Tesla Model Y & 3 ultimate real range test. What happens beyond zero and when you run out of battery

[@RSEV]

Efficiency table (sorry it wasn’t in video!) Model 3 - 235 wh/mi (4.26 mi/kWh / 14.6kwh/100km) Useable capacity: 69 kWh Final range: 293 Model Y - 264 wh/mi (3.79 mi/kWh / 16.4 kWh/100km) Useable capacity: 76kwh Final Range: 289

[@MrGMawson2438]

So having a bigger body make's the difference ?

[@commuterbranchline8132]

That’s a very close second for the model Y given the 20’s and the extra weight and size. I wonder how close they would be if both were on 18’s or 19’s?

[@teslasnek]

You need to repeat this on a Tesla Model 3/Y that has the new lithium-ion 12V battery to see if it shuts down the same way!

[@RSEV]

@@teslasnek mine does have the lithium 12v…!

[@teslasnek]

@@RSEV Oh ok, lol nevermind then 😄 Did you state that? Maybe I missed it

[@EhabAboud]

Fantastic video! Really enjoyed this one. It's indescribably useful to know what happens to these cars. Sometimes the unknown is scarier and this helps paint a picture

[@MaximilienBaudA]

I agree with all of this. WELL DONE!!!

[@factfulness-perleth7764]

Losers cant afford a Tesla, so why do you worry?

[@chris-adams-tas]

Big thumbs up. Good point about Hannah's power supply being fundamentally a "petrol station".

[@garnerdix2829]

As a matter of fact, you could potentially go to an actual petrol station and use an electric outlet there to charge up a little in a pinch. That would be kinda hilarious.

[@contactluke80]

For those who are curious re the SR LFP - I have a 60kwh model and did this test in Australia, outside temp was 19 Celsius and dry, 18” Michelin Pilot Sport 4 at 45 PSI with aero covers. I managed 248miles (400 km) from 100% - 0%. Driving speed averaged 60mph over the journey. Also worth noting that the LFP M3 isn’t that much lighter than the LR due to the heavier battery chemistry - I think there is only 100kg difference now on the bigger 60Kwh SR M3

[@RSEV]

Great info. Love the LFP. How much did car say was used kWh ?

[@contactluke80]

@@RSEV consumption was 144wh / km - I think that’s about 230wh / mile over the 400kms -57kWh used. I should note that my car is a late 2021 - known over here as a unicorn model as it had the previous SR+ rear motor combined with the new ~60kWh battery. The 2022 M3 SR have the slightly less sprightly motor - and may be even more efficient.

[@tpn3561]

@@contactluke80 I have the same LFP single motor model Y here in China and so far the overall average consumption is 112Wh/km. Once, driving carefully, I run for over 450 km and it still indicated 5% battery left (I didn't dare go below that). Usually I have over 430 km with a full charge, driving normally, but for me it's all in the never ending city (ground + elevated roads with speed limit of 90 or 110 km/h). If I charge at home after 10pm a full charge would cost me less than 3 usd, so here it's very convenient to drive electric :)

[@Backjack31]

Is your battery 100% SOH?

[@tpn3561]

@@Backjack31 when it was brand new I could charge it up to 432 km "real range". Now, after 9 months I can charge it to 428 km. So it seems like a 1% loss, which they say it's normal in the first year (then the degradation slows down).

[@ramblerandy2397]

Excellent and informative video. Truth is, unless we ordinary drivers are super stupid, we'll never encounter this scenario. But it's nice to know. And thank you Hannah for the happy ending. 😊

[@karimgreen8732]

Incredible video… it deserves far more than a ‘like & comment’ for all the time and effort spent to create this!

[@RSEV]

😊 thank you

[@EldestClock]

Great video, thanks for all the time & effort making these! Any chance you could do an info video on what you had to do to get it going again? Some people might not know where the 12volt is even or how to open the doors / charge flap without power

[@RSEV]

Yes will be filming a short episode specifically what to do when dies.

[@mrDoveRock]

Own a model 3..2years now...never knew about the 12v...

[@johnmckay1423]

@@RSEV Can you test opening the frunk with a 9V PPE battery? I've read that it's possible - interesting to see if it works.

[@NattyFlump]

Got a Model YLR on order and it's REALLY useful to see videos like this, giving insight into exactly what happens if someone does this. As you mention in the video I doubt many people will experience this given all the warnings you get, but I would never have thought to pop the frunk or drop the window a little in anticipation of the 12V system failing. Thank you

[@maxflight777]

Love your videos ! Factual and fair. The MY weighs 351 Lbs more and has a much greater frontal area… so I think it does pretty well !

