Terrible Tribal Commander || Friday Night Paper Fight 2023-03-17

Broadcast: 2023-03-17
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[@techattack6803]

I've never seen four men fail so miserably at being menacing.

[@ClanWiE]

I feel like Ben could be intimidating if he wanted too and if we didn't already know what a good dude he was.

[@techattack6803]

Don't get me wrong: I mean this in the most complimentary way.

[@ff0213]

I don't know, Snerge could put too much sugar in your coffee 😈

[@marcuswillbrandt5901]

Serge did a face I did not know was humanly possible. Tried to imitate it and failed miserably😂

[@dungeononion]

You haven't met me yet, I see.

[@SLiV9]

Graham: we might get more than one game in tonight. Me, looking at the video length: boy I sure hope so.

[@lilyfin2196]

three hours, forty minutes and four seconds from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

[@ff0213]

As a fellow commander lover I agree

[@NStripleseven]

based

[@radical_ans]

I love G casually dropping the term "Advisor Meta" as if it's a thing.

[@Liamsama564]

The Crew: We're playing cEDH! Me: *Looking at the **3:40:04** long video* Oh yeah, this is the stuff.

[@heartofgoldfish]

31:40 "Prison's a deck best saved amongst friends, y'know, at the casual table." And in that moment I remembered the friend who introduced me to MTG and whom I haven't spoken to since he brought Chronatog Stasis to commander night...

[@NStripleseven]

dear god

[@estebanrodriguez5409]

Their body was never found

[@ryanrobot7975]

God I love Chronatog

[@TheColmio]

I love how the damping sphere flavour text fits so well with the deck themes: "A Thran relic, it has spent thousand years doing absolutely nothing."

[@pBlackcoat]

I loved Wheeler waving at Prof

[@project.mirari]

Serge "Nicest Player to Stax You" Yager

[@kevinwestermann1001]

Mr Stax-o-beat

[@AmritaZardor]

May I treat you to a trinisphere friend?

[@itslexactually]

vs anyone else: how dare you vs Serge: yes, thank you, I adore counting to three

[@pytawidmo]

Love me some highly optimized, perfect mana base $1000 "bad" decks

[@NStripleseven]

The good bads

[@danielharrison2383]

@@NStripleseven nah just the bad bads

[@dascandy]

Bad decks need badlands. Even when badlands are $100+.

[@sldoma]

What I see: “Let me put one months salary into one deck as just the mana base”

[@danielharrison2383]

@@sldoma exactly. are they the 1%?

[@microafro1979]

IT'S DAMPING SPHERE! Such lovable friendly people, playing a version of a game that they all actually hate. This is awesome.

[@wilux2469]

One of the most enjoyable videos in a long time. Just the concept is a perfect balance of goofy and smart

[@MrDiscountNinja]

Honestly, I would legit watch some cEDH from y'all. But I also love watching you goof about, and frankly I'd love to see Cam play an EDH homarid deck.

[@kilo3989]

Homarid Strike the Power?

[@TheDualGamers1000]

Watching Ben's slow descent of pain during game 1 is such a surreal experience generally seeing him as an upbeat kind of guy, cEDH really drags your demons out of you.

[@kenpokid10]

Putting in my vote for Eye tribal for part 2.

[@NStripleseven]

Yes, and also Weirds (no support for either but it’d be funny)

[@chris4439]

Shades?

[@WoodenSwordFighter]

Brushwags?

[@comlitbeta7532]

Ouphe

[@pytawidmo]

A bit surprised not seeing the infinite combo with Mutavault, Griffin Canyon and Manascape Refractor / Mirran Safehouse i Serge's deck. It is technically a kill with an infinitely large Griffin after all.

[@irreleverent]

Wheeler mentioned in the video that he'd forgot about Giffin Canyon when he put the deck together.

[@raonair]

How does it work? I'm not seeing anything to infinitely untap Griffin Canyon.

[@calanata2227]

​@@raonair refractor/safehouse has the abilities of both the lands mentioned, so you can activate the refractor/safehouse to turn it into a creature with all creature types with the mutavault ability, then repeatedly use the canyon ability to untap itself, giving it +1/+1, for an infinitely large creature.

[@raonair]

@@calanata2227 Oh, so you're not untapping the original mutavault and canyon, you're tapping the safehouse/refractor to untap that very same card

[@calanata2227]

@@raonair exactly, you got it

[@LokNWykLeer]

Serge: HOW TO KNOW IF YOUR SPHERE IS DAMPANANANT?!

