Testify is Still a Jahil (Ignorant)

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Farhan Ahmed Zia

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@Selammmmm Ай бұрын

testify giving me "i am sigma wojak because i think i am and he is the crying wojak" vibes

@Momo-qp1uf 6 ай бұрын

He also deletes comments which debunk him😂

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

LOL

@docholiday708 6 ай бұрын

Really?

@Narrator_of_Tarikh07 5 ай бұрын

@@docholiday708Yep. He always does so with me...

@Islamicomaroh 5 ай бұрын

He's a clear coward then 😂😂😂

@C0ber725 5 ай бұрын

Ofc

@KenanTepe-j3d Ай бұрын

İ was a ex muslim but i think my faith is building back up,thanks for the Info man ill do more research

@toukirr776 26 күн бұрын

Please stop learning Islam from christian youtubers Go to a mosque or watch islamic youtubers if you want knowledge of Islam

@thewafflekid8666 10 күн бұрын

Honestly go to a mosque and ask someone that will actually make you believe

@вся_империя Күн бұрын

@@toukirr776true.. literally all of them misintepret the quran and they percieved it in ways of how satan views it..

@wail_52_ 6 ай бұрын

his argument proves one thing. that even satan is confused from his religion. they literally admit that they focus on someones death more that anything in this religion. and for those who is asking why it was made to appear so. the answer is although we don't comprehend God wisdom. the better question is why do u worship a man who got crucified in the first place. bcoz even if we assume that jesus wasn't historically crucified. nothing will change. jesus will be worshiped anyways except that his head and ressurction will not be a thing. yet being jesus historically crucified will still goes against Christians bcoz on the day of judgment they will have no excuse for worshiping a limited depended human being who got allegedly crucified. my allah guide them to the truth that makes sense more than there relation and that gives them a peace of mind that they never had in there religion

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Well said

@zaki8245 2 ай бұрын

said a whole lot of nothing

@wail_52_ 2 ай бұрын

@@zaki8245 that's why I should assume that you didn't even read what I said. What we just saw from testify is him having a problem with us Muslim denying someone dying on the cross and also denying that his "death" is a good news from humanity as somekind of vampire The true good news is Islam. A religion that deal with our intellect and common sense and reality.

@toucanleplusbo2086 26 күн бұрын

@@wail_52_ his death is a good thing for humanity because he literally died four our sins. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." Even if you don't accept the Bible as a valid source, there are so many historical evidences proving that Jesus died and rose from the dead. Eye witnesses and so more. It might be hard for you to believe me because you were born in an islamic country so you didn't really had a choice on your religion, but please inform yourself about islam and do it on non-muslim channel. I know it is haram to ask too many questions about religion in islam, but trust me, once you'll be free of your false religion everything in your life will feel lighter, as the immense burden of the lies you've been told since your birth will feel like they never existed

@Berberhater 6 ай бұрын

"Your Qur'an is false because my bible said so!"

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea lol literally his whole argument

@Berberhater 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia It will be fair to use his argument by saying "Your Bible is false, why? Because the Qur'an says so."

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

Kyle did the same thing 😂

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

So funny

@thebatman2405 6 ай бұрын

The Quran says the Bible is true though ( Quran 3:3; Quran 5:68) and that it cant be changed( Quran 6:115)

@XIII2013 Ай бұрын

Brother, thank you for revealing the truth! You deserve much more subscribers and views than that ignorant man, may Allah lead him to the right way.

@FarhanAhmedZia Ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair akhi

@coolerx3211 6 ай бұрын

They have no actual proof that Mark Matthew Luke and John were disciples.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

the Gospel of John is rejected my majority of Christian scholarship almost unanimously because it is distinct from the rest and clearly exaggerated accounts that aren’t historical - in it you find many of the “I am statements” , “I am the light of the world” , “I and the father are one” etc. Christian scholarship unanimously agrees and there is a consensus that none of the 4 gospel authors were disciples, nor did they ever meet Jesus

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaThe authors of the Bible were inspired by god! The “author” of Quran was inspired by the squeezing cave devil instead! How many witnesses do we have? None? 😮 No wonder that the Quran is corrupted as everything else in Islam… Hilarious!

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Wrong, very disingenious, there are a plethora of scholars whom agree with the traditional authorship of the New Testament: Craig Blomberg, F.F. Bruce, Richard Bauckham, Ben Witherington III, Darrell Bock, Michael J. Kruger. The truth is that it is an area of high debate, but the facts are that the early Church argued for the traditional view of authorship, luke and mark aren't even disciples if one were to forge a text you might want to add a more recognizable name, but instead we get accurate names attributed to each texts, Papias of Hierapolis (c. 60-130 AD), Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130-202 AD), Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-215 AD), Clement of Rome (c. 35-99 AD), Origen of Alexandria (c. 185-253 AD). Infact the unanimous scholarly consensus is that all four gospels are eyewitness accounts from the first century and are our earliest sources for the life of Jesus, along with the fact that they were held authoritative by the early church, why would early disciples value a forged fake text? Next time get your facts straight, I get you want to support your religion, but don't be dishonest about history.

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

Wrong, very disingenious, there are a plethora of scholars whom agree with the traditional authorship of the New Testament: Craig Blomberg, F.F. Bruce, Richard Bauckham, Ben Witherington III, Darrell Bock, Michael J. Kruger. The truth is that it is an area of high debate, but the facts are that the early Church argued for the traditional view of authorship, luke and mark aren't even disciples if one were to forge a text you might want to add a more recognizable name, but instead we get accurate names attributed to each texts, Papias of Hierapolis (c. 60-130 AD), Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130-202 AD), Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-215 AD), Clement of Rome (c. 35-99 AD), Origen of Alexandria (c. 185-253 AD). Infact the unanimous scholarly consensus is that all four gospels are eyewitness accounts from the first century and are our earliest sources for the life of Jesus, along with the fact that they were held authoritative by the early church, why would early disciples value a forged fake text? Next time get your facts straight, I get you want to support your religion, but don't be dishonest about history.

@QAHS610 6 ай бұрын

Christian Tactic "Use the argument, if it failed then use the same argument again and repeat''

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea I don’t know how he says “muh bible true” and made like a 6 min video repeating the same thing and ending with “therefore Islam false”

@eliteteamkiller319 6 ай бұрын

You believe a guy flew around on a horse. You're no better than them. Even if you're not one of the ones who believe that tradition is real, you still believe the moon was split in half. Ludicrous, all of it. Why would a perfect, all knowing god design the laws of the universe and then BREAK them? Miracles imply Allah lacks foresight. Which is why you can be sure he was created by humans, just like every other god.

@nouman2 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia akhi I had some questions where can I ask you

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

How did the argument of Testify fail? Do you even think for yourself?

@GhayelRubio 6 ай бұрын

@@baldwinthefourth4098none are truly fail or succeed.

@Kret-o 6 ай бұрын

Im not either muslim or Christian So I absolutely love this little skirmish between the two on YT Its nice seeing a Muslim fighting back after seeing so much “islam is vile and evil!!” videos

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Haha - that’s awesome Yea man watching his vids I can’t not make one back There are genuinely intellectual Christians but Testify is not one of them - he’s actually probably the dumbest Christian apologetic so I can’t not make videos refuting him Will make another one today lmaooo

@Kret-o 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia you really should grill Harris Sultan one time He is like the final boss of Islamaphobia, one of those “[insert country] will soon become an islamist state!!!”

@вся_империя Күн бұрын

@@Kret-our an atheist that like seeing religion wars?.. thats odd..

@Kret-o Күн бұрын

@@вся_империя im not atheist, im agnostic.

@вся_империя Күн бұрын

@@Kret-o same shi, u aint in any religion.. but i prolly see u converting to christianity since u got a russian flag as ur pfp

@T4ffynxnja 6 ай бұрын

Circular reasoning meets steroids, blended with a sense of obnoxious patronism - Testify

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

How was it circular?

@T4ffynxnja 6 ай бұрын

@@baldwinthefourth4098 His argument is summarised to: "The Qur'an is false because the Bible says so; therefore the Bible is true." If we reverse the argument, it's clear to see how idiotic this is: "The Bible is false because the Qur'an says so; therefore the Qur'an is true."

@palind9884 6 ай бұрын

@@T4ffynxnja but he gives reasoning supporting the accuracy of the Bible, even in the full video “ In Mark 14:58 and Matthew 26:61, witnesses claim to have heard Jesus say, “I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and in three days I will build another, not made with hands.” Later, in Mark 15:29-30 and Matthew 27:40, the mockers at the cross echo this accusation. Now, here’s the kicker: neither Matthew nor Mark bothers to explain where this accusation came from. It’s just there, hanging in the air, an unexplained allusion. And that’s precisely what makes it so intriguing. Think about it: accusing someone of threatening to destroy the Second Temple was a serious charge. Yet, Matthew and Mark don’t feel the need to elaborate. Why? Perhaps they simply didn’t know the full story. But they faithfully recorded what they heard, even if it didn’t make perfect sense to them. This suggests the accusation wasn’t just pulled out of thin air. It seems to be a distorted version of something Jesus actually said. Especially considering the reference to “in three days,” a phrase we often associate with Jesus’ predictions about his resurrection. Now, let’s turn to John 2:18-19. Here, Jesus tells the Jews, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” John clarifies that Jesus is talking about his own body, the true temple. But he doesn’t mention the later misrepresentation of Jesus’ words. See the pattern? Matthew and Mark give us the misrepresentation without the context, while John gives us the context without the misrepresentation. It’s like a puzzle where the pieces fit together perfectly, even though they come from different sources. This “undesigned coincidence” is a strong indicator of independence and truthfulness. Matthew and Mark, writing before John, couldn’t have known how their accounts would dovetail so perfectly with his. Yet, they do. This isn’t the work of clever fabricators. It’s the ring of authenticity.”

@palind9884 6 ай бұрын

@@T4ffynxnjaexcerpt from his response to this video on his website I think

@T4ffynxnja 6 ай бұрын

@@palind9884 First of all, in the video above, he doesn't give his reasoning for the authenticity of the Bible. And he assumes that the Qur'an's description of Hawariyyun encompasses the Biblical authors - when it definitely doesn't. Based on this alone, no matter how much you "prove" the bible's authenticity; whatever authority you place of the Bible above the Qur'an is a strawman of our position, and can be safely ignored. Also, you do realise how ridiculously contrived this example is, right? So apparently Matthew and Mark Independently both only hear Jesus speaks without context, and thus happen to misrepresent Jesus' words; but here comes John, who offers a different account of the same story, but only John, is smart enough to add the context, and properly hear Jesus? What a joke. Even if Matthew and Mark didn't know the context of the verse - they should have still recorded the same wording; thus not leading to misrepresentation. Also, Luke's very first passage always acts as a huge barrier to the authenticity of the Gospelic authors: "Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught." Not only does the author of Luke claim he isn't part of the apostles: "just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word." But he also suggests that all authors (of which there were many - most unknown) of the written New Testament weren't amongst the apostles. And then we can go onto the contradictory genealogies, numerical contradictions, textual inaccuracies, historical inaccuracies - all of which point to corruption when stacked against this singular isolated "Undesigned coincidence"

@jonathannkalpha7606 Ай бұрын

The reason why I will always believe in the crucifixion is because Jesus' birth,ministry,death, and ressecrection are all prophcied in the Old Testament Here are Old Testament verses that prophcied the crucifixion: 1. *Psalm 22:16-18* : "They have pierced my hands and feet... They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing." (Fulfilled in Matthew 27:35, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, John 19:23-24) 2. *Isaiah 53:5* : "But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by whose wounds we are healed." (Fulfilled in Matthew 27:26, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:33, John 19:1) 3. *Zechariah **12:10* : "They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son." (Fulfilled in John 19:37) 4. *Psalm 69:21* : "They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst." (Fulfilled in Matthew 27:34, Mark 15:23, Luke 23:36, John 19:28-30) 5. *Exodus 12:46* : "Not a bone of him shall be broken." (Fulfilled in John 19:31-36) 6. *Numbers **9:12* : "They shall leave none of it until the morning, nor break one of its bones." (Fulfilled in John 19:31-36) 7. *Psalm 34:20* : "He keeps all his bones; not one of them is broken." (Fulfilled in John 19:31-36)

@fathimahfarzana6891 17 күн бұрын

@jonathannkalpha what did he say " MUSLIMS DONT ACCEPT THE BIBLE AS SOURCE OF TRUTH "

@yousifabufarah 6 ай бұрын

my grandparents say this to me after instagram reels are infested with posts of christians saying jesus is god and copy and pasting the same verses

@AmiraliNiki 28 күн бұрын

If you could beat sam shamoun i will reconvert to Islam

@Seamed546 22 күн бұрын

Sure,Sam is ass in debating anyways

@amargamer2153 13 күн бұрын

Most of his arguments are baseless and doesn’t have any meaning. It’s fairly easy to debunk that fool.

