Tesla Model S Plaid | Body in White PART 1

Jordan and Kevin take you through everything you need to know about the Model S Plaid Body in White! (Part 1 of 2)
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Outro:
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#Tesla #BodyInWhite #Plaid

[@Anthony1337]

Great job Munro Team! It was so good to meet Sandy and Cory this last weekend at the Cyber Rodeo. You both are super genuine and gave me the time to meet with both of you. A time I’ll never forget. You guys absolutely rock!!

[@CameronChapell]

Question for you @Anthony My hope is to somehow get tickets to future Tesla events, any tips and tricks on how to get tickets? Thanks.

[@Johnny2Feathers]

@@CameronChapell cyber rodeo was invite only. I’m pretty sure most of the 15000 that attended were Tesla employees and Austin area Tesla owners, plus 1 guest for each. But Tesla does have an events page where you can view all events and sign up for them. You can also sign up to be “notified when Tesla events come to your area”

[@CameronChapell]

@@Johnny2Feathers Thank you for the info!

[@TheJesusFreeke]

Thank you for going back and spelling out most of the acronyms for us non- technical people who are punching above our weight class watching this.

[@MunroLive]

You're welcome

[@tsedge99]

Great video and in no way are you two the "B team", your knowledge and professionalism shines through. Yes, everyone loves Sandy and Cory, but this was fascinating and you both have a really engaging presenting style. Thanks.

[@descentplayer]

I think they are the real A Team.

[@RB-pi3jl]

Great explanation, especially of the "inside" terminology for those of us non-automotive, non-engineers.

[@MikeHarris1984]

I never thought about the amount of engineering goes into a "simple" vehicle.... All of the crash allowances, human conveniences, sound deadening... To be an engineer to design and build cars is a MASSIVE undertaking... That they are able to design and build a car in a matter of years is amazing to me... Thank you Sandy and team for putting these videos out there to help the every day man understand more of what it takes and think differently when building...

[@moineaux9173]

You should tank manufacturers like Mercedes’ that developed the ABS/traction control and Volvo with seatbelts for example, one of the most advanced safety features on cars till today

[@NickyDoyle]

Love seeing 2 guys who know their stuff get on well and no ego's or pissing competition.

[@fred993a]

Excellent, excellent structural analysis - thank you Jordan and Kevin!

[@MunroLive]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MunroLive]

We appreciate the kind words!

[@aussie_al]

@@MunroLive guys great job. I was surprised to see that the fire wall appeared not to be universal meaning allowance for manufacturing left and right hand drive. Could that be a cost saver if implemented???

[@jarnotyni3207]

More Jordan and Kevin! Great insight and i love that they also show opinions.

[@britzwickit]

dont sell yourselves short! Jordans speaking style is so lean and to the point, i love it!

[@richardteychenne3950]

Thanks guys, your depth and detail of coverage gives real understanding into the design and manufacturing complexities involved.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Video went on a little bit longer! Win win. Jordan and Kevin your insight to my Model S just brilliant. When I say my model S my current 2014 125,000 uk miles owned from new P85. I engineered in big auto world wide 44 years so got to see a number body in white and pretty much have had most interior/cover panels off my car, I was just interested. As you say there was a good deal of legacy auto in the early S. A good deal of water leaks too, California dont do rain! I specified the no sunroof just black roof option on my white P85, didnt want the C of G to go up carrying glass and mechanisms and cant say seeing the UK grey sky whilst listening to whistling wind and suffering leaks was appealing, plus my cream interior meany they would put in cream Alcantera roof lining, stilll looks so good. Never driven another S that does not have a sun roof but I and others who have driven my car say my car turns in sweetly, my guess is the lower CofG. Anyways still suffered slight leak in the left rear corner of the non sunroof. I took off the rear interior hatch pannels slit a piece of pipe fitted in over the flanged edges of the internals of the roof and a pipe out the boot floor, worked! It was only ever leaking in a cup of water but didnt want my Alcantera staining. The other leak/s was the blowouts / flow through vents in the sides of the boot floor letting in water from the rear lamp gutters, some siliconed on plastic diverters solved that. I can see the improvements in the new body compared to mine and Ive a Plaid on order as well as a Roadster.......still a massive Tesla Fan. What will I do with my P85..................Pick up conversion?

