Tesla Powerwall 3: Install, Cost, & 4 Reasons

[@kwesty1]

We just got PTO today from our provider, PG&E. We live in Nor Cal, El Dorado Co. We had our final inspection two weeks ago. I was very surprised it only took 2 weeks. We opted for 1 power wall and a new 9.4 Kw system. However, I think I am going to add a second PW at the end of summer. Tesla initially told me 2 was the way to go but I did not want to have to finance anything.

[@lucidf8]

After being switched to NEM 3.0, I see why you would switch to battery backup. I’m still on NEM 2.0, so, I’m getting full price for the power I generate (not on PG&E). I don’t have many power outages, though that is a possibility in an emergency. My solar system is a few years older, started in 2011, and is using Enphase microinverters, so I’m glad to hear your system was compatible with Powerwall 3. I don’t have a lot of wall space for Powerwalls, and the distance between yours was eyepopping. I would have to install inside the garage, or one inside and one outside the garage wall. I thought I was all set with a 4Kw Solar system, but the City Utility is planning three double digit rate increases in the next 3 years. So, I think it’s time to upgrade, especially if the City changes over to NEM 3.0.

[@phillipherchenroder888]

I just had my Powerwall 3 installed today with brand new solar panels and IQ8M Enphase micro inverters. They call this AC coupled. Tesla released this a couple of months ago.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Awesome to hear! Enjoy your new PW3's!. Thanks for watching.

[@mjbates]

That's really cool! I haven't seen a review of a system like this yet. I don't know if you post KZbin videos, but I'd be interested to see how it works. So is DC converted to AC at the IO8M then converted back to DC to store on the battery? If it's going straight to your house does it bypass the inverter in the Powerwall? Depending on your use case, that could be more efficient in the long run! Anyways, super interesting setup you got there.

[@Mike-01234]

Wow 20k for just battery install I installed a EG4 18KPV and 2 EG4 14.5 KWH batteries for $10k. We AC coupled the inverter to the existing micro inverter system, and I added a critical load panel now if my power goes out I have several hours of battery power as well as my solar continues to charge even when the power is out. The EG4 system cost about $8500 I had a local electrician assist with wiring it up we got a permit pulled I did all the installation he did the wiring his charge was only $2200. I can add more batteries for $3600 each from EG4 minor permit pull would be all that is needed.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Neat

[@bladerunner1458]

Thank you for the information. my solar system is being installed. Ground mounted with the power wall batteries will keep you posted.

[@elainebradley8213]

We always enjoy your videos, we have incorporated many of your suggestions.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

So nice of you, thank you!

[@bigherm9496]

Thank you for the video. Very informative and timely for me. I also watched your PW3 installation video. I am considering a similar setup with 6 kW solar, Tesla gateway and one PW3. I do not have room for many more solar panels, but I am waffling between one or two PW3s. I am waiting for my final design before I can move forward. It is helpful to hear about your process and positive experience.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

I of course don’t know your situation, but I wish I had gotten 3 PW3’s now that I’m using it daily. I appreciate you watching and kind words!

[@matthewescobedo5985]

@@TeslaTipsTrips can I ask why do you wish you would have did 3? Need more usage at night or?

[@kwesty1]

I'd get the 2nd if you can afford it. We just got PTO on a 9.4 KW system with 1 PW3. It's great but I can see the value of a second, especially in summer.

[@bigherm9496]

@@kwesty1 I am seriously considering a second or the expansion unit that is expected to release soon.

[@neilmartinez143]

Thanks for the great video. What model microinverters do you have? My enphase solar has the M250 and the IQ8plus. Will they work with PW3?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Thank you. Mine are M250's with an Envoy Gateway. Tesla will tell you for sure, but seems like they can work around anything.

[@Hypertrev11]

@@TeslaTipsTrips Yea, I thought the PW3 was an inverter but with your microinverters you are supplying AC meaning your PW is AC coupled?

[@jimmyjames6318]

How often does the power go out in LA?

[@calivalley9056]

What type of A/C do you have, single stage, two stage or variable? The reason I ask is the start up amp requirement, initial draw, when your A/C kicks on, do you need to consider that when going with the PW3?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Tesla comes out and does a full survey of your property and takes care of every consideration. So far, not a single issue running the AC on grid, or off grid using the Powerwalls. Thanks for watching.

[@smartelectricalsolutions5897]

It has a 185A start up

[@ErolEskinazi]

Than you for making this video. Such a neat install. On 3:42 I just missed the backup gateway model you used. Does it say whether it is a Gateway 2 (Model 1232100-xx-y) (or Gateway 3 (Model 1841000-x1-y)?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

I believe it's Gateway 2, but Powerwall 3's

[@ErolEskinazi]

@@TeslaTipsTrips thank you and also for the video. Very good for us who are a few months / years behind you.