@thisnamewillchangelater4991 6 ай бұрын

Man I love this channel like I gain so much knowledge from this

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Ah that’s amazing. I’m happy to hear that brother. May Allah increase you in knowledge which is beneficial

@thisnamewillchangelater4991 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia ameen

@kristencyril356 24 күн бұрын

Farhan is doing exactly what he accuses me of: begging the question for the Quran. He simply assumes the Quran is correct and that everyone else must be wrong. As if some guy in a cave 700 years after Jesus has some kind of special historical insight over the eyewitnesses. But let’s not forget the earliest and most reliable sources we have: the four Gospels and Paul’s letters. These texts consistently affirm Jesus’ crucifixion. Mark 8:31-33 records Jesus predicting his own suffering, death, and resurrection. Paul, who wasn’t a direct witness but met with Peter and John repeatedly states that Jesus was crucified (1 Corinthians 15:3-4). And John, an eyewitness, describes Jesus entrusting his mother to John’s care during the crucifixion (John 19:26-27). Furthermore, the resounding chorus of voices from the early Church Fathers - Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement of Rome, and countless others - all echo the undeniable truth of Jesus’ crucifixion. Many of these guys were disciples of the apostles. The evidence is overwhelming, and those who deny it are simply burying their heads in the sand. Farhan can try to spin it all he wants, but the truth remains: Jesus was crucified. And that inconvenient fact poses a serious problem for Islam.

@peaceforhumanity1886 15 күн бұрын

Exactly! God bless you!

@eddikaep 5 ай бұрын

Even the Old Christians doesn't agree that Jesus(PBUH) was crucified

@lucasgaming-r2h 5 ай бұрын

how?

@hakami3833 4 ай бұрын

oh really?😂😂

@eddikaep 4 ай бұрын

@@hakami3833 Yes

@DivineJustice-xl1jw 3 ай бұрын

Lmao where does it say that? Please don’t lie in the sake of protecting your religion Jesus was never in the Old Testament he was only prophesied in the Old Testament lol please get your facts straight

@eddikaep 3 ай бұрын

@@DivineJustice-xl1jw Watch Syfe Talk

@ndegraafndg 6 ай бұрын

How is this debunking him? You literally take a few comments, out of context for that matter and not the actual whole comment, and just repeat yourself that you dont accept the bible. You didn't debunk, or refute a single thing just spouted a bunch of words saying he is stupid basically. I mean that i guess no surprise this is the exact twctic you all use.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea well he says the Quran is wrong because the bible says so Muslims follow the Quran He says Muslims are wrong because the bible says so Muslims don’t follow the bible so his argument falls apart lol

@ndegraafndg 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia "yea well" I don't follow the Quran so your argument falls apart. See it works just as well both ways. Tell me why you don't accept the Bible. Do you not accept the documents from Tacitus, Josephus, the Talmud, and Lucian just to name a few, what makes those documents not acceptable.

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@ndegraafndgthese muslims have nothing but their contradicting book of lies they name Quran! So they need to fix the messed up stuff from Mohammed and these are the poor results. 1. John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

@rasyian 6 ай бұрын

@@ndegraafndg because why shall i

@ndegraafndg 6 ай бұрын

@@rasyian why shall you accept the most well documented person, and the death of that person? The one that no historical document of that time denies the crucifixion of? But you're going to believe a random guy 600 years later that permits lying, pedophilia, torture, ECT. that disagrees with everyone before him. That's like me suddenly denying the great famine and black death never happened in the 1400's and all reliable historical data on it is completely false. That's just 1 of many many faults in the Quran.

@Rogue_51 6 ай бұрын

Finally someone did this video thank you and May Allah Bless you

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother, May Allah bless you as well

@Mohammad-cn5cj 6 ай бұрын

La ilaha illa Allah

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Muhammadur Rasool Allah

@Takete-i2h 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaSallillahu Alaihy wa sallam

@inesatt1313 2 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia please report him!!!! He made a vid about Allah saying that he is the worst god!!!!!

@MRKAMONA 6 ай бұрын

Bro Thinks in the Original video that Ibn Abass is a prophet and everything he says is right 💀

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea we don’t have to take his views as fact they are just strong opinions - only Quran is fact and we have a range of tafasir where we can take them all together as good explanations from a holistic view. Also he says ibn Ab Ass not abbas 💀💀

@MRKAMONA 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia ok brother Nah that's a violation to Ibn Abbas name💀

@Localazadkashmiri 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaAs an abbasi, I have no idea how to respond to complete genocide that has been performed on the name

@MacacoMoninheiro 6 ай бұрын

I'm an atheist, and I have to say, he did disprove it quite verily. Just a little bit of research will go a long way

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

I disproved him - or he disproved me?

@v_dyz 6 ай бұрын

He said "did Farhan (your name) refute me ps:no ", he's still arrogant@@FarhanAhmedZia

@Xeno7001 6 ай бұрын

I find this hole debatę about decieving bla bla did jesus be crucified or not as just confusing And there are some other interesting nitpickings that could be talked about If quran (muhammed) says the miracles are ONLY made by god and He cant perform any (other than writing quran) As well as aknowledging jesus his existence as a prophet While jesus performer miracles Wouldnt it mean 1) jesus is the god (just like he said. What a prophet does) 2) Gos favors jesus more than muhammed yaata yaata jesus and his teachings are more important than those of muhammed

@v_dyz 6 ай бұрын

@@Xeno7001 Muhammad ﷺ performs miracle by the permission of Allah. So, it clearly shows that Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is indeed a *PROPHET*. Meanwhile, Jesus ALSO performs miracles by the permission of God. Jesus's miracles are mentioned in the Quran, and mentioned it's from God. Even modern theologies, agreed that Jesus did not perform it by himself, but from the holy spirit (Sources from Christians). So, Jesus did not performed it by himself and with the help of "holy spirit". About favoring bla bla, Allah ﷻ loves all of his prophets, but he favor Prophet Muhammad ﷺ more. Jesus is mentioned more because Jesus is part of the ulul azmi prophets.

@Xeno7001 6 ай бұрын

@@v_dyz christian sources are that jesus god and goły spirit are one being so by them jesus performer his own miracles.*

@Ondonol_ 6 ай бұрын

You come number 1 on my list of muslim chanels that make the best refutation videos prewiusly the number one was Brother SYFE but he now takes the second place great video hope you do more like this in the future👍

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

LETSGOOOO REFUTATION STYLE VIDEO APPROVAL BY ONDONOL ✅✅✅

@itzbamy 6 ай бұрын

Video summarised: we don't use your book so its false

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea lmaooooooo

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

"And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous." (5:46) Each Book confirms what came before it, of course the Quran however does not confirm what comes before it, why? Because it contradicts it. So the only scapegoat for Muslims is to claim, that we have a false Torah and False injil, however even this is false "And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient." (5:47) This verse confirms the people of the Gospel HAD the gospel during the time of Muhammad. To sum it up, the two verses say, Jesus received a book with confirmed the Torah and the Christians had a gospel which was revealed by Allah, (even if it was a corrupted one it still was the gospel they had), However, the only written sources of the life of Jesus in the first century are the gospels found in the New Testament, so this "book" given to Jesus has no archeological or historical records. Furthermore the Quran confirms that the injil is the one the people of the Gospel (Christians) have. So you're forced to say we have the injil, which has no signs of doctrinal corruption, there are small scribal mistakes, but no corruption on major and basic teachings like ressurection, incarnation, and trinity. (sources. NT Wright, Martin Hengel, Richard Baukham, FF Bruce, Daniel B. Wallace, and Bruce M. Metzger) Furthermore to add more injury Surah As-Saff (61:13-14): "And [you will obtain] another [favor] that you love - victory from Allah and an imminent conquest; and give good tidings to the believers. O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah, as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, 'Who are my supporters for Allah?' The disciples said, 'We are supporters of Allah.' And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant." This confirms that the early followers of Jesus became dominant and became the mainstream form of Christianity, but what is the historical mainstream Christianity, oh that's right Jesus death and ressurection and divinity. Don't just take it from the first century sources in the Bible but, early church fathers:Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130-202 AD), Ignatius of Antioch (c. 35-108 AD), Justin Martyr (c. 100-165 AD), Origen of Alexandria (c. 185-253 AD), all affirming Christian doctrines such as Divinity of Christ and Trinity. If you're Quran is true, it simply refutes itself by contradicting history. In conclusion, the New Testament is the only Injil in the first century, it's the one referred to by Allah, and your argument of corruption has no historical or reliable evidence outside the Quran itself, lastly you take the words of a man whom lived hundreds years later to tell you about Jesus instead of relying on the eye-witnesses of the ressurection which also contradicts your Quran.

@JirenThegreylien 6 ай бұрын

Bro what? Allah did not reveal a corrupted book, its people who changed it with their own hands, what are you on about?

@JirenThegreylien 6 ай бұрын

@@BuffAlevaticanus hebrews 1:3, commentary litteraly stated by an angry scribe to leave the “old readings alone”

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@JirenThegreylien Thankfully we have hundreds of other manuscripts right? Each for the most part consistent with the rest, they only exhibit differences in wording, spelling, and word order. This note left by a scribe only adds to the idea that textual preservance was a large priority for Christian scribes. And incase you missed it, I literally cited biblical scholars whom argue for the preservation of the New Testament, so by all means argue with them not me

@tlovi7342 6 ай бұрын

Christian here. If it was "made to appear so", but did not actually occur, is this not the definition of deception?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

You assume Allah did the deceiving “It was made to appear so” is Allah recounting the events that happened - it would be by any means possible - from the hands of people themselves - some Islamic interpretations say Jews deceived the disciples/Christians We can’t know for sure we just know Allah says historically and to witnesses it appeared he was crucified but in reality he doesn’t and that truth is with God But yea clear distinction - God didn’t make it appear to people That would be like me saying to a Christian why did God deceive 2 billion Muslims to follow the Quran It doesn’t really make any sense

@tlovi7342 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaI did not mention Allah, but I understand your defensiveness given the subject matter. Thank you for the clarification. However, I am now compelled to ask, what reason would Allah allow this? As you stated just above, if all it has done (the appearance of crucifixion) has made 3b Christians go astray, does this not make as little sense as the deception outright being His?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Well people have their own free choice and will, again I would ask a Christian - why would God allow 1/4 of the planet to be deceived after Jesus came by an Arabian false prophet and become Muslim according to them But also - knowing Jesus is crucified doesn’t affect you being a Muslim - followers of Jesus could’ve witnessed his crucifixion and still been Muslims - worshipped God alone It is well known in both the Quran and the Bible many previous prophets were killed by people and this wouldn’t change the concept of God from an Islamic view Whoever followed Christianity then followed a triune God and what Muslims would consider as something invented and taught and associating partners with God from their own choice Essentially believing Jesus was crucified doesn’t make you necessarily a Christian and you could’ve still been Muslim with that knowledge before Muhammad ﷺ was sent by God

@tlovi7342 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia I appreciate this dialogue with you. So, if I understand your position, the primary contention you have is with the concept of the Trinity? Is this correct? And you and I are of a mind in the question as to misleading a significant portion of the populace; neither of us believe it to be the will of a beneficient God, and therefore there must be another force at play here, be it shaitan, man's fallen nature, etc., is this also correct of me to say?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yes definitely, it’s very likely it was just the Jews that deceived the Christians, another could’ve taken Jesus place. People could’ve killed who they thought looked like Jesus. Or any other out of a million possibilities because of man’s fallen nature. But yea it’s not important in the Islamic paradigm, it’s way more important in the Christian paradigm that’s way they will make a huge deal out of Muslims not caring as much - but for us what’s important here is God tells us everyone thought he was crucified but he wasn’t and he wouldn’t disgrace his prophet and he is in heaven and will be sent again in his second coming

@d0ga012 6 ай бұрын

You literally let parts of his video out so your argumentation would make sense. In 1:10 Testify literally shows that, acording to the muslims, the apostles knew Jesus wasn't the one on the cross, if that's the case, then there is no reason for them to write otherwise in the bible. That is literally the main argument in the video and you made sure to avoid it. you are just proving that without lies islam dies

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

No - I take some parts out because this isn’t a line by like refutation and it doesn’t need to be Go watch deenresponds if you want line by line refutations ibn Abbas’ opinions aren’t obliged upon us - he’s a fallible human with his own opinion and view What is obliged upon us is the Quran - everything else is just interpretations we don’t have to accept If that’s his main argument even that doesn’t hold weight

@bri-chimchimcher-ee6955 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia dude, it's a 6 minute video, not 40 minutes. So yeah, leaving things out when refuting such a short video does look suspicious

@d0ga012 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Testify builds up his argument throughout the video, leaving parts of it out of your response is basically taking his arguments away from context. Also he didn't use Ibn Abba's interpretation, rather he mentioned information he gathared by living with Muhammad. Your whole response was "everyone who saw the crucifixion was tricked", which is debunked in Testify's video, there was no point being made in yours.