[@markplott4820]

Part 2 - rear end coming soon.

[@nickwulf]

Automotive Benchmarking Thank you guys for doing this, The B team brings their A game

[@CYBRLFT]

Go B Team! Haha. Love any insight from the Munro team. Can’t get enough of you guys!

[@bbk3078]

Natural on camera. Not disappointed at all about the 'b team'. We just want to hear the experts talk passionately about what they see.

[@Roguescienceguy]

B-team? Jordan, you are by far the best of the bunch. Kevin is a genuinely knowledgeable guy too. I ain't complaining

[@THSonGoogle]

Every team from Munro&Associates is an A team, nobody is dissapointed

[@somebodypeculiar]

Great job! As much as I appreciate what Sandy adds, these guys give a more comprehensive and technical view, especially without Sandy interrupting and restating things.

[@rdyer8764]

Great team work. You guys work well together.

[@bernesto2468]

Solid job in explaining the challenges and approaches needed to create and then build a safe vehicle, given the extra weight of EVs it presents extra challenges. It is also interesting that Tesla seems to do more than traditional OEMs in continuous refinement on arguably a low volume vehicle .

[@markplott4820]

TESLA biw structure does more than any other OEM. and IF Model S/X volume is increased, they should go to Megacasting for Superior NVH , Safety, and savings.

[@markplott4820]

if model S/X goes to 3 parts underbody w/ structural pack and Megacasting, the BIW would be better, safer, cost less. but needs higher volume production to be viable.

[@markplott4820]

see - Tesla video - safety testing.

[@AudiTTQuattro2003]

@@markplott4820 ...which means it doesn't cost less unless you have the volume, and you don't constantly make structural changes.

[@RogerM88]

Are you aware the Mercedes-Benz EQS in technology is far more advanced than any Tesla on the market? Level 3 Autonomous driving, hyper screen, comfort, charging speeds and so many features? Maybe fanboys should start to look outside Tesla in BEVs.

[@gna89]

Thanks for not rushing this section of the car

[@mjcamp01]

Thanks to Jordan for the brief explanations of the abbreviations for non-engineers, very helpful

[@user-wjl1568]

I respect you guys. You guys are not B team.

[@jeremypmerrill]

Seems like maybe the lower volume S and X don't get the same obsessive focus on continuous improvement the way the 3 and Y do when you see all the "band-aid" improvements.

[@navtown]

Y’all are amazing! Keep up the good work.

[@tonyguerich9854]

Great job. Munro is Sandy but not just Sandy. Great to see Sandy trusting his team to carry the flag.

[@zon3884]

Apologies if this was explained elsewhere, but something that has been really troubling me is the thought of an accident with the new casting in the model Y. It’s great for accidents that are severe because the occupants will be protected. In smaller collisions will the car be totaled at a lower threshold because of the casting? If it will be totaled, will this likely increase insurance prices? Also will it just take an extremely long time to get your vehicle repaired because you have to reassemble the car with the new casting?

[@imconsequetau5275]

In "minor" front accidents only the front section of the rectangular tubes will crush. These can be cut-off and replaced. The back ends of these tubes are wrapped with additional metal so that area stays intact longer unless more energy must be absorbed. Still, I think even if the complex areas of the castings are still intact, the vehicle may be a write-off due to the large number of other damaged components: fenders, hood, auxiliary systems, radiator, octo-valve, steering, suspension, etc.

[@zon3884]

@@imconsequetau5275 thank you for the response, that was some good insight. Once real world data comes in, I suppose it’ll become clearer.

[@EricP36]

Love the thumbnail! Good job Munro Live Team!!!

[@MunroLive]

Thanks Eric

[@alphadog6970]

More like A2 team. Great video 👍👍

[@andrewvercillo6225]

Love Jordan!!! He’s definitely better than Cory!!! Lol ! But seriously I think everyone on the team that has done a video has been super eloquent and great to listen to. Keep up the great work guys. Kevin great job as well!

[@moreboost]

Awesome job guys was an eye opener and gives me greater respect for engineering.

[@AndyRRR0791]

Definitely not the B team. Great presentation!