[@Warekiwi]

Excellent video thanks. As a new Y owner and BEV newbie this is essential viewing IMHO! Now I need to go out and locate the 12v terminals! Your notes about not locking oneself out of the car are invaluable!

[@RSEV]

Glad useful but probably something you’ll never encounter. We’ll make another short video about what to do in the event of a flat

[@markshirley7639]

Just bought model y long range , best car I've ever owned !! Traded in n bmw x3 ! No contest 👍

[@chaoticstylez]

I just picked up my model Y and already have range anxiety. Charged to 80% on Monday and by Thursday its at 20 with not much use. This whole 80/20 thing is crazy.

[@spikebmth]

With our crappy Hyundai 12V, we always carry a booster pack, saved us on our trip to London last week, to wake up the 12V system! Interesting how quick your 12V went down. Another great real world test.

[@spikebmth]

Just an update, Hyundai replaced our 12V battery, after 18 months, as one of cells was damaged so not holding voltage. ICE car batteries not really suitable for EVs

[@thomasjacques5286]

I have always wanted to see a Tesla going BEYOND ZERO to DEAD. I drove mine to ZERO but only by a few miles. Didn't have the courage to go further. And your right the car provides plenty of warning before getting stranded. If you run out of charge and get stranded it's human error. Thanks for doing this.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

If you’re interested, Edmunds did a test for EVs after 0% and found that most teslas get around 12-26 miles after they hit 0%. Think it was 12 for the model Y and like 20-25 for the model 3’s. Definitely good to know in the worst case scenario you’ve still got a good bit after 0% in case you need it

[@thomasjacques5286]

@@philorgneopolotin8762 thanks for the info, I have not seen that but will look for it now. Cheers

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

@@thomasjacques5286 Edmunds is probably the worst place to go for Tesla info, but outside the editorial shenanigans you can still find interesting info indeed. It's surprising how much reserve range the batteries had in their testing, despite them mysteriously "discounting" it in their testing afterwards - with some bogus excuses that TeslaDaily had a nice dissection of, along with an interesting interview with the editor.

[@nielsvandenkieboom5034]

Autoblog also has videos on this. Their videos are in Dutch, but they tend to have English subtitles. They have tested Tesla’s, but also test multiple other cars at the same time for a good comparison. I think Carwow also has a few videos on this, they are UK based.

[@simonhobbs9097]

Great video Richard, really good to see how the Tesla reacts to 0% and beyond.

[@JakesRandomAdventures]

Amazing content - I’ve a Model Y LR 7 seater and wanted to try this out but backed off in fear of not knowing what to do. Your video helps dispel those fears and makes us feel at home.

[@sydjaguar]

This channel is soon becoming the best source of EV knowledge! Probably open your charge flap before it dies.

[@RSEV]

Even if open flap it needs 12v to lock cable and initiate a charge. Which is silly.

[@iainweller452]

Great episode, this is exactly what I want to see, just the kind of information we want 👍

[@troyboy4345]

Just the sort of video I was hoping you would do ... gives me more info, for my Model Y purchase later this year, Thank you ... Test driving one next week in Leeds !

[@imamiddleagedman]

You won’t be disappointed. Test drove both but the Y is leaps ahead in space and practicality. Mine is due in 4 weeks 😁

[@troyboy4345]

@@imamiddleagedman Thnx matey ... can't wait !

[@jasonmugridge]

Great video Richard, I think when people do these sorts of test it would be interesting to bring a similar performance petrol and diesel along as the EV haters always say they could just fill up with a can of fuel, I'd be interested to see what actually happens, especially with the diesel.

[@charlesvanderhoog7056]

A video for people who are in a FUD about EVs. It is amazing how many miles one could drive after the battery has gone "0%".

[@dotancohen]

How is the screen shown normally when the rest of the video is mirrored left to right? Right down to the logo on the steering wheel.

[@mr.mister6900]

Excellent and very useful vid. Jolly well done. I own a model 3 myself. But in the worst case scenario, absolute total battery depletion, and one’s now locked out of their car, what then? What would be the process to open the frunk to attach a charger? Just out of interest.

[@derekwhite5090]

I enjoyed that. You test it, so we don’t have to, Thank you. Also seeing this boosts our overall confidence in our vehicles to not worry so much with an approaching LOW State of charge!!

[@kch1888]

Great video - been watching a lot of your content over the past few weeks. Collect my Model Y on Thursday coming out of a 2021 X5 40d, and this will be my first foray into the world of BEVs!

