Tesla Model 3 Performance vs. Ioniq 5 N vs. Mustang Mach-E GT | Performance EV Shootout

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@edmundscars
@edmundscars 7 күн бұрын
Whether it's speed, handling, or daily-drivability, what feature do you look for in a performance car? And which of these exciting performance EVs best represents it? Let us know in the comments below!
@MountainDizzal
@MountainDizzal 7 күн бұрын
I have a 2024 model three performance and on the Bradington drag strip I absolutely hit 2.7 seconds 0 to 60. Track mode lowers the amount of peak power you can get if you hook it Tessie app, you can see this. You need to leave it in insane and either use one of the Sexy buttons to turn on the preconditioning of the battery or just put your directions to a supercharger and it’ll heat up the battery with a fully warm battery and cool motors. It’ll absolutely do 2.6 to 2.7 seconds 0 to 60 anything above a 90% state of charge. Three seconds is laughably slow. You can still pull under three seconds like high 2.8 2.9. All the way up into about 55% state of charge peak power can measure 624 at the motor above 75% SOC.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Edmunds - ONLY Tesla is profitable & makes vehicles PEOPLE want. BTW - Tesla mod 3 PERFORMANCE took 2nd place @ Laguna Secca setting a RECORD lap time. the FUD motors mex-e is a very Crappy car made in MEHICO. the mex-e is still made in 2 halves , the FWD made by 1 Engineer & the RWD made by a different Engineer. the Hyundai IONIQ 5N is overpriced for what LIMITED kit you get. neither mex-e or IONIQ 5N are profitable & sold at a LOSS. BTW - only the TESLA model 3 is the BENCHMARK, as are the Cybertruck & the 2025 model Y . NOBODY is benchmarking the Mex-e or IONIQ 5N.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
let us know , when you start doing UNBIASED reporting.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Edmunds - customer is BETTER off w/ TESLA model 3P and taking it to UNPLUGGED for racing parts UPGRADES.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
EDMUNDS - the Mex-e & IONIQ 5N are very OUTDATED cars. Cybertruck even OUTSOLD the Mex-e. IONIQ 5N is a NON contender.
@runany1
@runany1 6 күн бұрын
Model 3P is $47k after Fed rebate and I5N is 64k after Fed rebate. Huge price difference.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
I5N does not qualify for federal EV rebate.
@runany1
@runany1 6 күн бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj online it showed $3750 for 2025 model not 2024.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
@@runany1 So, I5N does not qualify for the full $7,500 federal EV rebate? Got it!
@runany1
@runany1 6 күн бұрын
@@KP-xi4bj correct 2024 doesn’t get at all and 2025 shows it meets half of it. It’s the internet…I know for fact Tesla does. Both killer cars. Just large price difference and large enough I can’t justify gap.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
@@runany1 I can't justify $64K for 221 miles per charge in 2024. It's beyond pathetic.
@rexjamo
@rexjamo 7 күн бұрын
No track lap time comparison? What the hell!
@ZoharBenJoel
@ZoharBenJoel 6 күн бұрын
I’m the illuminati: I deleted your comments.
@JonNewell
@JonNewell 7 күн бұрын
I can’t see that any of these cars were driven at the limit, or even fast. No lap times either?
@mphcorvette1
@mphcorvette1 6 күн бұрын
Yea I thought by the title that there would be a lap time to compare.
@anthonylim5120
@anthonylim5120 5 күн бұрын
The only thing I know is the Ioniq5N is the only EV that can do 2 full laps of Nurburgring without overheating the battery nor brake fade.
@mphcorvette1
@mphcorvette1 5 күн бұрын
@anthonylim5120 which is impressive for EV or ICE, that thing is just crazy impressive
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 4 күн бұрын
@@anthonylim5120 That Model 3 Performance is the Europe version, which is 150 hp weaker than the Ioniq 5N.
@sinccrruon
@sinccrruon 4 күн бұрын
@@mrb2349 you kidding right. why edmunds US go to europe to review europian cars? that is the US version which is faster version. ioniq 5n does 0-60 in 3.1 or even some youtubers did flat 3 seconds.
@christianraygoza5676
@christianraygoza5676 7 күн бұрын
So it’s a performance comparison and the tie breaker is not the faster one, but the one with the most rear seat room?
@mark_grey
@mark_grey 4 күн бұрын
Nah, Ioniq 5N is the more engaging one he said.
@cammy142
@cammy142 3 күн бұрын
And likely the fastest one around a track
@deanmcmanis9398
@deanmcmanis9398 7 күн бұрын
I prefer the Tesla Model 3 Performance. It is lighter, better performing, and more efficient than the others here. The Ioniq 5N is really a strong contender, being fun to drive, but still practical. But for as long as the federal subsidies last, the Tesla can be bought for nearly $20,000 less! The Mach-E (I won't call it a Mustang) is a solid effort, but in this over-achiever group it is clearly in 3rd place. I am glad that the Edmunds team ran the Tesla M3P against these two performance crossovers, because it does represent Tesla's latest, most competitive model available today.
@PEACEOUTXX1
@PEACEOUTXX1 7 күн бұрын
@@deanmcmanis9398 when looking at performance cars .. looks,interior, and engagment is what u want. U don't buy a sports car and give af about efficency. 5N simply does it better. Then u got the benchmark taycan.
@GlitterGuru
@GlitterGuru 7 күн бұрын
Like they said in the video the M3 isn’t really a fair comparison, of course it’s going to be lighter and a little more fun to toss around simply due to physics. Curious to see how the updated Y compare to the Ioniq 5 and how the M3 compares to the upcoming Ioniq 6 N. That’s when it’ll get interesting
@ovo2236
@ovo2236 7 күн бұрын
​@@PEACEOUTXX1Fat suvs just don't cut it.