[@devinkerr5474]

How U get Dampernate?

[@Flickstro]

Did most you players FEEL dampnant before find out?

[@starmanda88]

I know this was three months ago but god damn this cracked me tf up

[@LokNWykLeer]

@@starmanda88 I'm glad, thanks for sharing! 😄

[@Mystefy04]

It was so confusing and exhausting as a viewer, but even more fun. 😂 Thank you Loading Ready Run for this experience. ❤

[@nicklondon7739]

3:18:45 Ben wheeler impression of Peter Griffin “oh jeez Lois, I thought the trinisphere was tapped!”

[@adamoneal5837]

Ancient Tomb still taps for 3 with Damping Sphere out since you (Ben) get to choose the order of the replacement effects! You can choose to have the Damping Sphere effect go first which makes it tap for one, followed by the tripling from the Nyxbloom Ancient, giving you 3 colorless! It’s kind of similar to the way damage doublers and Torbran interact!

[@AutkastKain]

I just listened to Shivam and Wheeler Love Magic where they gushed about Kamigawa and the shaman Commander, so seeing it (and Wheeler's land-bouncing twincast creature) was actually really cool

[@Akivaran]

I have never laughed so hard at a LRRMTG game as I did on that first game. SO awesome.

[@heartofgoldfish]

2:51:40 Serge has a completely smooth toss-in here and even if it's under the card reader I still want it appreciated

[@Durtaz]

This is easily one of my favorite paper fights. Such a fun idea! Perfect mix of humor and compelling gameplay, as always.

[@siltyroach1584]

A return of this format really is needed this was great! Would be a good first commander game in the new moonbase

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

01:59:00 Wild Growth! Love the art by Mark Poole.

[@MaskedTai]

The banter in this episode is spectacular.

[@leninade20]

This was fun, hope to see it return.

[@chaosmittens]

This was phenomenal, and would love to see another take on casual cEDH with LRR.

[@timeskip0300]

I love it, this was such a joy more please, I'm here for the 3+ hrs I'd be down if they all were two games, but I understand y'all have a life outside of work. Thanks for all you do!

[@owldeer631]

less than a minute in and I can tell already it was a good idea to give this channel a shot

[@pvtpain66k]

This was amazing. I would love to see more of this format.

[@freaklikeme211]

Very, very, very good VOD. As always.

[@skiffer3]

Thank you Graham, Serge, Benjamin, Wheeler and the rest of LRR, for this top tier content :)

[@LyingTube]

Round two was just completely nutty straight out of the gate, wow

[@ehyoflake8315]

Stax is hilarious in commander because every player is just so accustomed to doing blatantly unfair things that they can't deal with being forced to play fair magic lol.

[@DiabloTommaso]

I m a stax player and enjoier in edh but a good stax deck doesn t only stop people to play unfair shit. It s a slow choking strategy and I get why people don t like it

[@totoranger01]

Hatebears makes it fair, stax starves them of resources

[@rileyhamilton5023]

As an Abzan creature combo commander player, i have learned that unless its a Rest in Peace or an Ashes of the Abhorrent, i just let them hurt everyone

[@alexanderficken9354]

​@@totoranger01 unless you are playing Winota where you just do not care about your own stax pieces

[@frankmart3339]

😂 thats not even remotely true

[@ericleiva]

I got curious on the Damping Sphere + Nyxbloom Ancient interaction. Lands that generate only one mana initially, would get trippled first and then changed to just a colorless, but if the land already generates more than one initial mana, then you can choose for Damping Sphere to apply first and then apply Nyxbloom Ancient, to get 3 colorless out of Ancient Tomb for example.

[@th3TwistedLight]

I'm at minute 30 and this is the most horrifying and most powerful magic I have ever beheld

[@BagelFrog]

This was one of the most fun games to watch in awhile, can I humble request more of this? Please?