[@RSEV]

👏🏼

[@maxflight777]

I was “lucky” enough to keep both the X5 and MY for 8 days after collecting the Tesla. When I drove the X5 to the dealer, on day 8, (after 1500 miles in the MY ) I was quite shocked at how “jiggly“ the ride felt and how “old-fashioned” and slow the X5 was Enjoy your new car Kevin and don’t hesitate to download the acceleration boost.(assuming you haven’t already purchased the “performance model “) 😂

[@chrissherlock1257]

Well done Richard and Gints. Extremely useful to know what happens down to zero!

[@BrianFraser]

Great video. To be fair modern ICE sports cars seem to need their batteries looked after almost as much as an EV.

[@neilheaton2919]

Fantastic video. My model y turns up next month can't wait.

[@MCSMIK]

Great video. Pretty good damn extreme. But you proved the point that there’s a charger in every house. As you did plug in to a random persons house and guess what, charged. So many people don’t appreciate what that really means don’t they

[@thevideoark]

Thank you gents for a very informative and useful real world test. These tests are what it’s all about and must help ely concerns.

[@pauln4192]

Great video - thank you for doing this. Before seeing your video, I would be very wary to go less than 10% state of charge in my model 3 LR. Having watched your experience I feel happier to push things more. I also appreciated your advice about dropping windows and popping the frunk if you do run out! Thanks again!

[@pareshpanchal91]

Good test! Could you maybe explain in a future video about towing? You mentioned that you're not supposed to tow the car?

[@bamshdigitalmarketing]

The best channel for Tesla videos. Another informative video. Thank you.

[@kevinjohnson3738]

This is an awesome video! And looks like the Model Y was able to go about 10 miles or 5% further once it first displayed 0%.

[@iangough7659]

Great video, you have answered what a lot of people would like to know what actually happens when you get to 0%.

[@pablopirineos]

That's what I expected. The Model 3 LR is much faster and agile with more range and the Y is slower and less range. Who had thought that the Y was going to be better than the Model 3? Just more room but it looks a fat car. Thanks for such an interesting video. You can't imagine how I enjoyed my Tesla roadtrip from Spain to England and Scotland. It was one of the best experiences of my life. Just one problem at the Dover Ferry terminal, there were so many cars so they held up traffic and had to wait there for 4 hours, watching Netflix :)

[@RSEV]

Well the Y has bigger battery, so end result is very very similar range

[@MrPikkoz]

@@RSEV yeah but hasn't the M3 LR late 2021 onward a 80ish kWh battery in place of the 75ish kWh ?

[@RSEV]

@@MrPikkoz no as said at beginning of video, in the UK we’ve only ever had a 75 pack for the 3 lr

[@Harakai100]

@@RSEV Seems rather surprising that it would say 76kwh added on the supercharger in that case. My 21 M3 with 82kwh Panasonic pack said 77kwh added when new charging from 0-100%

[@mattburford2035]

I’m awaiting delivery on a model Y RWD with 20 inch wheels, do you have any videos on one of these? Great channel by the way I’m learning lots about Teslas!

[@JohnAdams-kc8wx]

You have the best EV channel on KZbin Richard.

[@RSEV]

☺️ thanks. Share it about. Pays for the time to make more 👍🤝

[@Jaw0lf]

Impressive test and great that you had at least 10 miles extra from reaching zero. They were at a slower pace, but the amount of warnings should put everyones mind at rest for running an EV. To be fair if anyone had an EV with V2L you would have been easy to recharge! Also impressed that the larger Model Y did so well.

[@adamtyson1463]

Brilliant range test, best I have seen. Thank you, thank-you, thank-you. Have Model 3P getting a YP when they come out in Oz for the Mrs.

[@tinyman-b7d]

Another fantastic and informative video. Thank you guys.

[@tessywessy7605]

Excellent video from Team Symons, well done. We need to know the things we would never dare do ourselves, thanks.

[@sultanramzan1983]

Really appreciate the effort and time you put into your videos, they are so informative and enjoyable to watch. I live over 100 miles away from your showroom, but when I am ready to buy an EV most likely will be from a trusted knowledgeable seller like you and your team . Well done 👍

[@allenadahoo]

Thank you so much for that. Long been waiting for that comparison

[@cotswoldmusings]

This is excellent thanks. My Wife is about to collect her MYLR moving from Macan 3LD with 85 litre fuel tank range, so this is massively helpful to know. Plus U.K. based, as the US videos are based on different everything so thanks 😊.

[@josephman624]

Another great informative video! Great tip on cracking open doors windows frunk to access battery so you can jump to allow charging port to connect .