@layne4376
@layne4376 7 күн бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 Range plus best acceleration, the Tesla is more compelling than this Hyundai. Not to mention, there will be a recall in 5..4..3..2..1...
@didiermejia780
@didiermejia780 7 күн бұрын
Hahahaha. "Model 3 better performing" tesla.fanboy
@JustinTime-pw9oy
@JustinTime-pw9oy 6 күн бұрын
I love my Ionic 5N, and it's a blast to drive with the e-shift engaged and the engine mode on. I've gotten a 0-60 time down to 3.0 flat on a couple ocassions, so it's as fast as I want it to go.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 7 күн бұрын
Did the 2024 M3P have the latest OTA software update which includes the track endurance mode?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
NOPE . BTW, 2024 model 3 Performance took PODIUM @ Laguna Secca, Willows and Thunder mountain.
@tarmacsurfer101
@tarmacsurfer101 6 күн бұрын
I've owned a Tesla model 3 for 5 years and can easily say the Tesla should've won purely based on charging infrastructure. I have 2 buddies both with different EVs, one being a Leaf and the other a MachE and they both have bitched about charging and have never left the city limits with their cars due to unreliable charging network. However I have NEVER worried about where I was going to charge or how I was going to charge my car bc I can go anywhere without fear of being stranded. Tesla supercharging network is ultimately what makes Tesla vehicles superior. I drove to Seattle from Portland and charged the car upon arriving to 90 from 10 in about 40 minutes and only spent 12 dollars!
@ElMistroFeroz
@ElMistroFeroz 6 күн бұрын
Why are people so obsessed with overpaying for electricity? No one has been able to explain.
@MattyRut2922
@MattyRut2922 7 күн бұрын
I still consider Ford calling the Mach E a Mustang a war crime.
@justme307
@justme307 7 күн бұрын
Grow up.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 7 күн бұрын
I agree
@danielbernard602
@danielbernard602 7 күн бұрын
10000%agree and I'm not even a Ford guy
@PresidentJackBauer
@PresidentJackBauer 7 күн бұрын
Agreed, it didn't need mustang tied to it. Could've just called it Mach e and left it alone
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 күн бұрын
I often find myself purposefully calling it a Mustang just to get a reaction out of people who are triggered by the name association.
@QMaverick1
@QMaverick1 7 күн бұрын
Mach-E Premium 4X owner here . . . there are 2 stages of traction control "OFF." At the 2nd stage (which is where I'm guessing you were), you CAN get it sideways on low-traction surfaces, but it's definitely not purpose built to do so. However, it is EASILLY the most fun car I've ever had in snow. Control is amazing, and the ability to get it sideways and come out of it safely is just magnificent. Or so I've heard . . .
@vibhusivakumar6092
@vibhusivakumar6092 7 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. It just snowed yesterday and I was having a blast in my 21 standard Gt
@joemcdonough7509
@joemcdonough7509 7 күн бұрын
Matt Farah from Smoking Tire recently posted a video testing the Mach-E rally version. He had an absolute blast in the dirt!
@mixjon76
@mixjon76 6 күн бұрын
Yeah rally has drift and is considered top performance Mach e GT version.
@jameshuegli3534
@jameshuegli3534 7 күн бұрын
Being a track test I must have missed it…what ran a better time?
@jagger2001
@jagger2001 7 күн бұрын
The best time are the friends we made along the way
@biglee13m
@biglee13m 7 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure not even close... the Ioniq 5N destroyed both of them without breaking sweat.
@jameshuegli3534
@jameshuegli3534 7 күн бұрын
@@biglee13m How do you figure? Jason Camisa's video showed the new Model 3 performance is on part with a brand new BMW M3 before the tires start to give out. I'm thinking that as long as the track isn't too big (aka Nurburgring) and the Tesla's brakes can hold up (it did in Jason's test) that it should be quite a bit faster than the N.
@8ballphilc
@8ballphilc 7 күн бұрын
@@biglee13m They say right in the video the 3 performance is faster in a straight line.
@neoinfiniteway
@neoinfiniteway 7 күн бұрын
The SUV Ioniq 5 N achieved a record 26 seconds faster than Tesla's flagship sedan performance model, Plaid, on Pikes Peak. This is an official record from the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb in the U.S., so it can be independently verified.
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot 7 күн бұрын
The piped in fake sound in the Mach e was enough to make me forward the video to the next car.
@Moocowsia
@Moocowsia 7 күн бұрын
You can turn it off. The Ioniq has the same thing as well.
@lemongavine
@lemongavine 7 күн бұрын
@@MoocowsiaIonic’s sound is 1000x better than the Ford. The MachE just kind of rumbles. The Ionic mimics an ICE engine
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 7 күн бұрын
Model 3 performance is a bargain, I wish ioniq had similar efficiency
@ericmichel3857
@ericmichel3857 6 күн бұрын
Ioniq N is way more fun to drive, I wish the Model 3 had similar fun. Oh, and manual controls, especially the blinkers, that alone is a deal breaker for me.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 6 күн бұрын
The Hyundai is just too heavy.
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 6 күн бұрын
@@ericmichel3857 you can make the model 3 a weapon on the track, unplugged performance really showed us the true potential of the car with some mods
@PEACEOUTXX1
@PEACEOUTXX1 6 күн бұрын
Tesla- poor mans sports car.
@VNCTHE1
@VNCTHE1 6 күн бұрын
​@@PEACEOUTXX1Poor man's sports car that's faster than an actual sports car.