[@trumpets101]

2:24:08 For the purposes of clarification, the interaction with Damp(en)ing Sphere and Nyxbloom Ancient (or any or mana multiplier) is a bit unique. For any of Ben's lands that tap for a single mana, Nyxbloom Ancient says that the mana produced is tripled. Damp(en)ing Sphere then responds by seeing lands tap for more than 1 mana and thus turns it into a single colorless mana. For any land that would produce more than 1 mana, Damp(en)ing Sphere would react, causing the land to only produce a single colorless mana, upon which Nyxbloom Ancient would react and cause it to generate 3 colorless. So at this point, Nyxbloom Ancient has turned Ben's normal lands into wastes and the Ancient Tomb now taps for 3 colorless for the price of 2 life. Yay? Also, because of Wild Growth, the Forest taps for a single colorless but also adds {G} from the Wild Growth which is then tripled for {G}{G}{G}. Are you following along? This will be on the test.

[@edgarmarques97]

Does Wild Growth produce 3? Its a triggered mana ability that happens in reaction to the land being tapped but it is not being itself "being tapped for mana" so I think it only produces 1 mana

[@trumpets101]

@@edgarmarques97 Oh yeah, my bad. Started assuming nyxbloom was a blanket mana tripler instead of just for permanents.

[@Spotifist]

This was genuinely a great time, thanks for the video!

[@beatrix-persephone]

when I first heard y'all were doing "Hardcore cEDH Night" before I found out y'all were doing tribal decks, I totally expected Wheeler to bring a Ben-Ben deck (or one of the many other kamigawa commanders he talked about on the recent episode of Shivam and Wheeler Love Magic) and just be like "yup, I've got me a Tier Zero heater of a deck right here" while being completely serious about it. now that I've said that though, I actually kinda want him to do that next time he's on a commander stream.

[@NarcoticIsland]

I could watch these boys try to work around a Damping Sphere all night lol

[@sandmanlives3]

Excellent, as always. Thank you.

[@franklinhodsoniv8210]

Finally, some actual representation for the best tribe ever: Griffins... Zeriam was the first support for the tribe in 25 years!

[@ahrenstarr6273]

3:07:28 we finally learn after all these years, Charlie Brown's teacher was always asking, "do you pay the one?"

[@itslexactually]

Wun WAHN wun WAHWAH one…

[@Irsaan88]

"Most of the chicken I eat is sadness chicken" - Ben Ulmer, 2023

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

"We're super serious, but we're not jerks" - Benjamin Wheeler 😂

[@payforrhystic6822]

Thanks for having me its great to be here

[@fidwell]

Thanks for being here it's great to have you

[@anthonylocker599]

This was great! I was a little surprised nobody played Thrulls though.

[@andrewfornes5320]

I play shaman tribal regularly with Sek'kuar the Deathkeeper. I love it.

[@Jjdude101]

I loved this! Always look forward to commander content from y’all. Not an avid fan of CEDH but I could get used to this xD Graham you’re looking fantastic w/ all dat hair!

[@DimT670]

you could get used to this because this aint cedh :)

[@Jjdude101]

@@DimT670 exactly

[@ElDocBruh]

I'm watching this almost 2 years later and I have to say it's one of my favorite games ever. It's unhinged and on the second half kinda miserable 😂

[@martinphillips2461]

Love Rebell getting a shout-out. Funny creator.

[@DefinitelyNotReal627]

The concept of tuning tribal as high as it can go is honestly awesome, and something I'd like to see more of. That said, Serge on the weakest strategy being held strict on only griffins while every other player was running staples is griefing pretty hard.

[@tilmandeuschel9771]

Teferis protection does not phase out the player who played it. You could still attack him on case you need the attack trigger.

[@michaelsimmons8613]

These tribes are way to good. Where is my cephilid tribal deck!

[@TheTamally]

My favourite part about Damping Sphere is that it has had so many printings in the last two years, and it's a common. So good for slowing down tempo players and it's so cheap.

[@MarkFillmore]

That was so fun to watch, thanks guys

[@Varler_]

This is so silly and I'm down for it! More like this in the future, please! XD

[@itslexactually]

I really love seeing the cEDH pattern of “oh you had a response? Well now I attack you.” Very good

[@favretheundead]

defo would like to see another cedh night

[@MuraxWurmjäger]

I'm genuinely surprised there aren't more shaman tribal decks.

[@natetwehues2428]

It's so weird to see G playing control. It feels like a different human being on screen.

[@DeronHargrove]

Please more of this. This was phenomenal

[@Ariamaki]

My favorite part is when Serge said `it's dampening time` and worb'd all over them.