[@DessieDoolan]

3:35. Structural adhesive. I’ve been speculating that the Cybertruck is basically 2 or 3 mega castings (front casting, passenger compartment casting or stamped/welded steel, and rear casting) bolted together, and that the ‘exoskeleton’ stainless steel panels will be glued to these castings. So it was nice to hear of the strength of adhesive in an automotive application.

[@Firestorm637]

Mass production is a hell. Making everything fit properly over and over again as fast as possible.

[@djnavari]

Excellent technical presentation keep them coming. We like the range of presenters

[@avasolaris1]

Great stuff again. I learnt a lot about vehicle manufacturing today. Thanks.

[@sagarmeena0210]

Tesla Plaid is the best car imo

[@markplott4820]

Tesla Plaid best made car period, safest car, fun to drive.

[@zainasani2206]

Really appreciate the work. Just one suggestion, can you guys focus also on what is better and what is not that great. For someone who wants to learn these things a contrast is easier to understand.

[@na1067]

Thank you so much Team A :)

[@randolphtorres4172]

I love watching these it makes me think.

[@Hitman006xp]

Great B Team ! Sandy could take a day off more often ;) Very professional episode.

[@davidelliott5843]

Back in the 1990s, the German motorcycle manufacturer MZ commissioned a British designer. He used three aluminium castings for steering and rear suspension mount joined with aluminium tubes bonded into the castings. The company welded the joints because they refused to believe the adhesive could do the job. They failed on costs but worse the welds caused the tubes to mis-align. Some welds cracked in use causing warranty problems. The company refused to consider new technology and went broke as a result.

[@mathew00]

I don't believe in a "B team". I think that is a overall negative mentality to have. Great video!

[@theredmonkey]

You guys were very informative.

[@rustynickel2356]

Great work Team and since the Tesla Model S Plaid is 4 door sedan super car, probably better to compare the Tesla to other 4 door sedan super cars on the market, instead of a low performance Ford or other low performance OEM model. Oh, that’s right. No other OEM makes a 4 door sedan super car 🧐😊🤓💪☕️🤠🚀🚀🐥

[@thebotformalityknownasdale2564]

I would realy like to know what will be provided for the autobody people specifically if you get into a front corner accident will they have full precast partitions to cut out the damaged section and weld in all new sections . My thinking is I can't stand the thought of writing off a fender bender and offering aftermarket parts that a good body man with a tig can fix to new specs.

[@AudiTTQuattro2003]

...your insurance company is wondering the same thing. If rates go up, you might have your answer.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

Yes, very good vid!

[@dougk5456]

Great job guys. I really understand a lot more now about the 'why' of things.

[@johntyson1958]

Great video. Remember to watch out for acronyms 🧐

[@Firestorm637]

Very interesting engineering especially with crash worthiness issues

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Last I heard it was still 5 star across the board.. has that changed?

[@kent888021]

Thank you from malaysia

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗 NOT AT ALL…JORDAN AND KEVIN… MONROE’s B TEAM …IS IMHHO STILL AN A TEAM 👍😎😍😍😍

[@Pandaplaya123]

You guys should tear down the onewheel from future motion.

[@notvaporlocked5479]

These guys are good!

[@__--JY-Moe--__]

nice under coating! breaking down that quality engineering!! moving the future forward!! good luck with it!! watch out 4 Fred & Wilma!!---->look-out! multi-holes, also displace sound! yup! way 2 go Sabic!

[@zaferroni]

You guys rock.

[@jerrysweas6062]

With all of the consternation among subscribers (~150 comments before thread was closed off) to Electrek following a recent posting about the specs of the new Giga Texas Model Y SR available for now only to Tesla employees, I would like to hear from the Munro team as to their thoughts on any concerns passing the crash test with the front & rear single castings.

[@ichitensho7075]

im surprised that they dont use much tubing for more structural symmetry like race cars uses to be safer and those tubing can be made light and solid.

[@joshuasmith7369]

I could have y'all's expertise, when I was still trying to win a pinewood derby contest in boy scouts.

[@jerrysweas6062]

While watching this Body in White KZbin clip, I started wondering how much better/safer the 2022 Model Y SR (currently being made at Giga Texas & being sold for now only to Tesla employees) will be with single front & rear castings. The only caveat I have is not yet seeing the crash test results for this new SR model posted on the NHTSA website. Anyone else share my concern?