@eigengrau77 6 ай бұрын

@@d0ga012 that's not a statement from the prophet. it comes from ibn 'abbas (who, while authoritative in exegesis, wasn't infallible) and it's an israelite narrative (which isn't accepted without scrutiny). i'm not even sure if the attribution is authentic. you can't use that as an impeccable basis for argumentation. i most certainly don't recall testify saying that ibn 'abbas got this from the prophet.

@wail_52_ 6 ай бұрын

not ture. the quran not only says that it was made to apear so. but it also says in the same verse that people differed about him. that why there groups that rejects crucifixion for example. or when canonical and non canonical books contradict each other when it comes to crucifixion

@diney7085 6 ай бұрын

How is "making to appear so" different from deceiving? So the Islamic position is that Allah created a fake religion by creating a fake holy moment and did nothing to stop the disciples from writing about said event, and somehow that doesn't constituted deception? What?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Allah didn’t make it appear so - this is a misunderstanding you are making Also this doesn’t create an entire religion For arguments sake - if through any means whether the hands of people or however - it was perceived Jesus was crucified - this doesn’t change Islam, nor the concept of God or Tawhid - since it’s known both in the Quran and the Bible that prophets were killed in the past as well in many ways The followers of Jesus (According to Islam) would still worship God. If other people decided to follow a triune God or believe the crucifixion therefore means God is part of a Godhead with three - that is still on them and their free will to choose

@diney7085 6 ай бұрын

I don't see how a reasonable person would read "they somehow saw something else lol" as a reasonable counter to the evidence that Jesus' crucifixion was a real event that actually happened and moved multitudes to dedicating their life for the gospel. God just kinda allowed the disciples to spread heresy and to suffer for a false religion? Compare the lives of the disciples to the life of Muhammad to see what I'm talking about. The Crucifixion and resurrection of Christ is fundamental to Christianity, and was the proof needed for the disciples, as this was the event that removed all doubt for them.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea you are making assumptions here - we don’t assume the disciples you follow or Christian’s claim are there disciples are there disciples and we also don’t have Isnad in the bible so we also believe that we can’t know for certain what is written in the bible goes all the way back to Jesus word for word without a shadow of a doubt

@diney7085 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia I see what you’re saying, thanks for talking respectfully

@joeroeinski1107 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaSo how do we know your quran has the correct perspective? We don't care what you believe but what you can prove. Prove to us your quran holds a more reliable account than the first century eyewitness accounts of the gospel regarding who Jesus is. To my knowledge the quran fails to even understand the trinity, perceiving it as three gods consisting of Allah, Jesus, and Mary. If it can't even get the trinity correct then how can we even consider anything about Jesus to be true in the quran? Why would a random guy in the desert centuries later who never met Jesus somehow be more valid than first century documents of those who lived and ate with Jesus as his disciples? No viewpoint is inherently invalid until it is disproven.

@AbroTurab 5 ай бұрын

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@FarhanAhmedZia 5 ай бұрын

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@Pale_Kingg 2 ай бұрын

Man they stare at our Quran more that whatever book they have

@ChowdhuryRahman-v1p 3 ай бұрын

Bro bro ( everyone in the comments including you, farhan ) i would like to say we should not go against any religion but testify is doing too much and giving misinformation to christians about islam also critisising it! So guys do not critisise any religion and i hope everyone here loves jesus/Isa (PBUH) whatever we say jesus is actually the most important person in islam after muhammad. I am glad enough that the world did not start a war with this. ALHAMDULLILAH, thank you allah❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@MasonWittenberg 6 ай бұрын

Why would Allah make is so that it looks like he crucified? That just doesn’t make sense that Allah would do that, there’s literally no purpose other than to deceive the disciples into following a false religion

@ThorByte 6 ай бұрын

@@SUPERSAMAOBAMALADEN So then why should i believe him?

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

You shouldn’t believe in him! In the Bible satan deceives. In Quran Allah deceives. In the Bible we believe in god and his holy son Jesus. In Quran it is the biggest sin to believe in Jesus as god’s holy son. Clear enough?

@Turan6665 6 ай бұрын

@@SUPERSAMAOBAMALADEN It's not deceivers. It's planners. Usually people who talk bad about Islam say it's deceiver but it's not. Allah/ The Father/God or whatever you wanna call him doesn't have bad qualities

@yeyess3891 6 ай бұрын

@@SUPERSAMAOBAMALADEN "let me open a random translation that fits my opinion without reading any line of tafsir" moment. Imagine we would just make our own translations of the bible where it would say "Jesus was not killed!!!"

@eigengrau77 6 ай бұрын

@@SUPERSAMAOBAMALADEN wdym "good context"? mākir means "cunning" or "deviser of stratagems" (orientalist translations translate it as such, btw. translations by NON-MUSLIMS. it cannot be any more on the nose) and God deludes disbelievers. that's literally what the verse says. i genuinely don't know why you see this as a problem.

@originalkwao3365 6 ай бұрын

What does it mean that it was appeared to them? Like what really happened there? What happened to Jesus? How did the disciples and the entire people who lived with him, saw him, touched him, communicated him, followed him, interacted with him, etc didn't see that it was not Jesus? When exactly was it made to appear to them? Was it when he was on the cross, before or when exactly? What is the source that deceive (made it appear to) them like Jesus? What was the point of this deception? What actually is happening there? What's the point?😢

@FarhanAhmedZia 5 ай бұрын

It could be many different ways Early Islamic scholars say Jews told the Christians and convinced them they killed him Some say he was substituted by others This is all uncertain speculation - it could be a million things Allah is only stating what happened - it appeared to them he was crucified but he wasn’t The point is it appeared to them it was him The source that made it appear so is an uncertain unknown This is not important as Muslims as it doesn’t change Tawhid and is just a recount of an event but the Christians entire religion fringes on it so it is a bigger deal for you There doesn’t have to be a point - Allah is just recounting what happened

@Unknown_nobody-p7b 5 ай бұрын

I heard that god made another person ( the one who was trying to crucify christ ) look like christ but christ got raised to the heavens

@tengkusaidmohdkhairullah2015 5 ай бұрын

@@Unknown_nobody-p7b yes

@BobMarley-li6cu 28 күн бұрын

I like how it takes 2 minutes to debunk him 🤣🤣

@bellofrus 6 ай бұрын

Wait, so if God did not make it appear so, merely "it was made to appear so", who did it? Did Jesus do it himself? Was it Gabriel on God's orders? Satan? Some random sorcerer? We're really missing a who and how here

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

The who or how is not important lol, the point is it just wasn’t Jesus. The wording implies it wasn’t appeared so by God or Jesus either It was probably Jews or humans with their own hands that did something There’s a million possibilities anyone could’ve done anything but the wording suggests that’s not important - what’s important is everyone thought he was killed when he wasn’t

@bellofrus 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaI don't think I could disagree more, this is an incredible belief. The context surrounding this should be seriously elaborated on given the extraordinary claim of the statement. To make such a statement and not go into detail as to why suggests that there is no actual answer, that we're just supposed to take the Quran at it's word, which relys on the presupposition that the Quran is reliable at all. As for the answer you give, the previous verses in Surah 4 contradict this, as the verses are speaking of the violations of the Jews, and imply that the Jews themselves didn't know. I'm disappointed you don't know your own book enough to remember this. Moreover, Jesus was executed publicly (as basically all crucifixions were) in front of the same people who were present when he extravagantly entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday, as well as in front of (according to all of the Gospels) at least 3 followers of Jesus and the Jewish leaders who were determined to kill him. Did they find a decoy so perfect that not even they noticed or are the disciples able to perform the magic needed to do this? Very little of this makes sense, I was hoping for an actual answer, but I'm severely disappointed.

@Hudhayfah-At-Taymi 5 ай бұрын

@@bellofruswhere was Jesus crucified? In the vineyard or outside it? That's the bibles contradiction. Moreover, it might be Simon as the biblesays

@anonamemous6865 5 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia It is important because it clarifies that the islamic religion is false

@dresdi 5 ай бұрын

@@bellofruslol this is a ridiculous pedantic point. How could you seriously believe the Quran is implying someone else did it?

@augustolobo2280 6 ай бұрын

Your argument was that "muslims don't take the Bible as a source of truth". Brother, Testify is proving to you that you actually should take the Bible as a source of truth. His whole point is this, he is not just saying "you should believe in the Bible" but he is also presenting an argument. In this very video I am commenting right now, you "refute" that argumentation just by saying "I don't believe in the Bible, so everything you say that is in the Bible is false". Why don't you believe in the Bible? Because the Quran said so. Your faith is blind. Why does Testify believe in the Bible? He presented numerous arguments to do so, and why the Quran is actually false. His faith is not blind, he knows why he believes in such things. His videos are these arguments and proofs. "I don't believe in the Bible". Oh yes you should! And there is why. You were presented with the argument, couldn't answer and went back to blind faith "Quran said Bible is false"

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

The Bible has no Isnad The Quran does - there are also many independent reasons why I believe the Quran and Sunnah to be true and should be followed If there is no Isnad with the bible I can’t follow it and think it’s true and certain without any doubt There would always be reason to doubt

@joshuaamado559 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaBible and teachings of Jesus do have what you would call an “isnad” my friend. Jesus -> his apostles -> polycarp & ignatius -> Justin martyr & Irenaeus Claiming and attributing the 4 gospels to their subsequent authors and passing the teachings within. These teachings look nothing like what the Quran and Hadiths teach.

@Vellex123 6 ай бұрын

No it is logical because when you're trying to contradict a book than you should use that book only, so him using the bible to refute the quran is the same thing if I said that the Quran said something else and refute it like that.

@joeroeinski1107 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Your argument regarding "isnad" doesn't work for the bible the way it works for the quran. The bible is a collection of books which consistently cross-reference eachother through quotations and prophecies and so it in a way supports itself as one cohesive message. Not to mention the various letters, works, prayers, and other texts by early church fathers such as Ignatius, Polycarp, Clemont, etc. which comment and quote the bible for their needs. Because of this the bible very much stands on its own without the need of isnad. The fact that Islam is virtually incomplete without hadiths shows that the quran is insufficient and cannot make proper context on its own. Ali Dashti in his book "23 years" considers the quran to be practically unintelligible without the aid of scholarly interpretation and hadiths. Not to mention the earliest hadith collections seemingly found 200 years after the time they relate themselves to, AFAIK.

@agellidmalik 6 ай бұрын

@@joshuaamado559 Yeah, Justin Martyr who said that in Christianity you worship 3 gods. Great job digging yourself in a hole, even though that "isnad" has no proof of its authenticity.

@BattlewaveDoesStuff 6 ай бұрын

After seeing all the comments on the testify video, I was disgusted by the amount of disrespect towards Islam. Thank you for debunking his videos, and keep on going brother! ❤

@eigengrau77 6 ай бұрын

same honestly. he didn't even make a good point, he's just rallying his audience up.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair thank you for the kind words - by the will of Allah I will keep going 🤩🤩

@BattlewaveDoesStuff 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia inshallah!

@BattlewaveDoesStuff 6 ай бұрын

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@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful 6 ай бұрын

Ironically, Christians are the least Christian people ever

@joshuaamado559 6 ай бұрын

Muslims say “the injeel isn’t the gospel” then: -provide no evidence of any injeel ever existing -ignore the testimony of Jesus own apostles who lived with him and died for their testimony -claim the torah is corrupt when the oldest manuscripts (Dead Sea scrolls) show the opposite -believe what the Quran says about Jesus which was “revealed” 600 years after Jesus lived and refutes everything his apostles said about his resurrection -ignore the Quran telling Jews and Christians to verify Muhammad with the scriptures they possessed during his life (622-632 AD of which we have the identical scriptures they possessed then) You’re literally doing the same thing you accuse him of doing except you’re saying the Quran is true and the Bible is false.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

We don’t need evidence for its existence, our evidence is the Quran itself telling us which is divine revelation for us The Quran doesn’t say to verify the scriptures they have in their life - I explained and refuted this in the video Yea that’s the point - this isn’t a video that’s supposed to prove why the Quran is true - I will make a separate video on that It’s just a video explaining the Quran doesn’t say to follow the 4 Gospels - that’s some crap Christian apologetics just made up nowadays lol

@lauramann8275 6 ай бұрын

The Quran is evidence of the existence of what? The Injeel? How was what Muhammad told verified? I find it interesting that the Quran gets stories and details from the Bible almost right, but slightly incorrect, details that can be found in manuscripts from hundreds of years older than the Quran, that are the same as we have today. But the Quran is wrong about the details.