@brendanthibault5972
@brendanthibault5972 7 күн бұрын
Makes me glad I got the 5N. Have yet to have a bad time in it and works great as a daily driver. Rather have it than either of the other 2.
@didiermejia780
@didiermejia780 7 күн бұрын
Nice! I really wanted the 5N but the price and range was a deal breaker. I got a regular Ioniq 5n RWD long range. I did drive the 5n and damn it was so much fun a very dialed in. I previously had a Mach E GT and it was very dialed in too but it has very stiff forna family car.
@a124as
@a124as 7 күн бұрын
Sucks to charge at a Walmart though when you do road trips
@didiermejia780
@didiermejia780 7 күн бұрын
@a124as why, it's great. Grab a snack walk around
@jasondoe5741
@jasondoe5741 7 күн бұрын
@@didiermejia780lol no one enjoys walking around a Walmart 😂 the N needs about 60-100 miles more range.
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 7 күн бұрын
​@@jasondoe5741 Its not built for road trips
@24shoot17
@24shoot17 7 күн бұрын
Shame they tested model 3 without trackmode update which fixed false brake overheating warning issue and added endurance mode.
@Mkvkuv
@Mkvkuv 7 күн бұрын
more content for them to do an update test
@ovo2236
@ovo2236 7 күн бұрын
​@@Mkvkuv Yeah. It showed update download icon on the screen. They just ignored the update.
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 7 күн бұрын
@@ovo2236I think it deserves to be tested pre updated as that’s the experience everyone who purchased one had until the update
@jezza6575
@jezza6575 6 күн бұрын
@@ovo2236EXACTLY!!!
@jezza6575
@jezza6575 6 күн бұрын
@@mcnuggetappleThat’s illogical because those that already purchased the car already have it versus those in the market would be buying the car with the upgrade! Pretty sad these journalists have to find everything they can to sandbag the Tesla!
@Mark-nu3ej
@Mark-nu3ej 7 күн бұрын
I'll take the 5N all day long for now. The ability to fake an 8 speed PDK makes it the coolest of them all along with the practicality.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Hyundai uses OUTDATED battery cells that catch FIRE & Explode.
@generynkewicz4871
@generynkewicz4871 7 күн бұрын
@@markplott4820don’t they all 😅😅
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 7 күн бұрын
@markplott3820 Haven’t you seen Tesla catch on fire? AFAIK, no 5N has caught fire. So stop the BS.
@GENESISMAGMA
@GENESISMAGMA 7 күн бұрын
​@@markplott4820Firesla and Hyundai both use Korean cells, but Hyundai uses latest cell, what are you talking lol
@GENESISMAGMA
@GENESISMAGMA 7 күн бұрын
Google says tons of people couldn't escape from Firesla's outdated battery cell catch Fire & Explode 😂
@Tiger-pu4oz
@Tiger-pu4oz 7 күн бұрын
My pick is new Tesla M3P. It’s the sports sedan bang for the buck. The 800lbs weight difference is huge between 5N & M3P. That’s a fundamental flaw harder to fix. Also, 5N is not a sports sedan. More like a crossover and its true competitor is MYP. With all the money you save over a 5N, buy a set of track day tires Cup 2R plus. And performance brake fluid,a big brake kit with still few thousand to spare for a future tune or further suspension upgrades, or just invest it. I do like the aggressive design to distinguish 5N from lesser Ioniq versions. I think Tesla M3P looks better than 5N. But can use a bit more aggressive Motorsport flair than the subtle differences between performance vs non-performance versions.
@charleschin2612
@charleschin2612 5 күн бұрын
If I was to choose I'm not a Hyundai fan but I'd rather go with the Hyundai ioniq as it looks a lot better and it's definitely was that hot hatchback looks also with practicality
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 7 күн бұрын
2024 M3P is faster, stops shorter, is cheaper, and has more range. It's a no brainer 2024 M3P is the clear winner.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
2024 TESLA model 3 is the current BENCHMARK. 2025 NEW model Y coming soon (benchmark).
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 7 күн бұрын
@@markplott4820 Shhhh!!! Don't say it too loud, the I5N fangirls may be offended. LOL
@club3g82
@club3g82 7 күн бұрын
Exactly, these journalist are always so high up on the ioniq5 N nutts it's ridiculous. It is clearly superior to my 23 M3P but it's extremely easy to see for everyone that the Highland M3P is well and truly clear of the Ioniq5 N.
@ericmichel3857
@ericmichel3857 6 күн бұрын
No no, the N has .03 G more lateral grip, therefore it is superior! 😂Beyond a certain point the numbers become meaningless, 1 foot, .3 three seconds, nobody cares. Even the greater range doesn't really matter to most folks as the average drive is 42 miles a day so.. If I had to drive more than 200 miles a day, I would not buy an EV like these. The Tesla has some advantages, but people generally pay more for performance models for the fun of driving, and in that regard I am sorry to say the Hyundai has the Tesla beat by a significant margin. I hope Tesla studies the Ionic N and adopts the things that make it so much fun to drive. There is no shame in copying a great idea when It works.
@kiwan5425
@kiwan5425 6 күн бұрын
​@ericmichel3857 this comment is the truth.
@Elaba_
@Elaba_ 7 күн бұрын
It's nearly impossible to steal a Model 3 with pin to drive activated. That can't be said about the Ioniq 5 ...
@volcalstone
@volcalstone 7 күн бұрын
Nothing a steering wheel lock can't fix.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
you can HACK an Ioniq 5N w/ xbox controller.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist 7 күн бұрын
Paralyzed by FUD?
@lONlQ
@lONlQ 6 күн бұрын
You can HACK a Tesla with a Cheap Raido Hack and STEAL.