[@suggesttwo]

Large A pillar obstructs vision. Better to never crash in the first place.

[@charlesballiet7074]

def prefer a offensive to a defensive set up as that hopfully means cheaper repair bills because its less dammage to less structure

[@smoot96]

Brb gotta look at some crash tests real quick

[@AllYouWantAndMore]

Finally more Tesla Plaid content!!

[@teslabot5650]

where is the rest of the front? No front wheel wells..... compared to the 3/Y front castings... It looks like half the front end is missing.

[@davidnormandin5428]

I was involved in building roll gages for stock cars in the mid-sixties -- didn't know how naive we were.

[@sebastiant5695]

Small overlap is very common in city environments. I know Tesla tries to avoid them, with autopilot and such. But Volvos are just so much better in those crash. You should tear down one.

[@mntbighker]

I'd be interested in hearing how angular (or polar) moment of inertia plays into ICE vs EV in these crash tests. Especially that test where you want as little rotation as possible when the barrier impacts the headlight area. EV have all that weight, and a very low CG.

[@AudiTTQuattro2003]

...and extra weigh, which is never good for crash energy dissipation. This BIW looks like a truck frame.

[@rajanvr6688]

Why is it that No model X has been torn down or analyzed.?

[@Insuranceization]

I'm confused - does this model have the giga press casting?

[@toninocars]

Are they any engineers from Boeing working at Tesla? There have never been so much in common between a car body and an aircraft body 👌👍

[@reedkelly6145]

PLEASE!!!!! Sandys current top 10 EV vehicles in order. I know he has said his list in the middle of other videos, making it hard to find. A dedicated video maybe twice a year, January current top 10 and then a July top 10. Yes is subjective, but based on Sandys opinion of vehicle quality, battery, space, design, etc. how HE ranks the top 10 EVs currently on market. PLEASE. Things change so much, so many vehicles, really would help people understand the good vs the bad.

[@Firestorm637]

Tesla practically making monthly revisions vs other manufacturers 5 year or replacement 10 year. I owned a dodge that kept going through power window problems. They factory wanted to use up the old before the new redesigned.

[@dannyotter7247]

Another fascinating and insightful vid, even if it was the B team - More in crash dynamics and designed inputs please!

[@JRattheranch]

Well done both! You can always trust a man that wears brown shoes Kevin, to give you an honest breakdown 😂! I studied automotive engineering at Leyland in the 60's and all my lecturer's wore brown shoes! 🙄🤭

[@charleswillcock3235]

I understand your comment l doubt Kevin will!

[@sonlyme4445]

Whisper it, but the B team is better than the A team imo. Though B fail to convey the same deep dissatisfaction with executive foolishness. This specification rightly belongs to team A. 👍

[@nonamesl3f7duuude]

Looks like the m3 during initial ramp?

[@justinpeterson7246]

Good job B team 😄 🤣

[@jerrygaber6150]

Makes me wonder if cars were engineered with mice in mind. They love some of those materials and wires. Not often mentioned among enthusiasts.

[@MicrogravityMischief]

LUV you guys btw.....

[@tommac5411]

Is the metal aluminum or steel? Or a combination?

[@SUPERHEAVYBOOSTER]

When I go to my barber I show him pictures of the guys from Munro for the cut to get.

[@iamthepeterman54]

Holy cow.

[@auntpatty]

No offense to the guys Sandy but the only videos I will watch are the ones that you do personally.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

I don't think anyone is offended.

[@et9678]

Oops! You didn't cover the VIN! !

[@durkjenkins578]

Guess Mr Munro does not care?

[@nicholaspatton1742]

The notion that this is now an antiquated way of building a car. For Tesla the plaid is antiquated Vs the giga press 3 part chassis. I thought why am i not seeing those giant castings. Conclusion: the plaid is old school....lol

[@xploration1437]

Is it always cold there, lol?

[@Juarusto]

👍

[@RogerM88]

Reading some comments lately, many would think Tesla is the only Automaker in the World using robots in the Assembly lines. Where robots efficient in their function aren't design in a humanoid shape.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Funny, haven't seen a comment like that yet. Making it up so you can pretend you have a point? That's pathetic. Seek professional help.