@Mr-E 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia You in fact, did not, "refute" him.

@Celtic_Spartan 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia wait but the quran is a book though, why would you believe that instead of all the truths of you're fellow man and the living world?

@eigengrau77 6 ай бұрын

weak response, here's why: - absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. plus, the injil could be revelation that jesus preached orally for all we know. doesn't have to be concrete. all we know is that some parts of it crept their way into the gospels. - dying for a belief doesn't verify its authenticity. followers of islam went to war and were martyred for their beliefs at even larger scales of magnitude. plus, unless you can actually verify that those testimonies are from the apostles, then your claim can be dismissed. - there seems to be a misconception among christians. we don't believe that there was an original bible with the exact same amount of books, 1:1, that got distorted. we believe that the message was confused with human interpolation and books written by man. plus, the scrolls include biblical texts that differ in content/wording from the traditional hebrew bible. that PROVES the charge of textual corruption, lmao. - this is just stupid. the gap between jesus and moses was over a millennia. if God sends a prophet, then whatever that prophet says is naturally revelation. God could tell us about a person that lived in 5126 BC, doesn't matter. if He says something, then that's from God. of course, we have to prove the qur'an from God, but that's an entirely different topic. - no controversy in this. plus, the jews of arabia cited parts of the torah with content that you can't even find in modern bibles. that proves corruption. we still believe that the current scriptures hint at the coming of the anointed one who was fulfilled in muhammad. many contemporary jews recognized him, and either converted or rejected him out of enmity. a prominent and knowledgeable rabbi, abdullah ibn salam, recognized him and converted to islam. 26:197 --- "Is it not proof enough for them that the learned men of the Children of Israel have recognized it?"

@Μαθητής 6 ай бұрын

Bro, all you said was you don't believe all that the Bible says is true, but that doesn't refute the argument. Just because you don't believe the Bible is true doesn't mean it can't be used as evidence. You don't believe in the Bible because the Qu'ran says it isn't reliable, so if the Bible can't be used as evidence, neither can the Qu'ran be used as evidence because Christians don't find it reliable.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea that’s the point He is saying the Quran is wrong because the bible says so The Quran can’t be wrong for Muslims because they see it as authoritative truth and divine revelation which can be independently proven. So if the bible says something that contradicts the Quran, they don’t care and the divine revelation supersedes anything else.

@DrakonPhD 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia...did you seriously like/favorite your own comment?

@An_ordinary_person62y53 6 ай бұрын

@@DrakonPhDwhat’s wrong with it lmao

@0xgodson119 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia The Quran is wrong because it says it came confirming that came before it and that which came before it leaves no room for quran.

@imragaa 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia If you open up the Qur’an to Sura 5 titled “The Gospel of Jesus: Guidance and Light,” you will read the following:* [5:46] And in their footsteps We sent Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and conformation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah. [5:47] Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel. [Emphasis mine.] First, take note that the Qur’an actually says that Allah is responsible for sending Jesus and the “the Gospel,” referring to what we call the New Testament. Each was given to confirm “the Law,” referring to the Old Testament. In describing “the Gospel” we are told that it contains “guidance and light.” From just this verse, I think we are meant to conclude that God has multiple revelations and that these revelations can be used to confirm each other. For example, the New Testament confirms the Old Testament. Second, in the very next sentence the Qur’an affirms that “The People of the Gospel,” referring specifically to Christians, should “judge by what Allah has revealed therein.” That is to say, Christians should judge by what’s in “the Gospel.” Here the author, Mohammed, is inviting Christians to judge his words by the New Testament. He believes that “the Gospel” and his words, the Qur’an, are in agreement. This makes perfect sense in light of the verse we just looked at. In essence, Mohammed is saying that just as the Gospel confirms the Law, which came before it, the Gospel will confirm the Qur’an, which is coming after it. See the problem? The qur’an contradicts the Gospel which confirms the Torah therefore the Qur’an can logically be assumed to be false by its very own words.

@FebruaryHas30Days 6 ай бұрын

Prove that all the following statements are true: - Muhammad never abused anyone and had a wife his age - Women have equal rights in Islam - It is a sin in Islam to hurt someone when they did nothing wrong And if you're asking, yes, I do respect Islam and I'm not Islamophobic.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

We have Hadith the prophet never struck anyone - watch my “Is Wife Beating Allowed in Islam?” Video Why would women have equal rights to men if they are unequal beings? Women have different rights, wives have certain rights, husbands have certain obligations - neighbours, children to their parents and parents to their children etc all have a different set of rights and obligations over each other none are equal - the only thin equal is the human in the sight of God

@dvsevbve7198 6 ай бұрын

Found this online, but most of the Prophet's wives were widows, his first and most beloved wife was 15 years older than him. There was an Oxford study led by Dr. Little which tracked the hadith of Aisha(R.A.)'s age, and it found and date the age to have been altered 100 years after her death as a political move by the sunni's against the shias. This makes the age of 9 highly doubtful. In 1999, in a magazine called The Minaret, out of California, a scholarly paper appeared. Its title was, "Was Ayesha a six-year old bride?" The author was Dr. T.O.Shanavas, a physician in the US. The same paper was published again in the July/August 2002 issue of The Minaret. Unfortunately the magazine is no longer being published. But fortunately I have, in my hand, a photocopy of that article. It is a bit dog-eared, but perfectly readable. The article is, without a doubt, the best researched paper on this issue by any Muslim scholar or author that I have come across. The paper is too lengthy (4 pages of fine print) for me to reproduce it here. While all of what I have written below is based on Dr. Shanavas's article, I have had to rearrange and modify his text to fit everything in this answer. Some Pertinent dates: pre-610 CE: Pre-Islamic age 610 CE: First Revelation 610 CE: AbuBakr accepts Islam 613 CE: The Prophet begins preaching publically 615 CE: Emigration of some Muslims to Abyssenia 616 CE: Umar bin al Khattab accepts Islam 620 CE: Generally accepted engagement of Ayesha to the Prophet 622 CE Hijra (emigration to Medina) 623/624 Ayesha begins living with the Prophet Most of the narratives concerning this issue printed in the books of Hadith are reported by one Hisham ibn Urwah. (A single source for ALL - Ideally, the Muslims look for two, three or four sources for reliable narrations) It is strange that no one from Medina has reported on this issue where Hisham lived the first 71 years of his life, and where his pupils included well-respected people like Malik ibn Anas. After age 71 Hisham moved to Iraq. Tehzibu'l-Tehzib, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh)reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah, his (Hisham's) narratives are acceptable except when he narrated after moving to Iraq." It is reported that Malik ibn Anas, Hisham's own pupil in Medina, also objected to Hisham's narrative from Iraq. My note: Almost every report of Ayesha's young age goes back to Hisham bin Urwa from the time when he was old and possibly senile. Secondly, even his old pupils, like Malik ibn Anas rejected his narration of that period. Likewise in the 15th century many scholars rejected the narrations of Hisham from his old age. Al-Tabari says, "All four of Abu Bakr's children were born of his two wives during the Pre-Islamic period" (Tarikh'l umam wa'l-mamlu'k, Al Tabari (died 922), Vol 4, p.50, Arabic Dara'l-fikr, Beirut, 1979) Tabari also states that Ayesha was born in the period of Jahiliya (Pre-Islamic period) (In other words in 610 CE or earlier) Even if she was born in 610, she would be 14 years old when she began living with the Prophet. Amazingly, Tabari in a different place then goes and quotes Hisham ibn Urwah that Ayesha was nine when she started living with the Prophet!!! (Not a very scholarly work, is it?) There are multiple accounts of Ayesha participating in the battles of Badr and Uhad. At the same time, Bukhari (in Kitabul Maghazi, Bab Ghazwa-i-Khandaq) narrates, "Ibn-i-Umar states that the Prophet did not allow me to participate in Uhad because at the time I was 14 years old. But on the day of Khandaq (next battle), when I was 15, the Prophet allowed me to participate. Ayesha's participation in battles of Badr and Uhad clearly indicates that she was not 9 year old, but at least 15. Dr. Shanavas adds, "Women used to accompany men to the battlefield to help them, not to be a burden on them." Sura Qamar: Ayesha is reported to have said that she was a young girl (jariyah in Arabic) when sura Qamar was revealed. Sura Qamar was revealed eight years before Hijra, in 614 CE. If Ayesha started living with the Prophet at age 9 in 623 CE, she should have been a new born (sibyah in Arabic) when Sura Qamar was revealed, not a jariyah (a young girl). assumed to be somewhere between 6-13 year old. That would suggest Ayesha's age at the time of marriage to be 14-21 years. Guidance from Qur'an: There are no verses that spell out age of marriage in number 0f years, which is understandable because both boys and girls reach maturity at widely different ages. But Qur'an 4:5-6 talking about orphaned children who are now under the protection of guardian says "..... and maintain them out of it (the orphan's property), clothe them and give them good education. And test them until they reach the age of marriage. Then if you find in them maturity of intellect, make over them their property." Dr. Shanavas says: In the matter of children who lost a parent, a Muslim (guardian) is ordered to 1. feed them, 2. clothe them, 3.educate them, and 4. test them for maturity "until the age of marriage" before entrusting them with the management of finances. Here the Qur'anic verse demands meticulous proof of their intellectual and physical maturity by objective test results before the age of marriage in order to entrust their property to them, In the light of this verse no responsible Muslim would hand over financial management to a seven or nine year old girl. ...... hence she cannot be intellectually or physically fit for marriage. Finally, a woman (not her daddy or mommy) must be consulted and must agree in order to make the marriage valid. Dr. Shanavas says: By any stretch of the imagination, the permission given by an immature seven year old girl cannot be valid authorization for marriage.

@tunnelvision7906 5 ай бұрын

@@dvsevbve7198so it’s either they didn’t know her age? Or she didn’t know her age, I mean weren’t they’re Hadith of muhamed comming to look at ayesha playing with dolls tho?

@dvsevbve7198 4 ай бұрын

@tunnelvision7906 no, it's saying that the hadith means she may have misspoke and stated it strangely(ie saying she remembers 9 years of her life, not being 9, like how we only remember stuff and become conscious after like 5) or she made a mistake. This would admittedly be kind of shake, but it also provides evidence that her being 9 would mean either of two things. Either she was like some sort of super prodigy that was mature and capable for her age(for the standards of the time atleast), or she was older than 9 in order to fulfill the Islamic requirements, as it goes without saying that she had done so. In another study by Oxford University, they apparently tracked and dated when the hadith was altered by sunnis against shias to protect Aisha(R.A)'s name. The study concluded that her age at an absolute minimum would have been like 14 or something. It's like 300 pages on pdf and I can send you a link to a link for it. Anways, from what I have gathered, evidence points to her being 19 years old and the hadith being altered by the Sunni leadership. Even if it actually wasn't, it wouldn't matter as it would be fine anyways according Islam, which makes it fine, even at such a young age when you consider the requirements and the standards for such at the time, making it objectively a moral. Any qualm people would have by calling pedophila would be a non-issue with the Islamic prerequisites.