@lONlQ
@lONlQ 6 күн бұрын
​@@markplott4820In your dream. There's no any article.
@AdamJakowenko
@AdamJakowenko 6 күн бұрын
We looked at all 3 of these for our only car in a 2-person household and chose the Mach-E because it was the most well rounded of the bunch...while not the fastest it's still brutally fast, and was the only one that had crossover practically, physical stalks, dedicated steering wheel buttons, physical air vents, power memory seats, 360 surround view camera, wireless CarPlay, adaptive suspension, and full 1-pedal driving...which all make for a most excellent daily driver that also holds its own for amateur weekend canyon carving. To each their own, but for us it was exactly what we were looking for and we love it.
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
Exactly, well said. My family members had three electric cars, two Mach E’s and one Model Y. The Tesla got dumped. It was fascinating comparing them. Tesla May be really good at electric infrastructure and architecture, but you could tell they did not have experience building cars.
@mddah01
@mddah01 7 күн бұрын
in Australia the Model 3 Perfromance is $A80900 plus on road costs. The Ioniq 5N is $A110,000 plus on road. Over here it is not a contest.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
Nah, it's a slaughter by Tesla!
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 күн бұрын
Yep. Poor man's sports car. TESLA!
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 5 күн бұрын
​@@G82Wattsdude, you're still angry? 🤣 You see the stock price lately? BWM, Volkswagen and Porsche stocks aren't doing so well... Maybe most people know something you don't.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 5 күн бұрын
@TheMadmax0609 g8x platform is selling like hot cakes brother and my dad is making a mill a year owning porsche,bmw , GM of Volkswagen.
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 5 күн бұрын
@G82Watts I think you need to do your research.. every European automotive stock is down. 🙄 And your dad would have made a lot more money had he invested in Tesla. 😉
@FarhoodEnsan
@FarhoodEnsan 6 күн бұрын
fair review and great video. IONIQ 5N is the better fun sports car by a small margin to model 3, and model 3 is a way better all rounder if you want to have 1 car that can do it all!
@tommy303
@tommy303 7 күн бұрын
Faced with this exact decision to find a daily driver to offset my 10 mpg, E85, over 1000 hp GT-500, I REALLY wanted the I5N. I even found a dealership willing to knock $2500 off the $69k price, (plus there's the $7500 credit), but the lease payments were still over $800/month. Next, I looked at a $61k MME GT. While nowhere near as entertaining as the Hyundai, Ford has INCREDIBLE rebates and leasing. They knocked off $19,000 and the payments were in the mid $400/month range. I didn't need to see anything more. I'll take the MME GT as a daily driver. It's 2/3 of the car of the I5N, but at 1/2 half the monthly payment. While perhaps a mistake, I never even made it to Tesla.
@JonathanEzor
@JonathanEzor 7 күн бұрын
Not a mistake.
@kiwan5425
@kiwan5425 6 күн бұрын
So, you went with a Mazda 3 instead of a BMW M340i? No need to write a whole essay of excuses. 😂
@ROBMACDUI
@ROBMACDUI Күн бұрын
@@tommy303 I’d be concerned with getting service for the Mach-E in a couple years now that they discontinued them. If it’s anything like GM with the Volt you’ll be scrambling around trying to find a dealer with a certified EV tech. When you finally do, be prepared to get in line to wait cause there’a usually only 1 or 2 techs per dealer. This is the main reason In wouldn’t buy from an ICE manufacturer. They simply don’t have the network to support them.
@fuzzoptic7476
@fuzzoptic7476 7 күн бұрын
I bought the Mustang Mach E for 3 good reasons over the Tesla and the 5N. It looks better and has a more aggressive stance. Also in my area, Tesla's are everywhere and I'm tired of looking at them. Also sitting in the car is extremally comfortable. Yes, this car is not a good race car to take out to the track
@Antsir12
@Antsir12 6 күн бұрын
You made the right choice! Best looking and most comfortable.
@wendystacos7447
@wendystacos7447 6 күн бұрын
Balanced, no BS review. I appreciate that considering how polarizing people still try to make Tesla and EVs.
@toddh4491
@toddh4491 7 күн бұрын
Great shootout, thank you! Love two of these cars so it's enjoyable to watch.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Ummm, the cars were NOT even driven to the LIMIT.
@RB-pi3jl
@RB-pi3jl 6 күн бұрын
Smiles repeatedly while driving the Tesla Model 3 Performance, serious look when road testing the Ionig 5N. Verdict for the Ionig 5N ? ? ? ? ?
@t1328
@t1328 3 күн бұрын
Good video. I agree with your logic and choice here. I don’t have a M3P. I have and love my M3 LR AWD, and am looking forward to its performance upgrade coming soon. Having said that, if I had the money, I’d get the Ioniq 5N for the reasons you specified. I don’t have anywhere near that money. The M3 LR AWD cost me $42k after the tax break. The N is listed for $66k. The M3P is also fairly significantly cheaper than the Ioniq. But once you’re in its territory, it’s easier to justify the jump to an N.
@Jeffro19
@Jeffro19 7 күн бұрын
Please get the Tesla model 3 performance and the Ionic 5N together for the U drags. I think this would be a great and close matchup!
@Xi_JinPoo
@Xi_JinPoo 7 күн бұрын
Clearly, Tesla's artificial intelligence is overwhelmingly better, and Hyundai-Kia's durability and cornering performance on the circuit are much better. The 0 to 60 mile performance seems to be good for Chinese cars or German cars with Chinese parts. If you really want to save money, I recommend Tesla or Hyundai/Kia.