[@MelvinC]

Thanks for the informative video. I have a 8.91kw system and want to put 2 PW3 and everyone is telling me that i need to add panels. Is that correct? Do you produce enough power to fully charge both batteries? Do charge both batteries to 100% and also discharge them to 0 daily? Can these 2 batteries have enough juice to charge the Tesla?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Your system is larger than mine, and my 2 Powerwalls are charging fully from my panels daily. Keep in mind it changes throughout the year for solar production. Two Powerwalls are 27kwh, so no, it won't charge a Tesla vehicle with over 60kwh capacity. Also, you charge the Powerwalls from the grid as well, when rates are cheaper, like overnight. You can even have Powerwalls without any solar, so I'm not sure why someone told you to get more solar panels. Thanks for watching!

[@l33tr4n55]

I'm from AUS... Can't do 3 phase supply, a bit disappointed.

[@Jago94]

My PW3 and 8.4KWh system was just installed today. I believe inspection is next so it’s not activated yet. How did you get the app connected to your PW3? Bluetooth connection or did your installers run an Ethernet cable to your PW? I don’t think my guys did an Ethernet so I may have to bug them about it. Maybe Wi-Fi built in??

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Tesla set all that up during installation. Then it showed up in the app. They even walked me through everything. Thanks for watching!

[@JimTruong-xo1bg]

i am interesting to install the pw3 are they service in Boston area?

[@crazycoastie]

Whats your daily average solar collection? Love to see a short video of your collection, flipping through a week of data from the Tesla App. (but might make sense to wait til your system is fully approved by your electric company)

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Solar panels on their own produce 30-35 kWh (less in winter but still good) It’s a 10 year old system, I’ll probably add more panels next.

[@martindluzansky1359]

My dual Powerwall 3 system went live less than a week ago. Using Tesla solar too. Still waiting for final inspection to sell back to the grid but we’re already about 70% PW/solar, 30% grid. Like you I’ve been mesmerized by the app. Two questions: 1) sometime the app shows power being discharged to the grid. Since I’m not approved for the yet, what’s actually happening to that power? Is is turning my meter back? 2)At night the Tesla logo on my PW3s light up, but one was brighter than the other. Does that mean anything? Thanks!

[@comicrandomness3289]

For #1 you won't get that energy back. It's gone. Even if you're meter goes backwards Edison doesn't begin to keep count until after pto. To be fair that's Edison and I don't know if other electric companies are different.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

For #2 I haven’t noticed a difference in brightness. Neighbors light keeps turning on when I go there anyway. Thanks for watching.

[@HerbertHerbGlum]

As I look at the specs for the Powerwall 3 I assume it can't power the entire house, including the AC, at the same time. Does it have any sort of load managing system that prevents all of the loads from running at the same time if the power goes out?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

It certainly can handle the entire house, including AC. For our house running as normal, with AC, it uses about 10% an hour. Without AC about 1% per hour.

[@dennissteul5445]

Yeah, I haven't quite embraced solar panels and batteries. The cost for the panels and batteries seems steep. Maybe sometime in the future? Who knows. But thanks for the video, I found it very informative.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Thanks for watching!

[@isaaltunkaya3855]

which inverter ı have to install for theese powerwall 2 ?

[@JoePistritto]

how long was it from the time you ordered until installation occurred? (I'm just ordering 2 PW3s in Maryland but also ordering solar at the same time)

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

About 2 months. There are several visits before, permits, paperwork etc.

[@gordonlowe5405]

We are considering PW3 install with no solar. Looking to go with GAF Timberline solar when we next replace our roof. I am concerned that these improvements might increase our property taxes. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone?

[@VishalRaoOnYouTube]

0:36 I heard that Powerwall 3 had built-in inverters. Are they only compatible with Tesla Solar? What I'm trying to ask (in a roundabout way, apologies) is why you have inverters when Powerwall 3 has them already?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Because I had existing solar. They don’t disrupt that.

[@bladerunner1458]

You could use any solar collectors for the Tesla power wall three. There is a certain minimal DC input that you do have to provide. Also, you could connect multiple solar array to the power wall three. The DC from the solar collectors is converted to the proper DC voltage to charge the batteries. This is a more efficient set up.

[@jdmstop]

So you are no longer in NEM 2.0 and is now in NEM 3.0. This means you are no longer getting the higher paid out rate for excess energy sent back to the grid.