[@judebrown4103]

I laughed out loud when you said you were thinking of driving on the A303! It's years since I drove on it but even then it wasn't any different to how you found it. 😂

[@RSEV]

Yeah crazy. I always avoid it hence thought middle of a Wednesday it can’t be that bad can it…. Yep! U-turn

[@judebrown4103]

@@RSEV oh well if you actually *had* that thought...! Never have thoughts like that! 😂 Great video, so much better to know what happens than to wonder. I'm sure that will help with range anxiety when I'm eventually able to 'go ev', thanks. 👍

[@jasondh1972]

Brilliant video. Best one I've seen and as a model 3 long range owner there is some really important stuff to be aware of. Thanks.

[@henriquerochelle]

Excellent video! My model X almost gave 0 % ! But I managed to get to the charger! iInfrastructure problem in Brazil!

[@markstewart7559]

Great video, very interesting. Thank you for doing this so we don’t have to!

[@deand1696]

The content is getting better and better! Really informative and entertaining at the same time. Great job 👏

[@DJones1861]

Love it! Great demonstration of extremes.

[@CaseyDogovich]

You can infer the useable battery capacity from the 5/15/30 mile energy use graph and their reported range for average energy consumption. The 2022 LR these calculate to 79KWh, 2019 P was 70KWh.

[@TheJimODonovan]

Best video yet. Thank you.

[@jasonblair4057]

Great video, a test many people will appreciate. Real world range. 👍👍

[@bonzyb]

Excellent video. Now I will not worry when I get down to 4 percent state of charge at arriving home.

[@sidwilson9556]

Excellent test. Really informative. I will make sure I charge at around 260 miles in my model 3 from now on to avoid total outage as you had. And thanks to Hannah !

[@lhrflyguy]

My Hyundai Kona 23 did not fair anywhere near as well. Tried to do a 13mile journey with 28 miles on the clock only for it to go from 20miles left to zero within seconds and immediately went into turtle mode. Managed 1/2 mile in turtle mode then died. Yes I now always charge when reaching 50 miles left.

[@hibbs79]

Great video always enjoy when you do these types of videos thanks. 👍

[@iangough7659]

So glad I came across your channel and subscribed today. You have convinced me to take the plunge and buy a Tesla, just need to decide on a Model 3 or Model Y. The missus will finally get her wish of having an electric car. Keep up the good work.

[@RSEV]

Welcome!! 3 or Y are great. I suggest 3 unless you really need that extra space and practicality. 3 is more efficient and sharper to drive.

[@iangough7659]

@@RSEV Thankyou for that. I had also looked at the head space in the back of the Y and decided the 3 was the way to go. For where we live in the North East of Scotland and also with the recent truthful article on how bad the Scottish charging network is , will go for a long range AWD ( quite icy conditions in winter ) and also the winter range ( even though not too many long trips planned each year) for reassurance in the back of the mind that we can get to there and back home safely without needing to recharge. A lot of vandalism of chargers as well in certain areas where we would travel to. So once again, Thankyou. And most likely we will do a road trip down your way sometime by mid 2023 to coincide visiting our daughter in London so my wife can truthfully see the various cars.

[@lorenzobruschettini]

Your videos are really well made. Ciao from Florence Italy

[@alexnutcasio936]

Hey mate, Multi-Tesla owner here. Something may be amiss with the 12v on the Y. Bringing the main battery pack down to zero or below should not drain the 12v too. Ask me how I know. I am well aware of early Model S having 12v battery issues and car just shuts down, but not being able to get out due to 12v being run down? Need to get that checked because the main battery charges the 12v, but the 12v should not get run down just because the main 77kwh pack does. There should always be residual in the 12v to open doors etc. You owe Hannah a few quid for her troubles or at least a nice dinner.

[@RSEV]

Yes it’s silly that the 12v went. Not sure I’ll be able to get any answer from Tesla as to why

[@nettlesoup]

@@RSEV There were some software tweaks for the Li-Ion auxiliary battery charging logic in a recent OTA update. Definitely worth following up with Tesla so they can make further tweaks if necessary.

[@raydoherty5419]

Great video!!! What interesting is my wife will be doing regular Philly to Pittsburgh (280 miles- our son is starting college in Pittsburgh) and I need to coach her to make it to the V3 that’s 220 miles into the trip (she drives at like 90 - model Y performance) as this will save her time Instead of hammering it and stopping at the V2 that’s 175 miles into the trip. She can’t do it though!! She just can’t slow down to 75-80.

[@SerSpitfire]

Would probably have got just over 300 on the stock 19 inch wheels! That's great

[@mattwilmshurst8456]

Great video. So to conclude is it approx 10 miles after 0% hits?