@janissaryone1906
@janissaryone1906 5 күн бұрын
There must be a lot Hyundai advertising funds going to Edmunds.... Why any sane person would pay extra $20K for the 5N is beyond me. Besides, the 5N still don't have the Tesla NACS connector, no Tesla Cam, Sentry Mode, regular OTA updates, etc.
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest 7 күн бұрын
I'm clearly not an EV guy, but the M3P is by far the most attractive "affordable" EV for me these days. While Hyundai made a huge leap forward with the 5N, the Tesla is just better in all the ways that count for me in a car I'd drive every day. And if you want to personalize the performance I've been impressed by what I've seen in the Tesla aftermarket so far (Mountain Pass Performance, Unplugged Performance, etc. offering some great upgrades). I wouldn't want to be tracking any of them (although some do well in them), but if I did I'd just do brake pads and fluid on the M3P.
@jayc3110
@jayc3110 2 күн бұрын
No track time comparison between the three cars? That was important don't you think?
@johnnyberdugo8292
@johnnyberdugo8292 3 күн бұрын
Sound for the model 3😊
@Villani_AV
@Villani_AV 7 күн бұрын
You mean to tell me that the Crossover SUV FEELS like an SUV???
@travolous
@travolous 7 күн бұрын
Mach-E GT performance for 24 has more power, and has 0-60 in 3.3. Not sure where you got your 24 test car.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 7 күн бұрын
Lol, Ford fangirl is coping hard. Car and Driver got legit 3.0 sec 0-60 in the 5N. No roll out BS.
@cjljr41
@cjljr41 7 күн бұрын
Ford claims 3.3 seconds with a one-foot rollout, which means around 3.6 seconds from a standstill. Side note: I own a ‘24 GT Performance Upgrade and can say it doesn’t “feel” like 3.3 seconds.
@Areku06
@Areku06 6 күн бұрын
But Tesla is 2.8s 0-60 with rollout, car and driver. That’s a huge difference from mustang gt.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 6 күн бұрын
For me still Hyundai Ioniq 5N is the most fun you can have in EV 😂❤😂. Edmunds team great video, you should come to Europe and Tyr some of our cars you don't get in US like Alpine A290, Hyundai i20N, Cupra Fermantor, Škoda Octavia vRS, Renault Clio, VW Amarok ... would really love to see your opinion on them🤟🤟🤟😍
@ryanb8466
@ryanb8466 7 күн бұрын
What is up with automotive journalist failing so hard at testing vehicles. There is a button on the effing dash to shut off the traction control on the Ford Mustang if you shut the traction control off it will drift around every corner. It actually rotates very easily even on the streets I do it all the time. For f sake man! I swear to God they rig all these tests so the mustangs always underperform! Moreover the Ford mustangs 0 to 60 is 3.3 seconds not 3.7.. I have one I've tested it with a draggy it does 3.3 0 to 60's consistently... Also you guys probably put it on extended unbridled. Which limits the power So you will only do a 3.7 0 to 60 and it will feel slow on a track.. I don't know why Ford had to make the mode so goddamn confusing so journalist couldn't figure them out.
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 6 күн бұрын
Exactly, true to its Mustang routes it has to have a mode to go sideways and slam in to crowds, posts, and ditches.
@davideverman7984
@davideverman7984 7 күн бұрын
As always great review I have driven all 3 of these current models and there is only one point I beg to differ and that the charger support system that Tesla has built across the nation that alone in this comparison puts it in the top. IMHO the Ionic is the best looking. tesla needs to up their game with more concentration on looks that ultimate range in all their performance models.
@Car_Tism
@Car_Tism 6 күн бұрын
This 👏🏾should’ve 👏🏾 been 👏🏾 a 👏🏾 U-Drags! We need to see those numbers face off, Tesla M3P versus Ionic 5 N U-Drags stat!
@dearbulls
@dearbulls 7 күн бұрын
VW should really bring the GTX version of ID4 to the US.
@snowrocket
@snowrocket 7 күн бұрын
Well, maybe they can't get it to pass the USA EPA smog test. Oh wait... 😅
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
When is the M3P vs. I5N u-drag video coming out? The suspense continues to build.
@GeorgeKnighton
@GeorgeKnighton 7 күн бұрын
In Unbridled Extended, the Mach-E GT's performance is reduced enough to extend substantially the time before there is an intervention that reduces power to the point you think you should get off track. The Mach-E GT is not suited for extended use on your typical 2.5-3.0 mile road course in the United States. I have a 2023 Mach-E GT Performance Edition. It's a very nice GT for legal road use, but as an instructor I do not find it suited to track use the way you'd typically want.
@jorgerojas3424
@jorgerojas3424 6 күн бұрын
How would a I4 m50 rank as far as acceleration, handling etc?
@erik-t5x
@erik-t5x 6 күн бұрын
"The Tesla Model 3 is faster, travels further, it's cheaper, and you can charge in anywhere. But the Ioniq 5 has more rear seat space, which is why the Ioniq 5 wins this test." Makes sense.
@philpre
@philpre 6 күн бұрын
It’s safe to say that Tesla does not advertise in Edmunds.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 6 күн бұрын
LOL
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 6 күн бұрын
Did u not hear the part where they said it's more fun to drive and handles better? U people are mind numbingly dumb. Every single comparison review of these cars from motortrend to carwow to throttle house says the i5n is the winner. Clearly yall are just biased and had to buy the tesla cuz it's the only fast car u can afford 😂
@davieb1969
@davieb1969 6 күн бұрын
Someone didn't watch the video properly. :D
@PEACEOUTXX1
@PEACEOUTXX1 6 күн бұрын
5N in every single comparison wins vs the model 3. It's simple. When talking performance cars the more engaging and better handling car and better looking always wins. No one in real life unless ur just broke and wanna brag that ur cheap speed bland tesla is 0.2 seconds faster cares. Tesla really is the new poor mans sports car to finally feel validated for the average joes that use to get embarrassed whenever a sports car showed up around them.