[@highland1995]

Always love when commander is back

[@spicydungus5518]

My favourite deck I have created is homunculus tribal 😅

[@vantharion]

1:22:50 Fun play, Ben could've tapped the Omenreader to pay for Craterhoof, reducing it's cost by 2. This would let him have 3 mana after the cast, using his Staff of Domination to untap the Omenreader and let it join in the attack

[@blabik]

This is probably the best 4 player casual Elder Damp Highlander video i've seen in years

[@JulesLeoDirect]

Terrible tribes is my jam, with my brids and oozes

[@johne9181]

Really liked this, it was cool to see the high powered cards but have enough time between them so I didn't need to pause all the time to understand the cards

[@matthewdauber6704]

my first thought was desparately hoping someone was playing archer tribal

[@ryanparker260]

Hell yeah, my commander deck fits in the "bad tribal" definition! (I really like spellshapers)

[@DemonNo667]

Ancient Tomb CAN tap for 3 colorless with Damping Sphere and Nyxbloom Ancient on the board. The controlling player can choose in which order they want to apply the effects. Since Ancient Tomb makes 2 mana, its controller can have it first be reduced by Damping Sphere and then tripled with Nyxbloom Ancient.

[@olivesherwood]

My first ever Commander deck was an Advisor Tribal deck... it was pretty good.

[@Giga-lemesh]

I love this so much, I haven't laughed so hard in ages

[@PiquantPan]

alas, i was hoping for Elephant tribal

[@zanebarber8688]

Wonderful video! Keep it up!

[@MemoryLaneWizard]

Not going to deny. Saw the tweet about the week being about CEDH and was like "ugh, why?" but saw the video title as "terrible tribal commander" and clicked immediately.

[@justinblaine2753]

I kinda want more of this so badly

[@ryleyzehner5630]

Dampening sphere has never been more valuable in its life

[@Bruha1891]

CONGRATS! Magic Moments

[@Swnkmstr]

omg patron of the moon? I built a Sunder & Friends Patron stax deck and it was hilarious xD I'm excited to see what garbage wheeler has blessed me with

[@TheTamally]

I just built Baru wurm tribal for this week and I am so excited to see it fail miserably.

[@zackbonno3675]

I play Zeriam and she's actually a straight gas commander. Nobody takes it seriously because it's Griffin, but unchecked she takes over games super fast

[@anthonylocker599]

You four having a good time is just as much, if not more fun than the game itself.

[@conrage2002]

This episode is a fever dream. The stacks. The staxxxx! Myahahhaa

[@Nurglewaffle]

This was fun! ...and way to shine a light on some not-so-great tribes. Kinda surprised they didn't force, say, Kobolds or Treefolk lol.

[@matthewloser7567]

Treefolk are probably too good. I expected homarids

[@troppsicle4165]

CEDH isn't about the decks. It's about the mindset. Having fun trying to win in the quickest way possible.

[@markbrierley6367]

If it takes longer to prep for a game than to play it that's a bad game.

[@troppsicle4165]

@Mark Brierley I'll sit at a cedh table with my worst deck, I don't care lol. Does it have a win con? Alright, let's pop off!

[@Mordalon]

@@markbrierley6367 Not everyone shares your metric.

[@amithralad]

seeing the length of this stream i have a bad feeling

[@bfeldz1023]

Intuition is likely not banned in commander because of the rules commitee's insistance on having the banlist be a suggestion on what types of cards shouldn't be played instead of an actual banlist. So there's a land destruction card in there (Balance) to imply you probably shouldn't be playing land destruction but they won't put cards like Armageddon on there because they feel like somehow putting just Balance on there is doing enough and the rule 0 conversation will pull the rest of the weight (it doesn't).

[@jarzz3601]

I quite like worb myself you channel it and just walk around while it pelts things with ice good times

[@mareksison]

Funny. I thought we were going Frogs or Lammasu but this is good too

[@yoshthen00b]

I've just seen damping sphere break two grown men.

[@Earl-Grey5]

Love this! More cEDH or high power EDH!

[@Raguel88]

It is also time for another dollarstore beejlander!

[@TheAlmightyGoiter]

A lot of people are asking questions about trinisphere that trinisphere itself answers.

[@calvinblitman3842]

As Always, Ben Wheeler doing Hoof Math is incredibly impressive

[@the000ka]

I was expecting scarecrow tribal but that was probably too good.

[@NStripleseven]

~1400 decks on EDHRec, yeah. That one guy that kills stuff when they ETB is just too flashy.

[@MarlaDesat]

This is superb 💙