[@RogerM88]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom plenty of people "impressed" with the welding work of the unibody. As with the access panels in the Model Y. As like it wasn't already been done years ago by other Automakers.

[@RogerM88]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom here is an example. Bernesto: (...) It is also interesting that Tesla seems to do more than traditional OEMs in continuous refinement on arguably a low volume vehicle".

[@privatename123]

Suddenly this seems so obsolete, with the Giga TX Y having front and rear mega castings and a structural battery pack between them. Funny how the cheaper vehicle beet the luxury one to mkt with these dramatic improvements.

[@jerrysweas6062]

"Improvements" cannot be verified until Tesla announces results of crash tests of this Giga Texas made new Model Y SR.

[@fieldlab4]

Are you guys seriously wondering about the structural gap at the firewall? The break necessary for controlled impact absorption and deflection? Seriously?

[@fieldlab4]

Can you say crush zone?

[@uldislatiss]

It's awesome how all of you at Munro are just naturally great in front of the camera and your way of describing things are so easily comprehensible to a wide scope of people with no engineering background! Awesome job on the video production as well, the channel is growing fast.

[@MunroLive]

We appreciate the kind words!!

[@kabysummit5801]

... B team lol 😆 I really appreciate your thoroughness

[@kevind4850]

I agree with that. If only other folks I know could geek-out in such an eloquent and understandable way.

[@kylereese4822]

@@MunroLive Basically its built in a way to keep the front wheel and component's on long enough to absorb and tuck up against the front door post and by that time the impact has happened and the impact forces have been dissipated through the chassis, and the Aliens inside have been cocooned in airbags at the height of impact....

[@nononsenseBennett]

Yes, a real asset to the EV community

[@duaneerstad6694]

While I appreciate humility, none of you are "B team." It's surprising how Munro people are of consistent quality as well as articulate. Good job!

[@hectorarcelus6602]

I really appreciate Munro videos. It is incredible how complex it is to design and assemble a modern vehicle. Thank you for the depth of the discussion.

[@MunroLive]

Well said, Hector!

[@eddiegardner8232]

Based on what I have seen, there are no "B" teams at Munro. All "A" teams, IMHO.

[@blackbusiness7]

Bring back the "B team" from time to time. We need more content from this duo.

[@Trent-tr2nx]

From time to time? I prefer these guys over Sandy and Cory

[@blackbusiness7]

@@Trent-tr2nx That is because you have a very technical mind and can appreciate the engineering lingo/industry jargon. You are in good company. Sandy may be a better communicator for the arm chair engineers and liberal art majors out there which may be the majority of his viewers (I am guessing).

[@Trent-tr2nx]

@@blackbusiness7 fair point!

[@boostav]

@@Trent-tr2nx Agreed, these guys are the real A-team.

[@martinmuldoon8166]

These two guys are incredible. What a fantastic explanation of the complexity of Body in White. Cheers!

[@MicrogravityMischief]

everyone keeps talking about the front and rear castings... casting casting casting... but the thing is that tesla's casting machines also induce extreme pressure to the molten metal... to me this is a grey area between casting and forging and if I had to bet, id bet that the metallurgic properties are kind of mixed.... the benefits of forgings are achieved ill bet(granted its speculation) but the casting benefits are the shape of the casting/forging.... i think its genius, and as far as slip... im not an engineer(im NDT) but i think in some respects zero slip at connection point "A" leads to zero slip at "Z" but if i had to guess a ten thousandths of slip at "A" leads to upwards of .125" slip at "M"? "R"?"Z'? they add up and angular misalignment only gets worse over time right(time distance) if you were called out i would resort to the idea that the manufacturing plant is the product and the "PRODUCT" IS ALWAYS ITERATING!!!!

[@rmkep]

Yet another content rich video from Monroe. You don't have to be an engineer to enjoy these but if you do enjoy them, it is because you are intellectually curious. I find myself looking forward to these VLOGS and they almost never dissapoint. Great work Team Monroe and keep em coming.

[@OnigoroshiZero]

You are amazing guys, thank you for all the extra work you do for us.

[@MunroLive]

Thanks for watching!

[@dougdority5589]

This kind of content is why I watch this channel

[@MunroLive]

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