@berkaberk
@berkaberk 6 күн бұрын
Is there a reason you've stopped using the Kia EV6 in your vids?
@rolandjarrett611
@rolandjarrett611 3 күн бұрын
Watch the Throttle House review of the T3 "Performance" then watch the Ionic 5N lapping the ring, then decide if the performance badge should remain. The thing can't stop.
@BrianS-ny9yd
@BrianS-ny9yd 2 күн бұрын
Solved by "Endurance mode" update. See Haggerty.
@peacems
@peacems 7 күн бұрын
No real surprise here. TESLA is the smart choice, HYUNDAI is the fun choice, and FORD is not a choice at all.
@Alperic27
@Alperic27 7 күн бұрын
tsla is the cult choice…. nothing smart there
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Hyundai & FUD are NO choice , nor even Profitable. TESLA model 3 is current BENCHMARK.
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
Lol. My family has two Mach E’s and the Model Y. The Tesla build quality was crap - ceiling coming unglued behind the glass, range constantly not even close to advertised, door panel gaps. I tried to warn my friend not to get Tesla - he bought a new Model 3. In the first weeks had it back in because the driver window kept falling into the door - oooops the factory forgot the screws.
@OrionDC
@OrionDC 7 күн бұрын
I5N is so much roomier than the Tesla M3, the comp (for my needs, anyway) is the Y and there’s no comparison. I5N all day everyday.
@chuchum3
@chuchum3 6 күн бұрын
Where's the U-Drag with these?
@RIVvideos
@RIVvideos 11 сағат бұрын
Obviously the M3P is the best bang for the buck: its faster, weighs less, better efficiency and supercharging infrastructure
@davidk4682
@davidk4682 6 күн бұрын
Great review. Narrowest of margins , agreed. Like 0.00015% better.
@rdk3996
@rdk3996 7 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you!
@rexmaster1004
@rexmaster1004 5 күн бұрын
M3P is fun to drive and it really suits me well. I cannot justify +$20k more for I5N.
@Pabla98
@Pabla98 4 күн бұрын
one tip: remove any loose objects before driving the cars hard, pretty distracting to hear stuff flopping around in the background
@atulnayak9717
@atulnayak9717 7 күн бұрын
can you guys do the hands free test again?
@newmotionpictalentinc9577
@newmotionpictalentinc9577 6 күн бұрын
Never talked about the software and the over the air updates ... The Model 3 is the clear winner.........
@유승연-d2w
@유승연-d2w 5 күн бұрын
Wrong place, my brother
@neoinfiniteway
@neoinfiniteway 5 күн бұрын
And V2L function of Ionic 5N? Each cars have diffrent pro and con
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 5 күн бұрын
​@@유승연-d2wit's the right place... It's also a huge advantage
@TheMadmax0609
@TheMadmax0609 5 күн бұрын
​@@neoinfinitewayI think anyone would prefer consistent OTA updates over V2L.
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 4 күн бұрын
@@neoinfiniteway how many times are you going to use V2L function? very rare
@videowsatcher
@videowsatcher 5 күн бұрын
Felt like a clam in the rear seat of an Uber Model 3; a write off for me
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 7 күн бұрын
Before watching - the poor mach-e brought a knife to a tank fight. As for the other two, I'd be shocked if the Ioniq5 doesn't nail a win here. The Tesla isn't bad overall, but that Ioniq5 is on a different level driving wise, and now everyone else is just playing catch up.
@GlitterGuru
@GlitterGuru 7 күн бұрын
I’m assuming Ford finally fixed the track limiter on the GT? I remember when it launched it refused to do more than 1-2 laps around a track
@Smith-h6h
@Smith-h6h Күн бұрын
Of course, no mention of self driving which Tesla now has in spades over these other two vehicles. No mention of the charging network which Tesla has in spades over these other two vehicles
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 7 күн бұрын
Model 3 Performance is the better car overall when factoring in price. BUT the Ioniq 5 is honestly infinitely more fun/ engaging to drive, and is nurburgring capable for 2 laps bone stock. Model 3 struggles to do even 1/4 lap mainly due to brakes and also will definitely overheat either the battery/motors (but US spec model 3 have a better powertrain so less likely to face overheating issues so soon). They seriously are two completely different animals. Id like to see a Ioniq 5N with the narrow body, normal wheels, but keep everything else the same so that it could be better daily for efficiency and range. Luckily the EV6 is gonna do just that next year!! Edit: spelling.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 7 күн бұрын
Go watch Hagerty's video where the M3P had the latest OTA software update which removed the false overheating warnings.
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 7 күн бұрын
@KP-xi4bj even otherwise the brakes are not good enough when they were tested on the nurburgring. It wasn't just false warnings but literal smoke coming from the brakes. Maybe the updated the brake pads or something. Either way, Hagerty's circuit is MUCH slower paced so less heat on the brakes and wear on the powertrain. Also the US spec powertrain is better than the Euro spec. Either way the Model 3 isnt meant to be a track car whereas the Ioniq 5 N is. It has zero cooling problems and is still able 800v fast charge. Model 3 not so much
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 7 күн бұрын
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 So, you didn't watch Hagerty's video? Got it!
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 7 күн бұрын
@KP-xi4bj I did. It slowed down a lot by the end of the session whereas the M3 Comp kept more steady. The Ioniq 5N wouldn't have that issue
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
with SAVINGS , you are better off taking Model 3P to TUNER like Unplugged and getting $5,000 in RACING parts upgrades.
