It's just getting to hot with just using browser. Modem on it is bad, it just takes to much energy. 2-4% just beeing on mobile, on wifi it's about 2%. Hotspot is killing the battery, one hour can suck 15%+. Is it still the same on Pixel 8s? I do not have much hope for Samsung modems, at least the one in the Pixel 6. My phone at work, ironially Samsung, only lose 1% battery per hour on Wifi an 1.5 on mobile network and 5-6% when it's used as a hotspot. I want to switch to a new one but honestly I don't want to spend a thousand bucks for 128GB stoage and a medicore performance /Batterylife from Google. The monthly updates a nice though, a lot of companies have some asterics* when they claim to do that, Samsung is one of those (Only long term monthly on S)

[@cristianJoker2512]

everyone should just wait for google to move the manufacturing from Samsung to tsmc ,this will happen next year, until then all Tensor= exyons hot mess :)

[@cheesecake4you]

Pathetic really going to cancel my order right now. Truly shocked and disappointed.

[@clivecottam1509]

Google is the next Apple in making

[@pazlevi7169]

Not regretting buying the 8 few months ago instead of waiting for the 9

[@Character-j1r]

d0nt care lol yall act like chip chip power is the only thing .... wait till the Pixel 10 and then when they bump up the price yall gonna complain about that and say Google is not worth it... im still buying a Pixel 9 Pro xl... remember Google is still designing the chips so even if it was designed by TSM they still could limit it or design the architecture to do what Google intent it to do... not everything has to be overpowered to show its usefulnes

[@happyatheists9361]

the office had too much ram! #itcrowd

[@aleksejs_kruks]

Without USB4 Type C - with DisplayPort - new Pixel is scrap.

[@4bafiafzil999]

2024 and high-end phones not supporting video output thru usb-c is so stupid. If I spent near $1000 I would want all possible features given current technology inside the phone

[@Manuel-rl6um]

Isn't this supported in Pixel 8 series now?

[@jpaburido]

Samsung using qualcomm chips. Google usung samsung chip

[@justinmakosky5201]

This tells the whole story

[@mikoyeshiro963]

Google Pixel is just an ordinary phone with enhance picture camera. Nothing really special about it except for its special high price tag. I would not be surprised be the company goes down the sink soon.

[@GaryExplains]

You think Google is going to go bankrupt?

[@yaboipookiepook]

Bankruptcy 😂😂 the 4 or 5 largest company in the world going bankrupt, yeah right. Now a days people will say anything but I highly doubt Google is experiencing any financial strain at this point in the game. People are always praying on Google's demise 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@4bafiafzil999]

Google is a company that's too big to fail, worst case scenario only phone production line/department will be discontinued like LG

[@Manuel-rl6um]

Special things of Pixel phones: - Unique hardware design with personality - Clean AndroidOS that is cohesive and consistent, particularly if you use Google software - No bloatware, no ads - First to upgrade to new Android versions and with 7 years of OS and security updates - Photos - Haptic engine - Smart features for spam calls and many other unique features

[@johnlv7060]

How long until gg understand that people just want a non lag non hiccup non overheat and upick up the phone it open instantly 😂

[@FuturefilmproducerAdamFerens]

Its funny how google tslking about pixel 10 befkre they even lsunched the pixel9. They need to stop dragging their loyal soldiers along. Like their reply to being asked why they so fsr behind is "well the tensor g5 next year is ahead of this years samsun..." Like they jus snubbin their own ppl saying that onky rhe employees get the real flagship like i dont get this shit it makes no sense i saw that google employees said their preferred phone is samsung snd the description on pixels website is so like the way im talking right now. The engineers saying "it does more whatever" im perplexd. I miss the Nexus days especially the 4-5 like omg thise eere the dayd even the designs were just so much better. Phones rlly seem to have devolved

[@brightjsdebbarma9636]

Who will pay 1000 dollars 💵 plus for this little improvement

[@Cre8teQ]

Nothing to see here, move along, move along...The Emperor, has no clothes, Google knows and we know that, hence the early release. I speak, as a Pixel owner myself, this is one to miss and just wait for next year's or pick up an 8 Pro for peanuts..

[@exiledfrommyself]

I get the new Pixel every year so this year won't be different.

[@jedipdx]

Great phone. Horrible Antenna.

[@brightjsdebbarma9636]

Exynos is much better than tensor