@tunnelvision7906 4 ай бұрын

@@dvsevbve7198 Narrated Aisha: “I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girlfriends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Messenger used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Hadith 151) Hadiths narrated by Aisha do heavily imply she was a child, I’m ngl

@An_ordinary_person62y53 6 ай бұрын

Refutation speedrun

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Speedrun 100% Any% completion

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia "And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous." (5:46) Each Book confirms what came before it, of course the Quran however does not confirm what comes before it, why? Because it contradicts it. So the only scapegoat for Muslims is to claim, that we have a false Torah and False injil, however even this is false "And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient." (5:47) This verse confirms the people of the Gospel HAD the gospel during the time of Muhammad. To sum it up, the two verses say, Jesus received a book with confirmed the Torah and the Christians had a gospel which was revealed by Allah, (even if it was a corrupted one it still was the gospel they had), However, the only written sources of the life of Jesus in the first century are the gospels found in the New Testament, so this "book" given to Jesus has no archeological or historical records. Furthermore the Quran confirms that the injil is the one the people of the Gospel (Christians) have. So you're forced to say we have the injil, which has no signs of doctrinal corruption, there are small scribal mistakes, but no corruption on major and basic teachings like ressurection, incarnation, and trinity. (sources. NT Wright, Martin Hengel, Richard Baukham, FF Bruce, Daniel B. Wallace, and Bruce M. Metzger) Furthermore to add more injury Surah As-Saff (61:13-14): "And [you will obtain] another [favor] that you love - victory from Allah and an imminent conquest; and give good tidings to the believers. O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah, as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, 'Who are my supporters for Allah?' The disciples said, 'We are supporters of Allah.' And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant." This confirms that the early followers of Jesus became dominant and became the mainstream form of Christianity, but what is the historical mainstream Christianity, oh that's right Jesus death and ressurection and divinity. Don't just take it from the first century sources in the Bible but, early church fathers:Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130-202 AD), Ignatius of Antioch (c. 35-108 AD), Justin Martyr (c. 100-165 AD), Origen of Alexandria (c. 185-253 AD), all affirming Christian doctrines such as Divinity of Christ and Trinity. If you're Quran is true, it simply refutes itself by contradicting history. In conclusion, the New Testament is the only Injil in the first century, it's the one referred to by Allah, and your argument of corruption has no historical or reliable evidence outside the Quran itself, lastly you take the words of a man whom lived hundreds years later to tell you about Jesus instead of relying on the eye-witnesses of the ressurection which also contradicts your Quran.

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@gigacat2536 2 ай бұрын

i love you bro keep this good work up

@markofabecic6824 6 ай бұрын

Cry all you want. He literally said everything right. Islam came 600 years after with false preachers

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Christianity came 2,000 years after Judaism? Bad argument Did u even watch the video? What do you disagree with specifically

@markofabecic6824 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia so? Even if it did, it's not relevant. Christian is someone who follows Jesus, not Judaism. And you're one claiming Jesus was muslim even though Islam came 600 years after him.

@theo.awadalla 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Lol your arguments are genuinely hilarious, thanks for the laugh. Anyway, the reason Judaism building into Christianity is radically different than Christianity building into Islam is because Judaism clearly prophecized their future. The central belief of Judaism is that they are Gods covenant people who will obeys God's laws untill someone called the Messiah would fulfill this covenant and replace it with an everlasting one (read the book of Ezekiel for this specifically) and this Messiah would fulfill all of the contingencies of the covenant (these were known as the Messainaic Prophecies). As Jesus lived it became known that Jesus fulfilled every single one of these prophecies and even gave us the new covenant the Jewish prophets spoke of. So then nearly all the Jews and and many gentiles from various regions began to believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and our Savior, God in the flesh. This connection is completely justified and it makes sense that Christianity came 2000 years after Judaism as it was simply based on when Jesus resurrection. Islam , specifically the prophet Muhammad isn't prophecized at all, (and don't give me any unlettered prophet BS from the Old testament because that was already debunked). And yet you expect us to believe that the Quran is also from God and that we should trust a the testimony of someone who lived 600 years after Christ rather than his eyewitnesses

@rasyian 6 ай бұрын

@@markofabecic6824 so your God is dead then

@markofabecic6824 6 ай бұрын

@@rasyian not dead but alive, read the Bible then talk about "my god"

@ufpride83 6 ай бұрын

I’m not Muslim but man was his video series some of the laziest videos against Islam I’ve ever seen. And the vast majority of the points he makes against Islam in these videos, you can make against Christianity as well.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea it’s some of the worst anti Islam arguments I’ve seen from a Christian - I don’t even think he’s opened a Quran and seriously read it before Some Christians are actually somewhat knowledgeable but Testify is not one of them

@ufpride83 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia a lot of his arguments were nothing more than just regurgitating narratives he either heard from his pastor, in online articles, and Christian apologist. But yeah, you can definitely tell he has little to no experience reading the Quran independently on his own and has had very few genuine interactions with a Muslim believer about Muslim beliefs

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaTestify buried your religion, mate. Just accept that.

@DaWoodenDoor 6 ай бұрын

@@baldwinthefourth4098 When? I thought the whole ass video was just "erm, but Islam is false because this and that and this dude said this so uhh Islam is false🤓☝️"

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

@@DaWoodenDoor No? He is giving you good reasons to doubt what Islam says. There are very, very good reasons to believe the crucifiction and resurrection of the Lord Jesus. There are no good reasons to believe the standard islamic narrative.

@thebatman2405 6 ай бұрын

*CHRISTIAN RESPONSE* 1st objection- According to Al Tabari( an companion of Muhammed) in his Tafir, Jesus asked all his disciples who would vollunteer to die in His place "Some of those who were present when Allah raised Jesus described the incident as follows: 'When Allah wanted to raise Jesus to heaven, he went to his companions, who were twelve disciples. He found them gathered together in a house, and his head was dripping with water. He said, 'Which one of you will have my likeness cast upon him and be killed in my place and be my companion in Paradise?' A man among them volunteered, and Allah cast the likeness of Jesus upon him, and he was taken and crucified.'" So the disciples according to Al Tabari, werent illuded into thinking Jesus was crucified. 2nd objection- If allah made some Jesus's diciple look like Jesus and dying in His place, then allah started Christianity! Also if allah deceived people into thinking Jesus was killed then what else did he deceive? 3rd objection- Testify gave proof that Jesus indeed prophesied His death in the video. Also in Surah Maryam 19:29-33 Jesus says " And peace is on me the day I was born and the day *I will die* and the day I am raised alive." So Jesus even without the Bible prophesies that He will die. Bro just like the other response I made, Im not here to humiliate u, Im here to transmite the gospel and lead u to the truth. We all deserve hell bc of our sins (Romans 3:23) so God became human in Jesus Christ( John 1:14; Philippians 2:5-10) living a perfect life( 1st Peter 2:22) and lived us so much to the point of dying the Death we deserve( Isaiah 53:5-6; Romans 5:8; 1st Peter 2:24), and raised on the 3rd day( 1st Corinthians 15:3-4) and now we can go to Heaven bc of what He did for us ( John 3:16) JESUS LOVES U MAN!!!❤️❤️✝️

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

1st objection - Tafsir are opinions and explanations that are not binding on our beliefs - only the Quran and Sunnah are binding 2nd objection - Allah did not make it so - it was made so by peoples own hands and choices 3rd objection you interpret this verse wrong and you don’t even believe in the bible so what’s the point in referencing it as a source to back up your belief

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

Well explained! May God bless you!

@Wahabist 6 ай бұрын

i think the only reason to enter christianity is "JESUS LOVES YOU"

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@Wahabistyes, we are so thankful about god’s mercy for us which we don’t deserve! How can you show love more than to take the sins and death with you though you didn’t sin like Jesus? Like a loving father who does everything to save his child even if it is wicked! Now let us look at Allah: Sahih Muslim 2662 c 'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said: Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because God created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins. Allah destines even innocent babies to send them to eternal torment in hellfire! What for? Only Satan himself can be so cruel. No mercy, no hope, no love… Allah

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

@@thebatman2405 "For you are not a God who is pleased with wickedness; with you, evil people are not welcome. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong" Psalms 5:4-5

@shadaankhan8033 20 күн бұрын

There are plenty of other 1st century pastors renowned ones, like Ignatious and others who didn’t believe him to be crucified

@UdinJibral 6 ай бұрын

The worst anti-islam argument is an argument that work against THEMSELVES like wth?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea lmao

@palind9884 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaisn’t your argument then basically my Quran is correct and your Bible is wrong tho? Sorry if I’m misinterpreting your argument but you view the entire situation through the lens of a Muslim even though the view isn’t very well supported by scholars

@palind9884 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia”But here’s where Farhan’s logic takes a nosedive. He actually agrees with my point, saying, “Yes, you are right. You literally refute yourself in this video.” He then goes on to claim that my question is a “non-question” because the Quran says it only appeared that Jesus was crucified. Talk about missing the forest for the trees! Farhan is doing exactly what he accuses me of: begging the question for the Quran. He simply assumes the Quran is correct and that everyone else must be wrong. As if some guy in a cave 700 years after Jesus has some kind of special historical insight over the eyewitnesses! But let’s not forget the earliest and most reliable sources we have: the four Gospels and Paul’s letters. These texts consistently affirm Jesus’ crucifixion. Mark 8:31-33 records Jesus predicting his own suffering, death, and resurrection. Paul, who wasn’t even a direct witness, repeatedly states that Jesus was crucified (1 Corinthians 15:3-4). And John, an eyewitness, describes Jesus entrusting his mother to John’s care during the crucifixion (John 19:26-27). Furthermore, the resounding chorus of voices from the early Church Fathers - Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement of Rome, and countless others - all echo the undeniable truth of Jesus’ crucifixion. The evidence is overwhelming, and those who deny it are simply burying their heads in the sand. Many of these guys were disciples of the apostles.” From his website

@rasyian 6 ай бұрын

@@palind9884 so your God change personality twice and one of them got killed by a bunch of people

@An_ordinary_person62y53 6 ай бұрын

Continue your amazing work❤

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother for your continued support! By the permission of Allah I will keep going

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Allah does not refer to the injil that’s available to people

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. The people of the gospel are judging with what? A made up book?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

No by what Allah judged - and they can know what Allah judged by using the Quran as the Furqan , the criterion to judge between them - just read the verses before and after and the commentaries as well

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia judge by what Allah has revealed therein, very plain and simple. I get you use the Quran as the final revelation, but the verse is clear the people of the Gospels still have some version of the Gospel.

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Furthermore, still doesn't address my other points. Surah As-Saff (61:13-14) or my original statement which proves the Christians at the time of Muhammad had some sort of injill, which still contained the words of "allah". Of course this corruption that we refer to is only hypothetical as no actual scholar believes the New Testament has undergone fundamental corruptions.

@nickeypickles1383 18 күн бұрын

you seem to have not watched the whole video

@Narrator_of_Tarikh07 6 ай бұрын

Brother, could you please deal with a channel called Nabi Asli ? He makes a lot of videos where he blantantly lies about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)...

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Ok JazakAllah Khair brother I will take a look Insha Allah

@Epic_General11 6 ай бұрын

> Be testify > Make an argument against Islam > Debunk it > but the bible was right so Islam is wrong

@Mr..P. 6 ай бұрын

Same argument from this guy, the Bible is wrong because my Quran is right

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Difference is - testify is just making things up that are wrong - I don’t make up things about Christianity that are wrong

@Bagonedle 6 ай бұрын

I'm a Christian, and I can't find a sufficient answer for my question. The Quran and Bible speak of two different Jesus, I'm sure we can agree on that. Since the Bible is eyewitness testimony of Christ, how is what the Quran claims about Jesus, which is a book centuries after the time of Jesus, more reliable than what the Bible claims? Not trying to start a fight, just seeing if you can give me a sufficient answer.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

You are viewing this from a Christian believer lens - There is unanimous agreement and consensus of Christian/Biblical scholars who are both Christian and non-Christian themselves that agree none of the gospel writers are eyewitnesses and never actually met Jesus If you want to reject the unanimous consensus that’s fair enough But then I could just ignore and view from a Muslim believer lens as well and say - mine is the word of God because Muhammad ﷺ is a prophet and prophets speak the truth and he saw Jesus عليه السلام in heaven as well But we shouldn’t go there because you will see how idiotic it is it just becomes a “no, I’m right because my book says so” argument. Reflect on your presupposition that the bible is eyewitness testimony as no scholar would take that claim seriously

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

Don’t let this guy fool you! You are right! The Bible authors were inspired by god and there are thousands of scriptures available. There are different translations and minor errors in my eyes but nothing affects the Christian doctrines. All bibles report the history of the Jews with god, Jesus birth, parables and teachings, his death, resurrection, the appearance of the Holy Ghost and prophecies. The muslim Isa has nothing to do with Jesus and Allah has nothing to do with god, who is Jesus father! The Muslims are deceived badly by a satan possessed false prophet unfortunately but Jews and Christian’s have the keys to realize false prophecy and this is the reason why Mohammed wasn’t accepted from the beginning on. So he applied force and attacked them… Old Testament: First syllogism If a person speaks in the names of false gods that person is a false prophet. (We know this from deuteronomy 18:20) Muhammad spoke in the name of false gods. (We know this from numerous Muslim sources) Therefore, Muhammad was a false prophet. Second syllogism If a person delivers a revelation that doesn’t come from God, that person is a false prophet. (We know this from Deuteronomy 18:20) Muhammad delivered a revelation that didn’t come from God. (We know this from numerous Muslim sources) Therefore Muhammad was a false prophet. New Testament: 1. John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son God bless you!

@Bagonedle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Okay, so how do Muslims know the Quran is the reliable revelation from God?