[@mansfield1971]

Superb test....saves us finding out the hard way. Great to know theres still some miles after 0.

[@markharrison4808]

Great video. Do you know how many miles you ended up covering after 'You must charge' warning and after hitting 0%? Useful to get an estimate of how negative you can go, -3%, -5%? Mark

[@RSEV]

It’s in there but I did 14 miles after 0% About -4%/5% or 3 kWh

[@YeOldeTraveller]

I think the key takeaway from this is the degree of warning that you get before you are stuck. You got the warning about known chargers, you got zero estimated range, you even got a pull over now before if crashed completely. It is also worth noting that you could recover with power from literally anywhere. It is also good go know that you need to protect the 12V battery. I had a hybrid that had a standard ICE battery which is wholly unsuited to the use profile it saw as it never saw a high current draw and was held at the float level all the time. I was quite embarrassing when that died and I needed a jump.

[@paull123]

Thanks Richard. Most useful.

[@mariopedroza1516]

So is the cars more efficient driving it during the day or at night?

[@DrogoNevets]

Great video, thank you 1 questions though did you precondition cars before leaving or was it from cold?

[@stevebuckley8620]

The question is, how long would you need to tow it to recharge it from 0-100%.

[@RSEV]

Hmm good question… can probably be worked out with a bit of maths tbh

[@FrozenDung]

A long long time

[@ptrsrrll]

And how much would it cost to do the towing??

[@diavalus]

@@ptrsrrll Engineering Explained did the math/test

[@cyrilyxe]

I think there is a latch for unlocking the port charge from the trunk

[@peterblythe5219]

Great video, but would nice to see the stats for the M3LR as well

[@ApteraEV2024]

Good work Guys, Science Enough for me)))

[@robertfay7750]

Great video and very helpful to know especially for a new tesla owner

[@simonharrison2772]

Always really enjoy your videos,, very informative and fun… not to mention all that magnificent countryside

[@tglatthard]

Great video but was it necessary to charge the phone?

[@RSEV]

I’ll do it again without phone charging and see if can make 1 more metre…

[@noelyboy6969]

What the suspension like on the Y with the 20 inch wheels.

[@philroy818]

Yes you can tow charge - I fact it's possibly the best way to get a charge if nothing is available.

[@therandomvlogs]

awesome. Thank you for the video! im schocked the Model 3 didn't get much more

[@gurya]

Great video good to know this info! Thanks

[@andrewnewton9137]

Great test and results. Well done

[@sdfessexselfdefence4508]

Hi Richard regarding load weight ie passenger and luggage maximum for Model Y, do you know what the maximum Kg is please?

[@yngverodli]

Great video Richard. My next electric vehicle is going to be a Tesla Y or 3. Thank you. BTW. where did you buy the grey jacket with yellow inside?

[@babylon5mh]

It's great that you are able to take the time out of your obviously busy schedule to do videos like this. Fantastic video, thank you. I'm wondering what difference there would be between the Model 3 heatpump as opposed to the none heatpump version. I'm going to have a Model 3 but I'm not sure if the extra cost between the 2 is really worth it. Keep up the good work, Richard. It's greatly appreciated 👍 👏

[@bobbyport]

Very interesting with useful real world info. Thanks very much!

[@stevendu5914]

Could you please show a video on the steps to connect and charge the 12v battery then the other battery that you mentioned, before you could start charging the main battery?

[@ericvet8b]

Brilliant!! Thanks Hannah!!!

[@19hcouk]

good vid Mythbusters of EV cars

[@_TheElMan]

Interesting numbers, so unless I'm wrong, to match the supercharger price for the Heathrow to Newcastle trip, if petrol is 165p the car would need to be about 69mpg, and to match from home charger price would be 100mpg?

[@tebitan3780]

Gave you a thumbs up, quite a useful video.

[@MrSnicol]

Best one yet!!!! Thx

[@rogerpoppen2651]

Very informative! Good info about 12v dying.

[@troywhitehead2183]

Great video & very useful content.

[@Littlemosslad]

A genuinely useful video! Nice one! Good old Hannah, what a star.

[@jamlov1847]

Dedication, great video!

[@sargfowler9603]

Are there after market portable chargers/battery packs you can keep in the boot for such occasions?

[@michaelsummers9579]

Very interesting & nice to see it for reference. Appreciated your efforts, time & lunacy 😂

[@nickbedingfield1699]

Been in a diesel when that run out of fuel, had to walk nearly an hour for a can of refill ,and had a petrol car with a bad alternator that conked out .So all cars can land at the side of the road waiting for rescue. Just nice to know how far you've got went to warning lights start flashing 5 miles or 5 yards 🤔