3 very important things.1 the sub is higher impedance which means less power,2 the sub is smaller which means less surface area,and 3 the most important thing,the enclosure space is for a 12 in sub,not an 8 in. Considering those factors alone,im amazed it sounded any kind of decent.
@k1v56911 ай бұрын
the enclosure is small anyways, considering that sundown is a car sub it definetly needs a big enclosure so your third point doesnt count yet rest do
@paulcoleman397211 ай бұрын
@@k1v569 so haveing fact checked myself,3 rd is valid,the enclosure of that 12 is to large for an 8 in sundown,even ported,and actually most car sub require far less than most home subs.Been doin audio over 30 yrs,i know my shit
@supairo653910 ай бұрын
@@paulcoleman3972 Saying "Been doin audio over 30 yrs,i know my shit" Is like saying "Source: trsut me bro". Where is you fact check? Where is any information on what cubic feet that JBL Sub has in that box? The Sundown shown in this video seems to be a X8 V1 or X8 V2 im not 100% sure which one. That said I have a X8 V3 and the box I used and is required for this type of subwoofer is bigger than the JBL Box shown in the video. If you actually know what you are talking about you will know that the size of the box is not only dependent on the size of the subwoofer cone. So your 3rd Point is not valid just because you said it is. If you look at 4:55 you can easily see the true size the 12inch JBL sits in. The actual Subwoofer enclouse size for the JBL is not the full size of the JBL Partybox. You clearly did not fact check anything. You just didnt want to get your ego hurt. So just like @k1v569 said your 3rd point is indeed not valid, since I fact checked you ;)
@shipluzaman5712 Жыл бұрын
Bro this subwoofer need plenty of power to get the most output this amp doesnt provide that much so obviously you arent gonna get that much
@thedevilwithin4213 Жыл бұрын
It's built for sound quality more than anything
@albert5r Жыл бұрын
The JBL built for sound quality? 😂
@TheBoringCreatr11 ай бұрын
i mean the amp has about 1000 watts so yeahm But the sundown is a slight bit smaller. making it worse😅
@shipluzaman571211 ай бұрын
@@TheBoringCreatr that thing is advertised as 1000w when you get deep information you will find out all the 3 woofers have a total of 1000w so the sub could be like 500-600w nowhere close to 1200w rms
@roygriend514311 ай бұрын
@@shipluzaman5712and there is probably a build in highpass, so the lower spl of the second sub because of the heavier cone don't result in deeper bass. Maybe it sounds a bit cleaner but 10 times more expensive as the original woofer
@callumjones545111 ай бұрын
its not going to be as loud due to the cone area, also sundows require a more power. Maybe try a ds18 zxi 12 as they are very sensitive woofers and affordable.
@BEASTBOOST11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say they are that sensitive
@bassnjeep653710 ай бұрын
This enclosure makes up for the lack of power , thats why its maxing out as seen in the video ,
@RefuseeeUnlimitlessRecords11 ай бұрын
You should setup your dB Meter to dBC not dBA you got only the high and mid range not the Bass..
@theonedoing Жыл бұрын
Definitely do the ultimate next! I wonder what you could replace the ultimates subs with. Maybe dual 8 inch or 9 inch sundown's lol. Cant wait to see what you may do
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Cool idea!
@ryanzander8998 Жыл бұрын
the ultimate has no sub@@AudioTribe
@Bxyzfnf Жыл бұрын
@@ryanzander8998 i think he might be talking about the mid speakers on the jbl party box ultimate
@FedeBeam11 ай бұрын
The speakers in the front of the ultimate is the main driver for the lows @@Bxyzfnf
@FedeBeam11 ай бұрын
do sundown make 9 inch speakers?
@elijahbaptiste949111 ай бұрын
Sundowns is meant to be in a ported enclosure with lower starting impedance than 5ohms. Additional sounded like the box was flexing more than the SA8
@juliobello456110 ай бұрын
I mean the box is already ported and the amp is 4ohm so the sub been wired 5ohm is on the safe side.
@toasted_bagel59 Жыл бұрын
I can hear massive air leaks but besides that it sounds pretty good
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
You have a good ear. You're right with the leak and with the sound. Cheers
@livinglifeboosted1642 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is not the sundown subwoofer is the piss, poor tuning of the box it is in also the amplifier that is powering it I think the party box is good for what it is and it can be incredibly loud but that’s all it was ever meant to be
@juliobello456110 ай бұрын
Yup if I would plug that sun down to my NAD amp or crown amp that baby is waking up lol
@bubbawubba230711 ай бұрын
Is that a sealed box? Needs a proper box and a lot more power for the sundown. Also cone area is king
@bassnjeep653710 ай бұрын
These are ported boxes. This box makes up for the lack of power thats why it maxed out , as its way too big for the 8"
@kristofnagy157411 ай бұрын
Why does one measure below 100Hz with an A weighted meter?