@99EKjohn 5 ай бұрын

@@Bagonedle They don't and can't. Their idea of Christianity comes from the Gnostic gospels, which didnt exist before 200 ad, and are the only pre chomo prophet claim for Jesus not dying. At least their thoughts were logically consistent though, they thought Jesus was purely a spiritual being and therefore could not die, unlike the chomo prophet who said Jesus was just a man. funny thing is there's more evidence of the historical Jesus than there is the historical chomo prophet.

@MostRightWingManInBritain 5 ай бұрын

1) The byzantines prophecy, which states that the byzantines who, at the time were on the brink of extinction, would return within 3 to 9 years To put it into perspective, one man bet 100 horses that the Byzantines would return and people took it, as the unanimous consensus was that they were going to fall this could be a coincidence, but what about the next few points? 2) In the Quran, the term “atom” is used frequently, Democritus theorized atoms before hundreds of years ago, but it wasn’t a popular theory, they believed that matter was continuous But we now know that isn’t the case 3) The supporting of the Big Bang: The Quran states that: the universe began in one small clump of matter, and that “we are constantly expanding it” The Big Bang states that matter previously was compacted in one point and that the universe is constantly expanding 4) in 2:23 Allah says in the Quran: “If you have doubts as to what has been revealed to our servant, then produce a verse like it” Why do people constantly avoid this challenge? If it was such a false challenge, then why doesn’t somebody make a book called “I produced a verse of the Quran” or “why the challenge is false” And more importantly, why does nobody talk about the aforementioned point regarding the challenge in 2:23 5) The Quran is preserved, we have Qurans which date to the first century Hijra and to the lifetime of the prophet (PBUH) there are no changes and hundreds of sahabians had memorized large portions of the Quran This is but a fraction of what there is in the Quran

@Sidhuhalalwala 6 ай бұрын

They cant even prove that Paul met jesus christ a.s. yet recognise paul as a prophet and take his word on christianity to do what Jesus christ wouldnt do himself and even object. Just shows how downtrodden chrisitianity is in its falsehood and paganism.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea lmmaooo

@avionyellow1712 6 ай бұрын

this video deserves twice as many views as the other one

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

@allenjaypaculba 6 ай бұрын

The thing is that the Muslim view of the crucifixion isn't supported by any historical evidences, if Allah really want all humans to be saved, why make something appear so if it's going to lead then astray, why can't he just make people not crucify Jesus. Or just don't let him die, without having people there thinking he actually died, which would then be a result of a religion called Christianity.

@erfankashefi7597 6 ай бұрын

.Number one. there is no archeological or even physical evidence that proves that jesus existed or that that person was crucified for that matter.Also youre saying that the muslim position isnt supported with any historical evidence which is wrong if you actually did any ressearch but better so if were actually gonna take histocal evidences there is none for the christian perspective. There is no definitive historical evidence you christians have for proving the crucifixion. Secondly your argument makes no sense.Your saying why Allah couldnt just make it so people wouldnt want to crucify jesus. THEY HAVE FREE WILL BUDDY! they do what they want and that is the right that Allah has them. Plus the crucifixion initself isnt something that would particulerly lead someone astray as that wouldnt really matter. If Jesus came and preached one God and the gospel and then "apparently died" it wouldnt make a difference now would it or would his possible death lead to people just worshipping him?. Thirdly it makes no sense how jesus death would lead in the creation of christianity as that could not be the case. It is not rationell to believe that jesus death would lead in a completly different theology being spread in comparison to what he spread.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Allah did not make it appear so - you just made that up

@allenjaypaculba 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia you said in your video that Allah made it appear so,

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@erfankashefi7597 “…•Number one. there is no archeological or even physical evidence that proves that jesus existed or that that person was crucified for that matter.” There were lots of eyewitnesses, Jewish and Roman sources reporting about Jesus crucifiction. Much more than you have to believe that the satan possessed Mohammed received “revelation” from a squeezing cave devil… “THEY HAVE FREE WILL BUDDY! they do what they want and that is the right that Allah has them.” Since when?? In Islam Allah decreed everything you will do before you are even born! The most unjust “god” who can exist!! “ Plus the crucifixion initself isnt something that would particulerly lead someone astray as that wouldnt really matter. If Jesus came and preached one God and the gospel and then "apparently died" it wouldnt make a difference now would it or would his possible death lead to people just worshipping him?.” You have no clue at all about Christianity! Without his death and resurrection, which he foretold, he would be a liar and not holy! Our whole belief is based on his death to take away our sins and his and our resurrection physically and spiritually!! “Thirdly it makes no sense how jesus death would lead in the creation of christianity as that could not be the case. It is not rationell to believe that jesus death would lead in a completly different theology being spread in comparison to what he spread.” The same as above!

@Contestant11 5 ай бұрын

A test of faith.

@kemasfarrelekadjati912 6 ай бұрын

Allahuma Barik. May Allah swt gives you jannatul firdaus for your work akhi.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair Akhi this is way too kind. Insha Allah I can keep refuting lies my brother

@الأطفالالفصولالاربعة 27 күн бұрын

why cant people just leave other people alone

@Mohamed_amin120 6 ай бұрын

His usage of wojaks man😂

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Lol

@U-A-FTAUTTPTAYFGAATZNTTPTUTTD 2 ай бұрын

He Is Ruining Wojaks.

@SurahXEditz Ай бұрын

Bro thinks anything is false just because hsi bible says so

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

Assalamu alaikum Farhan i have a question regarding his video.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Wa Alaikum Assalam Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakatuhu What’s the question (you can DM me on Twitter or discord as well if it’s easier or a conversation)

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia I can ask here So in original video he goes on to mention ibn Abbas' thoughts about how it was made to appear so, and in the story the companions of Isa (pbuh) knows that someone is taking his place. So my question is why don't we find other disciples saying what actually happened about his crucifixion (as far as I'm aware of)? Btw what's your discoard?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

It’s in the link in the description - if u join we can continue the conversation and answer there Insha Allah

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia ok

@OMappingneditz1 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaOk I joined

@kaeori 3 ай бұрын

Masha'Allah brother, his ignorance genuinely made me feel so sad about all the misinformation, and most of the muslims and non-muslims in the comments believing in it too!! May Allah guide them, and may He reward you for refuting this ignorance :D

@FarhanAhmedZia 3 ай бұрын

Ameen

@La_Fata_Ila_Ali 6 ай бұрын

Salam brother, I love the content you make, and inshallah you will be rewarded for it, but I wouldn’t recommend wasting your breath on these preachers that spew the same refuted arguments over and over again. It’s best to find some true arguments and refute those.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother - I agree that’s why it’s my last video on the topic - the previous one I think he actually had points that ignorant Muslims may have had doubts on so I refuted it and this one I only wanted to make because it went viral and got 300k views - but I’m done refuting this jahil and will find better videos to make

@La_Fata_Ila_Ali 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Alhamdulilah, im looking forward to seeing you refute the munafiqeen David Wood and Sam Shamoun one day I think we all want to see their hour long videos crumble to your sub 10 minute vids

@venommaster534 6 ай бұрын

Classic Christian circular reasoning, "Jesus was crucified because the Bible says so!"

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea he just waffled the same thing for 5 minutes straight and thought he did something 😭

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

Classic Muslim circular reasoning, “ Jesus was not crucified because the Quran says so!” 😂

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Why should I believe in the bible 😭😭

@JirenThegreylien 6 ай бұрын

@@peaceforhumanity1886if you want to see reasons why the Quran is true, there are plenty of videos out there. Right now, this is just debunking circular logic

@shirosatsuma4946 6 ай бұрын

Well the Bible isn't a reliable source, the Quran is

@YouTubeRoamer 6 ай бұрын

Though i am younger snd not super understanding of all of this? I still take my chances with Jesus, Because he says hes the truth, and loves us, ifso, why would Jesus say that, then Fake the suffering for someone else, if he loves me! Dose that mean gods love isn't legitimate? If he could just took on the worlds price but not actually hmhm?👍, but this is knowledgeable 👍👍 its the Love mann, thats what got me towards God as a whole in general!!!

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

What 💀

@YouTubeRoamer 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia God says the wages of sin is death, and he also says he gave his only son for the Love of the world hmhm, so dose he not love me if he didn't actually take on death , was he wasn't telling the truth!!!?? I am new to this whole thing but until I know more? My faith is in Jesus!! because He said blessed are those who haven't seen me and believe! Im learning more about Jesus and I heard Muslim know him to. So I'm just learning more rn

@BigFazzy69420 4 ай бұрын

@@KZbinRoamer ezekial 18 21 says otherwise

@lifetree8340 Ай бұрын

Why didnt allah tell disciples that jesus wasnt crucified and that was decoy?

@FarhanAhmedZia Ай бұрын

How does that change Tawhid

@lifetree8340 Ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia 🙂

@KRA88512 6 ай бұрын

Salam alekom brother Can u use also shia rafidi tafsirs like tafsir al qummi or Tabatabai r.a for any shubuha❤

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Brother I’m not rafidi 💀

@KRA88512 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia pls use for shia and sunni tafsirs

@mister-Aleppo Ай бұрын

and again..he tries to debunk islam by using the bible. "islam is false cus my bible says so, muslims"

@Rashid-hx7gy 6 ай бұрын

assalamualikum brother farhan please make a video on the adventures of sheikh itoff

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Wa Alaikum Assalam Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakatuhu - ok I will have a look Insha Allah

@TotallyAnNPC1 6 ай бұрын

Here's another thing. Why were the disciples deceived? Or as Farhan said "to appear so"? Why would Allah make one of the disciples look like Jesus when the prophet could've easily ascended without having one of his disciples die? Plus, why then did the disciples make the New Testament? Yet again, always need to know more about religion.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Allah didn’t make the disciple look like Jesus Nowhere does it say “Allah made it so” you are just making things up

@tymon1928 6 ай бұрын

@FarhanAhmedZia you didn't answer the question tho

@LitoLochoss 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaThat called deciving

@Superman-fl5sz 5 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiawhat??

@anonamemous6865 5 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Bruh you are a liar😂 Stop it bro it's so obvious😂🤣

@westt8922 6 ай бұрын

Allahumma baarik for the refutation content your making, i noticed how your voice sounds alot like this 1 trolling gamer youtuber called Bub Games, its not that relevant or anything but just thought it was pretty funny😁 Anyway keep up the great work akhi

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Haha ok JazakAllah Khair brother I will check this gamer out - thank you for your support 🤩

@westt8922 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Ahaha great and Allahumma Ameen wa iyyak akhi its my pleasure 😄

@avivastudios2311 16 күн бұрын

Most historians agree that a man called Jesus was crucified and your only recourse is to say that you don't believe the Bible. This was a pretty weak video.

@FarhanAhmedZia 16 күн бұрын

This video is not historical proof nor is it trying to prove Jesus didn’t die via crucifixion historically His arguments were an internal critique of the Islamic paradigm that I was refuting but it seems you lack comprehension skills

@bilalsha1374 6 ай бұрын

Some of things i hate about Testify is him trying to use the Bible to disprove the Quran and when hes disproved he falls back on those who jsut blindly follow him and start to insult the people who disproved his point

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea definitely

@echoes5476 6 ай бұрын

Still, your only source to point a falsehood in the crucifixion is "it appeared to be so" , giving no other other explanation who or what made that illusion or why. That vs all the evidence for the crucifixion and the resurrection.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

The response video I made is not centred on “how it appeared so” In his video Testify lacks comprehension and thinks there is a contradiction in historical accounts and the Quran The videos sole purpose was to refute that claim

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

As a Christians: A Question if Jesus was appear to them why the disciples died for Jesus, in the history the Romans always presicute Christians for spreading the Gospel but they die for Jesus in the Epoch of the Romans Empire, because when Jesus already resurrected and Jesus tell his disciples in Matthew 28:19 Jesus said" go make all Nations to be my disciples and Baptize them

@myinstgiscarbenuim1693 6 ай бұрын

The stories about the companions of Jesus dying are very weak historically

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Why would I believe what’s written in the bible to be the truth?