[@koreandude]

Great explanation. For #3, i cant believe they restrict you from the bat. I mean, you paid and installed all this out of your pocket, its silly that you can't charge your car from solar off the start. Unless I'm mistaken lol

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Thanks for watching!

[@Vvash]

Just about to pull the trigger on powerwall 3s, but my biggest thing is 2 or 3 of them 🤔

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

I wish I did 3 already, but everyone's situation is different. Thanks for watching!

[@kullanma]

@@TeslaTipsTrips I too wish I would have gone with 3 but only have 2. I have a 10.2 Kw array though here in Florida so I'm about 98% self sufficient. The one more battery would have made it to where I don't even have to think about lowering my consumption in off grid times. As it stands, on cloudy days I turn on the grid to charge whatever the sun didn't get a chance to. As you say though, just reworking when you run your clothes and dish washer, if you can, will make it work though in off grid.

[@christophertuten6772]

Can your contractor come to SC? My local installer just bidded me 32K for this same exact setup. 2 power walls, the gateway 2,

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

The contractor was Tesla directly. 32k is too high.

[@DanPiroscafo]

How much do the power wall 3 go for

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

It’s in the video

[@cjb8993]

Just got quotes from Tesla and their installer, Freedom Forever as I live in the south and they contract their installation. That said, I've got a 5K sq home in the rural south, and wanting to get as much "grid independence" as possible as I don't think the grid will keep up with demands in the next 3--5 years where I live and likely to see rolling blackouts, and perhaps longer periods of outages. That said, they think I can get by with 2 power walls, and panels to support them however, I'm wondering if it's not worth doing 3 power walls to maximize capacity and assure longer independence from the grid. I also have a 24KW Generac, whole home generator that runs on propane which is nice because I'll have 4 sources of energy in total, pretty cool!

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Yeah, I think I’ll be getting a 3rd at some point as well. It’s upgradable. Thanks for sharing!

[@comicrandomness3289]

I work for freedom forever. Site surveyor.

[@kullanma]

I don't think the Powerwalls will work with a generator. Depending on your usage however, in that size of a home I'd get 4 power walls.

[@cjb8993]

@@kullanma yes, I did more homework and found that to be true so going with an Enphase 20KW system, and 21 solar panels. It will fully integrate the generator which is fabulous

[@kullanma]

@@cjb8993 Yeah, that sounds like the best option since you have the generator. Glad I could help out. God bless!

[@keningram2781]

$6,900 for Installation !! doesn't that seem excessive ? What was the Installation cost of your Solar System in 2014 ?

[@Mike-01234]

Tesla customers are mostly wealthy.

[@user-hp1gn5mg7c]

Thought they were stackable? They are a lot thicker than I thought.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

I have a tight space. Needs to be 5 feet from the lot line.

[@fashionistalagerfeld1954]

What is the initial cost ?

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

I posted the full receipt in the video

[@Frank_W.]

I just saw the receipt posted and not bad at all. I’m curious about the Federal 30% credit being deducted from that amount? Thanks, enjoyed the video. Tesla fan and getting ready to purchase the Cybertruck.

[@ZayHawkins-z4l]

Why can't this be used n Nigeria

[@StratumPress]

I taped Duracell AAA batteries all over my house.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Awesome! So it, what, keeps a lamp running in an outage?

[@thomasjacques5286]

UPDATE: I erred, the current PW3 is not compatible with Enphase IQ Inverters. That model won’t be released on Q4 at the earliest.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Thanks for your service! I appreciate you sharing your experience here.

[@nicksgarage2]

I'm getting ready to have two PW3s installed with my existing two solar systems. One is Enphase IQ7 micros and the other has a SolarEdge inverter. They are going to remove all that and tie the panels to the built in inverters in the PWs. Also using the Tesla backup switch instead of the gateway. A novel installation for sure but will solve a few problems I've had with having two separate systems.

[@phillipherchenroder888]

I just had my Powerwall 3 installed today with brand new solar panels and IQ8M Enphase micro inverters. They call this AC coupled. Tesla released this a couple of months ago.

[@nicksgarage2]

@@phillipherchenroder888 I would assume they installed the Tesla gateway. If so, which version?

[@grantguy8933]

stop interrupting yourself. 😂❤

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Bad habit! ;)

[@GroovyVideo2]

mount Higher up on wall - water damage

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

They can be submerged. Tesla installed them, so they would know. Two drains nearby. We don’t get a lot of rain.

[@stevemuzak8526]

$21K is like almost 17 years of my electricity bills.

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

It’s a bit higher here. ROI is about 5 years.

[@edwardedison4616]

Nothing satisfies yall more than the films. I can’t even hear information because the hammy presence is so needy

[@TeslaTipsTrips]

Uhm. Huh?