@Shawnyboys Жыл бұрын
Toro Tech Force 12, 12" 1500 Watts RMS - 3000 Watts MAX What I plug in. Except that the speaker doesn't fit in the body of the jbl since it's bigger than the hole so I left my speaker in its box and I simply connected it with a wire from the JBL to the subwoofer of my Toro. The house vibrates everywhere!!
@GarrettGiuffre-w3p11 ай бұрын
I say blow it up. Yea to improve sound of bass you need to match the subwoofer with the factory JBL amplifier and find a similar to factory Sub with more efficiency and response to that factory amp ( ie less stress on the amp ) to bump it up
@livingstonekot757Ай бұрын
Yeah I still get the feeling its going to work twice as hard to move as much air as the original... There is simply no replacement for displacement...
@miknord549311 ай бұрын
Amp of party box 1000?
@Nojusk1711 ай бұрын
Would there be any recommendations for me to upgrade my subs on my partybox 310 🙌🏻
@AudioTribe11 ай бұрын
I do not recommend changing the original drivers. Cheers!
@sonyshakex70dlover90 Жыл бұрын
Lol nice tests can you put a 15 inc subwoofer from a sony shake x70d?
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
I already did a JBl Partybox 1000 vs 15"sub but if I find a sony x70d I will do. Cheers 🍻
@sonyshakex70dlover90 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioTribe yay tysm
@BoomboxSamarachannel Жыл бұрын
У JBL диаметр саба 10 или 21 дюймов?
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Hello. It has an 12" subwoofer. Cheers
@BoomboxSamarachannel Жыл бұрын
Понял, спасибо за ответ🤝@@AudioTribe
@John-r1w9l Жыл бұрын
Why weight the sundown with the wood on ?? Oviously its going to be heavier lol .. makes no sense
@bassnjeep653710 ай бұрын
Its heavier regardless , without the wood maybe knocks off the .6 😂
@556mxnu11 ай бұрын
try the ultimate next
@jbllfmer4146 Жыл бұрын
PartyBox 1000 is limited by the amp right? I tried changing the subs in my 110 for more powerful ones but it didn’t get any bassier. I just got an amp at that point no point messing up warranty
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately YES! Cheers
@jbllfmer4146 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioTribe shame really but for the size they are great speakers anyways. Would love to own a 710 one day tho my 110 will do and maybe I should get him a buddy soon 😆
@juliobello456110 ай бұрын
It would be interesting if he would used the sub of the Polk audio psw505 is rated 300 watts I think it has more xmax than the oem jbl sub
@jbllfmer414610 ай бұрын
@@juliobello4561doubt it would do much and for the price I’d rather get a PartyBox 710 or an actual amp and sub setup and then daisy chain it with an aux to the PartyBox. PartyBox are kind of what you see is the best and personally warranty is more important then an extra db or 2.
@Squiggly66711 ай бұрын
Less cone surface area, no information as to sensitivity of either sub, different size requirements for box area, higher base impedance for the sundown. Just a really pointless test with no information. If the sundownis is less sensitive than the 300W 12" (highly likely). Of course you didn't get a positive result. The amp that's in the party box was placed in there to power a 300W RMS sub, not a 1200W RMS sub. The only way to get more SPL would be to replace the stock sub with one of the same cone diameter and higher sensitivity so that it generates more output per watt. You'd also have to find one that has similar box size requirements.
@AudioTribe11 ай бұрын
Offcourse. But to test that was very interesting! Cheers
@vioricapricope777511 ай бұрын
What is name muzic plsss?
@vaughnrabbit11 ай бұрын
The sub doesn't move at 60hrtz thats around what the box is tuned at
@ooicexue10 ай бұрын
2 things 1. you measured it with dbA not dbC dbC is meant for low frequency measuring so it was not accurate 2.less cone area so off it can be louder and higher impedance, plus that sub is underpowered and has a sensitivity of 85.4db and the bbl sub has a sensitivity of 90db because it is rated lower so of course it will be less loud
@yogendrarajbhar8450 Жыл бұрын
How much sir JBL party box 4000watts sub buffer
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Hello - 1200 Watts has the Sundown Subwoofer! Cheers
@КЛЁВЕСТЬ Жыл бұрын
День доьрый. Скажите подалуйста. На каких частотах играют сч. Каждый на своей или вместе на одной частоте? Хочу сам сделать но есть вопросы. Спасибо
@auri320611 ай бұрын
Именно эти - стерео на одинаковых частотах. Диапазон от~500 до~15.000 ориентировочно
@Audio_bass-tester Жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much Luke,me and others have been waiting for this sundown moment :) Edit:tysm
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Cheers
@zeta9028 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see these videos
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Cheers
@oswaldozavala8182 Жыл бұрын
Can u show how u wired the subwoofer in bro?