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia The common belief today is that has been a hindrance to progress and Provents us to becoming a more educated and enlighten society, this is how Christians are betrayed in the media and films, but reality very little the reason the world is more educated, healthy and prosperous has a lot to do with Christianity in spacificaly Christian missionary who have been crucial for building a better world by God Grace, Christianity through mission and charity work has made the world a much better place scientifics can research can verify this And the missionary Wanted everyone read the Bible to made a better place and multiple ways because Missonary wanted everyone to read the Bible they realized they need to educate people so they ended to building a massive number of schools around the world which sent Global literacy rates skyrocketed research has revealed that Christianity has led to increase literacy rates in Europe and then missionnery exported this mentality to Asia, Africa and Americas missionaries build schools resulting in Mass Boy and Girl education, they build Hospitals and inproved the quality of health care and hygiene habits for people all over the world they also foster the growth of democraty value and Colonial that we discovered the continent of America that he sent the first object in space and find a lot of culturel, reform which created massive economic development in many regions outside in Europe today's It's thanks to Jesus Christ that Christianity help back human in a century in the opposite is true Matthew 28:[18] And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [20] and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - COLOSSIANS 1:18 AND HE IS THE HEAD OF THE BODY, THE CHURCH; HE IS THE BEGINNING AND FIRSTBORN FROM AMONG THE DEAD, SO THAT IN ALL THINGS HE MAY HAVE PREEMINENCE.

@JirenThegreylien 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiatrust me bro

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia The common belief today is that has been a hindrance to progress and Provents us to becoming a more educated and enlighten society, this is how Christians are betrayed in the media and films, but reality very little the reason the world is more educated, healthy and prosperous has a lot to do with Christianity in spacificaly Christian missionary who have been crucial for building a better world, Christianity through mission and charity work has made the world a much better place scientifics can research can verify this And the missionary Wanted everyone read the Bible to made a better place and multiple ways because Missonary wanted everyone to read the Bible they realized they need to educate people so they ended to building a massive number of schools around the world which sent Global literacy rates skyrocketed research has revealed that Christianity has led to increase literacy rates in Europe and then missionnery exported this mentality to Asia, Africa and Americas missionaries build schools resulting in Mass Boy and Girl education, they build Hospitals and inproved the quality of health care and hygiene habits for people all over the world they also foster the growth of democraty value and Colonial that we discovered the continent of America that he sent the first object in space and find a lot of culturel, reform which created massive economic development in many regions outside in Europe today's It's thanks to Jesus Christ that Christianity help back human in a century in the opposite is true Matthew 28:[18] And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [20] and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - COLOSSIANS 1:18 AND HE IS THE HEAD OF THE BODY, THE CHURCH; HE IS THE BEGINNING AND FIRSTBORN FROM AMONG THE DEAD, SO THAT IN ALL THINGS HE MAY HAVE PREEMINENCE

@GodIsIndeedgreat 6 ай бұрын

the christians always act like the bible is one hundred percent true like they have the names of the authors the chain of narration going back to the authors

@GodIsIndeedgreat 6 ай бұрын

it has multiple contradictions

@GodIsIndeedgreat 6 ай бұрын

some translations have verses which are not found in other translations

@GodIsIndeedgreat 6 ай бұрын

how can they trust this book lol?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Exactly lmaooo

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

The authors were inspired by god! Though there are those different translations etc. every Bible teaches us about the history of the Jews with god, Jesus life, death, resurrection, teachings, the apostles and prophecies. I don’t know verses which affects our doctrines. Written books can be changed of course and it is the same with Quran if you read the different translations too. The difference is that the Bible allows this but Quran doesn’t allow this as it has to be perfect as supposedly god’s word! And here we can disprove Quran and Islam to be all a lie!! A gem for you: The narrative has holes… kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3vMpmSJnrSUj5Ysi=ApGcDtDkgVAul7jX Your sheik Yasir Qadhi

@YappingLegend 6 ай бұрын

Jesus rose up from the dead according to the christians after he was crucified. 3 Dyas after and his tomb was empty. According to Christian tradition all the disciples and a lot of people (women) testified that Jesus rose from the dead. Islam can say that this was a decoy Jesus who was crucified but it doesn't solve the problem that Jesus arose from the dead or you could just say that's false.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

I would just say prove he rose from the dead The only person that said that is Paul and he never met Jesus

@shirosatsuma4946 6 ай бұрын

Who told you he rose from the dead?

@YappingLegend 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Paul wasn't the only person who said Jesus rose from the dead. All the apostles were witness to it. In the oldest part of the Bible, First Thessalians, which was written around 48 AD. It mentions Jesus ressurection which shows us that Jesus resurrection had already taken place in Christians at that time. I personally don't believe int he resurrection but here's the counter argument,

@eggbrainss 6 ай бұрын

This is what using the “izlamic dilemma” does to a person😭😭

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

I didn’t understand anything you said 💀

@eggbrainss 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia I’m talking abt how people claim the Qur’an affirms the Bible (one of those people being testify) even when it’s been debunked a trillion times over, srry for confusion lol

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah that’s the dumbest argument in the world

@Simsimousse 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia I think the "You're limiting God by saying he cannot limit himself" is a more dumber argument, bro.

@KallMeMoh 6 ай бұрын

@@Simsimousse it's not a problem of capability bruh 😂 it's a problem with definition for a "God" to be limited, by definition, it can no longer be a god. 🤡

@specialpostatoesAltAccount 6 ай бұрын

I love u man I wish u were more popular

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother Insha Allah I spread my refutations of these Jahil far and wide

@garpuffyfish 6 ай бұрын

previously in the video he established that the Quran said that the bible is true. Conveniently you left that part out

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

The Quran does not say the bible is true 💀

@karimmezghiche9921 6 ай бұрын

Nowhere does the Qur'an mention the Bible at all. Show me a single verse that contains the word "Bible"

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia 5:48 We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences. But even if we accept this argument and deny Allahs word here we get another problem. As Quran came with Muhammad 600 years after Jesus and the Bible existed for 200 years already. It CONFIRMS the previous scriptures. Who in the world sends a new message to correct distorted books and confirms the distorted books? This is stupid, sorry.

@garpuffyfish 6 ай бұрын

@@karimmezghiche9921 I don't know the Quran very well but this guy who commented on testifies video makes a fair point "What's funny is that Ibn Ishaq who wrote the oldest biography of Muhammed uses this verse to claim it's Muhammed. Which then would actually prove they referenced the Gospel of John as the Injil. So why appeal to the gospel if it isn't the Injil and the gospel was corrupted? When did the Gospel get corrupted then? They were using this verse to link it to Muhammed after his death? So, whether the Gospels were corrupted before his life, during or after, it still proves that Allah confirmed a corrupted book in the Quran and Muhammed and scholars referenced and appealed to corrupted Gospels. It's clear that this notion that the TEXT was corrupted wasn't a belief back then. It's a newer conspiracy theory out of desperation. Christians are the people of the book. We have to abide by our book. The Quran even says so. So...Allah basically created Christianity for us and let his words be corrupted and helped create the largest religion in the world instead of Islam during that time? These people have nothing left to stand on" ThePrimusCrusader

@tengkusaidmohdkhairullah2015 5 ай бұрын

Good video brother simple and easy to understand

@FarhanAhmedZia 5 ай бұрын

Thanks brother

@dersty007 6 ай бұрын

Doing Great Brother!!! Keep it up, ive been refuting some arguments he made in his videos for a while now, you're doing Gods work here

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother thank you

@OnCoated 6 ай бұрын

Why do you believe the Bible is corrupted? Its an honest question

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

You can read Bruce Metzgers work

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiafrom Wikipedia Bruce Metzger: …] He concludes that, “In the most basic sense neither individuals nor councils created the canon; instead they came to recognize and acknowledge the self-authenticating quality of these writings, which imposed themselves as canonical upon the church.”[19] Show us what he said to back up your claims!

@Mr..P. 6 ай бұрын

Bruce Metzger actually says that the Gospels have been accurately preserved and most mistakes are scribal errors but actual doctrines and teachings found in the New Testament have been untouched and uncorrupted.

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia In “The Bible in Translation: Ancient and English Versions,” Metzger expresses confidence in the essential preservation of the biblical text: “Though the form of the text varies in many instances, it is clear that the substance of the message has been transmitted with remarkable fidelity” (p. 53).

@BuffAle 6 ай бұрын

@@OnCoated In “The Bible in Translation: Ancient and English Versions,” Metzger expresses confidence in the essential preservation of the biblical text: “Though the form of the text varies in many instances, it is clear that the substance of the message has been transmitted with remarkable fidelity” (p. 53). This shows the textual variants of scribal errors like different wording or spelling mistakes, but the actual message is accurately preserved

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

2:48 Revelations 1:[18] Jesus said "i am the Living One. I was dead, and see, I am alive forever and ever, and I have the keys of Death and of Hades".

@myinstgiscarbenuim1693 6 ай бұрын

Jesus didn't say this, this is what the writer of revelation dreamt Jesus said

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

@@myinstgiscarbenuim1693 umm John the author of the book of Revelation didn't sleep and dream about Jesus, he was still awake with Romans soldiers in the island of Patmos, he was in prison by the Romans soldiers John saw visions.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Do you believe John met Jesus?

@joshuasoogrim8454 6 ай бұрын

I believe that John would have no reason to lie about it

@RobertsonGerson 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaI will show you why Paul, James and John are true Apostle Deuteronomy 19:[15] “A single witness shall not suffice to convict a person of any crime or wrongdoing in connection with any offense that may be committed. Only on the evidence of two or three witnesses shall a charge be sustained. Matthew 18:[16] But if you are not listened to, take one or two others along with you, so that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. So Jesus saying that Peter is a true Apostle, now we're being told much more about in this verse but this is the main points Peter is the truth Apostle and Peter can be trusted Christ himself is making a very clair here so if Peter can be trusted that means that we can take his work as true and even we already told in 2 Timothy 3:[16] All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,. So if somebody rejects the scripture they're are rejecting the inspection of God, to their scripture John 8:[17] In your law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is valid. [18] I testify on my own behalf, and the Father who sent me testifies on my behalf.” 2 Peter 3:15-16‬ [15] and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, [16] speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, scriptures. They do also a the other scripture unto their own destruction, not only the Holy spirit give Peter the wisdom and inspired to write his letter which was relevant at the time but it is relevant to us today there are still unlearned and unstable to people who accusing Paul and what they actually doing well they doing it unto their own destruction they also being told that they do it other scripture, so be aware family there are many wolves who want to twist their own scripture to their own, so this is a nightmare for the false teachers who speak against Paul, so Muslims, Atheist, LGBTQ, false Christian will know their own nightmares, if you reject Paul which means you reject Peter and you diny Jesus Acts 21:17-20‬ [17] When we arrived in Jerusalem, the brothers welcomed us warmly. [18] The next day Paul went with us to visit James, and all the elders were present. [19] After greeting them, he related one by one the things that God had done among the gentiles through his ministry. [20] When they heard it, they praised God. Then they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands of believers there are among the Jews, and they are all zealous for the law. Luke who met Jesus wrote the book of Acts If you say Paul and John are false Prophets that means the Christians change the world into peace for nothing and they rescue their life to build their new home but according to your beliefs they fail and black slavery that they follow Jesus and soldiers allies that they defeat the Nazis by Jesus grace are burning in hell fire to not believing Allah? If it's true that's Allah responsible

@user-dc5mv2ic1h Ай бұрын

So Allah made it appear Jesus was crucified and then didn’t tell ANYONE until Muhammed, makes sense

@charliebryant1216 6 ай бұрын

The Quran literally predicates its validity off its consistency with prior acts of revelation, hence why your prophet confirmed the bible and Torah when presented to him . Muslims don’t even understand their own religion “We revealed the Torah in which there is guidance and light; and prophets who submitted to gods will have judged the Jews by the standards thereof” - 5:44

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Bruh the Quran did not confirm the bible 💀

@charliebryant1216 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiait literally does you mouthbreather 😂, being disingenuous isn’t going to save you lmao. Here’s quotes from the Quran directly citing the bible as a source of truth: “And in their [their prophets] footsteps we sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Torah that had come before him: we sent him the gospel, there in was guidance and light. And confirmation of the Torah before him, a guidance and admonition to those who fear allah” - Sura 5:46 “Those who deny allah and his messengers, and wish to separate between allah and his messengers, saying “we believe in some but reject others”: and wish to take a course midway (151) they are in truth unbelievers……”-sura 4:150-151 “Those who follow the messenger, the prophet who can neither read or write, whom they find written in the Torah and Gospel” -7:157 Trying to hide behind semantic obfuscation about what the injeel represents is embarassing and evidence of your flimsy faith 😂

@dirty2287 6 ай бұрын

I am a Christian and I have two doubts about Islam since I do not know a lot about that religion. Does Islam not believe in crucifixion? Does Islam think that the first Christians were Muslims?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Islam says people witnessed and it was recorded in history Jesus was crucified - but it wasn’t actually Jesus who was crucified it only appeared like that Also says Muslim is anyone who submits their will to God (the true God) and God alone So according to Islam, the followers of Moses were Muslim, the followers of Jesus were Muslim, and so on and so forth with every prophet God sent for every nation in every time and place and the message has always been the same - To worship God alone without partners, but people have always corrupted the message and gone astray

@dirty2287 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Thanks for the response, I always appreciate having knowledge

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@dirty2287my recommendation: Stay away from Islam as far as you can! In the Bible satan deceives. In Quran Allah deceives. In the Bible we believe in god and his holy son Jesus. In Quran it is the biggest sin to believe in Jesus as god’s holy son. 1. John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

@fuzzbug6757 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaso if the followers of Jesus were Muslim than they’re followers were Muslim and so on and so on. So Christians are the true Muslims following the true God.