@Terrillthegreat79
@Terrillthegreat79 7 күн бұрын
What happened to the Polstar BST?
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
Polestar is a CHYNA car made by GEELY. under TRUMP administration , Volvo & Polestar are subject to 500% Tariffs. NOBODY in 2025 will buy Volvo or Polestar anymore.
@byrnestuff
@byrnestuff 6 күн бұрын
Should have tested the model Y against the Mach-e to be a fair comparison eg SUV vs SUV not sedan vs SUV
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
Agreed, very odd comparison
@JimmyDeanBallistic
@JimmyDeanBallistic 4 күн бұрын
I would go for the Tesla any day
@looneyyang1326
@looneyyang1326 7 күн бұрын
Add a FL5 to see how it competes.
@PEACEOUTXX1
@PEACEOUTXX1 7 күн бұрын
Videos like these prove over and over that u can never trust a biased tesla owner and their opnions. Great review. 5N has taken the crown. Model 3 looks outdated in terms of looks aswell.
@davothegreat9990
@davothegreat9990 7 күн бұрын
Tesla still has superior performance and battery.
@dosethree-q6b
@dosethree-q6b 7 күн бұрын
You can like Tesla and Hyundai
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 7 күн бұрын
@@davothegreat9990you’re a 🤡! Other than range and a few tenths from a stoplight that’s full on 🧢. The Hyundai is the better car and all head to head reviews prove it. Tesla has been passed my numerous manufacturers in terms of overall performance. They are now just the cheap performance options.
@PEACEOUTXX1
@PEACEOUTXX1 7 күн бұрын
@@davothegreat9990 ehh. It's perfromance isn't nearly as good as tesla owners claim while going downhill and removing weight. Also having to be at a certain SoC and be within 5 min of a supercharger before every run to get a certain time isn't real world. Meanwhile gas cars just need to turn their car on and drive around for 5 min to warm the engine and ur good to go and get the same performance at all times.
@lancemannion4113
@lancemannion4113 7 күн бұрын
Hyundai - heinous and gimmicky, but fun. Tesla - a little mundane, but excellent value and quick! Mustang - surprisingly fun (*they didn't optimize the settings??*) - but a little numb at the limit. I went with the Mach-E and love it!
@alexzahnd2642
@alexzahnd2642 5 күн бұрын
IMPORTANT facts you MISSED out and are crucial to the every day drives, which are 99% of the time, is the EFFICIENCY (Wh/km or Wh/mile) and the weight and the purchased price, all facts which favor significantly the Tesla 3P.
@monaezytwo6513
@monaezytwo6513 16 сағат бұрын
The clear winner is the Tesla. Why you chose the Korean car is a mystery.
@Wankidy
@Wankidy 7 күн бұрын
These two cars should actually be compared with the Model Y performance and not the M3. Please retest next year after the refresh Model Y
@shiftsgiggles962
@shiftsgiggles962 22 сағат бұрын
I guess you can’t show Ioniq 5N lap times, or talk about the Thermodynamics keeping it cool and never overheating or never going into limp mode. And the brakes don’t fade. Can’t show these advances and make Tesla look bad. Geeeees!
@Baldy444
@Baldy444 6 күн бұрын
Shame you didn't include the better value MG XPower
@Tech-Kino2685
@Tech-Kino2685 6 күн бұрын
I had the opportunity to be in all 3 , most definitely the ford in 3rd. But the tesla I've given a chance but never liked it the interior alwyss felt like a shit to me and ride quality wasn't great but the range is for sur erhe best. The ioniq 5 N just left me wanting to drive it more and add it to the garage which i will do soon
@headyhere
@headyhere 7 күн бұрын
#1 mistake - compare a lighter lower center of gravity sedan vs SUVs #2 mistake - not adding $1000 to unpack Mach E GT performance Mach E is designed to be stable all around and corned down while Model 3 will put you in the woods if not careful. I will put Ioniq 5 at first, Mach E at 2nd and Model 3 or Y at last.
@coenmoon-id6rm
@coenmoon-id6rm 7 күн бұрын
Without a doubt N is way to go-
@bl-sw9sl
@bl-sw9sl 5 күн бұрын
hyundai and kia have already recalled their ev's
@willmc4052
@willmc4052 5 күн бұрын
Why compare the model 3 to SUV’s when the Model Y performance would be the more apt comparison.
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
Agreed, it’s a bizarre comparison. One of my partner’s family owns a Model 3 - so cramped inside compared to my Mach E.
@StanislavBD
@StanislavBD 4 күн бұрын
The carbon fiber is real, not faux. Crack a chunk and you can see the weave.
@16green
@16green 7 күн бұрын
Now even the ev6gt produces 641 hp.hope to see it next comparison
@brightmangroup1003
@brightmangroup1003 5 күн бұрын
Predictable verdict
@stanschweitzer5722
@stanschweitzer5722 7 күн бұрын
Why does a road car need drift mode or track mode? Comfort, mileage,cost amd reliability are what matter.
@snowrocket
@snowrocket 7 күн бұрын
You're obviously not someone who enjoys driving fast or would potentially take your car to the track. Some people drag race or auto cross or road race their cars.
@stanschweitzer5722
@stanschweitzer5722 6 күн бұрын
@snowrocket I do enjoy drag racing and hitting curvy roads on motorcycles. These cars are family cars.
@stanschweitzer5722
@stanschweitzer5722 6 күн бұрын
I do really like the Hyundai. It is the one i consider closest to a sports car.