@DiamondDog_ Жыл бұрын
There are only two cables, are you still confused?
@Opel_Corsa_Subwoofer Жыл бұрын
Same size sundown would do better but still awesome video
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Yes it would! Cheers!
@gabipebines1818 Жыл бұрын
roman, te am prins!
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Salut. DA!
@cctzesch Жыл бұрын
După cablul pe care l ai pus (de priză) la ditamai Sundown ul ăla, ești român frate...
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
Buna asta. Salut!
@sergeismd Жыл бұрын
Есть такой термин площадь решает
@kellerterika9042 Жыл бұрын
L appareil ne risque pas de s abimer
@king4watchgaming81311 ай бұрын
dupa accent te am luat ca esti roman
@AudioTribe11 ай бұрын
Salut!
@joytaran55189 ай бұрын
Impedence is not same,use 1 voice coil and will reach the 110dc bel
@leonsines24711 ай бұрын
You raised the ohms of the sundown sub... Less power less db.
@AudioTribe11 ай бұрын
Yes, because the amp can't handle it! Cheers
@Raulley27 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the sundown audio sub??
@AudioTribe Жыл бұрын
I bought it from the Internet. Cheers!
@Raulley27 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioTribe could you specify the shop? Or some links
@ChrisGBassYT11 ай бұрын
❤
@RaheelAhamed-ou1ub4 ай бұрын
Do it to the jbl ultimate
@Rgf19986 ай бұрын
How about puun a sub that's rated at the same power as the Amp. What you're doing makes no sense.
@maxirunpl4 ай бұрын
If something works, don't fix (ruin) it.
@AudioTribe4 ай бұрын
Just for fun! Cheers
@Indian_Speaker_Guy Жыл бұрын
Since it's an 8inch the best suitable would be on the 710, replace the bottom woffer with this one and if the sound improves then replace another one too and the result would be interesting 😍👍
@CoolD10 Жыл бұрын
the only problem with doing it on the 710 is the only drivers in it are those 2 8 inch full range woofers so if you replace those with sundown subs it will be nothing but bass, it would be best to do it on the partybox ultimate since its still got the 2 mid range drivers and the 2 tweeters
@Indian_Speaker_Guy Жыл бұрын
@@CoolD10 it's not fullrange drivers at all, the 710 also got two 2.75"tweeters. Yes the woofers are also made to produce som mid voice(lower mids) but very minimal sounds can be heard except for bass. It's like a subwoofer overall.. So change only one driver will affect much of the sound i guess..
@eljazzmusic193911 ай бұрын
I think the original sounds better and cleaner.
@AudioTribe11 ай бұрын
Yup. You are right - cheers
@AwinashGuptar11 ай бұрын
You didn't test from the same distance/location 🤦🏾♂
@MrJorrma11 ай бұрын
You mesuring resistance, its smaller than impedance. Use only one 4-ohm voicecoil 😅 there is no power in drivers 😂
@glennanderson605211 ай бұрын
It’s not tuned to the box why bother
@angadbirsingh2837 Жыл бұрын
try pioneer champion series tsw1212d4 i hope it will easily beat jbl subwoofer
@especialistqap11 ай бұрын
My car with one skar sdr 10” make 125db
@bogdanhlihor94582 ай бұрын
E mult mai bun cel Original
@djnoisechile Жыл бұрын
suena como el culo el subwoofer nuevo
@420shtmx11 ай бұрын
poor sundown lol
@clittle155910 ай бұрын
you made it 3xs worse a high excursion sub dosnt belong sealed aside from ohm load amp size cone area 😂
@nyikopeloakgosi468211 ай бұрын
I personally think that logitech is underrated. I replaced the speaker of logitech 5.1 x530 with jbl 810. It can handle the speaker very well. The logitech amp is powerful.
@cuttinchops Жыл бұрын
Just replace the amp, seal it off, good to go!
@andreyrudenko3353 Жыл бұрын
сандаль плохо прикручен
@BabyEliel202224 күн бұрын
😂20% power
@equanox10011 ай бұрын
Owdio
@johnmorris377611 ай бұрын
The original JBL driver looks like an upscaled PC speaker. What a peice of junk!
@pulaksharkar278110 ай бұрын
Not good.. 😂😂😂😂
@NightLight-fw8eb11 ай бұрын
Jbl - разрабатывает компоненты, корпус, фильтры и так далее специально, чтоб всё работало без проблем вместе. Какой-то индус: да похуй, ща засунем туда sundown, будет охуенно валить А результат ожидаемый Во-первых, не то оформление под этот динамик, так как просто ткнуть в корпус не достаточно. Во-вторых, усилителя тут явно не хватает, чтоб даже такой мелкий 8" динамик раскачать На выходе получается хуй пойми что в итоге. Но для видео сойдёт