@rasyian 6 ай бұрын

@@fuzzbug6757 nope you are twisted version

@thisguythismoment 6 ай бұрын

Selamu aleykum wa rrahmetullahi wa barakatuh, brother Farhan this issue of the crucifixion and "christianity v. Islam" isn't an issue of logic to the mass aaudience, it's an issue of who has more people that listen to one side and just accept it. Meanwhile the ones who see the evidence and question it are lead to other perspectives and more evidence which then forwards them to islam, indeed allah guides who he wills.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Yea for sure They don’t even care about evidences, may Allah guide the sincere people to the truth

@99EKjohn 5 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia You have no evidence raggy. You dont even understand basic textual criticism.

@Rogue_51 16 күн бұрын

@@99EKjohnisn’t how you also does the same thing?

@99EKjohn 16 күн бұрын

@Rogue_51 rephrase that into proper English please, I don't know what you are asking. If you are asking if Christians, which I am not one, do the same thing, that is a resounding no. Islam has no equivalent to textual criticism. Christian theologians don't claim the Bible is God's word, they don't claim it's Devine itself. They claim it was inspired by god, and they have archeological and textual evidence for when every book was written. Islam has none of those, the modern Koran dates to the early 1900s, there are hundreds of textual variants which don't agree with the modern Koran. The youngest new testament book, most likely revelations, is dated to the late 100s early 200s ad, by secular historians. Islam doesn't even come close to having the written record that Christianity has. That's not surprising if you know anything about the two religions. Islam calls for the destruction of all non Islamic work, Christianity doesn't and the Christian church is why most of the Roman and Greek writing we have survived.

@Rogue_51 16 күн бұрын

@@99EKjohn you know how to speak English, so did I said another language?

@IHATEMOCHA 4 ай бұрын

1:10 thank you for confirming for us that noone should trust allah, since allah trolled everyone by making them to believe that Jesus got crucified when he did not👏👏👏 I saw yestrday a pigeon on my balcony, i dont know whether that was true or it just made to appear to me)))))

@fare1181 4 ай бұрын

The Quran doesnt say that Allah made it to appear so.

@Ahmedadvemtures125 6 ай бұрын

Crucifixion? I don't think so Jesus's crucifixion is one of the most historically accurate beliefs That's what the Christians say , but is that even true from biblical perspective? But how We and the Christians testify upon the righteousness of Jesus and guess what what does that OT says about righteous people The LORD is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the righteous. Proverbs ch 15 verse 10 Enough OT let's go to NT And what does it says about Jesus's prayers In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence." "To save him from death" Christians might argue "Oh the greek word is ek which means out of suggesting he was afraid out of death and him being promised ressurection " Also during his "supposed" crucifixion he feels as if he is forsaken by God Eloi Eloi lama sabachtani! My my God why have you forsaken me Psalms chn37 verse 28 says English Standard Version For the LORD loves justice; he will not forsake his saints. They are preserved forever, but the children of the wicked shall be cut off. But what about psalms 22 It's David speaking!!! Has God forsaken him Noo It's Esther -Jewish interpretation Rashi Ibn Ezra Etc Now 90 percent of ground has fallen Now my favorite in psalms 91 It's God direct promise to those who have trusted in him and Jesus being one of those For solidification Satan tries to tempt Jesus by qouting Verses from 12 till 13 To which our beloved replies Don't test the Lord your God! Now from the every same chapter of psalms 91 God's to deliver and rescue him and with Long life satisfy him ( 2k yrs is a very long life tbh ) And the islamic narrative fits perfectly May Allah guide those who claim to love yet despise upon the trachings of our beloved ameen

@tav2205 6 ай бұрын

simple answer to this is God limited Himself to human form in Jesus as stated in John 1:1-3 and John 1:14 thus it’d make sense if, as a human, He felt emotions.

@Ahmedadvemtures125 6 ай бұрын

@@tav2205 Nuh uh

@benardismaili5269 6 ай бұрын

@tav2205 that would go against God's nature This is exactly like saying God can make a rock that he can't lift If God is the all knowing all powerful it would go against his nature to limit himself if you believe jesus humbled himself or limited himself to be a human then you are going against God's nature It would be more rational to believe that jesus peace be upon him was a prophet

@peaceforhumanity1886 6 ай бұрын

@@benardismaili5269I don’t understand why people try to apply human logic to a deity beyond time and space…

@tav2205 6 ай бұрын

@@benardismaili5269 not necessarily if God is capable of doing anything i’m sure He’d ought to be able to limit His powers. and also understanding why He would do so is important. then you understand He stayed within His loving character

@Kneecaptain 3 ай бұрын

i respect you both for your faith.

@TronicManiaEnteracts 6 ай бұрын

Please answer the questions. Where in the Quran does it say the purpose of Jesus Christ's death to appear as it did? You said in the video that the verse answered the question, when it merely restated it. Why did Allah send a decoy to fill Jesus Christ's place to make it appear to disciples? Why didn't just Allah prevent the Romans from arresting Him, prevent Judas Iscariot from sending him to authorities, why did Allah carry on the execution? Since Muslims claim that the Disciples of Jesus Christ were also Muslim, that must mean Judas Iscariot was fake within his faith to betray a prophet. Was this all to punish Judas? What about Peter, did he deny knowing Jesus Christ and get sent to Jahenna regardless because he committed an unforgivable sin, or did he repent, and was forgiven, like in the Bible? I trust the Bible because it aligns with History, and everyone trusts History, right? So please explain to me how a book six centuries after Christ's crucifixion know so much?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Allah didn’t “send a decoy” where does it say that in the Quran 💀

@Error-gr8jm 6 ай бұрын

Still hasn't answered the question what is the point of the appearance of Jesus death in the quran

@TronicManiaEnteracts 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Decoy- one that aligns in physical attributes to appear as something, when in reality, was of false thought. That clearly fits the description of these verses. I'm using a more interpretive thinking and you're using more literal, which is why I'm having trouble while you're not. Also, why haven't you answered any of my questions?

@TronicManiaEnteracts 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Sir, you have been radio silent for 30 minutes, even though you were quick to make your last reply. You call out us Christians for being so closed-minded about Islam, the second you see an interested Christian, me, you hide away. That's what we call hypocrisy.

@karimmezghiche9921 6 ай бұрын

"where in the Quran does it say that the purpose of Jesus Christ's death to appear as it did?" I'm not sure I understand this question, can you clarify exactly what you mean?

@keeperkeeper1510 6 ай бұрын

Do they even have evidence of jesus his crucifixion because wasn't it a man from Cyrene?

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

The evidence they have is based on assumptions - they have no chains of narrations There historical evidence does say many of them saw him crucified but there are conflicting evidences as many say he wasn’t crucified

@keeperkeeper1510 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiaThat's the problem

@tunnelvision7906 5 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZiamuhamed knew Jesus was crucified orally by other Christian’s in his lifetime, people in the 7th century in general knew that beacuse of people in their lifetime, how is it fair to say Christian’s need a chain of narration when the way muhamed got this information is by receiving this information by other Christian’s, it litterally isn’t as if he just knew Jesus without ever hearing about him, or the Torah or the bible. Him just making assertions is very disingenous beacuse it has no ground to stand on

@Rogue_51 16 күн бұрын

@@tunnelvision7906how did Muhammad know huh?

@CodecYT-w4n 6 ай бұрын

Thank you brother

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Anytime brother

@MuhammadAhmad-mf7rd 6 ай бұрын

Mashallah brother nice video

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

JazakAllah Khair brother - any feedback on how I could improve my videos for future?

@MuhammadAhmad-mf7rd 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia Maybe brother try to slow down. Like you speed up the videos and the talking is fast. It’s difficult to hear what you are saying.

@darkmatteranimatoin1797 6 ай бұрын

wow you are underrated

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

LETSGOOO got the approval from darkmatteranimatoin1797 🤩🤩🤩

@theonik6082 2 ай бұрын

Would it be a problem if the disciples believed that Jesus resurrected?

@FarhanAhmedZia 2 ай бұрын

@skibidibap4411 6 ай бұрын

Good video

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

Thank you brother - any feedback? Not sure if u noticed but I’ve tried to up the quality heaps since the last few videos Audio sped up in his vid but pitch stays the same Recording frame showing Animations throughout High quality images Text throughout Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to improve

@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful 6 ай бұрын

Can you believe he has the nerve to say that these videos are supposed to lead us to watch his Christian apologetic works :/ W video though brother❤

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

WWWWWW JazakAllah Khair brother for supporting me ❤️

@MichaelCastillo9682 6 ай бұрын

As a Christian, I do not support the idea of the three Abrahamic religions attacking one another. We Christians, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same one base God. At least we can say that we all stand united against the true evils of this world.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

I agree I’m not attacking one another but you cannot blatantly lie about the other persons religion. I do my best to understand Christianity from the Christian view as best I can The brother shouldn’t talk about Islam if he just makes things up and lies

@shirosatsuma4946 6 ай бұрын

Yes you Christians believe in God, but associate partners with him

@Ondonol_ 6 ай бұрын

Yeah i agre i think we religius peaple in general should start focusing on debunking atheists i'm sure ewry sane christian in the world would agre that hawing let's say 90 present of modern day christians convert to Islam or Judaism rather then become atheists the same goes for as muslims at least christians and Jews belive in manny of the prophets that we belive you do belive in them difrently but you stil tehnecly belive in them.Atheists on the other hand on top of not beliving in a God they allso do not belive that Prophets such as Adam, Abraham,Noah,David,Ishmael peace be upon them all didn't eveen exist that is why we should foucus more on debunking atheists and why i would like to se Brother Farhan after refuting all these Christian apologist's to start refuting atheists such as rationality rules,Secular Teejay and espechely TMM.

@niccolopaganini1782 6 ай бұрын

@@shirosatsuma4946 no we dont, you dont understand what we believe.

@niccolopaganini1782 6 ай бұрын

Im against hatred but telling the truth or voicing what you think is not wrong, and no we three dont believe in the same God, atleast the Rabbinical Jews of nowadays and Islam. You must not be knwing much.

@LindiRio-yy3qh 20 күн бұрын

but want to know in what way did it apear that jesus was crusified

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

Another thing: You don't take the Bible as a source? Then you are disobeying your god. Allah orders the Christians to judge by the Gospel and it doesn't say that the Gospel was ever corrupted. So you disobey Allah. Good job.

@YeehawMister 6 ай бұрын

وَلۡیَحۡكُمۡ أَهۡلُ ٱلۡإِنجِیلِ بِمَاۤ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ فِیهِۚ وَمَن لَّمۡ یَحۡكُم بِمَاۤ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ فَأُو۟لَـٰۤىِٕكَ هُمُ ٱلۡفَـٰسِقُونَ﴿ ٤٧ ﴾ • Abdul Haleem: So let the followers of the Gospel judge according to what God has sent down in it. Those who do not judge according to what God has revealed are lawbreakers. • Fadel Soliman: So let[[Qira’at: Hamza read it as: “And so that the people of the Gospel may judge according . . .”]] the people of the Gospel judgeaccording to what Allah has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge according to what Allah has sent down, then those[[A grammatical shift from singular to plural.]]are the defiantly disobedient. • Sahih International: And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allāh has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allāh has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient. Al-Māʾidah, Ayah 47 As you can see the verse answers your question. Whoever does not judge by what allah has revealed then it is them who are disobedient.

@FarhanAhmedZia 6 ай бұрын

What do you think “the gospel” is? 💀

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

@@FarhanAhmedZia The book that, according to your Quran was given to Isa, and according to the same Quran, is still in the possession of Christians.

@th.5a643 6 ай бұрын

@@baldwinthefourth4098no Christian claims the Bible was written at the time of Jesus so that couldn’t be the gospel that Jesus believed

@baldwinthefourth4098 6 ай бұрын

@@th.5a643 Why not? The Quran was written down as a book from oral transmission after the time of Muhammad and yet you believe it's the one Muhammad believed in. Give me one good reason why this couldn't also be the case for the Gospel and Isa.