@Jackson-son
@Jackson-son 7 күн бұрын
Definitely Ionq5 N will wim the comparison due to the quality and specifications as well as driving handling/Tanks a lot Edmunds ❤❤
@joshuahines4249
@joshuahines4249 7 күн бұрын
Wound be interesting to see the model Y performance instead of the model 3. The model 3 isn’t technically a crossover or SUV.
@volcalstone
@volcalstone 7 күн бұрын
They knew if they tested the current MYP that all the Telsa fanboys would be outraged so that's why they didn't do it. It wouldn't stand a chance with the 5N or the Mach-E GT. This whole video isn't a fair comparsion as the M3P is a small sedan similar to a Civic. Do you see the Civic being compared to the CR-V? No almost never.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 7 күн бұрын
2025. model Y is the BENCHMARK.
@joshuahines4249
@joshuahines4249 6 күн бұрын
@@markplott4820I give Tesla credit for trying, but it still looks like a fish and not enough separates it from a regular model y. When I’m paying that much for a premium EV, I want it to look the part. IMO the N 5 looks mean and aggressive. Model y still looks like a fish lol Not to mention the simulated clutch, sounds, etc are a true crowd pleaser. Makes it easier to switch to an EV. Not for everyone, but it’s a true driver’s car. The Tesla is a still a straight line beast, that’s about it.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 6 күн бұрын
@@joshuahines4249 - see Tesla model Y 2025.
@joshuahines4249
@joshuahines4249 6 күн бұрын
@@markplott4820yes, you’ve said that already. Not impressed. It looks just like a normal model y loo
@vacheron4728
@vacheron4728 2 күн бұрын
A slight nodge to the Hyundai?? Dude.. With so little in it, and with that massive price difference between the M3 and N, really.... M3 takes it no matter how you cut it.
@dmegahan
@dmegahan 7 күн бұрын
The 2025 is the updated Mach-E and it’s faster. Why didn’t they use that for this new video.
@AdamJakowenko
@AdamJakowenko 6 күн бұрын
2025s aren't out yet. You can order one but deliveries don't start until early 2025
@mattfarrar4566
@mattfarrar4566 6 күн бұрын
The Tesla looks like a $60k car the Hyundai looks like $20k.
@fromisheon4867
@fromisheon4867 7 күн бұрын
I'd choose Hyundai/kia EV cars because they have more physical buttons. Some Hyundai/kia's infotainment and ADAS systems are better than Tesla.
@SantanKGhey1234
@SantanKGhey1234 3 күн бұрын
Why no EV6 GT?
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 7 күн бұрын
Easily call for me personally The I5N
@i.d.6492
@i.d.6492 7 күн бұрын
The I5N is better than the other two. Yes it's more expensive and I feel like tesla is better value for money. However the I5N is more practical has more space and I feel like build quality is better since teslas known to be super cheap.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 6 күн бұрын
That’s what we’ve been told at least.
@yusufcanaktas6929
@yusufcanaktas6929 4 күн бұрын
newer models dont feel cheap
@TESLACARWORLDjr
@TESLACARWORLDjr 6 күн бұрын
Tesla is the best!!!
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
Lol. My family has two Mach E’s and the Model Y. The Tesla build quality was crap - ceiling coming unglued behind the glass, range constantly not even close to advertised, door panel gaps - we dumped it three months ago. I tried to warn my friend not to get Tesla after that experience - he bought a new Model 3. In the first weeks had it back in because the driver window kept falling into the door - oooops the factory forgot the screws. Tesla “quality”
@dbrock1921
@dbrock1921 7 күн бұрын
People like the Ionic5 but it looks like a box on wheels. The Tesla is a bubble. The mustang looks the nicest 👌
@jamesbradford8574
@jamesbradford8574 6 күн бұрын
Oops, you forgot to mention that the Tesla is the safest car in history.
@De_Wukong
@De_Wukong 6 күн бұрын
In history 😂😂😂stf
@Tech-Kino2685
@Tech-Kino2685 6 күн бұрын
I see what you did there 😂
@clu4u
@clu4u 6 күн бұрын
Yup, that’s right. I have the Model Y, the 2nd safest car in history. 🖕🖕🖕stf
@a124as
@a124as 7 күн бұрын
What these ‘reviews’ don’t take into account is using the car. Have you tried to charge a non-Tesla if you ever go on a road trip. It’s a nightmare.
@JonathanEzor
@JonathanEzor 7 күн бұрын
Nope. Fords can use *any* public charger with the right adapters, including Tesla Destination Chargers and Tesla Superchargers.
@AdamJakowenko
@AdamJakowenko 6 күн бұрын
​@@JonathanEzorYup I have a Mach-E and can (and have) charge at any v3 or v4 supercharger and it's so seamless, you just drive up and plug in. Don't even have to take out my phone. Road trips are a breeze
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 7 күн бұрын
Why are you comparing a sedan to 2 “suvs” ?
@AmericasAlgebraTeacher
@AmericasAlgebraTeacher 6 күн бұрын
C’mon, let’s be honest; the 5N is fugly and gimmicky, which will date it quickly. The Mustang is the best looking, but the M3P has the best interior (imho) because of the space, visibility and its bright and airy.
@skycaptain3344
@skycaptain3344 Күн бұрын
The Model 3 interior is small and cramped - I’ve ridden in one multiple times - it’s smaller than the Mach E.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 7 күн бұрын
While Hyundai and Tesla march on making significant improvements, Ford is falling on its face and going backwards charging more for no significant improvement. That OTA “improvement” in performance by software in the Ford is literally fleecing the customer for feature that’s already there. A true ripoff IMO.
@loufadoros20
@loufadoros20 7 күн бұрын
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